[000:00:00;00] everyone and we must come out of this understanding two things: firstly, we still don't know the end of this story, and secondly, unfortunately, this concern is so much that here emotionally, a simple question arose: where are the african peacekeepers, where is the brazilian president, where are the african peacekeepers, they still have a group there wagner in africa they know them personally with the representatives of prigozhin with a personal acquaintance in these countries , so where are you?

girls together with the ex, as i know, i will leave the russian voiceover and the voiceover, and it means that these eyes are all beautiful, this cycle is for ukraine, so that ukraine capitulates, you apply everything , well, that is, it is so. excuse the emotions, but what is happening in russia, of course, in my opinion, this is not the final story yet this is the beginning of such bursts of external processes that are simmering inside them, but i emphasize once again that we do not fully understand the extent to which these or other problems have reached their peak, why this happened now because russia is inside the police regime has weakened now its main goal is the invasion of places on the territory of ukraine putin did this stupid thing and as a result weakened the protection of the police state there that's all and it's actually two groups fighting, say the hawks heads yes well two groups

of hawks are fighting for power and how much does this show i can tell you about the changes in russia. i will only tell you about the change if i see a national movement in the same yakutia that declared its sovereignty in 1991. do you remember, sir, in italy that the parade of sovereignties was not only started by the russians in the end, the russians were the first to declare independence, so i declared the tatars emphasized, that is, if i see these manifestations in this situation, then i can say that something is really happening there, like the processes of the soviet union, so far it is different in belarus home wrote that biden discussed the situation in russia with macron's scholz tasunak, they confirmed their unwavering support for ukraine and valery, western leaders could now somehow use the situation of putin's weakening and put pressure on him

to end the russian-ukrainian war and to force him to sit down at the negotiating table well, we are in a very dynamic changing environment, we don't know what they don't know to the end what will happen tomorrow in moscow and i think that it is worth at least thinking now about control over the storage of tactical nuclear weapons because in fact here the situation is like this, the government that seemed so consolidated and confident is waging war, and now it can be seen how it all comes together and the question arises how to ensure, well, in the west, the question arises how to ensure control over the weapons of mass destruction that they have after the soviet union russia was allowed to keep the disintegration, that's why i think that they are talking about

it first of all, and the second thing is, of course, in this situation. well, i think that tomorrow there will be such appeals to both sides of the civil war in russia, or whatever they call it, peace does not allow tolerance escalation, that is, adhere to the rules. well, in general, try to be tolerant . well, how did we appeal to putin in ukraine ? in the end, after a year, we realized that there were very few appeals, so if we do not take advantage of this situation, i believe that this the episode is more important. these are really the criminal actions of putin lavrovy, who is confused and is now running here and there, that is, other criminals too, well, the same criminals who are beautiful, what putin and they should look for there, i was talking about intermediaries, but there they have

intermediaries, they are thieves in law in russia who are between with them, one mafia can mediate something, another mafia, and we need to understand that russia's war against ukraine is still continuing, this is a key threat, not what is happening in russia now, well, on the other hand, there is such a rather important question as to how much in principle, now it can be considered that political processes in russia can take place in the locales of 1991, the locales of national processes. or maybe the real political struggle in russia is a struggle between this state and this new one. finally, russia has experienced much more serious 3: 7 than the collapse of the soviet union when they were fighting against the state apparatus in the time of ivan the terrible or in the time of peter the great, do you remember this famous picture of the morning of the rifle execution

when peter looks at the destroyed riflemen he defeated these sagittarius, they were ordinary in essence wagnerians, only of a different type, with the help of regular troops , but not even his own, but the ukrainian troops of hetman ivan mazepa well, here are beautiful examples of what is happening, that's why putin got confused, he ran, you see, call and e- there is such an ego in kazakhstan, lukashenko in belarus, give it, well, in fact, he wants to be given support, that is, you understand, he does not withdraw troops from ukraine, he does not return even there parts that could really counteract the protection of moscow. he asks help from the outside, that is, he still thinks that he will be able to sit on the two sisters' chairs and conduct an experiment or war

externally and defend himself internally . in many ways, i remember those times, i remember how the army actually sat in the barracks and watched, uh, this performance swan lake, that is, a lot depends on how the real players will play in this situation, that is, who rearranges all these chess pieces in russia pieces on a chessboard that is, everything can happen. it can be that they will play chapaev and order will be there for a long time, but they can simply make a coup , as it happened in the end in the 17th year. that is, it was a real coup that was carried out and the bolsheviks seized power without having any huge

advantages, so that russia has gone through all the riots in its history, and it is rather at 91.17 and who can really help putin , after all, kai, whom you just mentioned as an ally in the dkb, said that these are internal problems of russia, that is, he does not agree to help , putin also called the leader of uzbekistan also as if there is no answer and he also allegedly spoke with erdoğan just as the russian media wrote that istanbul is ready to help russia, but we also do not know how true this is about eduan. do you think he will help russia or is it too much? it is dangerous for him to worsen relations with the west. on the one hand, the statement of the president of turkey that no one should take advantage of this situation , listen, why? well, this is cynical towards ukrainians, what does it mean not to take advantage of this situation, erdogan should tell putin to take away

your troops from ukraine and let them defend there. you have 300,000 standing, the wagner institute is not a threat to such troops, but it is convenient , of course, those who remained there, yes, they are afraid that they will not hold back, so i think that this approach annoys me a peacemaker and on the one hand and on the other hand, no one should take advantage of this statement, that is, you should not just take advantage of it, you should just ask putin the question right now . you control your country in general . you control the situation. there are cups of criminal gangs of criminal groups released all of them from prison now you are running away so he needs to ask questions and china needs to ask questions what are you, volodya , who are you in general? are you still in charge of the district? have you already

lost everything, that is, listen, psyplen, well, it 's not this one the episode showed that it is all a circle on clay stands. that is, it is all clear, but here it is not included in any way , people are not included in these processes, that is , a police state, a dictatorship and a monopoly or a session do not participate. there is no civil society in russia and great in this the problems of such countries because coups are being staged in them, and in front of whom does ertygan want in general, it is not semyon mogilevich. he cannot be an intermediary between criminality, one criminality, and another.

the question should not be asked in the right way, now he needs to hit the nail on the head . they simply split into two camps, and they didn’t even split according to departments, the kgbf, the fsb, or counter-intelligence, just against the e military. there are just several different groups. well, they are now fighting for power, and their people are in all structures, so what apparently, the russians are already traditionally just watching parties , they no longer react in any way, but in the given conditions, we have to ask the question, for example, why is the question not being asked right now, the russian occupiers are standing at the nuclear facility of ukraine, the zaporizhzhia station

, who is giving the commands, now who and who they are ordered to detonate whether they have planted explosives or not, this is alarming, and i said about such a scenario earlier that a situation may arise when they themselves will not fully control all their e-e movements, and this chaos is a certain threat, but this chaos should not be equated with the account of putin’s support, on the contrary, it is necessary, the ideal option, for all the criminal authorities to leave the scene, whether they are no longer authorities, and politicians come to power, but to what extent is this possible in russia? i doubt it very much, but you are talking about the fact that russian society is not participates in these events, but they are events of thousands of seventeenth year, she did not participate in at least in november 17th, when the bolsheviks came to power, people were witnesses, and in the 91st year, at the balls, a group of people

who went to the white house really and which was not able to disperse the army, but for the most part the rest of russia was also silent, sat to herself and watched tv. there were none in the regions except st. petersburg . well, not quite like that. you remember the year 1991, and that's what we say nationally certain uh, i have on mind at the moment point that sir valeria, we know the people who took part in political events by the back of our fingers. by the way, one of them was vladimir putin, he was at a rally in st. petersburg. here he was a representative of an active part of society , but such people could simply be listed. well, everything is fine if you look at the events further even all these speeches under the white house, well, the government . yes, according to the government building, it's still not dozens of people, and the tanks were also very severe

, crushing peaceful muscovites. history simply turns orange and after all there were more than a dozen people there, some of them paid for it with their lives, those people who stopped the tanks, several famous names, and after that, that's why there was no such civil movement, now it's unlikely will it be even in this dimension, because the situation is much well, russia has already been cleaned so much from an active civic position that they will simply be observed here, but for the wagnerites well, that's what we call pretty jerks , by the way, i want to see in the end real people from this camp, they will appear very quickly, er, i think in the next few days, and by the way, about nuclear weapons, we heard a statement that one of prigozhyn utkin's closest associates seems to have planned

an operation to capture nuclear storage facilities, so the wagnerians are aiming for this. imagine what is president biden's advisor sullivan and you say you know he is going to seize a nuclear storage facility, mr. president, what should you do in such a situation that you would advise the president of the united states when you would have a dossier on this duck on a plan to seize nuclear storage facilities which was handed over to you by the central intelligence management of satellites and pictures of where the wagner convoys are moving, and here along this route a nuclear storage facility is drawn , what did you do, such a situation has already happened, and you know when the group was going there in belgorod, there is an emergency storage facility evacuated, in principle, here the line is between washington and moscow and in moscow, i think washington is still being assured that everything is under control. so, to be honest, i

don't even think that this is the main threat, and i think that it is a hypertrophied one the approach that now something will get to the rebels, nuclear weapons. i think that it will be promoted on the contrary in order to continue blackmailing ukraine, that is , other realities that everything will be solved by any non-nuclear weapons , everything will be solved simply by a column of cars and readiness the guards there who swore an oath to putin . well, the leader of their readiness to die for putin. i am not sure that there are many people in moscow who are ready to die for putin. well, putin looked confident to you. when he made this statement to citizens in the morning, it is still an unprecedented story when he is forced to address the citizens in connection with the mutiny of his own country well, i would say when it was necessary the last time was and

when there were chechen wars for sure but even then he, well, i don't know bezslannordoz then he didn't either turned to me, it seems to me well then he looked terrible and in fact the years later testify to his confusion. that is, it is obvious when he was like that, i don't even remember when he was like that , that is, i think that there are people playing against him who are very knowledgeable about the situation and are confident that i am sure that it is these people who are also the screenwriters of this whole story, yes, that and in the grand scheme of things, in the grand scheme of things, why can't we talk about the repetition of some such historical events, transitions, uh, precisely

because of that well, in the year 91 or thereabouts, the events in other countries of the former ussr, because there are serious weapons used by the insurgents, that is, these are tanks, these are ppu systems - these are such things that those who spoke in the opposition there never had, that is, this is the specifics of today's moment, mr. valeriu we thank you very much for joining our forum valeriy chaly diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the usa during 2015-19 was in touch with us and we are moving on to our next guest , the secretary general of the taiwanese parliamentary commission on human rights is in touch with us good evening thank you very much thank you for what invited, so let's start with the main foreign policy event of these days. this is the visit

of the secretary of state of the united states to the people's republic of china. what conclusions can be drawn for taiwan from this visit ? rather that these are strengthened, we have to understand that more actually read the kaskai and high followers, because it was really important to focus on how the future relations between china and the usa will unfold, it is clear that there are no such agreements reached

, they spent many hours negotiating, it was actually still intact the critic then privately met with blinkin and from the same day, when blinkin returned to the usa, he called everyone a zempin a dictator . that is, we understand that the usa is now demonstrating its strength against china. of course, i am sure that ukraine was on the agenda, and there was an opportunity to hear the rhetoric of china's opinion regarding ukraine, and we also understand that the issue of yes, ivan, we know what support they say that they do not support

taiwan's independence, but they do not consider taiwan as an internal issue the politics of china, that is, it is not about the status quo, but i want to say something, i think that a powerful message was sent to everyone , which is an auxiliary factor for peace to remain in taiwan, and if this message was is strong enough for putin, this is a very big achievement china -us relations in terms of the fact that xi jinping was called a dictator what do you think is part

of the message ? will dare to invade taiwan, and accordingly, there will be terrible consequences, that is, the usa has moved to such a position when it is necessary to speak clearly and without terms to dictators. please tell me how much in principle you do you agree with the opinion of some american republicans who say that if we now give weapons to ukraine, we will not be able to give them to taiwan if china tries to resolve the taiwan issue by military means, but they are already doing it , they are already providing high-tech

military and the achievements of ivan and taiwan , also with the help of taiwan with the help of the usa , we have already switched to military tracks, we can say that there is already a strong financial support for the defense sector and ivany, and in fact, now we are already preparing and the usa is already helping us and this a strong message for the people of taiwan for what is supported by us and the americans. if putin is allowed to keep crimea, it will be a signal to other aggressors, in particular, it is about the situation around taiwan, former nato secretary general anders ras stated this. what do you think of these two parallels? conducted or not well, i think that it is possible to draw such a parallel. i

would like to use this opportunity to say that there is nothing to say. they express their solidarity with ukraine and we want to actually do everything we can in order to form closer relations with ukrainians and you help ukraine to stand up and i am sure that such clear messages should be sent to people like putin - they are crazy people and also i think that ukrainians can really be united together with us together with other partners and from the point from the point of view of taiwan, the strengthening of relations between the usa and ivaniv also sends a clear message to the ukrainians that democracy is clinging to the masses, they are strong and they do not give up, and that is why i want to assure the ukrainians

that you and i, the taiwanese, are steadfast, say this if talking about the future, the elections in taiwan are now talking about the fact that china can interfere in these elections, and how to influence our local elections and one of the main e-e platforms. if you actually want to vote for a beijing political party, then there is there is less chance that there will be a war, but the problem is that china has already lost trust and ivantsi, because we can see it in hong kong and tibet. voice

about the chinese party, call the kyiv party, perhaps the camps will do so, but i want to say that most taiwanese do not share this opinion, and most taiwanese believe that we are truly inspired by the ukrainian people and we understand that we need to prepare for war, so that if we want peace, we want we have to prepare for war and how and in what way what means will taiwan , let's say, try to protect itself from china's interference in the elections e-e it is a powerful military state and we have a certain e blessing thanks to e-e straits that we separated from the mainland, and therefore it will not be so easy for china to invade, in contrast to

the way russia invaded ukraine, of course , it helps the taiwanese to make a choice, in particular , the ukrainian city, we must invest in defense, and we must also strengthen our relations, for example, with japan with united states and they help us strengthen our military potential and when we look and i can't say that our situation is the same as in ukraine no but the geographical position really helps us and also the fact that the courage that we saw in the ukrainians also helps us. and we can say that all the calls to his e-mail are much more obvious than

what was the case with putin. keep the peace and tell me, do you imagine any prospects for the democratization of the people's republic of china itself , how much can we count on it in the future? my life is actually the process of democratization of china and i was actually in exile for two 34 years, but during this time my determination hardened, my hope that democracy in china is strong, because i know that the chinese really want democracy, you do not

like them the situation in which they live, of course, and the communist party is good at brainwashing with its propaganda, but i think that those people who are democrats do not have the opportunity to express themselves like that now, but if uh, now i understand when i live in taiwan, i taiwan is not from i want to say that i really want to give you 100% support in ukraine now and i want to tell my friends who are watching us now that we really want democracy and i really sincerely believe that such a time will come when we will see much a more democratic world, and in particular in russia as well. thank you very much. thank you. the general secretary of the ivano-frankivsk parliamentary commission on human rights was with us in connection with the latest news

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