[000:00:00;00] sokhran lived in the city of uzhgorod on telmana street and it is known that on saturday, june 17, around 11 o'clock at night, he left home and still hasn't returned. the guy will disappear by himself and together with his friends. девушка мене 12-year-old sokhran will disappear alone and together with his friends 14 -year-old edgar markovich and fifteen-year-old sofia lokatosh edgar is a neighbor of tsuram who also lived in uzhhorod on telman street, while sofia lived outside the city in an urban-type village, the children disappeared in on the night of june 18, there is information that around one o'clock in the morning all three children were seen in the area of ​​the railway station in the central part of the city of uzhgorod. it was previously known that the minors could have gone to the city of leva and may now be on the outskirts of the city in

the settlement of chroms. i am asking you to look carefully again on the photo of the missing children and remember these faces. if anyone suddenly saw 13-year-old sokhran, his 14-year-old friend edgar or their 15-year-old friend sofia, or knows where the children might be , call us immediately on hotline the magnolia child tracing service line with the short number 116,000 calls from any mobile operator are free or write to the chat bot of the child tracing service in telegram even a small piece of information can become very important, i also want to remind you that the search for 15-year-old mark smorodinov, who lived in mariupol, one of them was at the beginning of a full-scale war on february 24, 2022. during all this time, there was no news about the child, and where the boy might be now

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always be at this time. well, as always, on the espresso tv channel where we have not been turned off, and on youtube, and you can find us on youtube watch at once on two channels in the general espresso and a special one created for our program the world at war so on this special we ask a question every week to which we want to hear your answer this week there is also a question and it sounds like this prigozhin shook, well, his circus, putin's positions, three answer options, yes, no, your option, and in the middle of the program, i will match the intermediate results of your p- your answers to this question at the end, let's see how this survey ended and who thinks about their options, you can write in chat, er, which will be from the side during the broadcast. well, i also

really want those who watch us on youtube, er , please put your likes. if you like the program, i'm sure you 'll like it, don't like it if you don't like it even if you don't i'm sure you'll like it well write your comments it's extremely important for us and extremely important for our program to be promoted on youtube as many people can have the opportunity to see it well i'm ready to introduce my first guest and go directly to the conversation, oleksandr leonov, executive director of the applied research center, penta, mr. oleksandr, congratulations, glory to ukraine, congratulations, glory to the heroes, mr. oleksandr , thank you very much for joining the program, watch first, now i will briefly tell the audience well, i will prepare them for this first question, which i will ask you: ukraine will join nato in its own way, about this during a briefing in the pentagon last week

, the spokeswoman for the ministry of defense of the united states of america, sabrina singh, said in response to a question about the prospect of our country joining the north atlantic alliance according to her, the secretary general of the alliance, jens toltenberg , has repeatedly emphasized that the doors of nato are open to all who wish, but then there is a short quote from the spokeswoman. it is inspiring that we see in the case of sweden and when the case comes to ukraine, they will have their own way to joining nato, oleksandr i have repeatedly asked experts who joined me in the program before me on the air for probably the last 2-3 weeks about that and why are we afraid and perhaps delayed in brussels to formally invite us to join the north atlantic alliance? i understand that

informally. that is, we submitted an application , the application was accepted. er, in the russian war that is ongoing in ukraine on the territory of ukraine, we all understand that in order to become a member of nato, we all understand that in order to become a member of nato, we must fulfill some mandatory requirements and we will gradually fulfill them. this is quite a difficult process, but i also want the same for you ask why in brussels they are delaying for so long and at the summit in vilnius most likely they will not be invited either, maybe they won't say ukraine we want you to become a member of nato and you know, it seems to me that here we are speaking a little in different languages ​​in brussels because we have when was biden's statement, do you remember when he said that ukraine must fully meet all the criteria of a member of the alliance, there were quite a lot of conversations

that biden was afraid of russia and so on , in fact, in fact, in nato and in the european union, a consensus has actually been formed that ukraine has prospects to become a member of the alliance and members of the european union, but we also have to understand that they are not afraid of russia, because even the old countries that were friends of russia , france, germany provide ukraine with lethal weapons with which they kill russians, they talk about it know, and that is why they provided us with these weapons, that is, the question is not that they are afraid of russia, but now nato and the european union have another phobia, and this is the new hungary, in fact, hungary has become a country that destroys the unity of the european union and nato, and in unofficial conversations it is precisely this fabia that is very actively talked about in and

in brussels and in other capitals of nato and the european union, and actually here i would like to move on to the fact that this is actually a subjective reason for the fact that we will not be officially invited to nato and the objective reason is that ukraine now, oleksandr, i'm sorry, the connection is broken. well, you keep talking because sometimes the connection is broken, and the objective reason, unfortunately, is that ukraine does not always follow the instructions given by the west. and which it must fulfill, so let's not be verbose, i will say about the seven criteria that ukraine had to fulfill in order to start negotiations on joining the european union, and the official conclusion on this was originally supposed

to be given in may, but it was postponed and in fact they say that there was an oral report and uh, according to which, according to the raiders, ukraine fulfilled only two of the seven conditions, that is, if ukraine fulfilled all seven conditions, we would have a very powerful trump in order to talk with nato about the fact that ukraine answers to many the criteria is actively and dynamically doing homework there is another point. so when we talk about not giving an invitation, let 's remember that this is one of the important positions of the united states, which always and eve, which in this war are the direct and biggest to the allies of ukraine, and actually speaking, let's remember one important thing, when you were greeting the tv viewers

, you said to join where we were not disconnected, that 's what i want to say, let's remember , some time ago, the state department's statement on freedom of speech in ukraine and the need to resume broadcasting opposition channels, ukraine did not actually respond to this appeal. and when the state department applies, it means that the unofficial channels have already not worked and after that we have to hope that, as a matter of fact, they will some serious breakthroughs, uh, regarding the invitation to nato. it seems to me that ukraine needs to direct most of its work and activities to the formation of a clear step-by -step plan, which will clearly indicate step one step two step three step four and so on

, which we must carry out after that er nato actually determines er our progress and makes a political decision to make it a two-way street and er ukraine already went through such a mechanism when it got visa-free , let's remember that we were given almost 150 conditions that ukraine fulfilled even after that the european union granted a visa-free regime despite the fact that there was a migration crisis in the european union and so on, there were many conversations that they would not grant it, but when ukraine fulfilled all the conditions to preserve the political face of the european union, they were forced to make such a decision . and it is very important for ukraine that there was such a plan regarding membership in nato, that is, mr. oleksandr, i understand about this plan . tell me, please, the same plan should be given in brussels, and when will they give this plan

? that is, we are ready to implement it as you you say like it was with the membership in the european union. they told us that you should do that . you should do that. tour form reform, but our leaders of our country have repeatedly talked about it . we would like to hear some more and time frames. or is it possible to do as you say point one point two point 3 when when can it be? it is the ukrainian side that should emphasize and it's just an absolutely important moment to write down maybe even er time frames. that is, we carry out this step within a month, this one within two, and so on. in this way, we ourselves will set a time frame and er for let 's be, well, let's say this frank for

the european union for nato when there are no such strict criteria, they actually have room for maneuver . let's think about it. let's still reach a consensus, and that's why it seems to me that ukrainian diplomacy should do everything possible to get this plan. it is possible to propose and that on the basis of this plan, nato actually agreed or submitted its proposals, criteria, and it was approved already at this summit. because it seems to me that this very moment is much more real than receiving an invitation, and for this you need to work very seriously well, let's hope that we will work and let's hope that before that we ourselves will offer something to nato and we will move forward very much at least i would like to do that mr.

oleksandr, let's talk about one more event that took place last week, this is a conference on the restoration of ukraine, she was in the capital of great britain in london, there were many statements of support for ukraine. let us at least listen to two direct speeches from this conference . first, let's listen to the prime minister of great britain. investments in ukraine, removing one of the biggest barriers and giving investors the confidence needed to act with this and everything we do here, we send a message of our support on the battlefield and beyond will continue and the incredible spirit of ukraine will win, this is how the decision pike perch commented on the decision can allocate more than 3 billion dollars in ukraine for reconstruction well, let's see now let's listen to the secretary of state of the united states of america anthony

blinken, all these reforms and recovery efforts depend on whether ukraine will have the ability to defend itself against future russian attacks that's why even as we invest in immediate and long-term recovery we must also invest in a ukrainian military that is strong enough in order to protect the sovereignty of ukraine, there is territorial integrity and independence, so p oleksandr well, look at my subject, in my subjective opinion as just an international observer . you will say, well, actually speaking , this is, by the way, the conference is really any conference that concerns the restoration of ukraine, where the mechanisms are discussed, it is important, and this conference, in my opinion, very clearly showed

for ukraine that the restoration of ukraine is an investment and cannot be considered as a separate project from the project of european and euro-atlantic integration. moreover, last year it was announced that the creation of the rabil ukraine platform within the framework of the european union was created. integration of ukraine, in fact , many people are talking about the marshall plan for ukraine. so, the marshall plan, let's remember it for the simple reconstruction of germany after the second world war, this is a reformation and systemic deep and in fact is the reconstruction of the country and it is precisely in this that the west sees

the need for this help for them, the reconstruction of ukraine is not only physical, it is also political, in fact, with this money, ukraine has to become an integral part of european civilization, in fact, because, let's say it more correctly, legally because in fact, ukraine is part of europe and everyone already knew that, but legally we have to formalize it by stepping back to the european union and nato and we have to understand that these are absolutely united processes and separate from each other, they are simply they won't work, it's clear oleksandr well, one more thing, how many times have we moved closer to ukraine already on the territory of europe, yes . last week, the 11th package was approved, they finally

approved the 11th package of anti-russian sanctions, and it passed with such a creak that for a long time they could not agree on it, at first, then they could not convince some players there to enter the european arena, after all , they did agree, after all, they did approve it, but then ursula von der leyen , the president of the european commission, said that well, she said quite skeptically about that that we have come to a certain limit, the 12th package will be approved further, it will be very difficult to approve it, although the ministry of foreign affairs of poland said that they have already started work on this 12th package, so the question for you is whether the official brussels will be able to prepare the 12th package will still find leverage on some e-persons and in europe in some countries in order to convince them to adopt the 12th package because diamonds go there, the main thing will be a ban on the export of diamonds, and the

benelux countries are very stubborn about whether they will be able to somehow convince well, as one famous hero said, never is never wrong, and i want to remind you that when the seventh package of sessions was approved, just after the approval of the sixth package , they also declared to the european union that we had reached the limit. with a squeak, but they definitely said it finally because the discussion was very difficult , except for diamonds. by the way, i want to say that there is a reserve for the introduction of sanctions against rosatom , which actually helps the russian ministry of defense to circumvent sanctions, but there again after all, there are a lot of interests and a lot , including the nuclear security of the world, in order to overcome these problems, time is needed. but nevertheless, as far as the prospects are concerned, you know

, it seems to me that the trigger can be, for example, proving it in the legal field , that is, no simply as media reports, because now a lot of information is appearing about the fact that russia, er, let's not just say that they blew up the dam, in principle, they didn't talk about it from the very beginning, but there are objective er facts about the fact that she did it and this and the message about the fixation e explosion by norwegian nazi mustangs and data from american satellites and so on and so on and so on investigations of european and american mass media which know everything is increasingly narrowing down the circle of how it was done and i think when it will be possible to prove it, let it not be in court

and at least on the level of facts, we should ask the question about the continuation of these sanctions , including about diamonds and dew, because this is actually the use of weapons of mass destruction in ukraine, even without the use of tactical winter nuclear weapons and so on in terms of its consequences, it even exceeds the use of nuclear weapons, and actually speaking, one more step is to very clearly put pressure on russia regarding the situation in the soviet union, because after the dam was blown up, it is obvious that many in nato and the european union must understand that, well, actually, russia is capable of anything , and when russia retreats, it remains a completely burnt earth for

decades, and therefore there must be very clear criteria and requirements for russia, as was the case with the requirements of the proan for the use of nuclear weapons and and not only from the side of the eu and nato, but also from the side of asia, for example, china, which quite clearly made russia understand that it is not categorically against the use of nuclear weapons, alexander, well, let's ask you his last question about this beautiful circus tent. there last weekend, the day before yesterday, we can even say that we asked a question whether putin's position was shaky in a certain way , but in your professional opinion it was absolutely shaky , then he lost, then he left, then he lost in any case, but the fact that the beauty

in fact, he made his own march on moscow through a large number of regions and in the east in a few hours he captured one of the largest cities of russia , rostov-on-don, voronezh. actually , if we talk about what for what now it is similar to russia. we talked a lot that it is moving towards north korea, but you know what happened in russia, this is sudan in its purest form, there was the same situation with the establishment of a private military company that was integrated into the structure of the ministry of defense but refused her obey and because of the efforts of the ministry of defense to subdue this structure just as the mutiny began and the fact that an agreement was reached with the mastermind means only one thing that putin realized that he did not have the resources

to simply destroy the mutineers because from the russian point of view, they had to be destroyed, this means that he was not sure that he would hold moscow, and actually you know what happened in these cities, it was very reminiscent of the crimea in 2014, when then they called themselves polite people, and now the wagnerites called themselves khoroshie people who uses and so on and it can be said that the vertical of putin's power she showed her absolute ineffectiveness if it is necessary to protect the state and its citizens, she actually did not manage to stop and protect putin himself and this means that putin's power is not something absolute and

in fact, it seems to me that his foreign allies and the elite of russia will also get out of this. well, this is very, very good news for us. i would like to say one more important point that what consequences can come from this if prigozhin is released. we still do not know where he is but if he is released, it will be another, let's say, a repetition of the same situation, when basayev himself made a raid on anyone , took him to a hospital, took hostages, and then we released him, this led to the multiplication of terrorist attacks and russia surrendered 10 years after this is what they fought against, and if prigozhin succeeds, he got everything he wanted, then we can expect a repetition from the front, units will return, we know that dozens of them are deserting with weapons, and in fact such a march to moscow may

happen again, even prigozhin, god forbid let it be so oleksandr let it be so thank you for participating in the program thank you for your professional comments and answers to my question, this was oleksandr leonov , executive director of the penta applied research center well, according to the rules of television, we are forced to go for a short commercial, but a very short one so see you in a few minutes 20% in podorozhnyk pharmacies for you and savings there are discounts on nasal neosinus spray 20% in podorozhnyk pharmacies you and oschad there are cystitis medicines there are discounts on drops and capsules urolesan bye-bye cystitis for life hello 20% in podorozhnyk pharmacies you and save a long broadcast of vasyl zima. my name is vasyl zima. two hours of air time.