[000:00:00;00] to say about the fact that all this happened to a person, well, that's normal well, that's scary, it's a completely normal course, and now they're discussing a lot of things. well, how did they open a criminal case and then let them go? i left for belarus. that 's a laugh at legal norms. i'm just i want to remind you that the vedic norms are not the commandments of christ and they are the tablets of moses. legal norms are written by people. people write legal norms in order to protect order and stability in the country if in some exceptional critical in some cases, it is obtained so that legal norms cease to fulfill their function of protecting law and order and stability. well, they perform the opposite function, then they walk in the forest. these

legal norms are the tyranny of the tried-and-tested treaty of the state on the topic of who stopped on the path of the bear. there is no punishment. where this was unknown, because there are no such norms. in fact, but here it turned out that way, and this is probably the first conclusion from the entire history that if a person has enough weapons and his own army , then nothing will happen to him, he can do anything he wants, moreover, even in the news they won't tell about the fact that they shot down several helicopters there, the plane died there, a couple of dozens of people, well, in general, isn't this a little thing , and it seems that so many helicopters, uh , they weren't even shot down in the theater of military operations, how did this handsome man manage to shoot down

in one literally the day of his promotion to moscow, but this is all forgiven, eh, to say that he is finally forgiven, not because this is what piskov said there, as if they were going to close the criminal case against prigozhin, this morning it became known that no complaint was closed, the case was not closed well, in principle, some part of the propagandists immediately began to talk about the fact that this cannot go unpunished and that something must be done about it. and you know how to forgive , well, not everything is just the impossibility of betrayal, that's exactly what happened at the end of the week.

that in russia an armed riot has formed in our country, the government can be any but a weak one . now everyone expresses their opinion, but i am firmly convinced that the traitors will necessarily destroy the wartime today. i told only a bullet in the forehead stupidity savior and for a consonant for a boatman what happened well, this is just a spit in the face of betrayal, don’t say goodbye in any case , just don’t say goodbye and don’t look at what merits there were, i ’ll repeat once again that the only way out for these friends will probably shoot spit in putin 's face, but their eyes will shoot, this is still a big

question for now. and the next question is constant , how did this guy go to moscow and so quickly, but would you like to go to another place and ask this question? literally a propagandist, what is this? 25,000 of heavy equipment against air systems , 1,000 more cars, don't go to kiev, don't go to lviv, i'm going to warsaw, i 'm going to moscow. ah, but when you move to kyiv or even kharkiv, you can get it on the head. let’s say this. but as

this practice showed, when you move to moscow, well, this whole story of taking something there in three days becomes much more realistic if you set yourself the goal of taking in three days to moscow this is a realistic plan, but to take kyiv kharkiv in three days. i won’t say anything else that is completely unrealistic and especially. apparently, the people of wangiriv understood this after more than seven months of trying to take bakhmut, even there a small place. the russian army managed to capture during its special operation this is the city of rostov see you there are discounts on 15% hepatrombin gel in pharmacies

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is in full swing. we thank olga leni for an extremely interesting analysis of russian propaganda and strange informational exhausts that gave confused russian propands sleep . and oksana vysochanska and i will continue our information broadcasting now we connect to the conversation rostislav pavlenko, people's deputy of ukraine, ex-director of the national institute of strategic studies in 18-19. glory to ukraine by rostislav. i congratulate everyone. what should the issue be raised acutely? we should have been acutely talking about it since the beginning of the war. different values ​​are exported from ukraine, transported by airplanes in various strange ways , they leave the borders of our country, and here is a new turn of this story, we really hope that

this time it is all an element the information war is about what is being exported, then it is being exported, and such information began to circulate. rostyslav, that the relics from the kyiv-pechersk lavra can be taken out of ukraine and handed over to italy. check this whole thing. we can't. minister of culture and information policy tkachenko denies this whole thing. so we will tell you as an objective and informed person . well, the first thing we need to do is to contact the minister of culture and information policy, because the commission of the ministry conducted an inspection there and carried out a reconciliation there. well, for whom are the relics, for whom is the object of cultural heritage, that's why the quantity and quality had to match. and if they didn't match, then it's the subject of a criminal case, an investigation and

finding out who took it, when it took it where , and everything like that, so if... uh, we've heard uh-uh enough such a meaningful statement of the commission about the fact that there are dozens of points that do not match there , not a list of what should have been and a list of what is, uh, so i think that the most complete answer should still be given by the representatives of the commission , but judging by that their verdict is absolute coincides with the decree of the ukrainian people or the moscow one fell into place with the kyiv-pechersk lavra, then apparently something critical does not coincide, therefore there are three components of what to do now, the first component is still to pass the draft law, it is better there princely european solidarity in order to finally break with the moscow church in ukraine, well, or start with the government's and then finalize it from the second reading, and this is still the same conclusion that i was talking about, give it

a legal process and find out who exactly is to blame for because it has been charged and prosecuted well, you have a very beautiful view on the screen now with this laurel, this entire laurel from the upper to the lower should be owned by the ukrainian people and transferred to the use of the ukrainian church so that the language would sound there so that it would sound there ukrainian prayer so that the question of where and what happened will never arise, but the question of where and what happened should be answered by the right, mr. rostyslav. actually, we would like to ask you about this extremely important moment, and how it worked. perhaps you have heard of this the audit commission, yes, because we understand that well, i don't know, they weighed those relics, they understand, it is possible to count the icons , so to speak, the question is that it was cataloged, so to speak, that no, maybe part of the catalogs disappeared somewhere, or there was some kind of electronic catalog, and so on, we understand it as if it were some small details

but in order to prove that there should have been such and such a number of sacred units. well, accordingly . well, i don't know about the electronic catalog, but it definitely should have been. it was in the historical and cultural reserve, we remember. we remember that there was a serious issue in the museum, in fact, that is, the museum staff should keep this entire list . well, in the end, we heard the responsible statements of the commission and the ministry about the fact that it does not correspond to the fact that it matches the documents, that is, this discrepancy is actually makes up the material part, as the lawyers say, of the future criminal case. here, mr. minotaur, there is still such a question, because we have applications that supposedly should export these valuables to europe, but there is such a moment, and more than once there have been recorded cases when

in particular, relics were taken across the eastern border, what should we do with this , how should we now ensure that the people who used to be in power in this lavra, in fact, somewhere there, they did not bring pieces of relics or other valuables ? where does something else work, because it is a question of finding out where dily is, who looked at the girl under what robes, what he did, because then a list must be compiled and when will the actual list of what russia must return within the limits of reparations and contributions be compiled that's it there must again be a concrete list of cultural values ​​that must be returned to ukraine. and now it is important to establish this list as precisely as possible, as comprehensively as possible, so that both ukraine and the allies at the upcoming peace conference after russia recognizes what exactly

she has to pay and compensate, she didn't forget to return what was taken out in previous years as well, but mr. rostislav, we too, well, to a certain extent, i think realists understand how it happens, but there was an audit a few years ago and it was clarified that in the national art gallery of borys voznytskyi, many priceless old oaks disappeared and so on, criminal cases were opened there, even after they were dragged , they did not find anyone, criminal cases were lying around and covered up, well, accordingly, there are fears that they will also begin to conduct an audit, but they will not be able to establish even if they record the fact of theft then they won't be able to find out when and who stole it, they'll say well, it doesn't match like that, and we 'll understand that some of them are parishioners of the moscow church, because they are fanatical

, and i'm not surprised that they really were uh, what took place, well, there were repeated attempts to remove what is called a relic, it is, well, for us, for believing people, it is really an extremely important story, it is not just a museum, you know, it is not an exhibit, it is part of the sacrum of ours, which is concentrated in the kiev-pechersk lavra , i absolutely agree with you you know, when the second world war was ending, the allies created special departments that actually evaluated similar things when valuables were taken out of european museums, er , sacred things were also taken out, and then from all temples, from all caves, from all that means bunkers, it was all pulled out, assessed, checked against the lists and sent back from where it was actually stolen . i am convinced that now ukraine should raise this as well as a question on the same level as the question of material compensation on the same level as the question of the use of frozen in europe in the united states other countries of the assets of the russian federation, as well as the search

for the location and return of assets, and i think that one of the points of the future peace conference will again be the need for the admission of an international commission, necessarily with the participation ukrainian specialists in the museum business of cultural heritage and probably of the orthodox church of ukraine, since it is primarily about orthodox churches in order to evaluate something that suddenly appeared in russian churches and , er, in order to return it to ukraine to its people and our churches, the question of is it worth it or is it possible after all, what an unnecessary false job to force people to do what they don't want because they won't do it . it's good under compulsion. talking about the krasyls about the khmelnytskyi region, i think there are quite a lot of such stories all over ukraine, but this is just the last such very

eloquent example, and they are trying to force it so, actually, this information is presented that they have to transfer the company or they have to transfer the report or why they were forced to hand over the temple to who he passed, he passed, all the others have what to do, you know what to do, do what you want , well, first of all, i have to comply with the law from the 18th year that you can, of course, not pass, but if you are part of the moscow churches, and you remember that the expert examination in the 19th year under president poroshenko and has now reached the third year there under president zelensky eh, here eh, the subject is absolutely the same and the exhibitions were the same, the expert examination clearly established that the ukrainian orthodox church as it is calls herself the one of the moscow patriarchate, that is, according to it, she must honestly tell

people about it, and then there is no need to press for pity , there is no need to tell that you are under duress. well, tell me honestly that you want to be with moscow and see how many people this is your church to come to. you don’t want to move, but people want this church to be in the ukrainian church. this is actually this church. it was in the ukrainian church . well, then you have to decide for yourself what is closer to you: ukraine or kyryll gundyaev. the question is whether she needs such a priest in this community, so if the priest wants to stay with this community, wants to be in the ukrainian church , then obviously the question does not arise - whether he was forced or not, he made a decision , he moved. well, thank god, and if in others our parts of the moscow church in ukraine decided that he is not right, he must be corrected, so remember in the same khmelnytskyi, only not vkrasilov, but actually in

khmelnytskyi, and there was a problem that a veteran soldier was beaten in the temple and people demanded very quick decisions, and the local bishop passed keys and agreed to transfer to the police station, and then literally in a few hours, the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs decided that they would have others there , vladyka. well, the reaction to such things should also be very quick, so then it is not about laundering legal ukraine you want to switch to the ukrainian church of course you are like that according to your people you want to stay i will give you where you are but then please tell the truth follow the law of ukraine say that you are the moscow church well then don't be surprised what the ukrainian people will say to you accordingly thank you rostyslav pavlenko people's deputy of ukraine the ex-director of the national institute

of strategic studies was with us the head of the crimean tatar resource center members of the forest of the crimean tatar people glory to ukraine dear mr. from kandera congratulations to you hero well today is a big holiday for the crimean-tatar people, it is the day of the flag, and together with oksana, we congratulate your honorable mr. bariv and the entire crimean-tatar people with that truly extremely important holiday. so we understand that the flag is a symbol of the people and its political manifestations of aspirations, and so on , we understand that now your homeland in the crimean peninsula is temporarily occupied by the russians, but in any case the crimean tatar people adhere to the basic principles that they defended throughout the 20th century, that is, the attraction to their own

identity and the support of the ukrainian statehood in all possible manifestations. thank you for the greetings. i also want to congratulate not only the crimean tatar people. i want to congratulate the entire ukrainian people, the ukrainian community , why, why, ukrainian society, why , because it really became the crimean tatar flag in 2014. let's go to many ukrainians. crimea, moreover, many ukrainians use this flag, including at the front. and this flag he participated in in 2004 and 2005 during the revolution on the eve of the orange revolution, when ukrainians made their choice and the crimean tatar flag, the flag also actively participated in the revolution of dignity, when all ukrainians from this ukrainian society fought for the future, for the european future of our

ukraine, and the crimean tatar flag, now it is really actively used on international platforms, when we try to demonstrate that crimea is part of ukraine, that crimea is and the crimean tatar flag, eh . the symbols of the crimean tatar people, as the crown of the people of ukraine, said this eh . joint victory, two flags, one country and two flags, one motherland, we have this, we are, i want to tell you about the fact that for many ukrainians today, this flag is their native flag, and therefore i congratulate all the citizens of ukraine with the flag day of the krasnodar

flag, see i understand that in kyiv it is very important and very good that what is honored. actually, on this day, the flag of the crimean tatar people is honored, and it is quite obvious that in such conditions that we have, uh, near the kmda building today, this flag was raised uh, it looks like the fact that in crimea it is much more difficult to honor national symbols to honor one's flag actually today they detained three crimean tatars who were planning to climb the white rock with crimean tatar flags please tell me a little more about how to express one's national identity to honor national symbols in crimea and in general, to show that uh, we are ukrainians, we are crimean tatars, not russians , or would there be any such traditions restored there? yes, it was indeed and correctly

said that the crimean tatar flag is an element of ethnic identity and just the same step, the shepherd's flag and we are trying, and our compatriots are constantly trying to raise the flag in the afternoon, on the day of the memory of the victims of the crimean tatar people's genocide , may 18, and on the day of the constitution of the flag and in the afternoon and the international day of the leading peoples of the world are really the occupiers on the eve of such , yes, for such, let’s say i don’t know what vdar ​​is for the crimean tatars. went out and held mass events. i want to remind you that in ukrainian times, the crimean tatars constantly gathered such mass meetings, and we saw that they also took place in

the central square of the city of simferopol, and there was also a climb to the top. on ip3 a-a and the occupiers are constantly, well, let's say so, they constantly interfered with all these processes , including when they tried to conduct car inspections , they stopped cars like cars. go with raise the crimean tatar flags and there were really three of them, one of them is rustem kurnosov, it's the activists of the cattle movement, and they also gave me this action, for example, there was also a grandmother who was detained, and the woman wanted to

age, let's say, which also tried to rise, but right here they are trying to stop all this issue in all sorts of ways because they understand that when the crimean tatars raise the konskotarian flag and hold events. it is dangerous to say so, but nobody has a moratorium, it is dangerous because they are afraid of the indigenous people, what are they afraid of ? that the crimean tatars support the integrity of ukraine, support the sovereignty of ukraine, and therefore the verkhovna rada of ukraine, on march 20, 2014

, in response to this appeal, made an appeal for the protection and preservation of the indigenous nor-indigenous circle of the first people and representatives of other peoples crimean tatars demonstrated for 7-9 years their commitment to ukraine and did not take part in mass nor did they take part. and in others, and that is why they consider the principle of the tatars as not loyal to russia, a part of the population of crimea, and that is why they really fear the indigenous people, because really, the very definition of the indigenous people is the basis of international law, and here it is precisely still, the definition of the root people to be in ukraine is very important, let's say a-a and

a legal e-e legal step that e-e now helps, including at the level of the e-e european court of human rights and at the level of the international court of the united nations, dear panel scandals would like to ask you what news is currently in chongara, something recently arrived there, there is information that the enemy has now installed a pontoon crossing, so indeed they talked about the fact that they will install a pontoon pontoon crossing there, and they said that they will install from two to six such at the crossing points in order to ensure logistics to uh, let's say mine to the kherson region in melitopol, this means beijing animal, and then to melitopol in the zaporizhia direction, and ah, i think that they will install pontoons because this route is really logistically very

important, very important , in order to transfer military equipment, personnel, and personnel from henichesky district and melitopol to the direction of genichest side, towards melitopol; equipment, that is, that is why they are trying to do everything in one way or another to repair this city as quickly as possible, but according to our calculations, they will be able to do it no earlier than in three weeks . we actually have updated information with us and russia is writing about it , although it is true that the belarusian gayun planes of prigozhin are still in russia.

belarus, but it seems that it is not necessary, because both of his planes are in moscow, one is actually in moscow, and the other flew yesterday from st. petersburg to the south of russia and then returned back, that is, to st. petersburg, in belarus they began to build camps for the accommodation of wagner's fighters after agreements with lukashenka, a russian publication in york writes about it, according to the publication, the first camp for eight thousand people is being built in osypovychy , mogilev region, located 200 km from the border with ukraine. anna eva melnyk and her team will tell in a moment. thank you, colleagues, for your work . the news team continues to work and in the final issue we will talk about the verdict in the handziuk case, the successes of the armed forces of ukraine at the front and the dnipro showed what two