[000:00:00;00] maybe the offensive actions of the defense forces, what do you think about it, well, of course, i feel sorry for my time and your time and the time of our viewers, that we are forced to so carefully understand the varieties of russian crap, but to be honest , it really affects the situation at the front and the situation inside our countries, so we have to. i agree with mr. colonel mr. charnyk that we do not know for sure what happened, since the main source of information we draw from russian sources is either the statement of prigozhin himself or the statements of the russian dictator putin or the statements of other officials of russian scoundrels and until the end it's like a struggle of bulldogs under the carpet, we don't know what's happening, in fact, we only see the final consequences of this but again, everything to prevent this from happening is to weaken russian power, to weaken the coordination of command links of military administration, whether legal or illegal. since we know

that wagner has not yet been introduced into the legislative legal field of russia and these fantastic statements are simply a sequence of these statements that wagner belongs to the russian army, then he is not it belongs to them, they communicate in some way, so they don’t coordinate their work in the end, this statement by putin that it turns out that he has almost 100 billion rubles of russian taxpayers in his ears, it should be called that, it’s a fantastic statement, whatever - what to another country? well, i can imagine what would happen in ukraine if such a statement came from the mouth of any president of ukraine, but in russia it was swallowed by many other things , but this situation definitely weakens the russian troops, including on line of a combat clash, at least in that it increases their confusion, ah, that's why, well, we have to pay attention to this , it's also clear that this is only the beginning, it's only as

it seems. i hope it will end in great confusion, as it always happens in russia, with a big merciless er , senseless not merciless russian riot, i sincerely wish every russian a civil war in their home in their home because war is always scary our war with er war for liberation is difficult but the most difficult the worst thing that can happen in the world is a civil war i sincerely wish every russian to feel the consequences of the civil war in their homes it will be absolutely deserved karma for them just one phrase i wanted to say two weeks after at the beginning of the russian-ukrainian war, when it was obvious that a blitzkrieg would take place, a well-known article was written by our well-known lviv scientist hrytsak, who said that in russia there are actually two chances, this is the chance of disintegration according to the scenario of the soviet union in 1991 and this

the chance of disintegration according to the scenario of 1917 is here. i agree with viktor now there is no chance of disintegration in 1991. it was a chance, this will be the disintegration of 1917, where these private companies in cities in regions where everyone will have everyone against everyone and they deserved it now well, given that you are, so to speak, an internationally oriented politician who knows international affairs, we are all expecting nato in vinnytsia, and so am i, in the context of all the events we are talking about. for a very long time, we have been asking our western partners to give us more weapons are better weapons and they gradually gradually got better weapons, but in the beginning, well, it's not a secret, many nato member countries are afraid of the russian federation because they have nuclear weapons, and we are on the territory of ukraine more than once demonstrated that there is no one to be afraid of, and these events before that very many people said that they would be very decisive and it would seem that the russians tried and carried out multiple missile strikes

in order to intimidate nato, they blew up the kakhova hpp. now, unfortunately, we say about the fact that the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was mined , at the same time the whole world saw the helplessness of the russian federation in its own territory. do you think that nato in freedom will be inspired to take some new, more decisive steps ? the jokes that they have now are spreading in social networks and it is the same with us that 20 is the first year when russia continues to convince the world that it is the second army in the world . it is 2022 and everyone sees that russia is the second army in the world even without blinky points in ukraine, and the year 2023 is the russian army, the second in russia, so it is important to show all these slovakians, this is the german delegation. why because you are helping the army, this main volunteer of the t-shirt-menka received an award from the ground

forces for too much help, which he does not always advertise until the end because it is fire trucks are fast cars, well, fast, for example, for the first tmo, an ambulance for €130,000. these are such free gifts are important, these are large delegations of 30-40 volumes of humanitarian cargo, but what else is important, you are right notice that these events have shown that not everything is good, that these are weak sides, that these weak sides absolutely convince european politicians, or will they sit down at the negotiating table as a conditional winner of this counteroffensive, because this is their exact counteroffensive, which looks like it has begun, but not where he should have been, that's probably why all these formats, if you follow the statement that kalash and jensas stoltenberg were, that they are just preparing formats, how to submit them correctly, so that some skeptics are still before the introduction

ukraine in nato had arguments. well, you know that there is a statement by hungary that it is pushing back and postponing the entry of sweden, which actually shows that it is possible even with one package, ukraine and sweden will enter and join nato. the status disappears, what in europe, what in nato, why, because it is really a russian proxy, which does not do anything good at all, it cannot jump off the kremlin’s needle , but the kremlin is also running out of funds, because in fact, when they talk about the the handsome man shouted, hand over the weapon, yes, in fact, he had it, he was hoarding it, that is, imagine how much there is a difference between words and actions , the picture does not match the sound, but this is a process that we understand later and understand them later, so it is a pity that it was not longer, more would have been executed and destroyed what is quantitative for us is an indicator at the end which is important for us and in fact we have to understand that we are moving in the right direction and ukraine and probably the ukrainian army is 200% ready for that

to join nato there are questions and certain internal of the reform of the judicial reform because there is a question the fact that we have some kind of homework, even from the point of view, for a year we have been talking about the fact that we have become a candidate for nato, what is democracy, what is it, let's say that the european union is the standards of democracy - these are procedures that last for a long time and they undergo certain coordination , clarification of the work, that is, the bureaucracy is still capable and stronger than even in ukraine, we have a lot of everything that is happening now almost immediately, now the meeting of the supreme council and we are not discussing this to the end, but this process is ongoing. as far as i know, 47 laws have been adopted today . that is, it is for the speed of decision-making by the parliament very quickly, therefore , in fact, you were right here, it is very important not to stop and wait for what will something happen again or not will it work every day in reality it would be better to fight with drones as our friends say than to fight with

people and we need a lot of drones amplifiers antennas and everything else and it seems to me that there are no people who care about this was engaged regardless of his status and what he is doing now and that is, the format because how our neighbors look at us i also expect real decisions necessary for us, decisions , not signals, not imaginary, not a framework, not rules, decisions , decisions that today ukraine very much deserves, even with from the point of view of understanding the whole inadequacy of russia, but the pancharnik says it, and it is still unknown in which direction all these horror stories of theirs , which they often mention, have rusted, although looking at the hydroelectric power plant that they blew up, we understand that the zaporizhzhia atom was mined power plant this i will tell you frankly that the most important thing is when some information appears there friends ask to spread it we are trying to all journalists world friends volunteers from other countries what do they call themselves but work a lot in ukraine to spread this information so that they understand the threat and in fact there are those cases that will affect not

only different countries, which in the system and in general the security architecture is the main ukraine, yes , the western flank, the eastern flank of nato. in fact, for european countries, any other very terrible things will happen in ukraine for them, the distant consequences are also negative and they understand this very well . i hope, who is yours, who once helped us get a visa free together with andrzej klejenko , today we have the prime minister of estonia, he is the prime minister of croatia - there is such a story that she can become a student immediately after jens stautenberg. i think that this format would be very desirable for her to apply herself to it. and having been in this position for a while, administering all these processes, we became members of nato, there is no alternative, and this the only security system which in the future, we are guaranteed time to concentrate our forces, that is, there is a chance that, theoretically, together with the swedes, we can become a member. see, as of now, but it

made hungary such an incomprehensible thing, which had no right to do it at all. the company is there and through our network, an event of social interests, what do you need to do, or ukraine was the 33rd member of nato, i will tell you frankly , when we did the event and in khm, just in kmda in kyiv, vitaliy klitschko hosted us - i remember how it came instead there are two eight of the announced ambassadors came, all of them, the entire plan , the eastern flank of nato, all of them came to the kmda to talk to the children, students, who we are there for the third year in a row, are ready and mr. petro prepares lectures for them, that is, we take such very cool experts who try to prepare people for this decision and look at another very important statistic about the fact that already in russia today it is made public on all our publics and the internet that 54% want peace negotiations and want the war to stop, that is, when it starts to touch

after all this, the pvc weighs another thing, they realized that after all it is probably better not to fight, and before that there was no such thing, support for the war in russia against ukraine was 80 out of 80%, that is, it is already 30% in such a short period of time, that is, we understand that moods in greece are also changing, and this process may be slow, but it has started , no matter what, let's connect to us via skype, mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine , european solidarity, we congratulate you, mr. mykola, glory to ukraine, we know that today the ukrainian parliament met, we also received important decisions, in particular, again, it was about the moscow patriarchate, the russian orthodox church in ukraine, which they finally want to ban by law, but as far as we understand , it still does not work, what is the situation, but i think that you are an optimist, like the majority of 80% of ukrainian citizens who believe that the russian church in the activity should also be banned in ukraine

. unfortunately, the parliament is not broadcast now and journalists cannot see it, and there are no cameras on the balcony to show what is happening. our faction just demanded to put it on the agenda. draft laws prohibiting the activities of the rpc in ukraine, but most of them do not pass them anyway, because they do not have the votes for it, and we made a statement on this matter. it went to the tribune. i read this statement . you can see this statement already today. a huge achievement, what a first in the 10th year of the war, in 32 years of independence, everyone saw that they prayed for mazepa in the army, she is still a shrine, while the muscovites pamper themselves there absolutely freely, just like in pochaev, we see what is happening in khmelnytskyi even on in the lviv region, where are there problems with the moscow patriarchate when it is absolutely weak

, it does not actually work at all, it is not brought into the hall at the lyceum, our weak law 8221, which prohibits the activity of the russian church in ukraine, is not even considered and there are no votes for it. so what is this a huge problem and our faction demanded that this happen tomorrow , as far as i know, we took a break together with the voice of tomorrow faction , they will demand this, that is, there are some units of patriotic forces that demand this, but unfortunately we are still in the minority a please tell me, if we are talking about the whole parliament in general, here are the various political forces that are in it. and who is speaking? well, i understand that now it is probably quite difficult to publicly advocate for the moscow patriarchate , it will be quite difficult in ukraine, but it is possible that there are such we don't see the broadcast, but who is speaking inside the parliament ? is it all somehow hush-hush, as if everyone is against it, and when it comes to a conditional vote

, there are enough votes, well, look again on december 1, the nsdc made a decision to submit the government draft i i'm not even talking about ours, and the president supports it, but the majority of the servants of the people, er, not the servants of the people, are not ready to vote for it, a large part is ready. i think that the majority is just small, with a small, with a small advantage, ready, but there are not enough votes and they are afraid that the project will not be supported because of them, and that is why their representatives at the conciliation council say that let's adopt something that unites society so that now we are not fighting among ourselves here, although it is precisely the activity of the church that divides our society the most, because it an enemy organization inside ukraine, well, it is precisely european to vote for it, i think the vote will vote for it, part of the faction for the future is not convinced that everyone but it is possible that there is some, even the majority of the trust, part of the homeland, i do not think that everyone will vote, and if

there will still be a part of the servants, it may happen that even this weak government project will not pass, and it is weak because this church will be banned for three years, these agreements will be dragged out as lavri is now. unfortunately we have problems with communication with mr. mykola, it actually looks very sad because despite everything that the russian federation continues to do and what we are watching and we talk a lot on the air today about the fact that this is such an active phase of their disintegration, no matter how much it is it lasted, it may really take years, it still started and we are watching it, but here in ukraine we somehow try to hold on to these hands or legs or tentacles of this moscow patriarchy , i don’t know what to call it, but something is definitely unhealthy question let's move on to another topic, because we talked a lot about the moscow patriarchate, we only expect that it will be banned at the legislative level by a willful decision of the authorities, and very briefly, you know, if any of the deputies

has doubts, there are millions of different videos, and you can even take them from the pochaiv lavra, where the half- crazy grandmother said that it's not putin sending us rockets. and what is the abbess of moscow ? you all remember this video when she said that god is punishing ukraine by sending some of his arrows, that's what the moscow patriarchate carries within our country, the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is also something that is of interest to everyone now and everyone is really afraid of it, because it is difficult to imagine the scale of what could happen today, we asked the representative of the gur, mr. yusov, what information they have. really explosives and that's all the danger , i want to ask you about the conditions under which the russian federation can resort to the fact that they will start this plot there, well, set fire to blow up, as it is called properly

, blowing up the dam in kakhovka shows that it can to be such a ghost that cannot be understood from the point of view of common sense, but the fact remains that our adversary has a very specific way of thinking, and in the example you can draw a lot from the tv series in chernobaivka, everyone thought outside 23 times in one place , we deployed forces and means, we destroyed them, but they they probably operated there because that point of no return is in their psychology. i don’t know for sure, but a few words about the nuclear power plant, if i really am not energy , but somewhere out of the general scientific analysis, i came to my own few conclusions, first of all, it is incredibly difficult to blow up the casing of the power plant itself, that is, the rector himself, and having built it with the calculation that if there is a nuclear war, then so that it can withstand even a direct hit nuclear missile, it is built in such a way that if it melts, it does not explode, but flows down under the reactor for sure it is necessary to have a very precise engineering idea at which

points to place the explosives so that it explodes according to the principle of how the tractor exploded in chernobyl, and here the most important nuance of a classic nuclear explosion will not be because a classic nuclear explosion involves several methods of damage. the first is light radiation, an electromagnetic pulse that shuts down all electricity and all electronics in a certain area, and the most powerful part of a nuclear weapon is the so-called shock wave of these three. there will be no fourth radioactive contamination if they are on it will go, and there are also nuances here, if this explosion happens, it will happen upwards and it will depend a lot. at what time and what will be the direction of the winds. where? that's all, all this dust all these radioactive remnants where are they going and most importantly we survived chernobyl it was very painful very painful at least 120,000 people died from

radioactive radiation but we did survive it and if the enemy takes such a step we are tired that it will no longer be only a ukrainian problem it will be the first terrorist act with a nuclear coefficient has been created, and it is actually very serious. and here the answers our forced partners will give are much more serious than just concern , because if this is not done, the world may boil over such a way that is hard to imagine, let's add to our conversation oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine. thank you for taking the time. we didn't announce your level because we didn't know until the last moment whether this opportunity would be for you. it's great that it will arise, mr. oleksiy, first question er, now we have started talking about a possible terrorist act at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, the whole world is thinking about it, the whole

world is talking about it, the whole civilized world is hoping, i am thinking about how to prevent it what is the current situation? how close are the russian terrorists to creating this catastrophe? congratulations, having such a crazy neighbor next to you means that you and i can at any moment receive such gifts from him in quotation marks, they will not perechin, they will not stop because that for them human life has no value and this is a big problem not only for our country, it is a problem for this country that considers itself civilized, and the sooner we will stop this abomination with joint efforts, the better will be to the world because if what we are talking about today really happens, we emphasize, well, it is not even red, there is some kind of line, it will generally

go beyond certain certain limits of understanding in which world we live with you and it happened to the end or in what way it is happening affected the russian army in general, the army of our enemy, and what further consequences this may have. how do you assess them, what concerns the army of our enemy, which is located on our territory, today we do not see a big impact, it is not a question at all in a different way, the whole world saw that russia is an absolutely uncontrolled country in which there is no power, there is no putin, and no one obeys him. so this is a big problem for the world, any terrorist group, i apologize to hell on the territory of russia, like every one there

the group has its leader who does not obey the ministry of defense or the army itself, there are at least 7 of them on the territory of russia, everyone acts in the way he considers necessary, once again , you do not obey anyone, not obeying and capturing any objects with nuclear weapons an arsenal in russia can become any day at any time of the day because it is a complete mess there. as you can see, this is a big problem for the world. he has to pay attention to it starting from february of last year. this is how the series began. explained to all our western partners that russia is a country that no one will be able to control after a certain period of time, but if they became close, if they bought our country very quickly, that was one situation, now it is a completely different situation, we

mean that it is very, very dangerous this scares our partners. therefore, they have no question of what to do with russia, unfortunately, until now, but i will only emphasize the events that took place on friday, saturday, and sunday. he saw that there was no king, that he was completely naked. a dangerous situation and a question when within the limits of the judicial coxes will start fighting for the chair of the russian er-er, the alleged emperor , this is a question only time or groups will start a competition between themselves, precisely with the use of weapons , there will be no democratic elections, no democrats in russia again i emphasize. this was a complete complete renewal of putin among all the people he counted on. the fact is that after such events begin in the country , the security and defense council must be assembled for a few minutes. this is when the active phase began in our country on february 24. already at 5:30 a.m. in

the office of our president to hold a meeting of our corresponding ukrainian council, this says that a huge number of people who are in the closest circle of putin are taking part in this process. so what is this he has already got the situation under control . mykola buchn has a question for you. mr. danilov. good evening . russia may cease to exist in its current status and within its current territorial framework and in the context of the current if the second question is if we will say go to our final victory and this will threaten the disintegration of russia, could there not be such an option that our international the partners will stop us in this and possibly prevent this disintegration, let's hear all your opinion on this matter, come on, well, from

the second part of your question, nothing can stop us, and here the opinion of the partners can, of course, be possible, but it will not be a decisive decisive vote of our people, we need to liberate all our territories , including crimea, and put an end to this question. are our western partners ready for the fragmentation of russia? no, they are not ready. it was they who determined that russia has a monopoly on nuclear weapons, a monopoly on all processes that take place in this space, which was invented artificially under the name of the cis. so now we have huge problems with those wrong decisions that were once made in the west, this is a huge problem it is necessary to talk about it and explain it. that is, we will never return to the russian yoke, so we will throw off this yoke once and for all and be independent of independent

ukraine, so there is a big problem precisely with the fact that the west does not understand what to do with russia if they they believe that it can be made into some kind of democratic, some other, that's all, history has repeatedly proven that the project is impossible, that's the only thing that i think needs to be insisted on, which needs to be dealt with. a country that does not control its territory, having a huge number of nuclear warheads on its territory - this is very dangerous for everyone , for this world, for all civilized countries , and the invitation to nato in two weeks will be the very vilnius to which we really all we expect to watch him, mr. danilov, in the context of the events

that are happening in russia at the moment. has our position there changed in any way, and can something so positive and cardinal be offered to us there? we are more unsure that the church should take place because it is about justice and first of all, all this is about values, i want to remind you that when nato was created in 1949, it was created to protect democracy, to fight against tyranny , and with other things that today smell and smell, as they say in russia and our place is right there and freedom must be made such decisions that must definitely not be the same as they were in budapest. so when the signatures of the presidents of respectable countries were there, who, to their great regret, later said that it was well , no, not exactly what we are in now, the situation is more expedient, we will to insist, and now a lot of our representatives are working

so that it is precisely in such courses that a meeting of regulate when we will be members of this community. i believe that our society is ready. i believe that our armed forces are ready . so, if anyone has any questions, we are ready to answer them. and, moreover , these answers will be absolutely sincere. so, eh and when some artificial things are invented, they start to talk about some events that supposedly have a bridge in our country, let's understand together what we are talking about and solve this issue together, then we are talking about corruption right now, look, if we have corruption, then everyone where are these corrupt people located, where is it located outside our borders, where does monaco go, other countries, yes, they keep your money

, keep accounts, give us these accounts, give us all the corrupt people , we will quickly put a patch on this issue , so it turns out that they are allegedly engaged in corruption here, here are the accounts yachts and the rest are there, so let's be sincere together, let's not do double standards, let's put an end once and for all to the corruption that they constantly talk about. what about our society? ready to be a member of the european community and the nato community, and believe us, you have something to contribute to us, we have something to add here, and for sure from our country it will be a seven strong institution, this will be an institution that will definitely be able to stand up for itself and repel any aggressor in the event the occurrence of one or another force majeure is interesting, psmilka has a question, mr. denylo, good evening. please tell me, i have such an interesting question, we understand that there are no moral and ethical

principles. i don't even want to allow such a thought in the case of the road to the gas station. if this happens, god forbid, of course, what actions and decisions are our partners, the western partners, ready to take and how will they react? i understand that there will be meetings without the un, but i am sure what is this scenario? it has already been discussed with us between the states, but in what way, what actions will our partners take in this case, it is up to us to dictate the decisions of the un if there, russia has the right of veto, but in the institution, which is absolute content, which is not for nothing. answers so it's already on the decision that no one implements and bears no responsibility for it, so they can meet at least 10 times, then the un should worry, worry that they still know how to do it there