[000:00:00;00] because to suspect that the attack is what everyone is so waiting for, i absolutely agree with zaluzhny he says that he is annoyed by the expectations of civilians and the sofas of these experts and when did the offensive come, but i understand that when the events took place in russia so then ours began to look very carefully because is it worth burning the equipment or is it worth risking people if everything could be left everything could end there in russia and not here in the furnace of war, i am correct in mine well here i think that you know it was possible hope if this is er the so-called facility would expand and it would become a serious threat inside russia, then it would be possible to transfer part of the troops from the ukrainian front to russia, but this did not happen. yes, and

then there would be a chance for us. in the west and now also in russia, as if the americans there asked us on the 24th not to interfere, so as not to play along with the beautiful ah, well, it is difficult to say whether it is true or not eh. but i think that i agree more with what yes eh- it was better to expect that yes indeed and i heard by the way and from of our military that our commanders will even say so well, it's not that it's not a competition, it's the wrong term, but they care about who has less losses, but for them it's an important indicator of who has less losses, a completely different situation than the russians, where is the meat and ours cares about people about keeping our fighters, yes, i think the logic worked. let's have one more question. i would like to hear your opinion. why didn't they gather the council? well, it's true. well, it seems to me that putin

was there and then there was a degree. now it's less. give it a go. in general, pay attention to the invasion, how pathetically they gathered the radbez, how they made a campaign for this radbez, and suddenly , look, a commotion begins and no one collects anything, planes fly on sanctions , among other things, medvedev is the deputy head of the radbez, he is in uman, eh, on other things, in other places i think that this is just evidence of the fact that the system as such, the institutions do not work, everything is based on personal connections and the main thing is who collects the supreme commander putin should have collected and putin was a stupor. well, i have such an explanation, and let's say for the western partners if they listen to us, the ukrainians assembled the national security and defense council within ten minutes after the start of the war and literally a few hours later they were already

speaking in the verkhovna rada, well, in particular, oleksiy vyacheslavovych, that's right, yes, well, it's for someone who institutions are still more slender, it seems to me that the question now is based on emotions, that is, if a meeting was announced there and decisions were made there, the search for a collective solution, that is , it all worked, it is not only confused with putin, but also that today they are not they knew how the children used to know, that is, the lack of a plan, the lack of preparation and the lack of understanding in general, who was involved. and while they are there today, investigative actions there with the fsb , military counter-intelligence are ongoing, and it is not only there that the interrogation of surovikin is said to have been arrested there, it seems to me that in fact he was just taken there today interrogate only each individual of those who were involved or not involved, everyone will answer there . it seems to me that he simply could not understand , for example, who should be in this council , because i do not rule out that there were also people there

who were also involved and supported this institution, the participants or the revolution revolutionized yes, let's do it, we still want to turn history, well, in our direction, why are we interested in how it can play in our in our yes in our direction and how we can use it correctly, one of the consequences what we saw were the huge waves of this freedom march, the huge waves that reverberated all over the world absolutely , well, freedom, slaves can't walk let them still call it, but how far they can walk, and in the freedom march, not exactly , next time we will invent together with the title resembles oh, this is completely understandable, the thesis is that we want to talk about it, we were most surprised in european capitals, in american capitals, this is all actively and extremely discussed. and if we talk about the consequences, then what we can quickly feel, military experts talked about the fact that in the american white house in the cabinet joe biden, well, let's quickly return to the issue of attacks, i.e. now the position is changing there

, now the position is changing in europe, to what extent are our partners changing their position because there is the same biden, as they say, quickly i think the damn thing should be returned this year because it will be a calm territory now. it will be guaranteed by the ukrainian attack, and at the time when i remind you, the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is still being held hostage . and besides, they were afraid of crossing the red line, the west also means partners to putin suddenly he did not pull out this nuclear weapon and did not swing it, and it can be both a tactical nuclear weapon and a nuclear power plant located on the territory of ukraine, because i understood in fact that when putin started immediately communicate with the west regarding this situation and this was just a testimony of whether its red lines are very flexible and the west understood everything and the west today changes its own and this is today what ukraine received from this encirclement, this is the determination of the west to support the nations

, further support, weapons, what is missing there weapons weapons weapons weapons victories but another important aspect that we are today possible also i think it is expedient to consider directly the statement of prigozhin, you know , when the first war started, they won the first information war with russia because it is clear that ukraine is a victim of russia, the aggressor, and it was all clear to the world. our second victory was when the whole world understood that this was a genocide of the ukrainian people, and it was just after the bucha events there in kyivska , kyiv region, and you know, one of my acquaintances, she said i after that, i can't calculate what happened to the student there in a different way. why, because i understood that there they beat not local people, they beat the whole of ukraine, which means that i personally and all the people understood and you all made sure of it. and the future is important to us you know, it was such an angry information victory, if today the special services were looking for and found such a thug

who would be well-known there , probably used authority and charisma among the russians, and who would prove to them about the falsity of the reasons for the war that nato and ukraine were not going to to fight, but also regarding, let's say, the talent or in general, there was a doubt about the competence of their leadership, and regarding those great sacrifices. today they are trying in every way to remove this statement, to limit access to it, but everyone should know why. because it is right in the middle, it is also extraordinary that he is there . everything he said is the truth and the truth that today penetrated the asphalt . putin's propaganda and lies. and this is a very important aspect of our victory and further influence, will it have such a huge long-term significance for

, well, directly inside russia? him on this march of justice he said that the invasion of the russian federation of ukraine it was a clumsy operation he said that they wanted to plant only medvedchuk on the kingdoms he said that no one fired at them or make-up it is a dandbil donbas and how do they say that what else did he say to the russian defense ministry? they deceived ordinary russians and president putin, the dictator, while preparing a full-scale invasion of ukraine. he emphasizes that no one would have stopped the russian occupation army if the degenerates had not built long convoys, and they didn’t send naked and barefoot soldiers, he poured them in. but you know what he said, what’s more important is that everyone saw and saw the violation of the sacredness of putin’s power in front of this world and in front of all of russia, he was raping like zekovsky , i don’t know, stupid the object is mopped with something or another, but the whole world saw that putin will repeat himself there again. ready for any humiliation

in order to preserve his power. well, life is probably for life. no, a careful moment. remember, before may 9, there was a drone attack on the kremlin. this is the most sacral sacralness they got, and who were the partisans because it became completely obvious that it was not from ukraine, these drones would not have arrived, it was from near moscow, i launched this, another evidence that there is a partisan movement inside er, russia exists and smells, i saw the request of this video, and that's why they understand that these red lines are really flexible , but i wouldn't rush until i was in a hurry to determine that everything in the west has changed its attitude to russia and to us.

it seems to me that now there are two such tactical lines, they understand that it is necessary to strengthen the work with russia, the pressure on russia, but there is one line of force, that it is necessary to help ukraine more actively, and these are precisely the people who are now proposing to give us otaks more and more weapons, to strengthen our military potential in order to ensure a military victory for ukraine and , accordingly, to influence the internal situation in russia in this way, another line, as it is conventionally called, is the negotiation line of the negotiators . he will leave. maybe he will stay, but we need to look for an agreement. i think that there are negotiations with patroshev from vain, yes, they are negotiating with different people. by the way, i think that china has also become more active now. it has, on june 24, acted through lukashenka. but i think that now they will also build direct connections, and they have already

started to do this earlier, to build direct connections with individual russian leaders , but the fact is that in the west , the line of these negotiators still remains er, to negotiate with them about controlling nuclear weapons, so that it is possible that this inertial evolutionary scenario will work so far, this line is why because if the west writes an order, putin would not be in such a position today, he would not be wanted by the international criminal court, that is, he would receive such a a black mark, and that means that they are now negotiating with putin, they are no longer negotiating because everything is right , it is difficult. putin, we need to negotiate with those people who control the situation in russia, we need to find these people and then build certain contractual relations with them, but for us it is important that the emphasis be again on weapons on weapons on

the servant of support for ukraine eh i want to clarify to this story. please tell me what you think, did the russians hear prigozhin or did they understand what he was saying? and here is whether this appeal , as they say, from high-level defectors can give you a foundation on whom to lean. when you come in again let's move away from the immersive scenario, let's move on to the initiative on our side, let's forgive the russians, and i can see that they listened to prigozhin, but in fact, after a year and a half of the war, everyone has already formed their opinion of the situation , who was for the war for aggression, nothing will convince him who was with прихов месяцев against the war, they also remain in their position , and yes, the majority of the population there, 70%, believe that they will accept any position. crimea is our crimea , our putin's, it's long past time, that is, they will

always do as they are told from above adheres to my instrument in the soviet film , we are from the majority. that is, when armed people appear, motivated and determined , these all disappear, and here the main thing is just not to leave the beauty on the way we will approach putin's mask, he knows about it only when we are already there, somewhere on the streets of the capital, we will go, meanwhile, while we are talking here, roskomnadzor has blocked publications related to the falsified media and from the patriot media holding

. later, they announced the closure of ... i want to say something about this legendary factory of trolls , kovalchuk, it seems that you are negotiating to buy these, yes, everything is there, that's why this factory is three, she, she , they. to the candidates, that is, they will always find some orc troll. well, i think that yes, there is a holy place. it just does not happen, yes, they will look for another performer . yes, because this performer exploded, uh, went beyond the limits of what is allowed. yes , but again, they mentioned kovalchuk and kovalchuks the kovalchuks, the kovalchuks, the fate of what was brought to africa for projects yes and here again the finances and i think that they will remember lukashenka yes here, everyone has interests from what happened in africa yes no well, because this topic is now the most difficult and here

the decision is ready, no, by the way, now they have postponed it a little bit. they were supposed to agree now at this summit, er, russia and africa on and er, yes, yes, and they agreed that agreements on the provision of services to some african countries will be concluded just after chvk wagner now, uh, they can’t do this. because of whom, the africans said, in fact, we tried with chvk, a little with the state, that is, what kind of other, that is, in fact, they are counting on further support, so the russians, too, we understand that, they are counting on strange movements, in fact, that’s why what for in the last few days, it seems, putin spoke to modi twice with the prime minister of india. if the chinese are silent as usual in such stalemate situations , they are also so so . the west says that we do not interfere , this is a russian affair. the first representative from india entered. so, you see the results of putin's negotiations, not just something, he

also confuses something with india, but modi was in the states , and now active work is going on with india on the part of the united states, that's why, well, indians, i it seems that now they want to occupy approximately the same niche as turkey and ours, yes, that is, they and part of the west are actively cooperating with the neighboring states of the west, and at the same time they want to receive profits from russia from cheap russian oil, among other things, from russia now they don’t know what to do with the indian group and there are already a lot of them . what is the government going to do? among other things, here again, now, i think it is a very good initiative , the americans are engaged in this, and we are taking an active part there

, this is a victory, which took place in copenhagen, yes, this is the summit of the big seven political advisers of the big seven in the global south and ukraine is the first meeting the next meeting was planned. in about a month, it should, in principle, be the same global peace summit at the end, but this format is such a multilateral format that it will not just be about the end of the war between russia and ukraine, and about the formation of a new international security architecture, and here it is important to cooperate with all those who want to negotiate peace there so that they do not do it there, there from this brazil, all the people who took part in these negotiations told me that, in principle, now it was close 20 countries and negotiations are underway for china to join and there are about 50 countries at the end, that is, there will be an expansion of this format. i think that this was also presented and they said that it is necessary to rent a meeting hall of the united nations

. that is, it is from the world, that is, how many countries will there be because it was heard today, it means that mark sweetly stated that there is no decision regarding the attackers yet, but the issue is being studied in belarus very much. what are the citizens of lukashenko there ? you don't really know, but they changed roles with putin, earlier the chakhlyk handed lukashenka to us and then he held him in his hands and now lukashenko holds putin in his hands, but for lukashenka, he is understandable there, too, that is the humiliation putin went through, to turn to a foreign the leader for the settlement there, the elimination of their own there, well, in fact, the crack of theirs in general, the empire to postpone well, not to deprive, but to wipe out, but lukashenko also receives in this territory , let's say, certain forces that will be capable of

, well, they can be used already for directly a-a during the civil war if it arose on the territory of belarus, well, that is , in order to overthrow lukashenka now. yes, i want to say that today, the military personnel who are passing through the kalyanovskogo field there, i mean the territory of belarus, are fighting here with us against russia, but they are already saying there that you will stand up for weapons together, we will next provide coloring pages to some dictator there and everything else and lukashenko, they will have their own camp and there for 15,000, but i read people , look more interesting, this border will be built, what will be there 15 000 eh, i'm just. today, military expert mykhailo and i are talking about exactly what we were talking about. he said that i certainly wouldn't have allowed such a force to run up to lukashenka . if he already went to moscow once, then what prevents him from going to minsk, and there is much more

a shorter way well, it seems to me that there will actually be a hap and wagner's hap on the territory of belarus to be transferred to africa. why , because there, according to previous agreements, the beauty was guaranteed the preservation of africa for him, and this is the hap through which he will transfer there from his people's reserves are there, that is, remove prigozhin with your own assumptions, but leave wagner in central africa. no, i thought that well, he is already the same personality , he has already played his role. you know, he has paranoia there in general, he did not trust his armed forces there in this , and he appoints these classy guards to the position of gold, from where he appeared as the head of the national guard, not because he is talented, but because putin is confident in him, convinced, and they were even there when the transfer was a-and the purpose of gold, they transferred parts of the special purpose brigade to the ministry of defense so that

the minister of defense or the head of the general staff could not raise and use these brigades for example, to create bundles, that is, they are only there with the approval of the head of the national guard, that is, the paranoia continues, and in these conditions, for him, this wagner had as additional forces for suppression, that is , his own reserves, which he was convinced, that his funds are paid from the budget, everything and here he utters it is these forces that are going against him, i.e. the lack of any loyalty wagner betrayed the property, the security forces were waiting there when he was there how is he getting out there, everything, everything, i want to get to the bottom of this bad thing, well, look you understand, we will have further influence, this is the success of our contrast, if we break the very cycle of the associated corridor, and this will directly put pressure on him there, and

further losses will be directly on him further on in russia, but the main thing is the economy about this is the loss of crimea and despite the fact that today there ah, at the beginning of the war there, naftogaz prices began to rise, now they have fallen, and the ruble has already fallen by 40% even in the last year. and the economy , for example. yes, he is there today. hold the defense , but he no longer has the strength for a new offensive this also needs to be understood and it will only worsen what you said there about the second part, which concerns us and you understand, then you want, well, the impression is that the chains are tangled, that is , at first, the status quo is expected from us , as of now, we are expected to advance at the front. and then we they give f16 why are the chains tangled, they would give us weapons to help us advance, do you understand the weight of the anecdote there about the professor and the student if i had known, it would have been different, there would have been a different assessment , you know that and how did they know that we

are consulting, this is the error of their intelligence in fact, it is correct and why did you allow it, you say that it will be used in african affairs, you know . well, it resembles a limited border patrol from the troops of the soviet union in afghanistan. i was so insulted, and if you said that those who fought there can join the russian army of the russian federation, that is why this unit was not completely disbanded and they did not join the army of the russian federation, because it was possible to send parts of the army of the russian federation to central africa, right or wrong. it was possible to rely on the same paratroopers on the marines who worked in africa, huge international crimes are taking place and what wagner is doing there in africa is already recognition not only there as a tourist organization there in general there and you genocide of individuals there for that to make it worse and state responsibility, but at the same time he said that what he did in ukraine is basically what he did in ukraine

, so it is impossible, that is, or it is possible, and then for sure russia is already there for sure, says the tourist organization, and at the same time, it is not just there the project is related to international interests, this is a business, this is a business, a dirty business, a violation of the rules, a big profitable one, and here it is profitable to act with non-state tools , economy with putin , and who talked himself into new charges at the international tribunal has lukashenko, why is he there now lukashenko well, first of all, yes , well, what i was told, i had such a hypothesis, i spoke with a very informed person, i was told that on the 24th, contacts there were chinese with lukashenko. i think that they kept the situation under control through lukashenko, maybe

lukashenko agreed with him. here is such a mission for guarantees for prigozhyn in africa. i think that there are interests and lukashenka there, the police there, lukashenko had problems, they even detained some of his people in africa and he needs armed support from the chinese, there are also many economic projects there , but there is no, let’s say, power support , so the wagnerians can be useful. well, part of the combat asset, part of him took part in military operations in ukraine , and part of them all remain in the central african republic. what is known about him? they say that they say that he is now in the luhansk region or in luhansk or , well, in these colors. it is not known there , by the way, not only ducks. and where are we mizyntsev? yes, the other thing is that this is the council of commanders

who made decisions about ray and on that. had a significant participation in the negotiations, he acted as an external arbitrator, but thanks to this, let's say, his weight has increased , indeed, dependence has already arisen on putin's help from him yes , and the bills have already been presented, in particular, the lowest price for oil and gas belarusians all over the world, that is, he already received his bonuses in the economic sense , but his political weight increased, this is not weight inside russia, but he became one of the participants in the game. i think that he can also act as one of the instruments of china's influence. in the post-soviet space, he wants and sends such signals, he wants to be an active negotiator again and return to the role that he had at the beginning of the war, so he felt, he felt that this is a window

of opportunity for him, his popcorn, we will continue to watch and still for now we have popcorn in our hands, we must not forget that our defense forces are currently engaged in bloody battles, so let's help the army, let's not forget about anything , let's not forget about drones, let's not forget about cars , about night vision devices, about everything that is necessary armies, please, let's consolidate and because it seems the final stage and we must be united as never before , everything is about the army absolutely correctly, i will remind you of one more important opinion that was voiced today, we will not wait until it happens yes, we must take an active part in this, we must understand how it happened and explain to them how it will not be valery kondratyuk volodymyr fesenko and oleksiy baranovskyi were on the air of a nationwide telethon when the country trembles from explosions when night becomes

day from flashes we worry about our relatives a they are worried about us, our help forces against air defense are holding the heavenly front they protect us and we must protect them do not shoot and do not post photos and videos of air defense work on the network, because we understand that our main wealth is our people, that is why we are happy for every ukrainian and ukrainians whom we managed to save simply because we know that there is no such thing as a little help and we are ready to support to the best of our ability, each of their shots only strengthens our unity and desire for victory

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safety rules and opportunities to help 1+1 continues national telethon at this time we are working in the format of a discussion platform the night watch and the topic we chose today for our conversation uh, it has been very actively discussed in the last days in society, let's talk about myths and the truth around the zaporizhzhia npp, why did we choose this topic because conversations about that putin wants to provoke explosions at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, they have been going on for about two weeks, but in recent days clear signals have begun to arrive from the main intelligence agency about