[000:00:00;00] if the band alcohol glasses didn't play today, where would you go, who would you listen to if it wasn't the band alcohol kuliil something somewhere, i would still play somewhere, i don't really imagine how it can be otherwise, what we think the daily music was successful and cool, the very fact that the music was playing and the audience was also listening, are there any other signs that the success of the music event is measured inside each visitor, musician, organizer of any venue, for someone it will be i don’t know the number of cocktails sold at the barium for someone it will be the number of friends he has saw which he hasn't seen for a long time, for someone it will just be a good mood, maybe for the first time in a while, a very, very individual thing

, your authorial activity is changing, what about you , other texts, now, different music, well, the group of alcohol was very contextually dependent, in principle, from the beginning, let's say socially- oriented because in fact it is probably more of a musical satire than music and selfies in our country, let's say during this war, in my opinion, there were twice as many ballads, they almost did not exist at all in the ukulele group, and here suddenly, well it is impossible not to react to the external world, we have all changed internally, not only the group of alcohol, we are not high art , we are decorative and as a household item, we definitely depend on the conditions in which we play, in which we sing our lyrics and our music, a little bit of arrangement, there is a set of songs, they change

even if we just come to another city to play because we think it should be different here or something. and when it comes to changes of a global scale for every ukrainian, well, it would be strange if music has not changed, of course we are reacting ukraine, a sovereign and independent state, we are making a small step forward in the struggle for independent ukraine, its territory is intact and inviolable, we must now and we will fight for it as much as we have the strength we the people are the only source

of power in ukraine, it was we who determined that the protection of the homeland its independence and territorial integrity is our main duty, that's why the territories should be played here again , the national anthem of ukraine will be heard because we love our land, rivers, lakes and the air of the country without limit. we will never forgive the enemy who cruelly destroys everything we love, we fight for ourselves, ukraine, the world, for equal rights, for respect, for freedom of thought and speech, our own future , because europe is our future. well, we all want to live in a modern civilized society

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forces of ukraine ihor osadchuk greetings you, mr. igor, when you joined the terro-defense forces on april 1, 22nd, i was already in the army, uh, i was the chief sergeant of the battalion, you actually started my second military service from that moment, why your homeland, what do you have motivated by the constitutional duty to every citizen of ukraine to protect their native land and i, to the bottom of my heart, i do not understand those people who try to hide in some way , go abroad, uh, i just don't understand when they will come back here, how they will feel, how they will look in people's eyes, did you go through training and what did it consist of? this training, actually, before that i already served with uh-e conscript service, the truth is that it was still in soviet times, but they say that

memory works, when such moments become acute, you subconsciously you are already reminding what was, of course, eh. in the current army and the soviet army - these are two big differences. if we are already going to nato standards, we are going to room standards, then the role of a sergeant in the army is changing somewhat, if it becomes more officers, in fact, now uhu in the nato army, they are managers, they head the unit, they provide the unit with all the necessities, and the main load, physical, moral, and psychological, rests on the sergeants, and i had to learn a lot compared to the russian army with the army from the nato countries and to which we are jumping, you are about to compare the zhiguli and the mercedes, that is , completely different classes, completely different approaches to and

leading the battle and military training and to moral and psychological training, these are two big differences in general, it’s just heaven and earth, only long training . and it’s constantly ongoing, it’s urban battles, we studied the tactics of urban gods, and we visited the training ground regularly , that is, shooting under-fire training was conducted. this is a process that cannot be stopped. if you have just started, that is all. but you are already starting to degrade. in which directions did you fight? if we are talking about the donetsk region, then we were in the area of ​​ugledar, that is, in that direction , such a well-known city, and in fact to velika novosilka and

we were there, too, that's where counteroffensive actions are going on now, where there is good news from the front, where our people are liberating populated areas and pushing the enemy away, what 's the worst thing for you in war, the worst thing is losing your comrades when you're with him talked today and see you tomorrow unfortunately, they report that he was killed or he was missing, this one is not scarier when you feel it. you hear on the radio that the one wounded or the one killed or the one disappeared is the most terrible thing in the war despite the costs we must continue to do do your job to protect the homeland, hold your position until the last drop of blood , as they say, and which battle on the front line was the most difficult for you , the most difficult battles, these were when ours held the defense in pavlivka. those two days were

the hardest, when the hours actually passed that one is wounded, that one, one of them is missing somewhere, well, there we had to provide help, bring ammunition, some food, raise a quadcopter there, see where, what is being done , it was the most difficult two days of my life, i think even in my whole life what i lived through, this was the most difficult thing, they are cowards are they really unmotivated, or do they really still have very old weapons , what is the nature of the war they are waging, the nature of the russian war, that is, they are stuck in the soviet union, in fact, if they change something, it is literally a single such case, basically their equipment is old soviet weaponry, which fortunately is not as accurate as the western models of weapons that we use now. the ukrainian

army uses it quite successfully, but it is impossible to say that they are all cowards. no , because it was in pavlovka that the 155th marine brigade fought against us. - there are quite professionally trained fighters , it was a very great experience for us, which we later summed up, well, if, analyzing the situation that took place, we made certain corrections in the training of the fighters, if they appeared quadcopters, they started dropping all kinds of munitions on the head there, they adopted the same method. we may have even developed it more if they were conducting reconnaissance there. they also improved it. that is , we could communicate directly with the artillery , and by adjusting the artillery fire, this is very important. why, why? that it saved, uh, i think

tens of lives, taking into account the fact that we did not allow them to walk and move there in peace , well, that is, they were constantly afraid of the fact that now something will come to them a gift from the ukrainian artillerymen, were there any interesting emotional stories that happened to you and your comrades at the front, it is very important even in war, this is a sense of humor, it must also be present . of course, it is a little specific. this is a military homer, but there were also such stories when soldiers convey that they they see a thermal imager of a group of infantry and the commander of a solid erotic says wait don't shoot i'll come now he looks at the thermal imagers and says well the group commander is standing scratching against the trees and the rest uh, a group is running around it, it was a pig with piglets, but in the thermal imager at night in general

, it is impossible to distinguish so clearly from a distance whether a group of infantry is really going maybe specific talismans, amulets, are there such things on the front line, the main amulet is now a fairy tale and a bulletproof vest, but if you have it in order, then put it on, then already a feeling of some kind of security appears , more or less, what else, apart from fear and shelling, do the fighters get used to it who are at the front, when the weather conditions change dramatically, when slurry appears in the trench, when they poured rain on your head constantly, and you know that you still have two days ahead of you, and you have to sit under this rain, despite the fact that

the shelling doesn't stop, you're sad at the front, it's not sad there, i'll tell you honestly, when you're on a daily basis, it happens one thing, really, after another , there's no time to be sad there, the days fly by extremely fast at home, you left your pet yourself, your dog, who 's left for her wife over daughter, but now on it's a pity it's such a time that the main nagruzka, well, in the household, according to the introduction of domestic life, everything falls on them, there is an opportunity to communicate with relatives, we communicate every day, but the truth is, she says all the time that when you are not asked, everything is always fine, that is, i don't want to transfer it to them such shoulders are on the shoulders of our women, the problems we have there, i can't ask you, because before the war, an ecologist, eh , that russia, by blowing up the kakhov hpp, eh, caused

huge damage, what damage is being done to the environment now, ecocide is happening, and it's like vinegar sent specifically to ukraine by russia. i hope that after the end of the war, the international courts will recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism and find them guilty of these crimes that they committed, and we will be able to collect environmental damages, including moral and psychological damages . which will have consequences not only for ukraine, but for all the countries of the black sea region, because the spread of infectious diseases is further due to the sudden desalination of water, which also affects the inhabitants of the sea uh, the fish were destroyed, the population centers were destroyed, uh, a lot of waste chemicals were washed

away, and so on, all this later, over time, of course , it will have a negative effect. and in your opinion , should ordinary russians be responsible for the fact that russia started the war if an average russian with his own hands supported his direct leader with his feet, voting for him in the elections, if their zonboyaschik arranged them, if they did not actually rise up against the beginning of this war, then they, like the leadership of the state, must bear the same responsibility as they incurred by the way, the germans after the end of the second world war, by the way, not all reparations and contributions have been paid yet. that is how they will be paying calculated contributions, reparations and payments to the ukrainian people for maybe 50 years and maybe even 100 years. you can see what

victory means for you, victory must to be glorious, that is, we must go to the border in the 91st year, we absolutely do not need foreign lands. perhaps, in the treaty that will be signed after the end of the war, it will be necessary to create some kind of demilitarized zone on the territory of russia for that they would even scratch their hands to throw something on our heads, even on our border villages and on our border. maybe we will become those people who will put an end to this historical dispute and forever end this russian influence on ukraine, i see that we we will become a developed european country, we will become a strong country, we will have one of the strongest armies in the world

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very difficult and it timed to the date when you , our viewers, will watch this conversation, the fourth of july is the day when ukraine in shinomo honors the memory of the children who died as a result of the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine. i understand that a lot vectors in this conversation and i understand that i have actually chosen a rather narrow one. i am aware of that and therefore i will mention it right away . moreover, i would like to concentrate today on what we can do for ourselves if we experience this loss and for others if we see that others i also want to say what to say. today i am not going to devalue any other losses . i am aware of the fact that losing a home, a goal in life, a job is also very painful

. but today we are talking about the loss of a child. my conversation with tetyana troshchynska and i wished that everyone, journalist, communications specialist, media manager, we spoke a little differently in a cultural instinct and today we will speak with her as the mother of 8 18-year-old son who died who, more precisely , died as a result of an illness and did not die at the front but he died in 18 days. i understand that it is difficult, but i am convinced that this experience will be useful for those who need it. no, i congratulate you . i congratulate you. thank you very much for agreeing to talk about it. i am the same. that ah, i am very afraid of such moments and so that i do not get the impression that this is some kind of building up of social capital at my own expense or the commercialization of this topic and so on , but when i started speaking well, i was a public person before my son died,

of course and i can't help talking about it because some part of my life is public and it's clear that i explain what i'm going through. i tell people about it, and when i started talking about it publicly in my voice, i reported it immediately the next morning, i wrote when taras died then a lot of people who don't have public platforms started writing to me. i always say that it sounds terribly cynical, but in the sense of having a platform, i probably have some kind of privilege because i can speak out loud about my grief, so many people actually started writing about what they lose loved ones, including children, which in fact i think is the most terrible loss and they feel that not all people are ready to talk to them about their grief, but it happens that they might want to talk. so, you know, i i would like to start this conversation by clarifying that i purposely clearly stated that you are

a communication specialist because that is the first thing that matters to me . since you and i are journalists here. interesting words, they were about people who were sexually abused, of course, and she told us as media and people who work in the media, it is very important to formulate such headlines in the media so that they do not discourage people from getting help from seeking this help, so how communicative are you? what can you say about how this topic is currently being communicated? we have been in this situation for a long time . we have been losing children for a long time. years i have been working as a trainer and researching sensitive communication, i know very well how to speak correctly, i talk about it at trainings

and so on, but nowadays and in this case, i have without a doubt conveyed that i am a mother. yes, i am a mother who lost a child and i cannot be in all in my life situations, i am an expert in the nation, the situation, and so on, you know, just the experience of my work and my life has taught me, perhaps, to be a bit less-or-less three, to be a little bit squeamish about some things, and i work a lot with audiences simply because of my profession, and there are moments when i just i can abstract and think, yes. this person did not want to offend me, and this person simply does not know how to formulate. yes, maybe she did not want to say anything bad, but different people react differently, and you know that the degree of their own reflections is completely different for all people and someone is not ready, like me, to step aside and say, and someone there reacts differently or there someone did not want to offend me here, it is very strange , in fact, the situation when in a country that

has been at war for the first time for the ninth year, it will soon be a year and a half and very hot phase of this war, with a huge number of losses, the topic of loss and the topic of grief is still taboo in our country, that is, i faced what people know, i am not judging here, please understand me correctly, sometimes it is better not to say anything than to say nothing, and that is why i sometimes encounter it very much many people in fact, they wrote to me about it in private, they started writing when i just frankly started talking about the experience of this grief, of course i can't share these stories because they are private, i can generalize a little bit like this . so there are moments when a lot of people have lost a lot of mothers children, for example, notice that people simply do not know how to approach them and do not approach them in order not to talk about this grief and perhaps a part would like to create because it often happens that you want to tell how beautiful your child was, how golden he was

how smart he was what he did what he said what memory he left behind himself how happy he made a huge number of people around him and such moments happen but no one asks it doesn't fit don't say more than that and there are moments when people just don't they want to talk about other people's grief because we are still a rather superstitious society and i have come across absolutely amazing things about how grief is contagious. i believe that happiness is different and i try to emphasize this. i would like happiness to be contagious and grief to be contagious. you know, separated grief is actually easier and it is also easier to experience, but there are these superstitions that you should not approach a mother who lost her son in the war because mine is still alive. whose child had cancer, like my taras, because, well, we also

have a clavicle, as my grandmother said, in fact, no , in fact, we understand that this will not happen, but these superstitions exist and in this way tribes are formed, it seems in the book i am like that such an expression is called a community of sorrow. so when people simply have to live in a state of this sorrow, who are you talking about? society is constantly here, and there is such a big problem that there are a lot of parents because, uh, it's one thing when older people leave. but that's a natural flow. life, so to speak. and we treat it somewhat differently. it is probably normal, it is a different thing when you lose a child and let's say when you are 40 or 45 or 50 and you can live two years and you can live another 40 years so what

should you do all these 40 years of walking as a ghost with my grief and being a non-socialized person . is there a way that everyone will look at you? look, tanya is gone, she lost her child, there is another very important unspoken topic for me. there is still some part of life ahead, but their children are gone. there is no longer what they should do next in their lives. this is a very deep topic. this is a very deep topic and unfortunately it is very much in demand now in our society. you are not a sociologist on this issue, but your thoughts are still why we still have mountains . but the riot, why does it happen that these superstitions are so popular in our country, why are we afraid of it? well, it's really not scientific. thank