[000:00:00;00] the private sector also showed loyalty, because the private sector can still sue the russian federation, well, let's say that in mariupol, two destroyed plants can be sued separately. by the way, since the 14th year, we have precedents. for example, in the crimea and they won it here, that is, the practice is in principle when the territory is occupied and in relation to the russian federation , so everything is not so good here, in reality, its judicial practice is bad, and on the part of private companies , they just sued in gas, if i am not mistaken this was the history of both a separate and a state structure , the commercial savings bank, if i'm not mistaken, it was sued at the time from the russian federation, but here another question is the execution of that money. before that, understand that ukraine should not know

, think, listen to what they have to say, there is no mechanism, i assure you, when you start to put a lot of pressure, even western governments suddenly begin to change their point of view and suddenly become favorable, you can use various er, you know, such not er, not very legal techniques, for example, to hint that why , for example, in asia , the russian elite will only sit. and that the european elite was not complicit in this, for example, the germans, who actually contributed to the fact that everything happened and i know you, the prospect of getting jailed and getting gassed can also be strong, you know, so to speak, as in such cases . shamed us, you know what we have in relation to russia, we don't have very many politicians, but in relation to western countries, we sometimes

have such special europeans, you don't have to ask them, let's be honest, for three days they persuaded ukraine to surrender immediately, and for three months they still wrote a very plan the territory was visited by macron, something dear and still still. this is exactly zelenskyi. zelenskyi was rightly taken by the skin there and taken to bucha . they showed everything that they looked at. it is clear that we could not leave and we had to help ukraine . how far is there in this logic a related question sanctions against russia and the question of reparations to ukraine are not related things, because they are sanctions, the main task of sanctions is to reduce russia's ability to engage in aggression in the first place and prevent this in the future. well, now the ira, for example, is under sanctions.

the rank somehow lives, well, it lives by sanctions, it sells oil there, but they can no longer carry out such a large-scale aggression , they can support there , let them fire at israel from a ball in southern lebanon , for example , the gaza strip or something else, but they can carry out such a large-scale aggression they can't wage a war, for example, how was the iran-iraq war , it lasted there for three years in the 80s, and so on. they can't. that's the task, the strategic task of the west now is to ensure that security is established and until they are convinced that security will be permanent, then the sanctions will most likely be very reluctant to be removed, primarily this concerns the air defense sector, that is, they will achieve that the maximum weakened machine will lag behind for a long time, including from western weapons , in order to always have guarantees that russia will not will be able to carry out such aggression in the future, but this does not mean that ukraine

should also ride because we must understand that our weapons are the guarantor of our security , that is, we must, our people of ukraine must demand that we have a proper anti-aircraft missile system because, as you know, we as, as you know, as with weapons, weapons, and everyone gives, you know, there is a nuance in that anecdote . but if you want to also use it on the territory of the russian federation, he tells himself , and that is why the actual use of weapons is more than weapons, the actual weapons that will allow us to observe, including security, including carrying out attacks, for example, on the territory of the russian federation , that is why we must understand the people of ukraine . to give opportunities to private manufacturers if there is a need to finally destroy ukroboronprom , which

was created by a bureaucratic structure in the 10th year not to produce weapons, but to embezzle weapons, so well, no you need korostylovok, the right to life, as it were, well, i believe you know what it is. dead bees don't buzz, what is called, why is it quiet , well, well, hope, well, korostylov, to the producer of the cable, which alders produce neptunes , eh, he hums. well, he doesn't need instructions, who a- and how to do it, he himself perfectly understands, it is the ministry of defense, it is the customer, it conducts this tender and it does this independently, by the way, you don’t need these gaskets, well, it doesn’t work, unfortunately, but how is this, uh, if it were an armory , or uh, military industry and ukrainian er, he will be able to advance our issue of reparations, and here is the next question, as if quoting al capone again. with a good word, we use a gun, you

always achieve what a good word is. there are free russia, not free there, yes. but they say it’s yours, they go there , we don’t know who goes there, well, we don’t know, well, try to cope, well, the weapons are going, but you know, there is such a nuance if you write what is needed, these are us let's talk with these people, we'll find their mobile phones there, we'll find out, and maybe we'll come to an agreement with them. well, how is russia with all the weather, everything is so-so, or the next question is to introduce the doctrine of limited sovereignty in relation to the russian elitists is the following, dear a-

and we are officially warning you that someone will do something against ukraine . the friendship of the peoples has already ended . we are warning you. you are legal targets for our e for our special services. in we are here, everything is fine. yes, but there is a nuance. we have an office there on volodymyrska. you know, mr. kid is in a bad mood there today . sign the papers what they told you why do we need our own weapons and when we don't have our own weapons when they tell us this missile shouldn't fly here and it's not that well then they'll talk to us like that that is, you must understand that this world this is how it was built, just like israel, they create israel, how israel achieved peace around the forces, and how they widowed themselves after victories after victories, when they bullied all

their neighbors, who were attacked at first, and then everyone realized that it is better to sign peace agreements with israel, live peacefully , trade and so on, that's why we have to get out of this and i. well, because as i say weapons , the power option is directly related to reparations if the russians know that a missile can always fly into their territory or there is an airfield a thousand kilometers away in two, i assure you , negotiations regarding compensation and reparations will be much more fun because that is how the world is built. excuse me, please. there are many things and i will tell you in this format in nato, well, they will take it away right away

, yes . and there, ukraine, which is capable of blackmailing russia, was on a good list earlier. it is called and we play the head for democracy there yes here this here in anglo-saxon it is clear why such a functional therefore returning to the issue of all these reparations and so on activity yes the courts of the whole those which only perhaps because we need we need a specific court decision which can then be implemented and - and in the life of a-a there is the experience of our and private companies and there is also the experience of state- owned companies, but regarding the experience of the state of ukraine i still do not remember what there is, but it is a separate one for the crimea, compensations are also hanging there for donbass and for all that of course there should be activity, first of all, from us to flood with lawsuits. that is, it was a multi-level question

, legal, international, foreign , legal and informal , legal and informal. country yes, we are on the border with a wild field. in fact, it is or is not for some. and why do i care? excuse me , we will talk to them in a different way, and those who are their allies in europe. well, if you don’t want it, we will do the same. well, for example, there, or involved mr. schrüder, for example, to the fact that this corruption vertical was created in relation to ukraine. i think that he is involved, and mrs. merkel, for example, who did not let us into nato , yes, and a lot of things happened, whether she was involved or not, this is also still the case of the president with his formulas, everyone else is involved or not involved , i will tell you this personality factor of personal

interests, you know when it goes personally something somehow like this you start to love ukraine more when you are asked by him and do you love her or not even in germany tell me please, and for deterrence, it means that russia can use the lever of sanctions , well, that is, you already talked about it, about letting go a little, allowing something to be used , yes, no, this is only after the war, it is possible only after the war, maybe because, well, the west already wants to use this lever in that number for access to russia's resources well, for example, there is the privatization of gazprom, oil and gas, and a lot of other things, because after all, russia occupies a huge territory that is poorly managed, that is, china is also interested in developing there and the west is interested in developing, for example, useful companies, e.e., mineral companies, and so on, that is why it is after the war, but now it will not be used yet, e.e., although such a possibility also exists, because you must

understand that somewhere sanctions will be removed, somewhere they will this weighty sanction can be used to stimulate war within the russian federation, it means oligarchs, not all oligarchs are under sanctions, pay attention. someone is under sanctions, who is not under sanctions, that is, this space is given, which consists in the following that you can think for now, but we will get to you, but please think faster . therefore, these processes will of course be interconnected , we must always follow them, because the interests of the big players are the interests of the big players, but we need to think about our own interest, in the end, it's our money and how much is our money? well, i said at the beginning of the program about 300 billion, this is what is known, but it is known from a very strange source , because this source is the data of the central bank of russia, how many assets are frozen in them

, it is about 300 billion dollars. even these 300 billion dollars are only half the sums, even less than half the sums that schmaga recently announced about the net . if the plant counts on the profit not the profit received during this period and the reconstruction, then it is a completely different figure , therefore, of course, there is no need to be ashamed, but the methodology should be as transparent as possible, which for the western market, and well, you know, somewhere, too, to take the fate western lawyers there, for example, yes, you hire them for an international campaign, giving them a percentage of what they win. i think that there will also be a lot of interest in getting this percentage faster, or is it possible to take into account, well, conditionally, now, conditionally, we say the governments of other countries, because well, i think that some of our partners would not mind returning

part of the money they have already spent on helping us. and here, by the way, you are asking an interesting question. and we can be the last to receive it, yes, because they will say, for example, we are suing gazprom for the fact that the nord streams were blown up, he will put there , for example, 10 billion of this, we will sue and they can also claim this money, yes that we may still have a moment of competition , of course, i am telling you once again that westerners must learn how in this world everyone loves only for himself , a friend, only for money, if necessary , everything else does not work. yes, it was originally great britain. according to this

the americans, because they, too, only taught them britishness. and we must understand that this process, because lawsuits have also already been filed and from private structures, and it is not excluded that they will also try to claim this money, so it depends on the speed of our good insolence. years and all kinds of others that you know, not first of all i, for example, in the last queue, you can take , there may be an interest in assimilating this money , that is, for example, part of the money can go to purchase goods, for example, from this country for which then goes to the restoration of our state, there are jobs and so on. that is, it is a very multi-layered and multi-complex approach not to create the largest possible circle of people who will be interested in giving us money, but because returning to our beginning of our conversation in the basic scenario in they don’t want to give anything to the basic scenario, if

we go back to your words about the need for the development of ukrainian weapons there and so on, and where to get the money for this, and is it possible, for example, to develop ukrainian anti-tank missiles at the expense of the same companies rhine metal, for example remetal and well, including, well, look in reality well, how can government guarantees take off , what did they do, and in our banks a lot of money, in reality, the national bank could provide financing for the real sector of the economy because we have uh, i see that bankers and financiers are doing well, they only have profits, that is, the national bank slapped this discount rate of 25%, but the bankers have profits, they have nothing at all, the discount rate is like the profit of bankers, but mountains for business, because business workers are stupid and for the economy, i told you to abolish the interest rate, find this

money in a-a, it may be in a directive order, financing of priority sectors of the economy is ensured. we have 60% of the banking system in a-a state hands, if someone there starts to say something about profit and so on, dear ones, and you don't live in the country, so people are suffering , property is being destroyed, and you decided that you don't want to bear the losses, no, it doesn't happen that way, dear ones , it should be a competent economic policy, mobilization economy, including which will be provided primarily by those industries that provide defense, that is, dual-use goods that can then be exported abroad , including, well, you know. for example, i want to cite an article by bohdan dana on this , the former minister of economy, he somehow talked about israel wrote in it, you can find it on the internet at open , well, you can find it in the same newspaper in israel, there was a war of attrition from 67 to 73, the second year when

israel passed, they fought there, there was a six-day war, but then, well, they fought specifically because israel the country could not withstand a long war, well, what do you think about the expression that the gdp grew by 40% , the accounting rate was 6%, so inflation is like in the 60s, and industrial production grew, everything grew, although i will remind you that israel is as big as our lviv region 80% of the territory of israel is generally deserts, they are like that. that is, there is no soul to understand it, that is, the small ones, in general, this is the area on which they live, work, provide for the army and build enterprises. that is, despite the fact that israel did not have such a rear as we have in europe . thank god there is a rear there is a place to sell products further therefore, everything is possible, but in reality, there is a lot of money in the banking system, it must be directed and the addition of water is needed, there must be a joint position of the national bank, which is interested

in serving the interests of financiers, and not serving the interests of the economy and our defense, because what if the national bank, together with the government, determined where the money needed to go, and in the end, we did not experience such a drop in the economy, it is not scary, you know. lovers of liberal economies tell what is communism? excuse me, please, when great britain from a liberal economy during the war also had a planned economy, they did not even import some things because they understood that currency was needed for weapons , the card system in the united states of america was also restricted, for example what is it, so that it is not produced in such and such quantities ? he said, well, everything goes to the defense of the company , the campaign. well, how democratic was it for them, they

said there, the company there, let's assume chrysler we produce cars, he said. you produce tanks today, and we don't want to produce tanks, well, you don't want to - you don't want to, our country is democratic, but you won't get the raw materials there, and that's why you were forced to produce what you need there, that is, the order of the government but they also increased military production and therefore provided , including the soviet union, great britain, in principle , won the war on this, because huge resources were thrown, including by the united states of america, but without returning to our ukraine, you must understand that weapons are a matter of our security, it depends on us , and you talk about the fact that you can't prepare because the rocket flies germany in the 44th year at 100 km per month , it was thrown out in the 44th year, that's how they are all year round at

100 km per month for comparison, hiroshima and nagasaki, two nuclear bombs together, it was about 25 km. germany was simply demolished to rubble, but they had underground factories, they produced weapons in them, even the industrial production of germany's gdp in the 44th year grew by 3%, what did you understand that they did not economies fell at the expense of state customers they provided weapons, they even produced jet planes, but the problem is that no one needed them anymore because there were no pilots and there was no proof, but from the point of view of the production of weapons, they were there, they always kept a sufficiently high pace. on the other hand, we don't have underground factories and the chrysler corporation, we have an underground facility that dates back to the time of the soviet army , which is one of the underground facilities. you yourself said that the factory is not a facility. we are waiting for the russians, aren't the russians, aren't they? we are not waiting for curiosity, they are developing production. well, they say, shahed, where

are you going to build a factory of shaheds now? what will happen if we have 50 routes for a long time, they also made news if 50 shaheds fly a day what are we going to do because of that, it should be or it happens that way, suddenly, suddenly, tomorrow china's war with the united states of america and weapons will not be like that, there will be a lot to do if we start reparations there again, and all the others, we must strong can pay off debts, those who are weak debts will not be able to knock out so built sorry please the world unfortunately unfortunately and in this world, which is built like this, russia has a chance to avoid reparations at all, and in what way, well, it depends. well, i would say the basic scenario is that russia does not pay anything, so if we do not have the strength to force it

yes, they can lift the sanctions there. well, the theoretical scheme can be assumed. navalny comes after putin, who says that we fulfill all the whims of the west, all the whims , we give back the fact that putin did not give oil from the field there, and so on, and i will say that in under such conditions, it is not a fact that they will give us money, because they will say, you know how the germans speak, and here they sneer, sorry, they didn't work out , i'll say it well, you can say that, well, go and decide with russia , russia will say well, we decided not to pay you anything, that's how it works, that's why we have to to prepare prerequisites to follow you know how there is such an aphorism that always follow the years of politicians so that they do not end up in your pocket, this also applies to western politicians, including we have already learned that in this world everyone loves a mountain only with itself, and the topic of reparations is in the information field and in the minds of our citizens in a good sense. yes, it is in the world of our

citizens, in the universe, it is dense, and this can be understood. it is absolutely naturally connected with the restoration of property that our citizens lost due to russian aggression. you are at least kind, at least a little kind, good news for citizens no , well, look, after all, as far as we know, the government launched a system there at the beginning of the war that i remember that it was in march or april, that it was possible to record what do you have here there damage for so that it's all like that, collect the documents. everything must be recorded. no one will look for it for you. if not, don't forget that our officials are also not big fans of doing something if there is no need to do something. and when there is an opportunity to avoid doing something, they won't do it because of course, the documents must be there. of course, somewhere, somewhere, it is being restored. i know there are some cities there, somewhere, they are being designed. this is the process. we must understand this, but it also depends on the citizens who are also there, in my opinion, there is

a restoration. yes, which gives an opportunity for example, if you, for example, want to live in this place, you can choose another place, they will rebuild it for you. this is housing and so on , but we must understand, of course, that it will be massive only after the war, now these are temporary measures in order to provide people with housing. yes, but in the general general resource of our country should now be directed primarily to defense because there is no point in spending on anything else , it means everything that we talked about today, including, and taking into account , the principle of being more daring that we must now demand and take as much international aid as possible, spending it, including on the restoration of the housing of our citizens, the restoration of our industry there for development, and so on. well, of course, what is needed there, and remember that after the end of the war, ukraine must also demand

from writing some of ours. it is not scary, as some of our financiers assure us, there is nothing scary here, there is no restructuring or debt cancellation, but you know that here the issue is political, well, poland, for example , in 1989, when they did not yet know what would happen there to happen, 50% of the national debt was written off, about 30 billion dollars for our money, taking into account inflation, now it is about 60 billion, he wrote off the advance , so, of course, we must take resources , use our own resources as much as possible, after all, we need industry, jobs, it provides eh -e we don't need so much money to choose, of course, to put things in order. at customs, the tax authorities, as the president spoke. he understands that, uh, we have problems there. in some areas, chemistry must be dealt with, because well, not only at the customs, probably if the customs are put in order, i think that

we will not need any money from the imf for the next few years, for a couple of years, for sure, and they will not simply be taken out of the country there, yes, that is, corruption will be beaten for years, especially locally authorities, which in our country, if you can see, are also insolent in front of your eyes, sometimes the landscaping is done 20 times by the goalkeeper here and there, they are repairing the cemeteries, so probably the living will be envious of how it is possible to live there for such prices and so on, someone there, stadiums, that is wild story i was in volyn, they decided to build a stadium for 140 million uah in the city for 10,000 people, well, is it understandable to celebrate for this, but it works , i want to say that i myself support all those people who are tracked uh, things uh, i advise you to read them and subscribe, they know how and the government reacts, there is no need to tell us that we also have idiots sitting everywhere , as we like, it doesn’t do as you like, for example, the state

audit service is there, in principle, not immediately, but it begins to check, tenders are canceled and so on, so we must understand that from the activity of citizens, active citizens they should always follow politicians for ee always and active citizens plus an active country in the external arena then will be then will be the success of our state audacity in a good sense of the ukrainian military armed with ukrainian desired weapons yes lowering the discount rate for business development activity of civil society and all this will be the best reparations or wrong things of course that we are promised we may not get of course if we are passive if we think you know what you think that exists gold polubotka gold polubotka does not exist and this is our expectation of money can turn into a new gold polubotka now i thank you very much, you brought a lot of clarity

to the question, i will remind you that it was a rubric, emphasis , we talked today about how to force russia , how to return e-e to her our benefit, her money. how to force her to pay with money for all that she has done. and we had a guest today: taras zagorodny , head, partner of the national anti-crisis group, the marathon, the only news, continues , switch the russian-ukrainian war the eastern front is ready for one moment, our forward movement is not much , but we are taking away every bit of a handful of land, as the enemy is trying to stop the ukrainian counter-offensive with terror

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