[000:00:00;00] too many political statements have been made even around the question of ukraine's membership in nato, and these statements sometimes distract from the main lack of a decision by nato made by bucharest, it is not worth hammering that ukraine should become a member of the government, that is , the political substrative part of this decision, we have already passed it, now the question is when maybe from this point of view it is possible to interpret this statement of yesterday's macron as promising because the decision has already been made but it seems to me that in modern conditions when there is a war when ukraine in fact, de facto, it is very much an ally of nato and has to do it every day on the battlefield, it is unnecessary to politicize this issue, in my opinion

, well, let's say it does not contribute to this cause, because it is well understood by everyone, both the members of the alliance and those who cooperate it is very close to the alliance that some of ukraine is a member of ukraine today, how to arrange it politically, the summit is coming, and the leader of the nato member countries will have to be determined again, but it will be determined again when there is nothing to do, take ukraine as a member. from this point point of view, the statement of the french president should be considered, it seems to me that the position has not changed from what it was in bucharest when nato leaders made the decision to accept ukraine into nato and georgia is such a small island country, relatively small like taiwan, which is recognized by few in

the world but the united states constantly emphasizes that they are ready to fight for it in the event of a conflict with the largest other army in the world with china, and for ukraine membership in nato will mean that they will also be ready to fight for ukraine, including the united states, so what we need and why can't we now be the kind of country for which the united states is ready to fight? a nato member state is an attack on everyone, this is a defensive union

, a classic, modern, effective one, in fact , this fifth article has not been used so far during the entire existence of nato in the 49th year, because the very political formula that an attack is on one of the member states i will attack all uh-uh she in modern conditions, in the conditions of the fact that the most powerful nucleotide of nato and the military and economic ones, which is the united states, eh. somewhere, by consensus , you mean that american fighters will be on your side. states from uh well, let's say so, on the territory of nato member states, to make attempts of some uh aggressive action and this is precisely this element that was the driving factor why ukraine has been playing

door tricks for many years, it is exactly this uh hopes that our a member of nato and possible military assistance of the united states of america immediately it will turn away possible this is all from the stupid possible and the scenario that one of the neighbors can be reported we have already passed this already the neighbor attacked us we are already fighting we are fighting alone without the nato sign actually today and not only nato and other states, the so-called rammstein formula, they help in a terrible way, in an economic way, in a political way , in a humanitarian way.

of political history with formal membership, it is not so politically relevant in the context of the fact that russia has already attacked my personal opinion. today we are dealing with russia . the whole world has seen that russia is an aggressor. the whole world has seen that ukraine can surrender with the help of allies. how is it to formulate the question seems to me not for us now , this is a question precisely for the leaders of the state authorities who must find some formula that would satisfy the ukrainians today because it seems to me that the ball is on their side in this in the context of russia, there is such love. sobol is a political figure and a media person who supports such liberals and so on, maybe you have heard something about her, i honestly do not know much about them, but when there was this march in prigozhina, she wrote a very desperate tweet

at least i would have seen him on twitter about america over there, europe, help us now, because if russia starts to fall apart, you understand that china will come here and everything will be over, nevertheless, you know, as you know, the mouth of a child is telling the truth, so to speak are there really great fears and cautions? such an approach to the ukrainian victory, which should not become the collapse of russia , was launched by the biden cabinet from the very beginning , and they seem to continue to adhere to this policy of the attrition game. it is not currently the type that prevails in e-paid offices in key nato countries, we can only think of making a whole series of assumptions, but let's not

forget one simple hmm undeniable fact the victims of aggression are one country, ukraine, for today, besides, i sacrifice the aggression of this aggressor, there were victims of other countries, you can count them up to two dozen there, it is not taken for the last 70 years, but today this fact exists, remember chikenkiv sich, the former senior in kyiv in 1989, this is what is it? great politics, geopolitics. and there was another current. and there was another current in the same year or the next, i don't remember. but they also said that we will not open an embassy in california and

you will not have an embassy in kyiv. oh for so that in the offices that are heating up, these big decisions finally matured, an understanding of the situation today is needed, practical, practical, uh, this kind of work is shown, uh, where are you moving today, world security? it seems to me what is happening in ukraine. i don't want to talk about geopolitics, about chaos, about our east central europe, which is a geopolitical center , is traditionally a german philosophy. but it seems to me that today, what are the opinions of washingtonians in various offices in europe in the main capitals today? uh, considering what i wrote very aptly today, the fabric of history is what it is doing here, it is being done by the armed forces of ukraine, and they want the offices, they don’t want to, they will be forced to adapt to uh and draw some conclusions and make appropriate decisions because history does

it's here today, and er, clearly indicate that hmm , let's say the office of the modern er, american president joseph babaine, but he took a course for exhaustion, i wouldn't say so, er, i would take into account that, unlike many others well, the loudspeakers of the political world are chained to every word and every comma of what the president of the united states of america says .

-e look at it as if last week i think for the first time i heard from one of the western well not the leaders, but the leading managers of the german foreign affairs, it seems to me that the wishes of ukraine for germany will be with her until victory, this word victory for the first time in to the western world, it was from the german lips that it sounded, and i think this is a very positive and powerful sign that sooner or later , after all, western cabinets will realize the realities of today and draw the appropriate conclusions. there will not be such a virtual situation that article 5 of the washington treaty may be involved in an attack on one and an attack on us, but all the resources that

are considered possible and expedient at this time on the part of our western and other allies who can be provided in ukraine, they will be provided because i will give you the opinion that so much has already been invested today. in itself, it seems to me to be a very powerful political mutual, what will the world look like after the defeat of russia, this is a question that, unfortunately, there is no answer today. and this is exactly what i think explains a certain such uh, well , from our point of view, political correctness in the statements of the leaders of our leading allies is superfluous finally, i want to touch on the topic of viktor orbán , the prime minister of hungary for three minutes, who once again made several very

provocative statements, even saying that ukraine does not have sovereignty because it is governed by a whole bunch of people, and again there is a set of things that ukraine cannot win and so on. well, this is all in a heap with this very strange transfer of ukrainian prisoners and their detention to hungary . how should we generally react to all these hungarian escapades? whether or not that's enough. well, let's just say that i will not answer diplomatically, it is becoming more and more clear that the condition of those countries that support us . are these countries a wall

? but it seems to me that it is very characteristic of the fact that the next escapades of the hungarian prime minister were made public when you mentioned the last name. at the beginning of the great war, i went out and listened to what their fuhrer was saying. i really listened to him to understand what was going on and understood that he was scared. it’s easy to see that he was scared . and a couple of days later, orbany comes in again . he’s bringing some kind of blizzard. i apologize for the diplomatic saying it seems to me that the task of the hungarian prime minister is precisely to evoke negative emotions in us and to try to provoke a quarrel with the hungarians and us

in no way. it seems to me that we should succumb to this. write to show the huyska, but the seventh reaction seems absolutely unnecessary to me, because it is just provoking . the most important and unnecessary political battles around the hungarian topic today in ukraine - this is the last thing we need, it seems to me, therefore, from this point of view, i would approach these e-e statements of this figure, whom i remember for 25 years, when he was still a young prime minister yerom e-e and from soros

once upon a time, i received money, well, the evolution of political figures, they, they, this example, unfortunately, shows that today it is not so uh, it is still light and smooth if we wanted it well, but we live with this we have much more important work than this finally, i will briefly ask about blinky's visit to china. can we say now that the statement, not the statement, of the words of the chinese ambassador to the european union, who said that china is not opposed to ukraine returning crimea, was interesting at once was very optimistic the western media are talking about china supporting the return of crimea to ukraine. can these really be the results of blinky’s visit? i don’t know china’s position regarding moscow’s recognition of putin’s weakness after this march on prigozhina’s brain. are these just the words of a diplomat and you should not pay too

much attention to this, you know, uh, in english , it sounds uh, a disputed phone, could the chinese chief understand what beijing means on such possible issues, it should have some time to finally understand it but it seems to me that there is one very powerful sign from this visit of binkina , we can already realize today that this is what i said when answering the previous question, i will look like the world after russia, this is the question that today after ukraine will win this issue that they are afraid to voice but cannot think there is the point of view of orban , for example, but it is not typical

of serious world figures . architecture on the site of the entire ruin of which political party and what to do with it because it leads to a lot of political moments what is the un today what is it a lot of questions that today have no answers what and it is from this point i think we have to draw conclusions on blinkin's visit to china and the statements of the chinese. thank you for your expert comments. ihor kharchenko, diplomat , extraordinary powers, ambassador of ukraine in many countries, in fact, not only great britain, but britain in particular from the fifth to the 10th year thank you for the conversation well, our next interlocutor is rasi yuhnavichi na, a member of the european parliament, a lithuanian

politician and former minister of defense of the republic of lithuania. we are not communicating through a translator right now, yes, okay, and in that case, i want to start with the fact that lithuania is calling on nato to protect or strengthen border protection with belarus, did the lithuanian republic take this idea so seriously the story with the one who may go there with his own private army or he can pose a threat to lithuania that we

can in a certain sense is weak but to be afraid i believe that prigozhin received an invitation from lukashenka to come . let's see how this scenario unfolds, but really, when i follow the events of kremlin propaganda and all these liars from putin's entourage, they are really afraid they are horrified, now, in particular, it is about the actions of a parishioner, and they are now appealing to their a-ah domestic clarification to their people, i am like a-- beautiful as not a bigger traitor and those who

support them, they are really bigger traitors than ukrainians than nato and all the rest is why i don't think there is any added value for russia or belarus to attack us. we are preparing for all possible scenarios and continue to do so. and now, within the framework of the current reality, using our resources and strengthening our potential the situation is under the control of ms. yukhnyavichna, we now hear a lot of anxiety about the pace of ukrainian on the fronts and we also often, well, we have today an explanation from our military and experts who say that ukraine is carrying out this offensive without having a serious advantage on the ground and having

a much weaker there is no position in the air and what makes this offensive very difficult is that we very often hear and read in the western media that the further support of ukraine , for example with weapons, or the temptation will arise, will depend on the success or failure of this offensive to try to persuade ukraine to give up the already occupied territories in exchange for at least a shaky but peace. what do you think about this? how much does this threat exist and what will be lithuania's position on the actions of the armed forces of ukraine on the battlefield ? of course, experts outside ukraine and in ukraine it is really fresh that it depends

on the expectation if someone is expecting what will be a certain blockbuster war movie where everyone quickly switches to contour when it succeeds everything happens but it is not ethereal it is reality we continue to trust the leadership of ukraine they a they say that they behave quite cautiously, we fully understand what the enemy's advantage in the air really is, and really the task is not an easy one to push back the enemy's armed forces , they are now er-er powerfully fortified in their defensive positions, so we we have to be patient and we will see how it will be the result, of course, now there is a certain problem with the supply of weapons, so the west supplies ukraine with a lot of military

support, but this is not enough to carry out an effective counteroffensive , the ukrainians need significantly more. they need long-range artillery, and they need fighter jets and so on, so i will remind you that after saturday, when this epic a-a moment happened, i think it became even more clear that we must be vigilant and also squeeze out as much as we can in order to help to the ukrainian armed forces, because putin is certainly not as strong as anyone ever expected, he is weak, he has no support, and you can see

what will happen to him in the country, we did not expect this, but everything is going against the russian propaganda, and that is why it seems to me that we have now entered the second phase of the collapse of the soviet union, the first wave of which occurred 30 years ago, but now, in fact, this is also a country that is an imperial colony and that has hit the wall of bravery of ukrainians in the ukrainian military, ukrainian citizens and precisely that's why i believe that russia is now going through the second stage of its voting and therefore keeping the proper tempo at the forefront is the only way to help uh natop or nato helped ukraine to win and also to destroy the russians if well and we are also waiting for the good ones

signs for us at the summit in freedom and we are confident that we have no doubt that support from our lithuanian friends will definitely be there mrs. rasa from thank you very much for this conversation with us , in fact, yubnyaevichna rasa, a member of the european parliament and former minister of defense of the republic of lithuania, is here for us. in fact, everything friends, but the marathon continues well , we will see you the very next morning at seven o'clock project partner healthy eyes glaufix glaufix protection and maintenance of your visual acuity sense of vision deterioration discomfort in the eyes, sensitivity to bright light, these are possible

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