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new developments from ukrainian enterprises are being added, so for this we can unequivocally state that currently no other army in europe has the experience of combining such a colorful potential. and ukraine has become the first field battles where western weapons and ukrainian skill are opposed to new russian models and soviet stock , what conclusions can be drawn from this confrontation of arsenals, considering specific examples of combat clashes, what strengths are demonstrated by western and our weapons on the battlefield and how does the enemy react to this, we and we will talk with professional guests in our program , my name is serhiy zhorits, i am the director of the information consulting company defense express, which, together with the espresso channel, strives

to cover the most relevant events in tsar's security and now it turns out for us mykola salamakha, retired lieutenant colonel, an expert in armored armored vehicles and a project manager at the defense industry company energy 2000, mr. mykola. i welcome you to the espresso channel. various samples of western armored vehicles. there we saw leopards, we saw bradley infantry fighting vehicles, finnish armored personnel carriers and french m-m wheeled tanks, mine clearance engineering systems , and er, we saw the first examples of their use, and so i would like you to first give your own general assessments and preliminary conclusions from those examples of tactical combat and whether it can be claimed that western equipment in particular is more reliable, gives more

opportunities to protect the crew and the landing party, that is, that you could summarize such preliminary conclusions from those first hostilities in view of the situation that is now being illuminated in the information space. we are overcoming the enemy's battle line and reaching in some areas the first line of the enemy's defense and many military units that received western weapons, those western weapons began to be used precisely in the course of such moves in some places, this is the conduct of reconnaissance in some places - this is an assault on individual strong points of the enemy , the implementation of a maneuver and we faced the fact that uh, we began to gain experience in the exploitation

of what we still have there was no western equipment, but they did not see that the same 47th brigade, while trying to carry out reconnaissance in combat , lost several bradley infantry fighting vehicles and even leopard-2a-6 tanks, but here for one of the tasks that it should perform western equipment is the preservation of the lives of crew members and landing forces. this western equipment has fulfilled and even we saw interviews of soldiers who took part in these hostilities , who remained alive and unharmed

. i'll take a little break, now we'll ask our directors to find this video, where exactly this is the battle of the 47th magura brigade , where bradley is and where are the leopards, and where exactly when this first video appeared, there were comments that this is unsuccessful attack example of the ukrainian unit, and then there were various and other assessments, american experts began to analyze there, they say that in fact, in those conditions, the ukrainian soldiers made the most of the opportunities of the equipment in those tactical conditions that were difficult on the battlefield , and then a fighter of this czech brigade told about what in fact our bmp first ran into mines. then there was shelling in rounds, then by helicopters, and in these conditions , they fulfilled their combat mission, but now this video, i would like you

to comment in more detail on the tactical actions and the capabilities of western technology. now we are definitely establishing a connection with mr. mykola. we can be heard, as unfortunately i can't see the studio . i lost contact with it. i can hear it, but i haven't seen it. well, it's within the limits of the tank. in fact , i'm only focusing on the sound. now we'll just try and show the video where it is precisely this 47th brigade that is carrying out these first actions using the bradley. and i would like you to comment on the tactical conditions in which this offensive is being carried out and on the fact that in fact the american ukrainian military made the same conclusions that in those conditions this was the optimal way of conducting hostilities and the unit showed itself at a high tactical level, because the personnel was preserved

, the bmp covered another bmp, but i think that your experience in training tank units is much more than that of copper, so i would like you to outline how you acted our units in this particular story with the 47th brigade with the bradley leopards, well, first of all, from the footage, uh, from this video, we see that uh, the reconnaissance group advancing along the route , they really ran into a minefield that had not been there before it was discovered that this could be either the previous one was installed and disguised minefield, or remotely installed minefield, but several days passed and it was very difficult to detect which ones were in the grass at the speed of combat vehicles at 20-30 km/h

. actually, we saw what happened detonation of er mines after that another warship tried to bypass another impression and then opened er the enemies opened fire i understand that mine fields as science writes were more observational and the enemy used either anti-tank artillery or er properly speaking er, some means of impression, er, and acted very competently. the crew of that bmp, which began, er, to return fire, covering both the terrain and those machines that received an impression, and the personnel managed to evacuate and withdraw . that is why those personnel were also appreciated by the westerners

specialists and even russian specialists are those who discuss similar situations, but on several alpine forms, yes, among them there are a mountain of patriots who shout that we have defeated everyone, but there are also those who clearly think that yes, here are the real actions. here is the result, personnel the cars have been preserved, yes, one of them is probably not a reversible loss, all the rest can be repaired, but for this they need to be evacuated from the battlefield, mr. mykola, and i wanted to ask you about, in particular, the armor protection of western equipment, there were two examples on the one hand there, it was precisely strikes on the bradley infantry fighting vehicle with mlrs, and then there was an example when this e f in finland is an armored personnel carrier e-e x 180 according to our military that this armored personnel carrier there in the formula 6x6 e-e

withstood the detonation of as many as three anti-tank mines and ensured, in particular, the preservation of the life of the crew of ya i would like you to and this armored personnel carrier is actually an old, not a new, finnish armored personnel carrier . i would like you to comment on whether the design capabilities of these armored personnel carriers of finnish or other nato countries really differ so much compared to soviet armored personnel carriers or even possibly ours, or do these really have such a margin of safety machines there is a greater in counteraction against the name of the threat, you understand, the situation has developed so that this soviet school of development and construction of armored personnel carriers , it was based on the first development that was made in the 50s in the late 50s when

i will create an armored personnel carrier-60, and an armored personnel carrier, then an armored personnel carrier, then an armored personnel carrier-60p, that is, a floating armored personnel carrier, then an armored personnel carrier-60p - are they floating or with a turret, but er, there was no such saturation with various anti-tank means, including mines, er, and well, not enough attention was paid to this. well, if you look, absolutely all soviet armored personnel carriers are flat-bottomed, and what’s more, no matter what anyone says there, not even about him, there are tools, uh, rather, there is steel, ordinary iron, 4 mm, uh- eh, only the sides of the armored personnel carrier and the stern, the forehead and the roof from above, this armor is so, er, yes, the armored personnel carrier if it drives there alone

the wheel explodes under the wheel, the wheel is torn off, the element of the suspension, but at the same time, the blast wave usually also destroys the crew members or landing forces who are in the area of ​​the explosion , and they usually get an impression both from secondary fragments and from of the shock wave, oh, and this is contusions of medium degrees of severity , at least, oh , and shrapnel injuries. the strength and construction of the hulls. in this way, when an analogue of an anti-tank mine or the equivalent of 6 kg of tnt was detonated under the wheel, it ensured the preservation of the life

and health of the crew members and the landing party. concepts, that is, the armored personnel carrier was designed more than 50 years ago. so it fulfilled its tasks. i would like you to evaluate two more parameters of western equipment first , so the ability to conduct combat operations at night. so we have a video where the bradley infantry fighting vehicle is possible, the same with the 47th brigade carries out an attack on the enemy using night vision devices, and this, in my opinion, is essential. well, a step forward, because even ours in the ukrainian army had a limited number of armored vehicles that could , in particular, fight at night . many, and they stood out among other machines precisely because of the possibility of modern equipment, to what extent this western

technology prevails over russian and soviet technology, precisely because of the emphasis on the technological area in relation to thermal imagers and the control system by fire, mr. sergey, i will give one single example. in 985, i already became a senior lieutenant, and mastered new tanks for myself at that time , the t-72a tank, yes, yes, the night sight on the t-72 tank was er in 1985 tpn 1:49:23 ot eh, he was a little older than me, i was 23 years old at the time, and at the same time, in the same 1985, leopard 2a4 tanks already had thermal imaging devices, that is, thermal imaging sights

with a detection range of up to 3 km for the enemy and conducting effective e-e fire at a range of up to 2 km in 1985 the thermal imager has not heard such a word, that is, in fact, we are talking about the fact that we are now receiving equipment that is several heads higher than what the russian army has now. the question is that this system should be used on the battlefield, but now the component is connected with the firepower of western equipment, they say that the leopard can see much further, relatively speaking, and the russian tank can see up to 10 km, the range of a direct shot is much greater, and others say, well, what is the point of this , if, relatively speaking, everything is equal there, theaters or combat operations are such that it is possible to go further than 2 km. there is no need to use this

potential because the terrain there prevents it. what do you think about this from the point of view of the firepower of western and tanks compared to the russian ones? the first thing is the quality of the optics. er eight times to 12 times german and american french optics, they are much better than soviet optics, no matter what anyone says, and then the question of psychology comes into play, and when a person observes the area, his eyes fall in love, and even more so when you you look at the sight with a certain magnification and a person begins to react only when the picture changes to the movement. so the picture is there where the optics are 8-9x, so it starts to change somewhere from a distance closer than

one and a half kilometers. and if you understand that the quality the optics are not very good because there is either greening or yellowing around until you come across western sights , it is very difficult to see the difference, but they don’t have such a thing, not only that, they have a variable multiplicity eh two eight four 12 that is, you start for so that there is no such thing as fatigue. so, you start working regularly with multiples and regularly observe, and at a much greater distance you begin to detect the difference and the movement of a person at a distance of 500-600 m is much easier to detect through western-style sights than through soviet sights, and for equipment - this is a distance of about

half a kilometer. and when you see an enemy who is 2.5-2 km away from you, and he begins to detect you only after you have fired a shot at him, this is very important because at such distances 1.5-2 km 2.5 km ot western equipment guarantees 90% of the impression soviet equipment only 50-60% of damage and mr. mykola therefore on the last question in view of the fact that time always coincides faster than desired which now there will be challenges facing the developers of armored vehicles, from which they will now be more protected from anti-tank weapons or anti-tank ammunition, which will now become the main parade for designers . what do you think? i think that the problem will have to

be leveled comprehensively. why? munitions are now being developed by absolutely all countries that have the technological capabilities for this, and there will be a direction in the development of protective munitions, so it is necessary to create warheads that will be able to hit armor protection, including with dynamic protection, explosive or explosive, there is no difference i.e. to hit the elements of dynamic protection first, then the main armor , and these are probably cumulative funnels of 60-70 mm caliber, but with a focal distance of the accumulative jet of about one meter or even the impact cores are there, the caliber must be at least 150 mm

, so the designer will have to find a middle ground or create means against air defense that will work to protect each armored object individually or create a powerful organizational structure that will cover one or the other divisions as part of a whole division of defense munitions and then there is still time for one question , your company is engaged in the development of simulators for various types of weapons equipment and that is against the background of the appearance of a significant number of western models weapons technology, do you already have proposals for the creation of simulators specifically for western technology? if not, does our ministry of defense at least understand that this segment of e-e technology services should be expanded based on the capabilities of our companies

. unfortunately, the ministry of defense with such problems have not yet been encountered, although inquiries are already coming from the brigades, do you have them, and even our western colleagues are already starting to ask questions what, you have received such a type of tank, now you have the opportunity to study it familiarize yourself with it. could you develop a simulator from the... unfortunately, the general staff from the structures of the general staff and this is primarily combat training - it is the responsibility of the general staff ... the ministry of defense is not being forced to work at such a pace that it starts working on by the organization of exactly such projects why because the development of a simulator for the same leopard 2 or

leopard 2a6 tank takes at least a year, and unfortunately, we have budgetary organizations, and the legislation works so that no one will allocate money for the future there by one and a half to two years to get the result p mykola, thank you very much for your inclusion and for your comments on the topic of simulators, we will return repeatedly because we believe that this is an extremely important direction of increasing the effectiveness of the use of weapons, and i will remind our viewers that ferikha with the press, because mykola salamakha, lieutenant colonel, retired, head projects, defense and industrial companies, energy 2000, and then we will talk about the use of drones that are being developed in ukraine. but this is after the informational pause, stay tuned on our channel for a few minutes every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world

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