[000:00:00;00] worry in detail about the fact that he will be physically removed along with wagner's remains and his bank, realizing that he simply has nothing to lose, but it was more likely a story of indirect changes in russia, not about some well-thought-out coup d'état or point there or with some systematic results, it was just vlad demonstrating the abilities of a handsome man, and in this way he managed to live a little longer . how well did he manage to do it? well, this is a rhetorical question now , allegedly because of these so-called well, what are they already the third minsk agreements, let's say which ones putin went to, to what extent lukashenko will be able to guarantee the safety of prigozhin, well, this is a very big question, but from the point of view of such a main key result of all these events , it is that everyone really saw that, first of all , the russian state is absolutely incapable and the russian power bloc is absolutely incompetent, starting with the ministry of defense and ending with the russian special services, in

principle, all of them. so this can really trigger quite unpredictable processes inside of this russian power bloc , primarily now of the russian state, of the russian elites in general, mr. taras, do you seriously think that lukashenko could enter into any negotiations, that he is subject enough to convince prigozhin of something and do it on behalf of putin? and you know if we say about some personal moments, yes. that is, because we understand right away, this is not about what kind of politics it is about, it is not about the change of the regime in russia , so it is simply about the fact that ah, obviously , lukashenko could have asked putin not to be killed the beauty immediately and at this level i think that there is an understanding between them and really here there is a mutual influence, that is, on e to solve such issues, well, you know , mafia and criminal ones. i think that

everything is fine with them, that is, well, in they have influence in both directions, if it was a political question, if it were a question that concerns some global or systemic things in russian politics, internal or external . well, it is clear that here lukashenko is completely not a subject, he is completely subordinate to the will of the russian leader, but well, it doesn't mean that lukashenko can't compensate for his incapacity to attack, that's political and not subjectivity er subjectivity for such an ability is not on a personal level because that's how it looks now that uh lukashenko decided to save russia from a coup d'état well lukashenko not putin is the president of the russian federation, namely lukashenko, because that is why this is not a very good situation for the russian leader , and obviously this is also the new reality that putin will have to deal with in the future, what fate do you think awaits that his and gerasimova really, they can be more precise, their positions can, and maybe they

themselves can be under question eh, since information appears about eh, what his successors may appear, what is the name of such a gentleman dyumina oleksiy dyumin this is a russian politician, a military leader and a close associate of president putin , former deputy minister of defense, the current governor of the tula region, there was once something in putin's guard, he allegedly decided what this night was and whether it was really is able to solve something and is able to replace him in his position well, we understand that in the eyes of the vertical er-e of strict control that he later built in his country a-and well, the question of the surname of a specific minister of defense does not solve absolutely anything, that is, for example, what we have already seen that ah well, the position of the minister of defense and even in the end the position of the chief of the general staff, they are absolutely well

, they did not influence and they are completely irrelevant, yes , in the russian model of management, that is, we understand that the decision management center is one a person who is constantly sitting in a bunker yes, and on remote tv, they periodically show him about these moves , yes, the decision maybe so, but the planning of the operation, the overall control of all the troops is handled by mr. gerasimov, and here i will allow myself to rely on extremely the authoritative opinion of our commander-in-chief of the armed forces, valery zaluzhny. he emphasizes that this person is smart, cunning, and in a military sense, in terms of value , she is quite interesting, what will happen to him, of course, i absolutely support mr. indeed, gerasim, compared to all other generals and the military leadership of the russian federation, he can be considered an intellectual , no matter how funny it sounds, but compare him with a cheesemaker, for example, which i read in terms of composition. well, we understand and in whose favor is this

comparison there will be, and in fact, of such an internal organization, of course, we, as the general staff of the ministry of defense, have a certain autonomy, but we understand that, if strategically, this autonomy ends where it begins. let's say it's the personal will of the russian president. well, we saw in the end what this war turned into. and it became like this in many ways thanks to the fact that, well, if the general staff of the ministry of defense was there, yes, to a certain extent, they were all busy with absolutely the wrong thing. what were they supposed to be busy with? this is partly about the main struggle that we have already talked about today, and partly about the budget funds, as they say, but on the other hand, we understand that this is all putin's micromanagement , which is always there. well, there was information that he is there almost there at the level of brigades-brigades at the level of battalions of groups. if

he was in charge , he would give out instructions there , but in the end. in that strategically, the replacement of the current leadership of the ministry of defense and the general staff will actually change very little, and politically, from a political point of view, in a political sense , it seems to me that they will not be replaced so far, because well in the end, everyone understands, and the russian military and political leadership too, that the situation for the russians at the front will get worse the further it goes, and it seems to me that these resignations can ultimately save them until the moment when it will be necessary to hang it all on someone and then, gerasimo, you will remember everything, not only the beauty, but he will remember, in principle, they will remember everything that happened at the front, that is why it seems to me that the question here is a slightly delayed resignation, it may be, or it may not be the same. it

there may be something related to well, let's say so, their health there or their summer well-being. this is also an option in modern russia that is absolutely realistic. well, let's summarize the whole story. is what we have seen in the last two days really a symptom of irreversible processes in the russian federation they have already begun and the state no longer has a monopoly on violence. it is clear that there is no such legal field on which one could rely . this doesn't exist. does this mean that the russian federation has embarked on the path of self-destruction, if it didn't sound a little so optimistic and pathetic , well, in fact , it is, and it is. we understand that all these processes began again , long before this parishioner campaign, just this campaign, it is very strong actualized and very, very vividly showed, as it were, the entire

impotence of the russian state of their power bloc, and ultimately the lack of a system of the state system as such because, in principle, we understand that during the last for at least ten years, yes, all state institutions, yes, the status of their systems is not functioning, yes, everything was replaced by putin personally, yes, that is, now well, when in russia they say that putin and russia yes, even without putin , russia is not, in principle, well, you can agree with that therefore that putin replaces everyone, we saw how putin lured their middle committee there, so by canceling all these decisions, so on and so forth, that is, here it is really a systemic crisis - this is a deep system crisis and a way out of this systemic crisis well, it's unlikely that someone like that is adequate it is unlikely that you will find anything in russia , except that during this next year, the putin regime will really start to tighten the screws internally, and they will probably overcome the topic of the union

state and, uh, some such, at this level, try to rebuild this, uh, their internal system, uh in order for the e-e word to begin to imitate some efficiency, but this is definitely it will be just until the next crisis , which will show again, but already in much worse trends for russia. here is the same book , the ability of any russian state institute thank you taras for the analysis. taras shevchenko, an expert on international security of the democratic initiatives foundation , was in touch with us. this reflected the world of jokes with pepper , humor with victory from the creators of the sketch show nashi bez rashi

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yesterday we watched the culmination the campaign of the wagnerites to moscow did not happen and did not happen, i would like to understand in your opinion who pulled this rope on himself, whether putin managed to maintain stability and whether it is possible or possible that prigozhin still got what he was counting on and now we just have to wait and hope i don't know who will survive yesterday or how it will end. this story, like the whole world , was watching the unfolding unfolding of events in russia.

i have not changed my attitude towards anything, and i think that a historic event really took place yesterday for the whole world, which clearly saw what putin and russia are, and for the russians themselves, because yesterday it was demonstrated that this is a rotten regime that cannot support itself. to defend and no one comes to his defense yesterday the public humiliation of putin was shown and it was not for nothing that the american commentator er said that putin er in one night in one day lost that face that he did not try not to show that he has power over all

by russia, he lost it. it was shown that putin does not have such power and that he cannot guarantee the security of his population, and this was during the public humiliation of russia by the russian armed forces, which allowed them to be taken over by bandits and criminals who have large the military experience of capturing the headquarters of the southern southern group of russian troops, and there are russian nuclear weapons in that southern district, and it is a shame for those armed forces that launched it, we saw yesterday how recklessly lying there in the headquarters, prigozhin managed, tried to manage two generals, one of whom is a very important figure

, he is the deputy head of the main administration, that is , the former game, and they tried to persuade him to do something there, prigozhin, but he did not listen to them , what about 150 or 300 according to the observations of the american intelligence vehicles , prigozhin's convoys were moving towards moscow with great speed and no one resisted them. this is also an indicator that russia is a rotten empire that is on the eve of its fall. well, if we talk about the world's reaction to what happened, what is particularly interesting for me personally is the report of colleagues from washington, sorry for the harshness of the journal, that the united states state department has even decided to postpone for a while the planned

introduction of new sanctions against the wagnerites' gold mining business in africa, a meeting jordal usually refers to his own sources, he does not name which ones are indicated in the reports that on tuesday the state department intended to announce additional sanctions regarding the alleged gold business, the wagnerites in africa, but in washington they decided to postpone it for a while, at least to make sure whether or not it would sometimes turn out that the wagnerites and prigozhin himself are a force that can oppose putin . do you think the position of the united states will change after e- is not in the best light. after this story, i am not only putin , but also a handsome man who threw everyone under the meat grinder, a huge number of russians who supported him, and he did not go anywhere, and this is

a complete throw, a complete throw. i can only imagine what there may be repression there now on this matter, so whether or not there will be sanctions, so returning to washington, it means that it is known today that the american intelligence was closely monitoring the actions of prigozhin, and they were held two days before the coup attempt, whatever it was , the briefings were held in officials of the white house were briefed in the senate and in the us congress and the intelligence warned about a possible coup . but unlike the warning about putin's invasion, the intelligence did not announce this because of course and you are right they absolutely quoted and gave an interpretation of e's message that they postponed their measures against wagner's e group because

objectively, in the event of a coup , the military group would easily split up . the west and the allies of ukraine because there is every reason to think that they could stop this war and withdraw the troops from ukraine because wagner was not wagner prigozhyn. the truth because he said that there was no reason nato was not going to invade russia a and e ukraine did not bomb donbas this was a very important testimony and therefore we have every reason to think that there was a conspiracy , a very serious

conspiracy who opposed the roman emperor but was supported by powerful forces, there is such a theory that he was supported by the main intelligence directorate of the general staff and the russian generals and that they stopped this attempt and that some kind of agreement was reached, this is nothing does not mean because the results will still be fatal for putin and for his regime because it is shown that putin can lose and putin does not have full power over his state , such a metaphor was very interesting that already in one american publicist who said that prigozhin drew a target on his back and of course we understand that prigozhin will become a target for putin and putin will make every

attempt to kill him as a traitor and as a very dangerous person but prigozhin also drew a target on putin's back because putin is now he was already internationally decentralized when he received an arrest warrant from the international criminal court in an international plan, but he humiliated his beauty among russians in front of the russians and he is now walking around with a target that he is weak and i am absolutely convinced that this is a process at the beginning the agony of this country is not in vain. kurt, our friend is great and well-known in ukraine. he declared that these events of yesterday are the beginning of the end of the war in ukraine. i think that we will have

such consequences of these events and we will see how far-reaching they are deep as they will not affect the fate of er russia on the fate of the russian-ukrainian war in the end, mr. yury, there is such an opinion that is not very popular in ukraine now that we need to think about our actions now when russia begins to disintegrate because the big closet loudly and falls painfully and these are dangerous processes. and at the same time, there are and quite how do they say such controversial theories about the fact that putin's government when everything more or less well, at least nominally it looks controlled, it may seem like pleasant memories to us when people who come to power come to power -e will be someone like that. i don't know

prigozhin kadyrov or other dark horses. i don't know what you think about this. i'm not saying that. believe me, i'm one of those people who wish putin the worst both as a person and in politics, but but eh don't you think that the prospects are so foggy that very scary things and very scary people can be hidden behind this fog, even more scary uncontrolled than this? you are right and i have at least five options for the end of the war. i personally wrote in to his book which is coming soon will be released in kyiv. there are these options, i won’t tell them now, but absolutely yours and your understanding of the situation fits into these options, but i want to say that we must not forget that prigozhin is from the hated russian establishment

because so that it wouldn’t be there, but does the horse regime eh not consider eh necessary eh to be accepted eh accepted the regime of absolutely recidivist bandits and rapists who are eh militants of this eh company of wagner and that’s why i think that er beauty didn't have a big er chance to gain a foothold and seize power in he probably wanted to use putin in order to increase his weight. but really, we should think about what could happen. i said a long time ago that, god forbid, if the complete disintegration of russia begins, millions of refugees could rush into

ukraine this is also such a ghost before us. we all have to take this into account, and of course i think that the western allies are also thinking about it , and it is not for nothing that they are very careful . terrible or forces well, 10%, maybe there are ultra-nationalists, ultra-radical patriots in russia who will immediately use nuclear weapons against ukraine and turn this war into a nightmare of the third world nuclear war, so we need to think about it and understand it but on the other hand, it is the end of putin

's regime, where there is hope , it gives us hope that maybe some conscious pragmatic people from his entourage will take over the government and come to an agreement. patrosheva, negotiations are underway between american intelligence specialists about the possible consequences of this whole story. hmm, this is not just an uncontrolled war, it is a controlled one. and it is usually under close supervision . the development of western because this could be a very serious development. and this is patrushev. if i am not mistaken , when i was present a few days before the large-scale invasion at this type of recognition of the dpr and lpr, he began to stutter historically and did not know what to answer because obviously understood what this step was leading to, it was him. yes, of course, we do not know all the details

. but uh, there is such data, and the americans say about it that they have moles there to the highest leadership, who bequeath them, they cannot say all this because they are in such a way in this way, the moles will be revealed, but it is clear that there are very serious disputes, and especially now, this process of yesterday will deepen the disputes, you know. i have lived such a metaphor. once again, everyone uses different metaphors, so i allow myself that there is a king in the kremlin, a cracked cannon, such a huge cannon but a crack not unfit for use is the tsar bell, but putin's cast iron tsar will also be split in half because he was split in half yesterday and he is no longer functional in the way everyone is used

to seeing him and i think that these processes will deepen there now. i really hope that that secret negotiations with china, because you see that putin actually backed away from putin yesterday , his closest allies , he said to the kazakhs, this is your internal matter, and iran once stated that it was a shaft of international humiliation for putin. he said that it was an internal matter the case of russia, that is, in fact, he did not find allies in the small international environment to which he appealed and hoped for our help . the reaction is very interesting. i read that you know that china did not make any statement. china only reprinted the statements and all kinds of information of western countries, showing that it is closely monitoring

the development of events in the kremlin and in moscow, but on the other hand , i think that china, which is used to such a huge imperial order on the empire of the sky, looks with horror at the fact that is russia, there is data that serbia and hungary may fall away completely from russia as a result of yesterday's events. well, let's see how turkey turkey is connected economically and touristically with russia. if it wants to make money, then it's another matter, but countries like serbia , hungary will be very interesting to follow their by reaction , we will see what will happen. thank you

, i just want to correct myself. thank you to my colleagues who are already here on the air. of the russian federation, who began to stutter then at the declaration of independence of the dpr and lpr in the russian federation and the recognition of this fact. it was still a cut, i didn't patroshev, thank you. he danced hopak predstaliya we don't remember him he was considered stalin he thought he never suspected him i think he thought he was the most faithful of his who framed him then such a pig so let's hope that the not very near future will bring us more very interesting events, we will follow them. thank you, mr. yuriy, for your words and may god listen to you. yuriy shcherbak, a diplomat, a public figure, a writer, was in touch with us, the former ambassador of ukraine to israel, the united states, and canada, now it's time for news on