[000:00:00;00] and if this message was strong enough for putin, then this is a very big achievement. and what about relations between china and the united states in terms of the fact that xi jinping was called a dictator? do you really think that this was part of the message ? nancy poloxi flew to taiwan, then joe baide repeatedly said that if china dares to invade taiwan , then there will be terrible consequences, that is, the usa has moved to such a position when it is necessary

to speak clearly and without terminology to dictators. tell me please, to what extent do you agree in principle with the opinion of some american republicans who say that if we now give weapons to ukraine, we will not be able to give them to taiwan if china tries to resolve the taiwan question by military means, but they are already doing it, they are already providing high-tech military and achievements and ivan and taiwan already also with the help of taiwan - with the help of the usa we have already switched to military rails, we can say that there is already strong financial support for the defense sector and ivany and in fact now we are already

preparing and the usa is already helping us and this a strong message for the people of taiwan for what is supported by us and the americans. if putin is allowed to keep crimea, it will be a signal to other aggressors, in particular, it is about the situation around taiwan, former nato secretary general anders ras stated this. what do you think of these two parallels? conducted or not, i think that it is possible to draw such a parallel . i would like to say, taking advantage of such an opportunity, what does it mean that they are expressing their solidarity with ukraine and we actually want to do everything we can to form closer relations with ukrainians to help ukraine stand up and i am sure that

such clear messages should be sent to people like putin - they are crazy people and also i think that ukrainians can really be united together with us together with other partners and from the point of view of taiwan really strengthening relations between the usa and ivan, it also sends a clear message to the ukrainians that democracy is clinging to the masses, they are strong and they are not giving up, and that is why i want to assure the ukrainians that you and i, the taiwanese, are steadfast, say this. if we talk about the future the elections in taiwan are now being talked about that china may interfere in these elections. and how can valentine influence our local elections and one of the main e-e platforms. if you actually want to vote for a

beijing political a party, then there is less chance that there will be a war but the problem is that china has already lost trust and ivantsi , because we can see it, and in hong kong you have tigurians. i will park the chinese, i will suggest the kyiv party, perhaps the camps will do so, but i want to say that the majority of taiwanese do not share this opinion, and the majority of taiwanese believe that we are truly inspired by the ukrainian people and we understand that we need to prepare for war, but if we want peace, we want to have to prepare for war and how and in what way what means will taiwan, let's say, try to protect itself

from china's interference in the elections well and military state and we have a certain e blessing thanks to e-e straits that we are separated from the mainland, and therefore it will not be so easy for china to invade, in contrast to how russia invaded ukraine, of course our location helps the taiwanese to make a choice, in particular in transcarpathia, we must invest in defense and also we must strengthen our relations, for example with japan and the united states, and they help us

to strengthen our military potential, and when we look at it, i cannot say that our situation is the same in ukraine, no, but the geographical position really helps us, and also that the fact and courage that we saw in the ukrainians also helps us and we can say that all the calls are on his initiative they are not all quite more obvious than what happened to putin , no one knew until the end whether putin would dare to go to war, but despite all this, we must be ready to defend yourself and to keep the peace , but tell me, do you imagine any prospects for the democratization of the people's republic of china itself, how much can we count on it in the future, i was the leader

of the student community, and i actually from 20 the first year of my life i devoted my life to the process of democratization of china and i was actually in exile for two 34 years, but during this time my determination was hardened, my hope that democracy in china is strong because i know that the chinese really they want democracy, they are not satisfied with the situation in which they live, of course, and the communist party is good at brainwashing with its propaganda, but i think that those people who are democrats, they do not have the opportunity to express themselves like that now, but if uh, now i understand when i live in taiwan i taiwan is not from i want to say that but in fact may you now be supported 100% by ukraine

and i want to tell my friends who are watching us now that we really have we very devotedly want democracy and i really sincerely believe that such a time will come when we will see much a more democratic world, and in particular in russia as well. thank you very much. thank you. the general secretary of the ivanovo parliamentary commission for human rights was with us in connection with the latest news . bridges began to be blown up in the voronezh region, and the armed forces of ukraine began a large-scale counteroffensive hanna malyar, the deputy minister of defense of ukraine, announced that, in particular, in the eastern directions, we will now take a short break, monitor the situation in russia, and just then we will start our conversation with vitaliy portnikov, in a few moments there are

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ukraine the center of special operations and the sbu engrave your name on the pages of victory we continue the program of the saturday political club vitaly portnikov so we start with the hottest topic that is happening in russia, by the way, how would you describe it, mr. vitaly , a coup d'état, a military coup or the beginning of a civil war, you know, i wouldn't characterize it in any way a coup d'état, not as a war period, so far that there is no coup. i tried putschs, so to speak. and i would not characterize those as the beginning of a civil war. civil war usually occurs when citizens participate in it, and not as absolutely for sure, we already defined this at the beginning of our conversation, criminal gangs that fight among themselves, but by and large

, this is very typical for russia, the history of russian rulers, and this is the essence of their power, and this power is not by itself this is moscow, the government of the moscow principality appeared. and this government of the moscow principality has always relied on the traditions of the golden horde. they have always seen how good it is when there are many different er units fighting among themselves and how important it is that these units supported the power of the first person of the khan and the whole history of the golden horde is, by and large, the story of the struggle between such groups of influence , by and large, i will tell you more that europe was saved by this struggle when the horde army was already at the gates of western europe, the khan died, everyone needed to

return at kuroltai it was impossible not to take part in this because if you don't take something you just lose you would maybe just kill them later and they just left europe calm down and never came back to such a distance again this there was only one chance. imagine that if he had not died, now we would have such a political culture as in moscow before lisbon , we could have jokes , jokes. there was ivan the terrible, i once even wrote such a text about this on what in general is the russian state built on a system of transverse what is optically irregular, there is a regular army, there are regular special services and suddenly some people appear, it is not known who they are, but they enjoy special trust

the guests are malyuta skratov, who is said to have strangled the metropolitan of moscow with his own hands, it's like a sledgehammer, you understand, this blacksmith from prigozhyn, and this was a person , it is absolutely unknown where she came from. but ivan the terrible, expanding on this yearning , said that here they are the territory, the transverse is the territory of the state, he what it is important that he allowed oprichniks to rob and destroy territories outside of oprichniks as if it were foreign territory, that's what we were saying oh, how can the russians bomb voronezh by the way, they bomb it just today this proverb became in reality, they bombed voronezh, you can imagine from airplanes, but this is the feeling that you can treat the property of your countrymen as foreigners in the medieval sense, i don't know the word, it's just robbing them, raping, destroying .

a huge tradition, what happened to ivan the terrible, he destroyed the reason for this because it began to interfere with his relations with the state , then peter i, who fought with the shooters , the shooters were militia, it was not the army, it was there was a militia that always demanded for itself special privileges of the free, punished everyone, destroyed them, i already mentioned this where we see analogs of this in the east in the ottoman empire , the janissaries, the sultan destroys the janissaries, and in front of this , the janissaries also put the sultans whom they like, and only by destroying this of the janissary system of medieval turkey becomes a more or less modern state in the west , all this was eliminated much earlier, as soon as the state becomes totalitarian, that is , medieval and not european in terms of

values, this construction immediately appears adolf hitler, who makes the decision that it is necessary to destroy the stormtroopers, ann is the old woman of his closest associate, the bandits, rem, the criminal, how he beautified him, the stormtroopers, who provided the opportunity, i would say, for the forceful victory of the national socialist workers ' party of germany, they rob, they rape , they create dens, they live like this , you know e- it is the life of a criminal because the love of some stormtroopers, others, joint robberies. kristallnacht against the jews or berlin was organized precisely by these people and here suddenly hitler realizes that if he continues to cooperate with them, he will not be able to get support from the german army from rexver, the generals of the german army

call him fuhrer, if you are with them, then you did not know how we can take any of your political plans seriously when you hope for support criminal groups and hitler decides to liquidate them, which results in a regime in which the ss become the center of decision-making, i.e., in essence, the kgb, i.e., in essence, the fsb, just like you you are destroying rem, you are not giving the army an opportunity to strengthen. is it a cyst? now we see such a hitler. the inside out of this hitler. i mean putin. he has a state in which the fsb is in charge. the fsb effectively restrains the army . the generals are heavily recruited .

these guys are just afraid of the chekists, is putin himself, or is he suddenly in this system because he feels he is bigger than a normal person, or is the dictator deciding to let a so-called private military company cross the line so that it does his dirty work zabaganka and at the same time did not dirty the clean flag of the federal security service of the russian federation or the main intelligence agency of the ministry of defense of russia with their dirty paws, but yesterday we saw an interesting thing that we did not know about, we, they, would not have found out about it if not for decorated appears on the screen lieutenant general alekseev deputy chief of the main intelligence directorate of the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation game famous game that they always said that it

has nothing to do with you what are you this is a private company is an adventure and he says, brothers, you and i performed joint tasks. i am proud of our shared experience , so after all, you were together, so after all, these people acted under the cover of the federal security service and the main division of the administration. and maybe even more so, the main intelligence the administration can be putin instructed to be the curators of these bandits, it is the military silencer that is an alternative to the fsbshniks. as an agent, he played ugu and oh-oh-oh, there was always a struggle for his agents, but then he himself raised a handsome man, and he, having been a cook and being brought in , went this way from putin's chef to the big one, i'll tell you this right away

also a legend, never once in his life did the handsome man come, he was not a chef, why was he called that? not conventionally, there is such a story, you know this movie is a famous french comedy, the restaurant panaceptima despasim receives the most serious guests of the city and the dead walk and he is there where he prepares the dishes. this was the owner of the restaurant, putin hosted george bush there, putin, a right-wing herald, celebrated his birthday there, and why is that because putin is part of the st. petersburg mother and the beauty is part

of the st. petersburg mafia, and if you want, take it easy to celebrate a birthday in a restaurant or vice versa to give your guest something to drink in order to get something from him or to be frank with him this does not apply to george bush i think that the president of the united states could provide for himself in such a place but for many other people you need a person who will be what you will trust prigozhin , at first he became such an organizer of production for putin , then he wasn't exactly pvc either, he was the owner of the troll factory, remember that was also a huge part of the history of the troll factory that is, people who demonstrated how it is possible to change the information nature of this or that political event at the expense of huge and information technologies. and by the way, it was not just a troll factory that participated in russia's pro-russian propaganda struggle against ukraine , it was the same angelica troll factory that

interfered in the presidential election in the united states of america is under sanctions for this very reason, he organized streams of slander on hillary clint, so there is no need to turn him into a waiter, this is huge this is part of the russian propaganda struggle, then pvk what is pvk this means that the main intelligence department of the general staff of general rykseev is the rubber of the tour in africa, this rubber is aware that certain regimes feel unstable, these regimes can pay for stability with gold, but the grushniks themselves cannot ensure this stability without military force, there is a choice or you send the military there, but this is a real conflict with france, with emmanuel macron and

the event of a demonstrative conference. and you don’t want of this conflict you want to knock them out through more i would say a hidden combination and then you think that you can create a brigade of mercenaries so as not to involve the army in ani and by the way the west has done this many times before we just forgot about it because the defense against it the famous french mercenary refused. he was a dinar . he carried out military coups on the comoros islands several times. he was actually the head of state . this is the current head of the comoros islands , who has now come to kyiv and moscow. seems to me to be a relative of the same president. if i am not mistaken, who was a dinar twice made the president of the comoros islands, and he himself was actually the ruler of that territory, and these mercenaries there called them soldiers of fate, they wandered around africa all the time and followed

the orders of the local authoritarian regimes in the end - in the end, the west realized that it was unproductive, he destroyed it all, and he began to say to african leaders that if you want our money, you should hold alternative elections, build democracy, allow your compatriots to govern the states if i am the president of the central african republic of tuaderas i don’t want it and the french can only give me a military contingent to maintain order and fight terrorists but not to strengthen my power then to whom should i turn to putin and as soon as things with "wagner appeared and it became clear that there was someone to turn to, they immediately resumed. what we in africa have not seen since the mid-90s of the last century, military coups and these military juntas that started accidentally passing into vlad to the authorities of that little tovburkina-faso, they suddenly all started focusing

on wagner on russia, this is serious and i will tell you more, if there were no prigozhyns, the russian economy began to look completely different because the gold and foreign exchange reserves in sudan, in the central african republic, in the small wagnerivka, gold is washed and this the gold goes into the pocket of the beauty in the pocket of putin and to the central bank of the russian federation , another criminal group that we cannot forget is the group of the central bank of the russian federation. this bank essentially benefits from looted bagners with this gold to ensure the stability of the russian ruble, and the beauty will put putin in prison someday, they will beat elvira and run the central bank as honestly and secretly as she herself , in fact, her little hand is in the blood of african citizens, citizens of african countries whose wagnerites were killed to establish control over these deposits there are also such, together with all the board of the central bank of the russian federation, the defendant must sit on the

bench, let there be excuses here, she will say that she is not fault, but she should be responsible for such things uhu and here imagine this situation when prigozhin begins to use it not only in africa, but in all of syria, he is also with general alekseev's collaborator, why because you do not establish control over the oil fields, oil, a percentage of the protection for the protection of oil fields, where it is brought into putin's pocket and to the budget of the russian federation , this is how they get the economy. the chef made a gang of mercenaries for himself. no, it is not such a structure, but it is, but at the same time, this structure is not part of any other structure . the ministry of defense of the fsb, to say that putin hitler, on the contrary, he had a clear structure that he transferred to such a completely unmanaged organization. the day came when

army generals and i think generals from lubyanka came to him and said volodymyr ivanovych and what can symbols look like and how do you give them orders and if they ignore our orders and if what happens to you and who they will be ordered, they will seize power the day after your death, look at them well, putin agrees that it is necessary to create a single vertical and this begins the eternal conflict of the sovereign with ivan the terrible's shoulder pads with the painted leatherette of peter the first behind hitler's riflemen, we see the sultan with janissaries , so a few news at the moment, a message appeared in lukashenka's press service that, in agreement with putin , he held talks with prigozhyn during the day and allegedly prigozhyn accepted lukashenka's proposals to end the movement and members of wagner's communist party

the territory of russia, they reached an acceptable option. however, prigozhin has already denied this information and wrote that there were no negotiations, and no, but they did not lead to anything , they were useless. in fact, deathstroke because putin announced in his speech that he is a traitor, and so if prigozhyn does not win now, he will be in prison. at the very least, putin was breeding . i think that putin. we understand what putin called lukashenko. i think that lukashenko was asking the hall he told him evgeny well, you understand that you can't against such a machination as putin against the entire russian state against the entire russian army listen you have so much money you can have such a beautiful life you have a position in africa

, why are you destroying everything with your own hands, and if i had such opportunities as you yevhen, you would come to belarus with your money and your boyfriends i need such guys in belarus it is a dream you know, you will take care of yourself in peace, africa, you will take care of yourself , ah, siri , i didn’t let anyone insult you in the world . said sasha, go anyway, thank you very much, mr. president , yes, and this is absolutely the same story . putin needs to buy time because he needs to understand which security forces are ready to fight and which will not carry out his orders to protect against wagner, because

we perfectly understand that if wagner suddenly will reach moscow and seize control of the russian capital, it does not matter where putin is at this moment and where he will give orders, putin's regime is self-destructing before our eyes and he needs, firstly , to minimize the territory captured by wagner, and secondly, to prevent dissidents from entering moscow and lukashenko is just wasting time, he acts like a puppet in putin's hands, he knows perfectly well what he is doing, and it is obvious that prigozhin is not the kind of person who will believe lukashenko and the whole campaign. he knows what awaits him. well of course, he thinks that this is a completely different story. by the way, lukashenko is not the only