[000:00:00;00] i think there was a report that prigozhyn did not confirm the agreement , it is difficult to understand where the truth is now. well, if it is real, here is another statement, did vk wagner want to disband. fighters now at the moment when blood can be spilled, therefore we understand all the responsibility for what can be against such a person from one side. well, er, so then maybe the truth is the negotiations with dyumin, and not the negotiations with er, lukashenka, and in this situation dyumin can replace shoigu

, this can be the result but we don't know, it can all be beautiful words about the spilled russian blood oh, it can be well, he understood it when he was walking , of course , when they were beaten, they were beaten, that's the same question. called him oh-oh-oh a traitor , now he won't call him, they were going to arrest and kill him well, you see, it's very difficult for us to work with the material when we see all the changes in the situation literally during the broadcast, this is a huge problem and the most important thing how much can we trust any information when on the one hand prigozhyn says that he did not accept any offer from lukashenka and on the other hand

he says that we are not twisting columns or telling the truth prigozhyn this is also uh well, of course, it can be a lot, but it is interesting if it is true and he really made an agreement there either with lukashenka or with dyumin and is deploying troops. what will putin say tomorrow? indeed, he will come out and say, you know , we are sorry, the real hero of russia, yevgeny prigozhin, i signed a decree from his own the title of the hero of russia is idiotically true, that is, if he had remained silent afterwards he would have remained silent until tonight and everyone is saying and why is putin silent and why is putin silent, but now everyone understands why should we learn from this because he solved the problem and now he announced in the morning prigozhina became an enemy of the people in the evening prigozhyn became a friend

of the people and somehow it will be strange if he is forgiven, it is very strange , this is such a thing. he's not in prison well, maybe he doesn't have a chance yet well, we have to wait another 15 minutes, we already have time, the program is running and i won't be surprised that there will be a change in the situation , the problem is that this is a statement that came out in e

-e telegram channels , the press service of prigozhina and she is now being referred to. cornflowers bahmuta boghdanovka the ministry of defense has reported that we have used this opportunity in any case . we do not know whether it will continue in our country or whether it will end literally now. however , we were able to use it. and this is very good , any weakening of the russian federation gives us the opportunity to work effectively at the front and perhaps diplomatically. however, it seems to you, mr. vitaly, that somehow the western leaders kept silent today, this is really an internal matter of the russian federation, the russians are here. nobody who was not attacked by one bandit attacked others, and they can really believe that there is a huge problem related to nuclear weapons , here i completely agree with valery chaly , who said about this that the west is the most important thing that

his -he is worried about the situation related to nuclear weapons and confirmed that there are real threats such as the use of nuclear weapons, but at the same time he says that they do not see the use, that the probability of use will be just now. well, we are talking about others, not about the use of nuclear weapons, but about the fact that if as a result of some rebellions in russia there will not be a single center of control over nuclear weapons, i apologize, these nuclear weapons can simply be thrown by moscow into the funnel because there will be some group of people who will not like this group of people who will be in moscow and they carry around this group of people tactically looking after them can be anything and here the question is that even with putin's russia can be considered in the west as a state with which it is still possible to conduct

some kind of dialogue, although i honestly there is no such impression because if they can blow up the dam of the kakhova hpp, then you can enter into a dialogue with them about it, but you always understand the idea of ​​measures that in russia's place there can be a huge somalia with nuclear weapons. do you remember that in soviet times, the soviet union they called the upper volta with missiles but in the upper volta there was centralized power, it was simply a poor state, but if there were not several centers of state power in somalia of centralized power , such a situation persists until now , imagine such a situation in russia and on the territory each of these states has nuclear weapons and each of the states does not recognize international norms because you are all imperialists and bastards and each of these states is working to be able to use these nuclear weapons against another neighboring state that does not recognize it russia because we we understand that every state on the territory of the russian federation , at least the russian state from an ethnic point of view, will claim the role of a single

indivisible one, and if, relatively speaking, belgorod does not want to join kursk, then mount belgorod, let's drop the bomb belgorod well, this is what he is afraid of. to date, the west has still demonstrated putin's very serious weakness and his lack of control over the situation, but the russian mass media are now writing that they conveniently offered to refuse to go to moscow in exchange for security guarantees for the wagner pvk and a promise to solve the question of the stall and let's talk. well, it was obvious that it was the case with the history, well, agree, how can you, where are the guarantees , it's the same as what we would like to receive security guarantees from putin, and we say what security guarantees are released, he will deceive the next day and all despite the fact that we are still separated from putin by a state border

in one way or another and there is someone to protect ukraine with our own army and state structures but we don't believe a single word he says, but prigozhin , he has returned, he has withdrawn some of his camps units from the front surrounded these camps and exterminated this beauty. well, that's what i'm talking about. well, i think that's how it will be. if these agreements are in place, sooner or later the beauty will be removed, then she won't forgive him for this traitor. i think so too, i just want to to understand what, what, in principle, prigozhin counts on when he negotiates with the russians about some, uh, things, well, i don’t understand - behind them, we have russian leaders , but then anyway, in this situation, mr. vitaly, what do you think, it doesn’t work out the leader is conventionally speaking a beauty because anyone else can be in his place

. who with the help of a small number of people, 15,000 is not so much, can blackmail the leader of the russian federation and impose conditions on him . of course, by the way, what ilya just wrote on twitter ponomaryov that when there was a raid on the belgorod region that they indicated that even brains can be taken such a group of armed people, how prigozhin easily reached 200 km to moscow, they showed that this is true, well, he could not have flown to moscow but half of european russia was controlled by a different force than the legal russian state and he would have succeeded. it seems to me not to moscow itself. as you pointed out, but they were already close, and it would be such a president, and it would be a chance. true, vitaly, if the security forces refused to be with putin, and maybe if the people rebelled, well, i, the people, i don’t think that the people will rebel, there is nothing to rebel against, the people are all right from the point of view. well, there, uh

, gentlemen, uh, they are fighting over the slaves, the forelocks are cracking . well, we will have some good government. but we don’t have to participate in this. let's see, i'll tell you everything on television katya andreeva i don't know if there's anyone else there that's what the same ilya ponomarev wrote uh what if uh his idea is that his uh - the forecasts are correct, but i have to say this by the way because it is an important thing uh it was 18 uh that night it's two o'clock on the night of this day. well, that is, 18, one day. if my predictions are correct , this is all pre-contractual. and that all this is an agreement between prigozhina and putin, then very soon the orchestra and its artist director will simply uh-uh take place in africa. and if something

it will go wrong and the mutiny will really start, we will see amazing things, let's say that not only the russian elite, but also the so-called opposition will start swearing to putin that if only it wasn't beautiful, thanks to this auto shaft effect , everything is possible and uh, it was done and by the way, as you can see ponomaryov is now closer to there is more confirmation of the truth, an audio recording of prigozhin, where he confirms that he is deploying his columns from moscow, let's listen to chvk wagner, they wanted to disband , we went to the march of justice on june 23, in a day we walked less than 200 km to moscow , during this time we did not shed a single drop

of blood of our fighters, the moment has now come when blood can be spilled, therefore, realizing the full responsibility for the fact that russian blood will be spilled from one side, we deploy our columns and go in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan so it has already been officially confirmed yes, but to mr. vitaliy what the former deputy of the russian state duma ilya ponomaryev wrote, if this is an agreement, then the contract is in the slang language of prigozhin and putin. what is it for? in order to provoke a ukrainian offensive and then destroy the ukrainian army because the ukrainian team, from putin 's point of view, could believe the internal destabilization in russia to launch an offensive and in this situation simply find themselves in a jam because

there is no destabilization and we already have you can calmly destroy the ukrainian army at the moment when we started here and, in principle , put an end to any attempts by ukrainians to liberate their own territory at least until next year. our leadership is not stupid either. moment so that putin , at the same time, did not have to withdraw the troops from the front. what is the point of paying attention to prigozhin's establishment when they are trying to extinguish it by the military, if they started to withdraw the troops from the front - this could really be such a trigger for the unexpected offensive while they are not at the front we will break through their defense lines but there , not a single military unit left the front putin began to use a completely different resource , he began to er call the kadyrov troops, he began to remove from er combat duty or units that were on the territory of the russian federation, however, the front units were located where they were, so i don't know

how much it can be considered a real, real plan, and even if there was such a plan, it was not, uh, formalized, uh, really, very strange they wrote very strange scenarios, what did putin gain from this? i don't know. i'm sure that our ukrainian army will cope and they see what's happening on the front directly . in the political sense, putin has already lost anyway, well, another question arises, why at 20:15, prigozhyn emphasized that he did not accept any proposals from lukashenka and that all this is a lie, and at 9:00 p.m. 44 minutes at 8:44

p.m. he said that he was withdrawing the columns back what happened 30 minutes before this time, this is also a very good question, his voice , i thought that he had already been destroyed and they were simply publishing something on his behalf, but we will talk if someone believes in the threat . the next time he shouts that he is -he wants to protect the russians from the oligarchs that this whole gang is criminal and now what has changed in this situation, how does the news perceive it, so today we are going to free russia from these oligarchs, we are deploying convoys to the west, eh, so it is interesting to

watch all of this, by the way kadyrivtsi ot question v on social networks, the members of the academies have reached somewhere. the cadres have already officially supported putin in this situation and rightfully in the cadres from by the way, he came to rostov from the front, perhaps in order to fraternize with prigol and not to quarrel with him , but this morning there was a statement from him that he supported eh statement well, the wagnerites were captured. there are certain videos that lukashenka really called prigozhina. that's right , but dyumin conducted the negotiations. lukashenko simply attributed dyumin's success to himself. that's why the belarusian

official media is now saying that he saved his father russia. i think that prigozhin simply did not want the negotiators to get to lukashenko and now dyumin, who i repeat many times was called putin's heir, and now dyumin does not hold any real position, he was the president in bed, so his personal guards , adjutants were the commander special operations forces have enough positions for a russian general, the governor of the tula region , the deputy minister of defense, now he does not hold a position, the question arises how prigozhin can believe the guarantees of a person who does not hold a position no position in russia means that dyumin has something that he can offer

a bribe well, again, what are we saying that these are all bandit groups, groups and yes or it was specially organized it was a specially organized performance it could also be but then why by the way lukashenko flew out of the country, there is a report that his board left belarus today, as well as putin's board, on which only putin flies, flew out of moscow today, just go to his home there in the new galova, whether he is in charge or not obliged to sit in moscow especially since convoys of wagnerians are going to moscow it would be strange and this was an agreement so why could he just fly to valdai ?

the kremlin seems to be the place to fly to putin for a year and agree on what role you will be assigned in this performance, well, that is, we still don't know what will happen next, and the russian elite. we are it we know, but all these messages can be an information cover for the story itself, we will find out in a few minutes or hours what it was, do you really understand that it was a performance from the first moment, or did the russian authorities really accept some conditions prigozhina, this is a good question, by the way, they are already writing that not all the wagnerites are satisfied with the decision of gogoshena and an internal rebellion may start there, it is also possible that this is some part of the plan or vice versa, now you can build a lot because of such difficult

situations. yesterday, when i was on the air, it started this story and we were forced literally i would say from the wheels to comment and when we did not understand at all how can this happen 24 hours have passed angelica and in this same television broadcast i have to record the end of these situations from various processes so it is not known what kind of real guarantees there might be adventures offered, why should we also be aware of a simple thing even if we imagine that this is not a performance of prigozhyn's character, it may be that i am simply not a very intelligent person or can actually believe in some things and his

it's just, well, he'll just die, er, the death of this hero is not because someone violates the guarantees, and also he will be killed, er, ukrainians are not satisfied that he did not overthrow his putin or the ukrainian, they are calling our hero beautiful and we will solemnly bury him not as a traitor but as a hero, tell us that we are cemeteries or i will tell you that he was indeed a traitor, you can turn on the timer so when the beauty is eliminated, you can , or maybe i will bring you somewhere to disappear, this is true and it can also disappear, you mean that he will be killed and will do nothing while walking will he simply receive these security guarantees and go somewhere in europe to pay in europe, which europe, he has to pay, but in the center of the african republic, which europe, no one in europe will fit for a position in turkey no, it is not possible, no, he is a criminal like otorechchin he is not dmytro medvezev or someone there, i don’t know, herman rowed to fly to turkey

, he doesn’t have such opportunities, but in the central african republic he can get the truth or in mali or in sudan well, but this is some kind of prospect for the rest of his life this kind of thing happens a lot in switzerland, probably not every day, different things happen, but by the way, they write that the security forces, well, this also happened this afternoon, in fact, that the security forces raided the houses of the wagnerites so that they would not join the prigozhina, and this is also quite strange. elements they included in this history of agreements to make it look like it is true yes and it is really strange but on the other hand if you have the entire state machine in your hands why can't you er er give it to the fsb you think

i will go somewhere , some people will still go, but they created a real war, they killed real people. they bombed er bridges when i come now, what is he saying, what horror could i convey, the blood of er russian people could be spilled. and when they shot down helicopters , nothing was spilled, the position of the russians in this sense. today we saw that of course ticket prices have risen, a lot of people, especially in the zaboroney region , eventually left on flights to istanbul. for example, i know for sure that all train tickets were sold out. a ticket to istanbul, so they tried to reach at least other regions of the russian federation by train, that is, a certain destabilization bought up products, it was like the russians now . how do you think they will perceive the situation in the place of a resident of rostov who can leave the place? you understand that there will be fights in the city. well, of course you want to

to go somewhere, but now it is not clear why you flew out and everything is already over, as if it is over or not, how can you trust all these people, their statements, their promises, this is a good question, i don't know i don't have an answer to this question. to be honest, it seems to me that it would be very strange if the russians continued to remain russia as if nothing had happened . today clearly demonstrated that putin , regardless of what kind of dictator he is , cannot manage this situation and control the power in russia. and it seems to me that if the russians were a slightly smarter nation, they would firstly take advantage of this moment . already 140 million to take somewhere to go, right 140 million no, well, that's the problem. i say it again. i think that for

any average russian , the conclusion is that it is better than all politicians not to participate because people can at 9 o'clock: 00 in the morning to say that they will destroy the oligarchic regime , and at 20 o'clock in the evening to say that everything is fine, there is no need to pour the blood of the russians at 8:15 p.m. plan and at 20:45 to say we turn the columns what happened in 30 minutes, no one will ever know, and the russian oligarchs only mentioned rotenberg to him today that he might have flown out, maybe not, and the others , how to perceive putin now in view of what happened in russia, so somehow they crossed paths that they live in russia, and the control is putin's situation, is it possible that they now want to overthrow putin on their own somehow? i think they have such opportunities, listen, the oligarchs have long lost any real influence on politics, as we

can see, these armed men have armed men and financial resource to pour in to be putin's wallet well, it all ended a long time ago, if you see how the russian economy has changed over the last uh, 8 years, especially in the last 16 months, the energy has long been over, all of it is directed where to the people's republic of china, who are there oligarch, it's all state companies that can all oligarchs have long since lost all opportunities to influence the power of oligarchic russia in which the oligarchs decide something is not there, this is all an illusion about which , of course, with the west, they were fueled to a certain extent, that the oligarchs can gather and everything that solve no, we all would have been told a long time ago, turn over your money in russia, who does not hide, we are not to blame, they did not take it seriously in february. last year , what happened was that we warned them from the kremlin. well , that's the end of their story. russia is no longer

an oligarchic state. the totalitarian czech state and the money it receives, it receives not at the expense of private business, but at the expense of the fact that it sells oil and gas in china and in india, this is all how they do not affect putin at all now, who the oligarchs do not affect at all you can see on the remote control who influences putin. let putin be influenced by a person who is ready to shoot and a person who is ready not to give him money. well, he went to her to develop. it is difficult to say what any people who think seriously about themselves, they just left with their money a long time ago and live there somewhere in london or somewhere else and everyone else well, what can i say, everyone else is adapting because they seem to know how to make money only in this way well,

putin and today they talked about it with our experts also believe that someone is in putin's entourage who supported prigozhina and this is basically biology. i think that there is no one in putin's circle who supported me. i apologize, he went straight for it, of course, because he knew that i could arrest him, he could really act like a human action which can be er seriously planted under er branches of mud and he had the only choice in this situation either to prove that he has the power resources to win or lose and end up in prison by the way we still don't know whether he won or lost you yourself still do not know this, but i do i think that all these conversations about the fact that she had some kind of power that supported him will be refuted by yesterday's statements of sura vykin and oleksii and by the fact that the entire russian government swore to putin literally immediately after putin's speech, i will not exaggerate

the enormous importance of the fact that putin acted in the union for implementation in the union with some powerful elements because he is a foreign figure in this whole nomenclature, this is a nomenclature power, there can be no place for people like prigozhyn in it if they do not take this power and do not lead it, i was sure honestly saying that prigozhyn will either go to the end because he has no other option or if he loses, he will be arrested at least, well, now we are in the middle of your options , but this does not mean that in the next half hour or hour the situation will change, and we are forced to stay on our air and finish this program of ours so i just note that the espresso broadcast will continue to be special for you after the final news release and will be hosted by vasyl zima and vitaliy portnikov, yes vitaliy, you

are still working well, now now issue of news that represents the aval market to you please 9:00 p.m. in ukraine news time on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval and about the most important thing just now the armed forces of ukraine have begun to move forward in several eastern directions, this is the walnut and sedge bakhmut bohdanivka, the berry tick and the blackberry , the deputy minister said of defense hanna malyar, on the other hand, the enemy unsuccessfully launched an offensive on the kupyan lyman and marino directions, on the southern front line , heavy fighting continues, the enemy is on the defensive and