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[000:00:00;00] well, i'll be honest with you. we saw a woman with you. yes, and there were women who also joined, who glued something at night, hung yellow ribbons, drew graffiti of the zsu, there are a lot of them, and we still don't know what the real exact number of us is, because i'm leaving out that we more than 3000, there are many activists who cannot dump the results of their work there and just work, and we will already know the fact, please, also near the city council of kherson, there is a yellow ribbon right there. i hope that mr. streamaus from kherson oda was walking there, the balance was seen yellow ribbons have you heard anything about the yellow ribbon? well, i just saw it in the morning when i was driving in transport and
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they were tying yellow ribbons, and in the morning you could see that someone had been working since the night, it somehow helped you, supported you, you believed that ours would come, but when ours were on the streets on poles, we now felt that such is the will and freedom. we calmly walk around the city. being under occupation for 8 months is like being in a vise. we were afraid to walk around the city - it's true. tell me, we walked down, we looked down so as not to see them. ana, if he told me that even a banal thing, please excuse me, my sneakers are black and yellow. where is the yellow me i painted, you were a partisan, now you see how many flags the ukrainians hung up, so they found them, hid them and
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hung them up, and when these liberators came, the russian drivers of the liberators, we all tied these white rags to the cars so that you could shoot the people who had cars, they clung to the tape, they were so dirty , they became this russian poem, dirty white rag and everyone was waiting, only our dirty rag was listening, people were talking, they saw a yellow ribbon for them, it was a kind of hope, how did you react when you heard the palindrome track, my kherson, which we made, we were awesome, i really like it
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i liked that he showed kherson as it is and in this clip there is freedom, and freedom is also the national idea of ukrainians, he did not show there in sharovarshchyna how they are trying to impose this on us. the national idea, our national idea is freedom and victory, we really tried very hard to make this video the same as it was for the people of kherson. we even made a call there with local experts , so cool, listen, and this portrait of a hard-working man is whose work i don't know. things are very cool i i didn’t immediately understand what it was or a zaluzhnik thought that it was hrushevsky for real and with us god is his chieftain zaluzhny it’s very cool friends we met with ivan ivan is also one of
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the founders of the yellow ribbon movement so actually these are the heroes of our history tell me where we are now why are we at the address of kulik 128, third - 129 thank you, kyrylo strumos lived in this house, according to our activists and local effective 48, we plan to draw a large yellow ribbon at the entrance so that it would remind the local people to scare kyrylo and the collaborators who still remained here it didn’t happen like that and it’s going to work, friends. we can’t shoot in the format of our usual stories because what the guys do
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is really important and publicity is dangerous for them. it’s a great joy that they agreed to talk with us, so i’m sorry for the fact that some shots may be from backs, it's not so aesthetically pleasing, but it's safer for the boys. be careful, there's a curb. we had a great time filming in kherson today. we managed almost everything we planned, and the last few heroes told us quite a lot about the resistance. that's exactly what we're focusing on and
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what we want to talk about first of all, because the stories of deoccupation are stories about how people heroically resisted the occupation and brought our victory closer and closer to the occupation of all territories, including crimea, which will later be deoccupied and to which we will definitely go to film de-occupation and actually we also had several conversations that either we will not be able to show everything or there was one hero who completely refused a-and we had a very nice talk with him, but unfortunately we will not be able to convey this yet in this series because there was talk about how collaborators were killed. and as we know from the news in kherson, they were killed regularly
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. very good people from kherson worked on this, for which we are terribly grateful to them, and we hope that those who are watching us now may be watching crimea will think of something and do something with their collaborators, this will bring us closer to our victory. and we filmed a story about kherson in two teams. at first , karina, the producer, traveled and filmed part of this story. today we had a very busy , interesting day. we visited kherson for the first time. after his liberation from the occupation, and even though the day was such that we were tired, but somehow , i personally have such a very pleasant feeling inside me , such a quiet joy and peace, because in fact, what we saw was
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incredible people. we drove through the streets and people just waved at the windows to our buses, the drivers honked a little more, people unfurled the flags, i was still impressed by the story, we went into one of the yards and there a woman was planting a tree, a seedling of which was given to her by a neighbor and said, planted in the yard, our victory, let it grow, gave may be free and said well, the honor of such an event, plant a tree, all this was done with such sincerity and almost everyone cried, both men and women , it was so sincere, we already found out, and karina and the team were at the beginning, we were so divided, but in fact, we made such a large series about kherson about the diversity of this resistance, because the resistance in kherson was real, really powerful, and i think it
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is growing i welcome you to the espresso channel today in our program we will talk about the combat experience of using new weapons both western and ukrainian because the armed forces are now a unique army in the arsenal of which consists of the largest number of western samples of weapons from various manufacturers and new developments from ukrainian enterprises are added, so for this we can unequivocally state that currently no other army in europe
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does not have the experience of combining such a varied potential. also, ukraine became the first battlefield where western weapons and ukrainian skills are opposed to new russian models and soviet stock . our weapons on the battlefield and how the enemy reacts to it, we will talk about it with expert guests in our program , my name is serhiy zhorits, i am the director of an information consulting company defense express, which, together with the espresso channel, strives to cover the most relevant events in tsarist security. now we are joined by mykola salamakha, a retired lieutenant colonel, an expert on armored british tank equipment and a project manager at the defense industry company energy 2000, mr. mykola. welcome to the espresso channel. glory to ukraine, glory
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to the heroes. songs, in particular, on the zaporozhye front, we first saw the use of various types of western armored vehicles. there we saw leopards , saw bradley infantry fighting vehicles, finnish eyes, french armored personnel carriers m.m. wheeled tanks, engineering demining systems and have seen the first examples of their use, and i would like you to first give your own general assessments and preliminary conclusions from those examples of tactical combat operations and whether it can be argued that there western equipment in particular is more reliable, gives more opportunities protection of the crew and the landing party, that is, what could you summarize such preliminary results from those first combat operations in view of the situation that is now being illuminated in the information space we are going to overcome
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the enemy's combat protection line and exit to in some areas on the first e-e line of defense of the enemy and many military units that received western weapons , those western weapons began to be used precisely in the course of this kind of walking in places, this is conducting reconnaissance in places - this is an assault on individual strongholds of the enemy , carrying out a maneuver and we encountered by the fact that we began to gain experience in the operation of that which we did not yet have exactly western equipment , that is, they did not see that the same 47th brigade , while trying to carry out combat reconnaissance, lost
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several bradley infantry fighting vehicles and even leopard-2a-6 tanks, but here for that one of the tasks that western equipment should perform, this is saving the lives of crew members and landing forces, this western equipment performed and we even saw interviews of soldiers who took part in these hostilities and who remained alive and unharmed uh, who rated very highly the security of this equipment, uh, uh, uh, i'll interrupt you a little now , we'll ask our directors to find this video, where exactly is the battle of the 47th magura brigade, where is uh, bradley , and where leopards and where exactly when is this the first video there were comments that
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there was an unsuccessful example of an attack by a ukrainian unit, and then there were different and different assessments, there american experts began to analyze and said that in fact, in those conditions, ukrainian soldiers made the most of the possibilities of the equipment in those tactical conditions that were difficult on the field battle, and then another fighter of this brigade, a czech, told that in fact our bmp first ran into mines. then there was shelling from the second, then helicopters, and in these conditions, they fulfilled the combat task, now this is a video, i would like you to commented in more detail on the tactical actions and capabilities of western equipment. now we are definitely establishing contact, mr. mykola , we can be heard, as unfortunately i can't see the studio, i lost contact with it, i can hear it, but i haven't seen it. well, it's almost
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like being in a tank, in fact, i'm only focusing the sound is simple now, we will try to show a video where this 47th brigade is carrying out these first actions using bradley . and the american ukrainian military came to the same conclusion that in those conditions it was the optimal way to conduct hostilities and the unit showed itself at a high tactical level because the personnel was preserved. copper, i would like you to outline how our units acted in this particular story with the 47th brigade with the bradley leopards, well, first of all, from the footage, it is from
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this video that we see that the group yes a reconnaissance unit advancing along the route, they really ran into a minefield that had not been detected before, this could be either a previously installed and disguised minefield, or a remotely installed minefield, but several days passed and they detected mines in the grass at speed the movement of combat vehicles at 20-30 km/h is very difficult. actually, we saw that a mine detonation took place. after that, another combat vehicle tried to bypass another impression, and then the enemy opened fire. i understand
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that mini fields, as science writes, suited the sign it was more of an observation and the enemy used either anti-tank artillery or er. actually, er, some means of impression er and acted very competently. the crew of this bmp, which began er to return fire, covering both the terrain and the machines that received the impression is that the personnel managed to evacuate and withdraw. western specialists and even russian specialists who discuss similar situations in several russian forms, yes , among them there are a mountain of patriots who shout that we have defeated everyone, but there are also those who clearly
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they think that yes, here are the real actions. here is the result, the personnel is saved. well, the machines are yes, one of them is probably not a reversible loss, all the rest. well, they can be repaired, but for this they need to be evacuated from the battlefield, mr. mykola, i wanted to ask you about the armor protection of western equipment in particular, there were two examples, on the one hand, there were just hits on the bradley infantry fighting vehicle with mlrs, and then there was an example when this finnish is an apc e-e 180 according to our military that this apc there in the formula 6x6 e-e withstood the blast as many as three anti-tank mines and provided in particular
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saving the lives of the crew i would like you to and this apc is actually an old one, it is a new finnish apc the margin of safety of these machines is greater in counteraction against the name of the threat, you understand the situation has developed so that this school of soviet and development and construction of selected transporters was based on the first development which 50 was made at the end of the 50s, when i will create an armored personnel carrier-60, and an armored personnel carrier, then an armored personnel carrier-60p, that is, a floating armored personnel carrier, then an armored personnel carrier-60p - are they floating or with a turret, but there was not such a saturation with various anti-tank means, including mines
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, er, and this was not paid enough attention. and if you look, absolutely all soviet armored personnel carriers are flat-bottomed, and er, no matter what anyone says there, not even about there are tools there, or rather, there is steel, ordinary iron, 4 mm, but only the sides of the armored personnel carrier and the stern, the forehead and the top of the roof, this is the armor. well, yes, if the armored personnel carrier drives there with one wheel, an explosion occurs under the wheel, and the wheel is torn off, an element of the suspensions , but at the same time, the explosion was approved, as a rule, it also collapses below and those members of the crew or landing party who are in the area of the explosion, they usually get an impression both from secondary fragments and from the shock wave
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, oh, oh, and this is contusions of at least medium degrees of severity, oh, and shrapnel injuries , oh, western school of designing armored vehicles, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, they went immediately to lay the strength system and build the hulls. in this way, when detonated under the wheel, an analogue of an anti-tank mine or the equivalent of 6 kg of tnt ensured the preservation of the life and health of the crew members and the landing party. we can see the result of this work of this concern , that is, the armored personnel carrier was designed more than 50 years ago. so it fulfilled
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the tasks set. i would like you to evaluate two more parameters of western equipment first here is the ability to conduct combat operations at night. here we have a video where the bradley infantry fighting vehicle of the same 47th brigade, perhaps, attacks the enemy using night vision devices, and this is essential to me. a step forward, because even ours in the ukrainian army had a limited number of armored vehicles that could, in particular, fight at night . with an emphasis on the technological level regarding thermal imagers and the fire control system, mr. serhii, i will give one single example
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. in the fifth year, i already became a senior lieutenant, and i was learning new tanks for myself at that time, the t-72a tank , yes, on the t-72 tank, there was a night sight in 1985, tpn 1:49:23, he was a little older than me, i was 23 years old at the time, and at the same time, in the same year 1985 , leopard 2a4 tanks already had thermal imaging devices , that is, thermal imaging sights with range of enemy detection at a distance of up to 3 km recognition and they introduce effective fire at a range of up to 2 km . in 1985, i did not hear such a word thermal imager, that is, in fact, we
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are talking about the fact that we are now receiving equipment that is several heads higher than what the russian army has now. so that its tactical system can be used on the battlefield, but now the component is related to the firepower of western equipment, so they say that the leopard can relatively speaking see much further, and the russian tank can see up to 10 km , the range of a direct shot is much greater others say, well, what's the point in this, if you can say that everything is equal there , the theaters of combat are such that it is possible to go further than 2 km, eh . there is no need, eh, to use it, there is potential , because the terrain there interferes. what do you think about this from the point of view in view of the firepower of western and tanks compared to russian ones. and this is the first quality of the optics, that is eight times to 12 times the german, american , french optics, they are much better than
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the soviet optics, no matter what anyone says, and then the issue of psychology already works. when a person observes the area, the eye becomes enamored. and even more so when you look into the scope with a certain magnification, and the person begins to react only when the picture changes to the movement. so, the picture is there where the optics are 8-9 times, so it begins to change somewhere from a distance closer than one and a half kilometers, eh. and if you understand that the quality of the optics is not very good, because there is either greening or yellowing around , until you come into contact with western sights , it is very difficult to catch the difference, but they
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do not have such a thing in them variable multiplicity er two eight four 12 that is, you start so that there is no this is fatigue so you begin to regularly work with multiples and regularly observe and at a much greater distance you begin to detect the difference and movement er even the movement of a person at a distance of 500- 600 m is much easier to detect through western-style sights than through soviet sights , and for equipment - this is a distance of about half a kilometer. fired a shot at him this one is very important
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because at such distances 1.5-2 km 2.5 km western equipment guarantees a 90% impression soviet equipment only 50-60% hits and mr. mykola therefore on the last question in view of the fact that time, as always, coincides faster than desired, what challenges will now face the developers of armored vehicles, what will it now be more protected from anti-tank means or sparring ammunition, what will now be the main challenge for designers. what do you think? i think that the problem will be solved align comprehensively why because barrage munitions will now be developed by absolutely all countries that have the technological capabilities for this, and the direction of development of barrage munitions will be such that it is necessary to create e-e warheads that
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will be able to hit armor protection, including with dynamic protection, explosive and non-explosive there is no difference, that is, to hit first , the elements of dynamic protection, after that , the main armor, and these are probably cumulative funnels of 60-70 mm caliber, but with a focal the distance of the accumulative jet is about one meter or even a letter hit, the truth is that the caliber must be at least 150 mm. so , here, too, the designer will have to find a middle ground or create means against air defense that will work to protect each armored object individually or to create a powerful organizational structure that will cover certain
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divisions within the whole division of protective ammunition and then there is still time for one question, your company is engaged in the development of simulators for various types of equipment weapons, and so, against the background of the appearance of a significant number of western models of weapons technology, do you already have proposals for the creation of simulators specifically for western technology? the capabilities of our companies. unfortunately, the ministry of defense has not faced such problems yet . although inquiries are already coming from the brigades. do you have them?
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