[000:00:00;00] and where do you pray, cross yourself, remember your dead, light a candle, your personal relationship with volodymyr zelenskyi, and to what extent we have information, your wives are also friends, and it helps to implement some projects, as far as this is true , everyone does their own thing, mr. president and i are engaged in politics, i can say that we are really we personally love each other , but we engage in politics, of course. each of us represents our ukraine. we have various discussions, sometimes difficult, but i have pleases and sets us optimistic for the future if we discuss difficult issues, the spirit of these discussions is always friendly, that is, no one wants to embarrass anyone, no one wants

to harm anyone, we are simply looking for touch, we are looking for agreement, we are looking for understanding even in difficult situations, and our wives, of course, the first lady of ukraine elena program of ukraine or in other places where we took that is why she actually puts her husband to some extent omitted. volodymyr cannot leave kyiv, he cannot leave ukraine but different things, but mostly she was engaged in humanitarian work all the time, and here she cooperated with my wife, because my wife is not involved in politics at all. she really does humanitarian work, she helps refugees, helps children , including in ukraine, so she was in ukraine several times, bringing various kinds

of help there, and recently both organized training for ukrainian rescuers and doctors then in polish medical institutions , for example in lublin, where we have a special burn hospital department, there were trainings for ukrainian doctors and rescuers. i will ask you one more question. you have already talked a lot about the eu and ukraine's aspiration to join it, and we are probably closer than ever to that. but from your experience, as far as it goes, ukraine will wake up in an instant, just like in a fairy tale there in another country, when will it join the eu or what can we expect? it is difficult to say together how long this process will last, i can assure you of one thing that i stand by ukraine all the time , i was the initiator of the letter of the presidents who

immediately after the russian aggression against ukraine was addressed to the president of the european commission to give ukraine the status of a candidate, at that time there were many eu politicians, but there were big doubts , even those who tried to discourage me until it was removed. i thought that this pressure made sense, of course, because ukraine received a garden from candidate after several months were express i want to say one thing here ukraine can always count on me because i firmly believe in the ability of ukrainian society to adapt everything to of the european union, if it is in a more positive sense, how to best use membership in the ugu, i have no doubt that despite the costs that will have to be incurred , because of course, huge costs will have to be incurred, for example, in order to help ukraine to take place in the european union , it will pay off if ukraine becomes part of it as

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pain the dentist recommended lekalot sensiti what effectively reduces the sensitivity of teeth if i had known kalut sensiti you in the past i would not have had to come here at all home from finland, where i used to play, i really love my motherland and its people, and i am also tentatively proud of our soldiers . glory to ukraine

, but the city. that they will not be accepted into nato, but at least it is possible that there is an alternative option for us to include the variance. what do you think will be the decision on ukraine sex, dear ladies and gentlemen, i know the position of ukraine, ukraine is waiting for the invitation to nato, the procedure and the implementation of all these procedures and which should be completed as soon as possible, and after that ukraine should be accepted according to such a procedure as finland or not god from sweden, this is the position of ukraine. we know this position of ukraine, but the fact is that all members

of the north atlantic alliance must agree to this this is if, for example, we are dealing with unity and unanimity. no, they are not on the eastern flank of nato, we have favorable positions of other states that contribute to the position of ukraine, particularly in poland and the baltic states, but in order to convince all the other members or the rest of the continental nato

members , i.e. the continental countries of western europe, will there be a consensus for such a quick admission of ukraine to nato? such infectious solutions that will bring ukraine closer to so here we have the north atlantic alliance as close as possible, so close that this consensus was still there. therefore , there is no final solution here and we do not know in today we have three more weeks, we don't know when this consensus will be reached, so far i can say that it is already there, and if it concerns the fact that

the nato council was created in ukraine to adopt such a plan to support ukraine, the military support of ukraine is 100%, it is an achievement without a doubt compared to what exists today, so because until that time nato ukraine only had its own commission and as you know that this commission has not met once at its meeting for 6 years, the anatomy council is already a partnership union that is being established to full cooperation, not only the exchange of opinions, ideas, but also information, strategies, and so on and so on. i think that today you can say that this is on my menu, but

there should be more. therefore, the position of some of the countries on the eastern flank of nato boils down to that of probably the baltic states, probably poland what should we say, some sort of schedule, that is, a calendar, so that we can schedule the tasks that ukraine must complete and at what time, what time period, and at the same time we should make an assessment of these tasks , see how they are implemented, determine new tasks for ukraine so that the goal of ukraine's accession to nato should be in the near future in the perspective

of ukraine's actions and thoughts and ukraine's aspirations. and so that it would be acceptable for the northern atlantic gloss of countries that have not yet decided to take over ukraine and you they call arguments why it is very easy, there are many arguments, one of those arguments is that the starting point can be, for example, the situation determined at the bucharest summit in 2008, because everyone then agreed that the future of ukraine is in nato, but no one said when they told the future and in what future is the near or medium-term perspective far long-term perspective in other words, we can say that it was a declaration without any

nato obligations and this one argues in this way and these so-called unconvinced countries, they argue in this way. so this is a good weekend point, but it is necessary to do it now, it is a mistake, our argument is that a lot of bad things have happened since then. we have to take this into account. never accepted a donation ukraine, which is in a state of war, is a question of the territorial integrity of ukraine, how should

article 5 function or be used? somewhere else have an additional argument that in such a situation what will it mean ? we will admit ukraine to nato and will not behave according to the provisions of the fifth article, because if the fifth article is not fulfilled in relation to ukraine, then it will not be twisted or used for others in relation to other countries. that is, it is not element of the discussion, but those who will sit down at the negotiating table and there will have to make a decision, and when they meet with such an argument that ukraine should be admitted to nato immediately, then they will have somewhere else subconsciously such a question, that's what i said. so the situation is quite complex, on the other hand, the north atlantic alliance

is now how old it is, 74 years old, so it has a lot of experience, and the ukrainian experience will surely be another experience, we have not yet closed one chapter, that is, the swedish one section of the aviation police. what work is being done on the diplomatic front? we are creating conditions so that our partners are convinced that assistance to ukraine today is not even among the member countries

of the community, but of all the states of the free world, it boils down to creating various coalitions, that's how it is tank coalition as you know, we are now talking about an aircraft coalition. perhaps there will be other coalitions. during the week of aggression, no one thought about such a coalition, it was not on the negotiating table at all, and this was revealed by what appeared during those one and a half years, less than a year and a half, that is a year and a few months, the fact that these

coalitions appeared, it indicates that there is a dynamic process both from a mental point of view and from an intellectual point of view. but at the same time it is a process, a dynamic process that concerns the evolution of positions and joint measures of joint actions. therefore, poland and diplomacy are involved in this. well, of course, since the window has been open for more than a year, this question can be provided to you by a representative ministry of national defense of poland although i didn't tell you all the nuances because i can't we understood that until the victory of ukraine , there are no prospects for joining nato, well, there are none , what about joining the eu, what are the prospects what we still need to do and what the ukrainians got editor season

what is there? so, to close our discussion regarding ukraine's accession, this case raises a question. it is constantly open and we can categorically say before the summit that something is absolutely impossible. you said what we are saying. about certain processes and there is a discussion of opinions on arguments and so on and so on and so on. this is a political dynamic process and i am speaking . as i think it. as i see it as of today, that is , there is no consensus yet. if we are talking about nato itself but if we are talking about the nato council ukraine and i have not yet heard a single voice against such a council and against the creation of such a council, then we can say that

the bucharest summit is not the starting point for negotiations, that is, the starting point is something else, but now we will see how it will happen further if it is about introduction of ukraine to the european union, you are asking specifically about the chances, because ukraine has the status of a candidate country for the eu, and now the problem is when to start negotiations on accession, preparing for this meeting, you must have oriented yourself to the candidate status. this is a very good thing, but it does not determine in no way until now, there was no way to determine the period

by which the eu countries will be appointed for accession negotiations, because there are countries that have such experience, they have had candidate status for a decade, and whether they are much closer to accession, nothing indicates that such a situation would be repeated in the case of ukraine, that is, the situation is completely different, we are working in other conditions, and the expectation of many members of the european union is that it cannot last long and it cannot last for decades, it is about the fact that, however , this process has passed as soon as possible, it will depend on many factors, not only which ukraine will have progress if it is about

reforms of its administration, self-government , justice, horticulture, that is, the openness of the economy, that is, changing the principles economic life, so that it is more open, so that the rules of the game in the economy are predictable and transparent, what ukraine will do, or it is possible to carry out reforms, we have our own experience, it lasted for 10 years, i am convinced that in the case of ukraine, it should last much shorter period of time but but you must remember that it will depend on what progress will be made in

reforming ukraine and how a consensus will be formed regarding ukraine within the european union there have already appeared certain conditions for the requirements of how to reform the european union, what procedures to change in order to accept ukraine into the eu, but the situation is repeating once again the situation before this situation, which is due to the accession of ukraine to nato, no one imagined this a year ago. in a year, it requires clairvoyant

abilities. today, poland is our unofficial lawyer who defends the interests of ukraine , with whom it is most difficult . to nato or to the european union and european society. and who do you think is the most difficult with the germans ? i think

you are right. there are certain expectations regarding the relationship between ukraine and hungary, on the other hand, if we are talking about germany, this is already a more systemic issue, it is already traditional, it stems from the traditional policy of germany, which was very close to russia before russia's aggression against ukraine well, it is also certain that germany cares about the shape of the european union as a whole when such a powerful player will appear in the european union what is ukraine because

then even the demographic point of view how difficult it is to say how much the population of ukraine will be after the war , for example, how many ukrainian guests our ukrainian guests who come to poland will return to ukraine and so on and the like, but it will surely be a country in terms of population plus or minus like spain here we must say that the appearance of such a state to the east of germany next to poland is already a completely new quality of all geopolitics within the european union , and i do not think that the hungarians are actually guided by this . but the germans are definitely guided by this approach and continuing the theme of supporting ukraine in poland really

at the beginning of the russian invasion, she became such a true friend for ukraine, oh, why, where did the poles come from ? willingness to help ukraine, support ukraine, they said something slower, the minister himself understood, but it is not visible, i do not know in poland no family involved is involved in any way in providing aid to ukraine, only to the extent that, for example, polish volunteers go to ukraine to provide humanitarian aid or humanitarian aid, it does not come down to the fact that we accept ukrainians

who are refugees who fled the war we receive them in our homes in our apartments , this is also a situation in which someone writes a check and transfers money in electronic form to an organization that helps ukraine, this is a situation when or in which someone leaves the church after messi he takes money and gives it to me in the morning, and immediately a priest came from ukraine and so on and so on, that is, there are many, many forms of help and a lot of motivation, and so why so many motivations? how many people are there who help? but if we talk collectively, what about

what unites us poles is what i think is, first of all, the lack of agreement on this terrible injustice when we see that a neighboring country wants to carry out terrible social engineering , that is, the destruction of both the people and the population, and plus there is

such experience that we have seen. these are crimes that which are actually killed in the ballot, this is the preparation of the kidnapping, the removal of the deportation, and i am convinced that this experience actually raises a lot and touches a lot of polish hearts . that such behavior of poles, such actions of poles, that is, for a civilized person , this is something that is unacceptable, that cannot be imagined, it reminds me of our family

stories in my generation. i think that and later, when a family of 10-20-30 people gathered in polish homes, for example, on the occasion of some family holidays, it very often happens that people start to remember who was where in the 39th year - in the 39th year, when the territory of poland entered the soviet red army, who was shot, who went to siberia, who died in the wagons that took him to siberia, who disappeared or who was killed in katyn or in some other similar places, and everyone feels that this person is very much not alive. but at the same time, those who deprived this person of fresh they are life

there is no such person in the soviet union, and we know that on the one hand crimes of all types are committed or have been committed in almost every city , which are in the criminal code and murder, rape, forced confiscation of property , forced deportation, but on the other hand, there is this criminal who did it he lies to the living eye and tries to lie in this world and convince that it is not so. therefore, if we in poland look at it, we analyze everything and these comparisons are obvious and i think that this is an additional