[000:00:00;00] during this week, we will meet again this week on sunday at 6:10 p.m. be with espresso , stay with us take care, be aware of weather phenomena, air alert well, next on the air is our serhii rudenko and the verdict program let's watch together good evening we are from ukraine glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone

good health today together with a major from the armed forces of ukraine and a loud-mouthed political expert volodymyr tsibulko and a retired major of the united states of america with john spencer, we will talk about the counteroffensive of the ukrainian army, a military establishment on russia and how the world is trying to curb putin. i will traditionally start with information about the losses of russians in ukraine. in ukraine, 228,340 russians have already died in the last day alone. the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 560 people since the beginning of the great war. lost in ukraine 4,041 and 7,863 armored combat vehicles, 4,127 artillery systems , 630 rocket salvo systems, 389 anti-aircraft defense systems, 315 aircraft

, 308 helicopters, 1,780 vehicles equipment 18 ships boats 1261 cruise missiles 3519 drones 569 units of special equipment as friends we speak not only live on the espresso tv channel but also on our youtube platform today we are conducting a survey there we ask you about this , do you know what to do in the event of a terrorist attack russians at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant yes no please vote in our survey at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote i would like to introduce today's first guest - this is igor lapin, a special officer major of the armed forces of ukraine people's deputy of the eighth convocation mr. igor i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air i wish you good health glory to ukraine glory to the heroes mr. igor today the supreme commander-in-chief's vote was held among the questions of the successor

and the situation in belarus was resolved on the northern border of ukraine with belarus, the leaders of the gura reported serhiy nayav, the head of the north command of the sbu state security service , talked about how the situation is developing there after the private military company wagner moves there, although literally a few days ago, general budovy and president zelensky assured us that there are no threats from the north or from the northern front, according to you, whether it persists and whether we can defeat this threat, taking into account the fact that the new yorker has already published satellite images that shows that in belarus the wagnerians are starting to set up tent cities. well

, let's be honest, the threat from the north has never disappeared. the question is how strong it can be and how it can be strengthened. so we we understand that the military infantry, let's say so, without heavy weapons, in principle, cannot make a deep breakthrough there, well , they can make a raid on wheeled vehicles, but for this you need roads, if i'm not mistaken , there are only 13 roads from the belarusians to ukraine. exactly 13 , as far as i remember that's all the rest. it was the forest through the forest. well, it's possible with czechs, but we remember very well how the russians wandered when they went to kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast and sumy oblast in their time in the 22nd year ago, the history is such a question we have the lines ready there, well, lines were being prepared almost, well, we say so. they are preparing and until today, mini barricades are being built, trenches are being bathed, trenches, lines of oboro, and so on, and those forces and

means are enough. well, i cannot be responsible for the entire northern front, of course , only this can be reported i know, but i want to say based on the information that was as of the previous year. let's say yes to the previous year. i think that there are not enough forces and means, there are not enough machine guns, there are not enough different types of grenade launchers. and i can't go there now i don’t have such information to say for sure, but i don’t think that there are any artillery means concentrated there in large quantities , which are necessary in order to deter possible attacks from the enemy from the north , because well, let’s not forget that we have a border with belarus, if i’m not mistaken, more than 900

kilometers ago, such a story . can we notice in advance the deployment of combat er battle formations? instead of raiding the trenches and poor barbecues, i think that rivets are enough for the leadership of the country. well, the understanding of the citizens of ukraine pays for this, so of course we need to prepare for such a story. i emphasize once again that the western partners could significantly strengthen the anti-tank weapons on in these directions, well, any kind of equipment in general. that is, these are the so-called manual grenade launchers and so on, this is what is needed, this is so that there will always be a shortage, just to understand that this is not because the military is so very greedy iron-clad, precisely because it is really e machine guns and anti-tank everything what everything what everything that flies a little further between simple and stronger than a bullet we always needed and this is the reality of today e p major how do you raid the very fact

of the movement of e groups of insurgents from russia to belarus and from one friend of putin lukashenka to another friend, a beautiful woman to talk about it. what does this mean, because he is shriveled up, well , he behaves as if he did not commit military mutiny, as if he did not shoot down all the helicopters and one plane and calmly looks like some kind of movement the combination of the federal security service, but it is simply not fully understood the purpose of these reshuffles, the transfer of prigozhin from russia to belarus, well, look. the fact is that analyzing the actions of that madman is of course very difficult, but what i paid attention to is now simply a statement of facts at the crossing of the ukrainian-russian border, the fsb forces, the so-called border

troops of russia, did not open fire, why is this a question mark? the movement was not actually the capture of the cities, but they drove there and then went the same voronezh, they went around lipetsk, well , roughly speaking, they did not storm and on land no one resisted them, what was flying, they shot down everything that was flying as a potential threat to the column yes, of course, this is a fact the question is that now there are a lot of prigozhyn experts and bunker experts i honestly do not have the role of an expert, but what i draw attention to is the following things, so there is information that prigozhyn did recently appear on territory russia therefore has different information produced by budanov and ukrainians. about the fact that the fsb

allegedly received a task to eliminate prigozhin , well, such a task. it always exists in any system of the indicator regime, even during peacetime. as they say, but thanks to palace intrigues, yes hardware wars that constantly take place in russia, that's why there is such a threat . of course, there is, but let's speak frankly to putin today, in order to show that he is still great, he must be ordered to do so. he must do it no matter what , because otherwise he will have a long time to send twins and triplets to the streets of different cities to kiss passers-by, well, we understand what is all this for, that putin is in place, putin controls everything, putin is great , putin is with the people, and so on, but i emphasize once again that he must now restore what was shaken in his eyes -he of the whole planet or the check of the whole planet was shaken by the fact that putin , let's say so, appeared on television, something

got wet because of that, the situation changed immediately, he then got wet in another way and in no way restored his, well, let's say his the status of the dictator and ruler of russia. so, in this situation, he can only remove the wagners , er, by destroying them at once or gradually, or by giving them some opportunities. well, let's be honest , not all wagnerites entered belarus. there is a part of the wagnerites that is still in the territory of ukraine there is a part of the wagnerites who are in training camps, if i am not mistaken. it is near rostov, so the question is whether they will be forced into the armed forces under a contract or not. i think they will not all be forced because, let’s say, they came out for the liberties signed a contract with promises of freedom. they were given a second time to sign the contract, the lion's share of them will not want to, but putin will need

to act like this in order to restore his status. in order to save himself, it will be necessary to decide whether to move somewhere or not to move, that's already the question debatable e there i heard that bohdanov or someone there said from among our people that there seems to be a task and they have to catch him in africa, well , the planet is not so big in order to breed such a special wasp. and this person is behind her there will always be not only a trail of blood, but a trail of money, because without money it is very expensive to run. so, in this case, you will always be able to find money. i understand that there are diamonds and all that can be used as black cash, and it is much more beautiful , but i emphasize once again that the issue now is putin's restoration of his reputation for russia. it seems so to me, igor, in this context, can ukraine become a place for putin to restore or conditionally strengthen his

reputation? for several weeks, the ukrainian authorities have been talking about the preparation of a terrorist act by the russians at the zaporizhzhia npp, and the gur reports that , according to the latest data, the occupation contingent is gradually leaving the territory of zaporizhia . those who came from russia went to the power station first, so there were several people who were watching what was happening at stations , now the number of e patrols in energodar is decreasing, the military is gradually withdrawing e , can the zaporizhia npp become the place where putin e will demonstrate in this world and e including russia, that after all, he has power and power, including over nuclear power plants that can be transformed into weapons in his hands well, let's be honest , if we say this in the context of prigozhin, then he does not need it, because to prove that

he defeated prigozhin it is necessary to remove prigozhin, and the question of the zaporozhian atom is of a more global nature. well, not in order to restore his reputation, especially on the territory of russia, because he suffered a reputational fiasco in russia, and in the whole world, but the main thing happened in the territory of russia because once i emphasize, he needs it for beauty, i need it. i think so for this. as for the zaporozhye direction , i have already said the same as the kakhovskaya hpp , whatever, if the russians brought it to the burial site, they are not bringing it in order to just look at it like that, it means they will blow it up, you know the fact, which in principle, well , it has never been refuted by anything, there has never been such a thing that they mined and then cleared the mines and left, so the situation of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power station

is quite grim, to be honest clova , the reaction of the western partners is frankly annoying in the context that they reacted very weakly to the environmental disaster associated with the kakhovka hpp. this weakness is precisely and he unties his hands for impunity , that's why it worried me, secondly , i really don't like it when western partners on the one hand steal putin's threats are very serious. this is the first half of the sentence, and in the second in half of the sentence, they say, but it is unlikely that this is about the use of nuclear weapons in general, tactical nuclear weapons, and so on, that is, in fact, in the second half of the sentence , they deny the beginning, and this annoys me so much because if putin's threats are serious

, well, thank you for fulfilling the function newsmakers, but frankly speaking, i would prefer to see actions that will make it impossible for putin to fulfill these threats, that is, on prejudice, and not to rake up the crap that will already fall on our heads. to save money for western partners, too. well, if they are worried about money, it was uh, then they would rip it off. well, somewhere they say how much there is, a few there, i don’t know, a lot of territory can be contaminated. that is, it’s, well, it’s all agriculture, it’s competition, let’s say , grain products all over of the world, they will simply bury it all in ukraine if they blow up the zaporizhzhia direction . do you understand putin? well, of course he does. well, what difference does it make to him than to blackmail the world with gas in the winter or bread in the summer, well, what difference does he have with what

to blackmail in order to achieve one or another of the teenagers' tasks by starving in africa, you will starve there in africa , now ukrainian grain is more reliable, russia has already risen export of grain by 30%. well, they can now turn off this faucet and they will not exploit anything at all, they will export, then the prices will go up, there will be problems . well, what is the difference? well, with gas, i was blackmailing now with grain, the day after tomorrow with ecology , the day after tomorrow with nuclear things, i remember very well how before the war in 21- this year, the surrender resistance movement and i all said that putin is not he's just a terrorist, he's an ecological terrorist, he's a nuclear terrorist, he's a man-made terrorist. look at everything that igor lakov said is happening today. well, it hasn't come to nuclear yet, but in my opinion, this is the last argument that putin can use.

live on the espresso tv channel and also on our youtube platform, we ask you about this: do you know what to do in the event of a terrorist attack by russians at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, but as of now, 72% do not understand what to do in if there is a terrorist attack on the zaporizhzhia npp, only 28% say that this is the case, mr. igor's survey shows that this communication failure of the government, that there is a lot of talk about the fact that a terrorist attack could happen at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but that as a result of this terrorist attack, there could be will there be any urgent evacuation there or buy iodine iodized potassium there or god knows what, that is, there are no explanations and explanations for that. and what to do if suddenly it tears, that is, the whole problem is that our

communication geniuses through their bini marathon just they don't tell anything, but the experts of tarot cards, horoscopes, and other types of experts in our country come out, even if i'm not mistaken. well, i won't advertise, but mr. komarovsky, who is a pediatrician , talked about the principles of the zaporizhzhia nuclear reactor and how it differs from the chernobyl nuclear reactor you understand, that is, we now have so many experts that people really get lost in the flow of information. although, on the other hand, we must give credit to the ministry of health has already developed algorithms that are now focused on social networks, but this is for those who have noticed. i believe that this should happen 24/7 non-stop to the state of ukraine. i believe that so-called evacuation trains should be formed if you consider that there is a real threat there on the fifth number for a day themselves that and so on, well, we have a great guide of budanov. he can predict the date and

so on. well, that means then prepare for the official trains and evacuate people, and not later when they will already think that our hospitals are all full. and i am the same i call all my friends acquaintances, there is an opportunity to go somewhere, it’s better to go quietly now, roughly speaking, somewhere to rest, somewhere there, i don’t know, in nature , on barbecues, only somewhere in western ukraine. well, i ’m already poisoning myself, of course. but nevertheless, i ’ll stay for that period until it’s clear what will happen next. although i’m sure what happened later? thank you, mr. igor, for the conversation. this was igor lapin, a special officer from the armed forces of ukraine, a major and a people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel and also on on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are watching us live on youtube, please like this video , subscribe to our e-e pages and on youtube, on facebook, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel by going to this qr-code

i hope now our directors will show you can find additional information on how to join our sponsor club , any help from you is helpful to us well , then we are in touch with volodymyr tsybulko , political expert, people's deputy of the fourth convocation mr. volodymyr i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. congratulations, let's start with trump, because trump, the former president of the united states of america, believes that ukraine may have to cede part of the territory to stop hostilities . let's hear what trump said. i want people to stop dying because of this senseless war. i think that the united states the united states of america should do it now, establish peace, unite russia and ukraine. the time has come

to do it. i think the ukrainians have the right to keep most of what they have earned, and i think russia does the same. i would agree to that, you need the right mediator or negotiator and we don't have one now of course it was an unread text trump didn't say it, oleksandr murshchevka said it, but still, mr. volodymyr, according to you, trump is already preparing the world community for that ukraine has to, as they say, to accept a new territorial reality, such a diplomatic new concept was introduced by moscow and trump is simply playing along with moscow why why now trump is starting to talk about it, about the fact that peace can only be under one condition when ukraine will simply give up those territories that are already under russia, well, first of all, trump created his own trumpian group within the framework

of the republican party, and this group is engaged in constant revision of the american-ukrainian relationship. it always promotes skepticism of support for ukraine and, unfortunately, in this the group even includes viktoria sparci, born in ukraine, who insists that since there is a corrupt government in ukraine , it is impossible to help in the war. well, it is not the government that is fighting, the people are fighting in this case and trump . there is no way that the court can recognize it. let's say yes the subjectivity of the ukrainian people, by the way, he is putin's partner because putin 's head is also not included that the people can be a subject, so trump is following the path of simplifying the ukrainian-russian war

, or that russian-ukrainian and for with this simplification, he usually offers, like every populism, such ridiculous and primitive recipes. the main thing is that a certain stratum of people in the usa are led to these recipes, and so far this allows trump to retain the leadership among republicans for the nomination, that is, for the nomination of the only candidate from michaels, a former vice-president and a more serious person, visited france for the post of president the other day in kyiv, that is, such a classic republican, and the words of the brush are completely different from the words of trump, in which he was the vice-president, we can say that vladimir's classic brushes are just

brushes. we need to make sure that we provide the ukrainian military with what they really need to repel russia and defeat the united states will continue to support this will make russia understand china and to any other countries in the world that the free world will not tolerate aggression, free countries will stand together for freedom, it is clear, mr. volodymyr, what is starting, i have already started the election campaign in the united states of america, and according to you, here are these two wings that are always beautiful it is useful for ukraine in the united states of america, if trump is in these positions, if trump wins the elections in the united states of america , he will constantly push ukraine to this world that is not beneficial to us, because it is clear that

the states play a very important role in the russo-ukrainian war, and financing is ideologically meant to support our victory . well , washington is setting the trend for other countries of the world. january of the 25th year by this time a lot will have changed, as we can see, history is very dynamic, this is the first, the second, trump has a huge conflict with the republican cities there, with what is there, the republic of the party, in particular with this reagan wing classical republicans because uh trump is such a guest. he even though he has a photo with reagan and he invested in his team in the reagan campaign, but at one time he broke pots with the republicans. well, now

, due to historical circumstances, he became a candidate and even the winner from the republicans was the president, but the problem is that the warmer republicans are radically against trump, and now they can't do anything to uh, to set up trump a little bit. most i would say that the reactive group of supporters of the republican party, the so-called adviser, that is, the provincials of deeply complexed and conserved people who lost their jobs due to the development of technology and they believe that it is possible to return there to some kind of plow or to a plow and the like , well trump so far their leader, but unfortunately

, trump poisons the consciousness of normal people , normal republicans, and it is a shame if such wise people as those with brushes do not get into the actual bank for the position of president trump and others who doubt our victory explained what is happening now in ukraine, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzha, who gave an evil interview to the washington post . that it is not necessary for ukraine to have 120 f16 fighter

jets , it is possible to have an air fleet of the armed forces of ukraine in a much more modest way. a counteroffensive in the world, including what is expected from this counteroffensive , let's hear and understand what else valery zaluzhny said without full supply, these plans for a counteroffensive are not possible at all, but they are being carried out. yes , maybe not as quickly as the participants of the show and the observers would like, but it is theirs problems, what do you think, is it convincing now , and is it useful for the western audience, because it is clear that the high command with the armed forces of ukraine now has high support among ukrainians, and it is possible to support this support to this support there is a certain jealousy of other leaders of our country. yes, it is true. and the fact is that general

zaluzhny simply enjoys enormous authority among the military of the whole world, and it is necessary to remind about the context, this interview appeared just as a continuation of other information published on the pages of the washington post actual information about the fact that it is time to allocate that ukraine has matured to anti-cam missiles and it is time to allocate atkus missiles, and in parallel with that information appeared that the sources of the american defense department are considering the idea of ​​transferring cluster missiles munitions of ukraine, these cluster munitions would be very useful now and could replace the aviation for a certain time and that's it. well, the quick action was the rocket attacks and the ammunition cartridges allowed a serious

offensive to really unfold at least to the depth of about 100 km of the front . it would be possible to hold this interview general zaluzhnyi appeared in your compost for a good reason. i believe that with the more american ones, he is really maturing to the idea that after the explosion of the kakhovka hpp , you can't mess with russia anymore, you have to arm yourself ukraine to the maximum well, obviously. obviously, in washington, i consider various options regarding the use of nuclear weapons or nuclear energy. conventionally speaking, i will not say weapons , because uh, it is in the hands of the russians, and the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is a weapon, because russia is a terrorist country that kept a nuclear facility under control for 15 months, which had never happened before in world history, when terrorists seized some nuclear facility, a nuclear plant, a nuclear plant and blackmailed the whole