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ukraine special operations center and the sbu engrave your name on the pages of victory we continue the program of the saturday political club vitaly portnikov so we start the hotter topic of what is happening in russia , by the way, how would you characterize this, mr. vitaly, a coup d'état, a military coup a coup or the beginning of a civil war, you know, i wouldn't characterize it in any way , a coup d'état, not as a war period, because there is no coup so far. and i tried a putsch so to speak. and i would not characterize those as the beginning of a civil war, because a civil war usually occurs when citizens take part in it, and not as absolutely precisely as we already defined it at the beginning of our conversation, e.e. criminal groups that fight among themselves, but for by and large, this is very typical for russia, the history of russian rulers, and this is the essence of their power, and this power, uh, it did not

appear by itself, it is moscow, the power of the moscow principality, and this power of the moscow principality, it is always as it were to say eh always relied on the traditions of the golden horde, we always saw how good it is when there are many different eh units fighting among themselves and how important it is that these units support the power of the first person of the khan and the whole history of the golden horde is a big account this history of struggle between such groups of influence are too big, i will tell you more that europe was saved by this struggle, when the horde army was already there, you could say at the gates of western europe, khan died, everyone had to return to korltai, it was not possible in this don't participate because if you don't take something, you just lose, they can

just kill you later, and they just left europe . they were calm and never came back to such a distance again. it was the only chance. imagine that if i hadn't died, now i would have such a political culture as uh in moscow before lisbon could have jokes jokes but if we talk about russia itself, uh, the discoverer of this system of deterrence by creating a separate army was ivan the terrible, i once even wrote such a text about it the russian state is built on what is optically different from the system? it is irregular, there is a regular army, there are regular special services, and suddenly some people appear. it is not known who they are, but they enjoy the special trust of the guests, namely malyuta skratov , who is said to have strangled the metropolitan of moscow with his own hands. this is like a sledgehammer. this

was a person, it is absolutely unknown where she came from. but ivan the terrible expanded this riverside saying that they are the territory of the oprichniks, it is the territory of the state, what is important is that he allowed the oprichniks to rob and destroy territories outside the borders as if it were a foreign territory, that's what we were saying oh, how can the russians bomb voronezh by the way, they are bombing just today this proverb became a reality, they bombed voronezh from airplanes, you can imagine, but this is the feeling that you can treat your own compatriots like to foreigners in the medieval sense, the word foreigners is simple and rob rape destroy simply because you are just a criminal in the service of the monarch it was a huge tradition what happened to ivan

the terrible he destroyed the reason for this because she began to interfere with his relations with the state, then peter i, who fought with the shooters, the shooters were militia, it was not an army, it was a militia that always demanded for itself special privileges of the free, punished everyone , destroyed them, i already mentioned this where we see analogs of this in the east in the ottoman empire, the janissaries, the sultan destroys the janissaries, and before that the janissaries put the sultans whom they like, and only by destroying this medieval janissary system, turkey becomes a more or less modern state in the west , all this was eliminated much earlier than only the state becomes totalitarian, i.e. medieval and not european in terms of values, this construction immediately arises adolf hitler, who makes a decision

that it is necessary to destroy the stormtroopers, ann is old , his closest associate of the bandit, rem , the criminal, how the stormtroopers beautified him, which provided the opportunity, i would say, by the forceful victory of the national socialist workers parties of germany, they rob, they rape , they create dens, they live like this , you know, the life of a criminal, because the genes in love of some stormtroopers and others are in common robberies kristallnacht against the jews or berlin was organized precisely by these people and here suddenly hitler realizes that if he continues to cooperate with them, he will not be able to get support from the german army , he is called the führer, if you are with them, you did not know how we can be serious about some of your political plans when

you hope for the support of a group of criminals and hitler makes a decision to liquidate them , which results in a regime in which the ss become the center of decision-making, i.e. , in essence, the kgb, i.e., in essence, the fsb as soon as you destroy rem, you give the opportunity not to the army to strengthen, but is it a cyst, now we see such a hitler , the inside out of this hitler, i mean putin, he has a state in which the fsb runs the fsb effectively restrains the army, the generals are heavily recruited agents of this special service and those who are not recruited, these people are just afraid of the chekists, putin himself, or is he suddenly in this system because he feels bigger than the average, or is the dictator deciding to let

the so-called private military company cross the line so that she fulfills his dirtiest whims and at the same time does not soil the clean flag of the federal security service of the russian federation or the main intelligence agency of the ministry of defense of russia with her dirty paws, but yesterday we saw an interesting thing that we did not know about, we would not have found out about it if -e not pooch in pregoshena appears on the screen lieutenant general alekseev, deputy chief of the main intelligence directorate of the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation , the famous game, which they always said was not it has nothing to do with the name you are. this is a private company, it is a consonant. and he says, brothers, you and i performed joint tasks . i am proud of our shared experience, so

after all, you were together, so after all, these people acted under the cover of the federal security service and the main intelligence manifestations or maybe even more, the main intelligence agency itself, maybe putin commissioned to be the curators of these bandits precisely the military jammer, which are alternatives to the fsb officers. well , then it is clear why the fsb officers wanted so to get rid of the beauties because they perceived him as an agent of the game ugh and oh-oh-oh the scumbags with the scapegoats were always fighting for their agents, but then he raised the beauties himself, and he, having been a cook and somehow imported , went this way from putin’s chef to cavalier, i will tell you right away. this is also a legend. never once in his life did the handsome man come. he was not a chef. why was he called that? because he arranged for catering caterings caterers catering catering yes for putin

such events, he had a restaurant, a better restaurant in st. petersburg, he eats owned it not conventionally, there is such a story, you know this film, a famous french comedy, the restaurant of mr. septim despasim receives the most serious guests of the city, and the dead walk and he is there where he prepares the dishes. he er organizes the process , but he was not the head of the pvc. he was the owner of the restaurant. putin hosted george bush there. putin, the right-wing herald, celebrated his birthday there. and why is that because putin is part of the st. petersburg mafia and prigozhin is part of the st. petersburg mafia, and if you want, take it easy to celebrate a birthday in a restaurant or, on the contrary, to give your guest something to drink in order to get something

from him or to be frank with him, this does not apply to george bush. i think that the president of the united states could provide for himself in such a place. but for many other people, you need a person who will be what you will trust prigozhin , first he became such a production organizer for putin , then he was not quite a pc either, he was the owner of the troll factory, do you remember that was also a huge part of the history of the troll factory that is, people who demonstrated how it is possible to change the information nature of this or that political event at the expense of huge and information technologies. and by the way, this was not just a troll factory that participated in russia's pro-russian propaganda struggle against ukraine , it was the same angelica troll factory that interfered in the presidential the elections in the united states are under sanctions

, that is why he organized the streams of compromising materials on hillary clint, so that there is no need to turn him into a waiter, this is such a huge part of the russian propaganda struggle then pvk what is pvk this means that the main intelligence department of the general staff of general rykseev is the rubber of the tour in africa, this rubber is aware that certain regimes feel unstable, these regimes can pay for stability with gold , but the grushniks themselves cannot ensure this stability without military force the choice is either you send the military there, but this is a real conflict with france based on the macron model and a demonstrative measure. and you don’t want this

conflict, you want to knock them out by way of more i would said the hidden combination and then you think that you can create a brigade of mercenaries so as not to involve ani grushniks in ani army and by the way the west did it many times before we simply forgot about it because the defense refused it the famous french mercenary was a dinar who did it several times military coups on the comoros islands, he was in fact the head of state, here is the current head of the comoros islands, who has now come to kyiv and moscow, he seems to me to be a relative of the same president. if i am not i'm wrong, who was the dinar, he was twice the president of the comoros islands, and he was actually the ruler of the territory , and these mercenaries were called soldiers of fate, they wandered around africa all the time and carried out the orders of the customs authorities of authoritarian regimes, in the end, the west realized that this unproductively, he destroyed it all and he began

to tell african leaders that if you want our money, you should hold alternative elections, build democracy, allow your compatriots to govern states, if i am the president of the central african republic of the tuaders i don't want this and the french can only give me a military contingent to maintain order and fight terrorists but not to strengthen my power , so who should i turn to putin and as soon as wagner appeared and it became clear what was going on whom to turn to immediately resumed what we in africa have not seen since the mid-90s of the last century, military coups and these military juntas that began to randomly pass from vlad to power, then small groups in faso, they suddenly all started to focus on wagner on russia is serious. and i will tell you more, if there were no prigozhin, the russian economy began to look completely different because

the gold and currency reserves in sudan , in the central african republic, in small wagner shops, gold is washed and this gold goes into the pockets of prigozhin, into the pockets of putin and to the central bank of the russian federation. one criminal group that we cannot forget is the group of elvira on the violins , the central bank of the russian federation. this bank basically uses the looted bagners with this gold to provide the stability of the russian ruble, and the beautiful woman will put putin in prison someday, they will beat her, and elvira will run the central bank, honestly and secretly, she herself , in fact, her little hand is in the blood of african citizens, citizens of african countries, which wagnerites were killed, what to establish control over these deposits, there are also such together with uh , all of them, the entire board of the central bank of the russian federation, the defendant must sit on the bench, let there be excuses, she will say that she is not at fault, but she must be responsible for such

things uhu and here imagine this situation when prigozhin begins to use it not only in africa, but in all of syria, he is also with general alekseev's collaborator, why because you do not establish control over the oil fields, the oil is a percentage of the protection for the protection of the oil fields, where in the basket is brought in putin's pocket and to the budget of the russian federation, that's how they get the economy. of course, they get the economy through criminal actions. the chef made a gang of mercenaries for himself. no, this is such a structure, but this, but at the same time, this structure is not included in any other structure . the ministry of defense of the fsb, so that i can say that putin hitler, on the contrary, he had a clear structure to which he compared such a completely unmanaged organization, the day came when the army generals, and i think the generals from lubyanka, came to him and said volodymyr ivanovich and if he wanted he could look like and how do you

give them orders and if they ignore our orders and if what will happen to you and who they will be ordered, they will seize power the day after your death, look at them well, putin agrees that it is necessary to create a single vertical, and this begins the eternal conflict of the sovereign, ivan the terrible's henchman, with the painted leatherette of peter the first , behind hitler's shooters, we see the sultan with the janissaries, so some news so far, a message has appeared in lukashenka's press service that, in agreement with putin , he held talks with prigozhyn during the day and allegedly prigozhyn accepted lukashenka's proposal to end the movement and members of wagner's communist party the territory of russia, they reached an acceptable option. however, prigozhin has already denied this information and wrote that there were no negotiations , and no, but they did not lead to anything, they were

useless. and why is lukashenka 's press service lying? in fact, deathstroke because putin announced in his speech that he is a traitor, so if prigozhin does not win now, he will be in prison at the very least, putin i think that putin, we now understand why putin called lukashenko that's how he was, and he was looking for a person among them who could deceive the announcement. i think that lukashenko asked the parishioner yevhen said . well, you understand that you can't against such a machination as putin, against the entire russian state, against the entire russian army, listen to you so much money, you can have such a wonderful life

, you have a position in africa, why are you destroying everything with your own hands? belarusians are just a dream, you know, you will take care of yourself in peace in africa, you will take care of yourself in peace, siri , i didn’t let anyone insult you with the word lukashenka, you believe, how do you know i am such a person, if i give my word, i will never break it i don’t have a home, said sasha, go anyway, well, thank you very much, mr. president, yes, and this is absolutely the same story. putin needs to buy time , because he needs to understand which security forces are ready to fight, and which ones will not carry out his orders in order to protect against wagner, because we perfectly understand what if wagner suddenly

will reach moscow and take control of the russian capital, it does not matter where putin is at this moment and where he will give orders, putin's regime is self-destructing before our eyes and he needs, firstly , to minimize the territory captured by wagner, and secondly, to prevent dissidents from entering moscow and lukashenko is just biding his time, he acts like a puppet in putin's hands, he knows perfectly well what he is doing, and it is obvious that prigozhin is not the kind of person who will believe lukashenko and the whole company. he knows what awaits him. well of course, he thinks that this is a completely different

story . by the way, lukashenka is not one of the negotiators. the government was the deputy minister of defense, he was the governor of the tula region, and this person is also currently meeting with a friend and trying to agree on something with him. although he does not hold any real positions, let's listen putin's address excerpt from

his appeal this morning, so something didn't work out for us, that is, we see, but you already told mr. vitaly that well, he was so confused , let's listen now, we won't let this happen again, and we will protect our people and our statehood from all kinds of reasons, including internal betrayal and what we faced was precisely treachery, unfaithful ambitions and personal interests led to treason, to treason, to treason and to our country and our people, and to the cause for which, alongside god, our other units and units fought and died, and commanders of the wagner group, our president volodymyr zelensky reacted to everything that is happening in russia in his evening address and said something today the world saw that the masters of russia do not control

anything at all nothing just complete chaos let 's listen dear ukrainians i wish health to all people of the world today is the day when exactly there are not thousands and leadership is definitely needed , today the world saw that the masters of russia do not control anything at all, nothing, just complete chaos, a complete lack of any predictability, and this is on russian territory which is loaded with weapons, we all remember how in the 21st year the leader of russia threatened the world , he had some ultimatums, some strength, he tried to show some strength, the 22nd year showed that he confused confused with the power of his illusion and the lies they feed him there in the kremlin is capable of resorting to any terror, they are capable of resorting to any tourism, but

they cannot ensure the percentage of necessary control, and they are the real problem, mr. vitaly. well, in fact, we also see a confused putin, despite what he says there it's clear that he can't control the situation, but i'm wondering in which prigozhin puts the presidential chair occupied. i think that for now he's aiming to do everything possible to remove the minister of defense of the russian federation, this is very important the moment that is connected with his first price, by the way, now prigozhin has allegedly announced that we are turning our columns and going in the opposite direction, this is the latest news

that has become now as you can see, it is the first almost on all information resources, but it appears the question is generally true, the time has come, now the moment has come when blood can be spilled, maybe, understanding all the responsibility for the fact that russian blood will be spilled from one of the sides, we turn around our columns and go in the opposite direction o-o-o field camps according to with a plan yes, there is such news before this, i will remind you that there was a report that prigozhyn did not confirm the agreement, it is difficult to understand where the truth is now. well, if it is real, here is another statement, did vk wagner want to disband we went through the court in a day and traveled 200 km to moscow, we did not spend a single drop of blood of our fighters now at the moment when blood can be spilled, so we understand all

the responsibility for what can be against such a thing from one side. and in this situation, dyumin can replace shoigu, it can be the result but we don't know, it can all be beautiful words of prigozhina about the spilled russian blood oh , it can be question so then the question arises. if putin had just called him a traitor, now they were going to arrest him and kill

him. well, you see, it is very difficult for us to work with the material when we see all the changes in the situation literally during the broadcast, this is a huge problem . and the most important thing is how we um, can we trust any information when on the one hand, i come and say that he did not accept any of lukashenka's offers, and on the other hand, he says that we are not turning the tables or telling the truth, prigozhin, that too, of course, of course may be many but interesting if this is true and he really agreed there either with lukashenka or with dyumin and is deploying troops, what will putin say tomorrow , he will really come out and say, you know, you forgive the real hero of russia yevgeny prigozhin, i signed the decree when

naming the hero of russia, it is idiotically true, that is, if later kept silent kept silent he lived could keep silent well until tonight and everyone is saying and why is putin silent and why is putin silent and now everyone understands why from this i will teach that he solved the problem and now it means he declared the beauty an enemy in the morning in the evening of the people, prigozhin became a friend of the people, and somehow, if they forgive him, it's very strange , it's such a thing . do you know who does prigozhyn to putin? for now well, we have to wait another 15 minutes, we still have time, the program is running and

i will not be surprised that there will be a change in the situation, the problem is that this is a statement that appeared in the e-e telegram channel, the press service is beautiful and it is now being referred to are referred to almost all sources are unclear absolutely so that those at times, the armed forces of ukraine launched a counteroffensive. now i will tell you exactly where in several directions at the same time, in the directions of the nut-flowering bachmut, the bogdanivka, the berry mite, the curyumivka , there is an advance forward. may end literally right now however , we were able to use it and it is very good