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[000:00:00;00] confirmation of the guarantee for the operations of the world bank, if i recall correctly. around three billion, private business also joined the so-called business compact - it is already about 500 companies, the total amount of which is about three, about one trawled euro means the fortunes of these companies. that is, these were serious proposals announced by the european commission and the member states, which once again confirm that ukraine will not be left alone and no matter how the russian federation tries to create a split in the ranks of our
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partners, it is not possible, and on the contrary, this support is getting stronger, we heard mr. vsevolodove. i thank you very much for taking the time to join the broadcast in the village of chentsov , the representative of ukraine to the european union. and the head of the center for promotion of reforms, a few more questions about what can happen in russia, how will it affect the russian-ukrainian war a-a p georges and greetings good evening good evening well, er, literally before our release appeared prigozhin's statement after two days of silence he says that he came forward to transfer equipment because the mercenaries did not want to sign contracts with the ministry of defense. let's listen to his direct speech now, and then i will ask questions as a result of incriking no well-thought-out decisions
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. of the year, a council of commanders gathered and brought all the information to the soldiers, no one agreed to sign a contract with the ministry of defense, you only because i don't know everything because of my situation опыта в время свой что это предётёт к полный потере бы испольнести then in his speech, i will explain for the audience who did not hear a-a he said that they said that the equipment was simply driven into the equipment , rockets were hit and the wagnerites were killed, so they were forced to answer er-e, what does this indicate this statement is generally in this form after two days of silence, and is it possible to believe the twisted version voiced by prigozhin well, of course , it is impossible to believe it because we saw a complete second story and listened to complete other statements, but this means that it was prepared with
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on the one hand, he gave up and came to terms with his defeat of his ego, which did not appear. obviously, at the moment when he stopped his performance in moscow, but on the other hand, he apparently expects to play a good game somehow, and by the way, he did not give any details as for where he is, what are his plans for the future, what does this good game mean , which you say will be a good game for prigozhin, it is very difficult to say this because it is optimal for him to keep his assets first, and he has an asset in russia and he has assets in countries in africa, where the wagner dude is actively helping the local not-so-democratic regime. it seems that as far as we know putin's political style, all of this must be taken away from the beauties. we will put an end to that. thank you for your trust and
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yanitsky on weekdays at 8:10 a.m. espresso let's start with the most pressing issues. we are waiting for that freedom . we want to understand what ukraine is waiting for. we know that we will not be accepted into nato yet, but we are accepting. maybe there is an alternative our option sounds like an option. what do you think will be the decision regarding ukraine, dear ladies and gentlemen? i know the position of ukraine. ukraine and after that ukraine should be adopted according to a procedure like finland or not from sweden. this is the position of ukraine. we
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know this position of ukraine, but but to guess already the fact is that all members of the north atlantic alliance must agree to this , we are dealing with unity and unanimity no, they are not on the eastern flank of nato, we have favorable positions positions of other states that contribute to the position of ukraine, in particular in poland and the baltic states, but the point is to convince all the other members or the remaining members of continental nato, i.e. the continental countries of western europe
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, whether there will be a consensus for such a quick admission of ukraine into nato. for her, i think that the best solution would be to find such institutional solutions that would bring ukraine closer to the north atlantic alliance as close as possible, so close that this consensus was still broken. therefore, the final decision it is not here and we do not know in which place. today we have three more weeks, we do not know at what stage this consensus will be reached
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. for now, i can say that it is already there, and if it concerns the fact that the nato ukraine council was created to adopt such a plan to support ukraine military support of ukraine is 100%, this is an achievement without a doubt compared to what is today, so because until now, ukraine, nato, ukraine only had its own commission, and as you know, this commission has not met once
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at its meeting for 6 years, and instead glad it is already a partnership alliance that boils down to full cooperation, not only the exchange of thoughts and ideas, but also information, strategies , and so on and so on. i think that today you can say that this is on my menu. of the baltic states, probably poland. what should have been indicated is a schedule plan , i.e. a calendar, so that we can schedule the tasks that ukraine must complete and at what time, what time period, and at the same time
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, an assessment of these tasks should be made to see how they are implemented, to determine new tasks for ukraine, so that the goal of ukraine's accession to nato was in the near future, in the perspective of the actions and thoughts of ukraine and the aspirations of ukraine, so that it was acceptable for the north atlantic, they did not decide to take ukraine arguments why just arguments, that is, there are many arguments, one of those arguments is that the starting point can be , for example, the situation determined at the bucharest summit in 2008, because everyone then agreed that the future of ukraine is in nato, but no one said when they said the future and in what
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future is the near or medium-term perspective distant long-term perspective in other words, it can be said that it was a declaration without any nato obligations and this argument is in this way and these so -called unconvinced countries are arguing in this way. point, but it is necessary to act now, it is a mistake, our argument is that a lot of bad things have happened since then, we must take this into account, there are also other issues that you know about, this is, for example, no one's question never accepted a donation from ukraine, which is in a state of war, there is a question
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of the territorial integrity of ukraine, how should article 5 function or be used? somewhere else they have a random argument that in such a situation. what will it mean? what value will this article fifth have for other states we will admit ukraine to nato and will not behave according to the provisions of the fifth article, because if they do not fulfill the fifth article in relation to ukraine, then they will not twist it or use it for others in relation to other countries. that is, it is not an element of the discussion, but those who will sit down at the negotiating table and there will have to make a decision, and when they meet with such an argument that ukraine should be admitted to nato immediately, then they will still have somewhere subconsciously such a question as
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i said, so the situation is quite complex, on the other hand, the north atlantic alliance is now how old it is, 74 years old, so it has a lot of experience, and the ukrainian experience will surely be another experience of the alliance, we have not yet closed one chapter, i.e. of the swedish section of the aviation police. what work is being done on the diplomatic process? we are creating conditions so that our
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partners, partners, are convinced that assistance to ukraine today is not even among the rogue countries of the atlantic community, but of all the states of the free world, it boils down to creating various coalitions. there is a tank coalition. as you know, we are now talking about an aircraft coalition. perhaps there will be other coalitions. what is interesting is who and what is in these coalitions. so that on march 1, 2022, that is, in the first week of the aggression, no one thought about such a coalition, it was not on the negotiating table at all, and it appeared what appeared during those one and a half years, less than a
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year and a half, that is a year and a few months, what these it has appeared, it shows that there is a dynamic process both from a mental point of view and from an intellectual point of view. but at the same time it is a process, a dynamic process that concerns the evolution of positions and joint measures of joint actions. so this year, poland and diplomacy have been participating for more than a year age is not this a representative of the ministry of national defense of poland can provide you with questions. although he won't tell you all the nuances anyway, because he can't. we understood that until the victory of ukraine , there are no prospects for joining nato, well, there are none. what about joining the eu? what are the prospects? what else do we need to do? and what
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ukrainians have received and that's all you are, so to close our discussion that concerns the accession of ukraine to nato, the whole question is constantly open and you can categorically say before the summit that something is absolutely impossible. you said that we are talking about certain processes and there is a discussion of agreements on conducting arguments and so on and so on and so on. this is a political dynamic process and i say it as i think it as i see it as of today, that is , there is no consensus yet. if we are talking about nato itself, but
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if we are talking about the nato ukraine council and i have not yet heard a single voice against such a council or against the creation of such a council, so we can say that the bucharest summit is not the starting point for negotiations, that is, the starting point is something else , but now we will see how it will happen further, if it is about the accession of ukraine to the european union, then you are asking specifically about the chances, because ukraine has the status of a candidate country, then the eu, and now the problem is when to start negotiations on joining this meeting
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. but this does not determine in any way until now there has been no determination of the period by which the eu countries will be appointed for accession negotiations, because there are countries that have such a certificate. they have had the status of a candidate for a decade and are they much closer to the introduction, nothing indicates that such a situation will be repeated in the case of ukraine , that is, the situation is completely different, actions in other conditions and the expectations of many members of the european union are such that it cannot last long and it cannot last for decades, it means that however , this process has passed and arrived as quickly as possible. it will
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depend on many factors, not only which ukraine will have progress if it comes to reforms of its administration, self-government , bodies of justice, horticulture, that is, openness of the economy, i.e. change the principles of economic life, so that it is more open, so that the rules of the game in the economy are predictable and transparent. should last a much shorter period of time
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, but you must remember that it will depend on what progress will be made in the reform of ukraine, on how the consensus will be formed with regard to ukraine, within the european union, there have already appeared certain conditions of requirements, how to reform the european union, what procedures to change in order to admit ukraine to the eu, but there is , i repeat once again, the situation before this situation, which is ukraine's proxy to nato, no one imagined this until a year ago, true. so
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now to imagine what will happen in a year, it requires clairvoyant abilities today is our unofficial lawyer who defends the interests of ukraine with whom is the most difficult if you can say to communicate and convince which countries if it is also about joining of the european union and to nato or to the european union european union and who do you think is the most difficult with him with him i think you are right hungarians too
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ms. homini k yes yes i think there are certain differences despite everything in the case of hungary it is possible first for all certain expectations regarding the relationship between ukraine and hungary, on the other hand, if we are talking about germany, then this is already a question of a more systemic nature, it is already traditional, it stems from the traditional policy of germany, which was close to god with russia before russia's aggression against ukraine well, it is also certain that germany cares about the shape of the european union as a whole, when
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such a powerful player as ukraine will appear in the european union, because then even from a demographic point of view , it is difficult to say how much the population of ukraine will be after the war, for example of ukrainian guests, how many of our ukrainian guests who come to poland will return to ukraine and so on and so on, but it will surely be a country in terms of population plus or minus like spain here we must say that the appearance of such a state to the east of germany next to poland is already a completely new quality of all geopolitics within the european union
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and i do not think that the hungarians are actually guided by this . but the germans are definitely guided by this approach and continuing the theme of supporting ukraine in poland really at first, the russian support became such a true friend for ukraine, and why? where did the poles get such a will to help ukraine and support ukraine ? in poland, there is not a single family that was not involved in any way in providing aid to ukraine, because it does not come down to the fact that polish volunteers go
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to ukraine with the provision of humanitarian aid or humanitarian aid, it does not come down to the fact that we accept ukrainians who are refugees who fled the war, we accept them into our homes, into our apartments, this is also a situation in which someone writes a check , transfers money in electronic form to an organization that helps ukraine, this is a situation where men leave the church after messi he takes the money and gives it to the administrator, and immediately a priest came from ukraine and so on and so on, that is, there are
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many, many forms of help and a lot of motivation, and so why so many motivations? how many people are there who help? but if we talk together, what unites us this is what we poles have, what i think is, first of all, the lack of agreement on this is a terrible injustice when we see that a napkin neighboring country wants to carry out terrible social engineering
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, that is, the destruction of its people and population, and there is a plus such an experience that we saw. these are crimes that are actually killed in the ballot, this is also rape, kidnapping, removal, deportation, and i am convinced that this experience actually raises a lot and touches a lot of polish hearts, why. because it is something that is unacceptable from the perspective of the first from a purely human perspective, but on the other hand , it can be said that such behavior of poles, such actions of poles, that is, for a civilized person , this is something

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