[000:00:00;00] and the professional level of the military is gradually rising to the level of mastering all the strengths of your models. yes, it can be said, mr. yaroslav. thank you very much for your explanations on this difficult topic. we understand that there is a ukrainian company that does cool things, nato countries are surprised by this, i want to cooperate with you, and these decisions of yours really strengthen the potential of our armed forces and scare the enemy, so thank you very much for your work, for the work of your team and our i will remind the viewers that the final broadcast from the press was yaroslav kalinin, the director of the company who is the infodefense production center? this is a private company that adds strength to our military in the digital segment, and then after the information break, we will talk about the consequences for russia of the destruction of a number of planes and helicopters, in particular and 22 of these mi-8 tpr and

other models that affect the effectiveness of the russian military administration, we will talk about this with our aviation expert but after the informational break with you vitaliy portnikov and we will discuss the main events of this week vitaly portnikov and top experts about the most striking events of the last seven days, our guest will be the generator of companion forces, the former national security adviser of the president of the united states, donald trump , herbert mcmaster, the artist, all current topics , pressing questions, authoritative comments and forecasts in the informative project marathon with vitaly portnikov every sunday at 20:10 on espresso so we continue our program about war and weapons and now we are in touch

anatoliy hrabchynskyi aviation expert p. anatolyu greetings, press. you can hear me. unfortunately, i am you. we spoke with yaroslav kalinin, the head of the company infosecurity, and he told us about how important it is to fight the enemy's means and systems, which determines the management on the battlefield . we are something else and so, against the background of wagner's march to moscow, we saw that several unique examples of russian and military equipment were destroyed, and british intelligence even said that these losses demoralized the military and space forces of the russian federation, in particular stating the downing of this il-22m plane , what are the consequences and what is the uniqueness of it? how many such planes were the enemy ?

guaranteed stability in the soviet union, such aircraft were produced on the basis of the tu-134 tu-154, and what can i say about the unique uniqueness of this aircraft, in my opinion, then this particular aircraft is laid out in the serial number because this particular the aircraft was purposefully built to serve the leadership in afghanistan and directly to all the presidents of afghanistan until the 79th year, and later it was returned to the ussr and in the 83rd year it was converted from the il-18d and then e-e modified to the il-22 in terms of the number of american intelligence estimates, in fact, the number of aircraft of this type, they call about 12, at the same time, flydglobal is a well-known worldwide expression that calculates the aircraft of different countries and states that there are about 25 such aircraft. but i think that

british intelligence exaggerates and of active aircraft of this type is no more than 7-8 pieces, which may have consequences for the russian army . this is the loss of a control unit, which is difficult to replace due to the limited number available . it is far from the front line in anatoliy, but in addition to the destruction of this command post, several helicopters were also destroyed , i would first of all single out the entire mi-8 e-e tpr planes, i.e. planes for radio electronic warfare, we remember the history that when the russians lost so many such helicopters near the russian border and now we have a continuation of this story what is the peculiarity of these helicopters , how are they used, what is their

potential and why and now it will become less, how will this affect the situation on the battlefield, and this is quite interesting the helicopter is equipped with a system of things e-e, which performs the function of both radio-electronic warfare and radio-electronic intelligence, and this type of helicopter will be adopted by e-e in 2016, although e-e was developed since the soviet in the soviet union in the 90s, at the time the data was put into service, there were only six units. and they planned to increase them to 20. the kremlin's mouthpiece analog net claims that they can suppress everything. and the main thing is to counter the soviet russian and modern western e-e radar stations . this is to illuminate the air

defense and to cover the work of fighters , as we can see on may 13, their month suffered an inevitable loss after meeting with the patriot , so it is already difficult to indicate the invulnerability and invulnerability of these helicopters because in fact we see that they are still misguided and so reliable . you miss the fact that it was the patriots who carried out the attack on the group that was carrying out strikes there with barrages of supplies on our territory and covering themselves with these in the helicopters of the 8 now i well, on my back it is exactly like that and now there is one more nuance that applies to the use of all russian equipment, this is exactly the activation by the enemy using k-52 attack helicopters, which are trying, relatively speaking, to restrain

the advance of our units in the south, they act in the format of such attack groups that try to destroy our armored vehicles, which move sometimes slowly through mined fields, your assessment of such tactics , how to counter this, what does the k-52 rely on when it carries out such strike missions? well, in fact, russia is trying to provide protection of our defense lines, that is exactly why we see deploying a deployed base from these helicopters to the temporarily occupied berdyansk, but the k-52 is primarily designed to work against ground targets, it can be shot down like a visor with e-e means of air defense, how to counter rather e-e, it is the construction of a multi-level system

of radio-electronic warfare and air defense on the front line that will comprehensively protect both offensive operations and front-line functions of constant deployment. i would say as a conclusion that we need more modern means of radio-electronic warfare and air defense that will be capable of suppressing the capabilities of these helicopters and other aircraft and neutralizing them at a certain distance. berdyansk can we assume that this strike was carried out exactly where the russian helicopters and planes were located , because i have not yet seen the latest information about where exactly it was hit, and i assume that berdyansk. for now, it will be

a very important goal for our armed forces, because there is a lot of crowding there, so we are expecting a second chernobyl, i hope that it will really be planned and implemented like this, but when we talk about the k-52, it is, in principle, a familiar example of russian of military equipment, but the enemy is demonstrating a certain dynamic that cannot help but be alarming. this is precisely due to the use of the scaling of planning bombs in the front-line aviation, the bombing of aviation, and the main thing is the scaling of the use of these protective lancet munitions , the question arises again, what conclusions do i have to draw, how to counter it especially with regard to sparing ammunition, if we see on the video that sometimes appears on russian channels , we see that the enemy uses these lancets specifically

for hitting sensitive targets, this is both radar and armored vehicles and e-e art systems, are there options for combating lancets, because i ask this question as an e-e expert to many officials and i hear different answers as to how to counter this. do you have a vision of how to minimize these risks that come from the russian side and in my opinion, the actual fight against lancets and planning these bombs is, well, there are such. i would say there are two solutions to this problem, the first is again the construction of a multi-level system of electronic warfare and air defense, which complex will protect it to suppress or destroy e-e in relation to the same lancets from the same e-e bombs that are dropped, that is, e-e, a properly constructed system can blind the means by which it

is dropped correctly, it will be an excellent system , it can either destroy at the time of launch or already on approach and the second is thanks to well, i am convinced that this is probably the most effective way , it is thanks to sabotage groups or for active uavs to destroy not only logistics and supply, but also the place of assembly and production , moreover, no less attention should be paid to the engineering staff who work at these factories, they make weapons that kill ukrainians, so they are also an important target. and uh, another question that still concerns technical means of countermeasures, in particular, the creation of the so-called trench puzzle, the creation of systems that can apparently affect the use of uh the opponent of barrage munitions of various scales in various capacities, to what extent

is this direction technologically achievable for ukrainian companies, are there samples or examples of when we can really expect the appearance of a sample there that can better fight the same with a lancet that flies up to the object that he wants to attack, and just like fighting for lancets with martyrs, is there potential in our companies to create competitors, samples, and definitely ukrainian potential is very big a-a i want to note that well, for example, in the company piranhi the test time of the station is passing, which is capable of suppressing gps channels, controlling telemetry and many other things, short distances, but it is necessary. if the e-e system, it is possible to solve the problem of destruction and protection against such means as

the lancet, and martyrs, in addition to suppressing the channels there is no gps mileage and control, it is necessary to change the coordinates, that is, the so-called spoofing , e.e. by diverting from the target and coordinating the flight to more easily destroy the same cheetah. yes, there are promising developments on the neutralization of nobles by electromagnetic means, but let’s not feed the enemy with information, e.e. i will only say that ukrainian developers are now uniting to make very cool products that are capable of creating problems for the enemy, and when we talk about ukrainian potential, we are talking about the fact that the war is becoming more and more the involvement of robotic platforms, in particular drones, and the question arises as to how realistic this process is related to the swarm use of e-e strike air systems , do we have the ability to really outrun the enemy and move on, it is better not from

the individual use of certain munitions, or i will answer drones to a larger-scale application in the swarm format , how realistic is it in the current conditions, and the reality of the conditions , well, let's say it is very real. yes, let's look at it a little differently. russia is the prototype of the soviet union on a new level, that's why we perceive its production as mass. it's simply systematized . our production is no less mass, but it's not systematized . an acquaintance who is engaged in the production of kamikaze drones, and in fact this direction is not developing very much in our country, and

thanks to the existing assistance from the state, for example, he conducts a lot of events that help developers to unite, make teams, look for some new ways to solve these problems, and what could actually be such factors that would really speed up the scaling of the production of drones in ukraine and, well , the deployment of such new centers of competence in ukraine. what do you think we lack so far and where do we have there to break such bottlenecks a-a look a-a we have a high-tech war going on at the moment. that is, we are faced with the fact that most of the components that can now not be used on the

front line are tools that have just appeared which they were just invented, they did not go through certain processing, but they are tested directly already on the front line, for the most part, and that is why we are faced, i think, mostly with bureaucratic problems. suitable for the weapons that are currently being developed , we understand even with that uh, radio electronic warfare, radioactive warfare 30 years ago. there is a station r140 or 845 or a radio squadron station of some kind and from that we understand. yes, there is a platoon of a company, a brigade or some kind of battalion . now radio electronic warfare is a struggle against ordinary drones, which until recently were just shooting weddings there, which were easily available for sale. and now these drones carry

out a mission both for dropping ammunition and for reconnaissance, so the standards are changing, and the state needs to speed up these changes a little, and even more so during hostilities. i am thinking of simplifying this system a little. you have information about which western countries or companies can be such partners to speed up the creation of more effective, in particular, those strike drones or fish means, in particular, the same israel, the united states, how do you think the interaction is happening here, are there restrictions or no restrictions in order to strengthen our the potential of ah-ah-ah actually again at the moment what is happening is that our western partners some uh accept our experience they see uh new systems of application

they are all again this is something that never there was more before that, you understand, i’m saying that if we used to accept unmanned aerial vehicles, we’ll be with amperakhtar something big , yes . there are some more. reaches the level of one munition, which can be imagined to be an ordinary anti-swamp , so i think that here we can get some technological help from countries such as the united states, e-e, israel, japan, and for the most part, the equipment itself is developed enough strength to develop. moreover, since we have the boyarka field, everything is continuously checked and implemented. you mentioned the piraniya tech company. i know that you know enough, well, in detail, what this company can do and manufacture, and i saw in the phrase

of one of the owners of this company as he says about what we partially implement here in ukraine. the experience we gained in israel , we want to make ukrainian products no worse than israeli ones. when we talk about fish products, the question arises. do i have they say that we have options to obtain some technological solutions from israel or to make with our own hands those samples that will fight with martyrs and with lancets . specialists who, before that, worked for many years in israeli companies, and therefore there is experience and there are opportunities . i think that here it is necessary to connect at the level of states in order to discuss these issues and bring this, uh, into such a discussion that would be would be

at the level of the state leadership but i think that in we have enough opportunities to also try this path for ourselves and make what new developments, because i say again, i want to repeat that what is happening now on the front line has never happened before and no one has seen this that is, we are now developing a new experience, a new variant of military operations is being developed thanks to high-tech means. the forecasted order for those samples manufactured by our companies there or drones or means of rap. how do you evaluate this component? what are the forecasted indicators and loading of our enterprises? i think that the state, assessing

the situation and seeing what some companies are developing, understands how much it will have to invest in this the industry, how much it will be necessary to develop this industry, and i think that we will be able to take the first place among the countries that after the war will be able to teach others and offer products, something like the iron occupation of israel, therefore, i have such prospects in any case p anatoly thank you very much for your professional comments, i hope that we will continue cooperation with you on the air on the channels from the press, and i will remind our viewers that on the air was anatoliy khabchyn aviation expert so, against the background of the conversation with our industrialists and experts can conclude that we have all the prerequisites for our army to become powerful precisely at the expense of new weapons and technologies, the more developed

in ukraine, as we can see. what is that experience in ukraine now they are very interested in the nato countries, which also understand that they will have to fight with the russian federation after a certain time if russia does not change its policy, and it is quite accumulated today on the a-a battlefield in ukraine will be important for them as well, and on the other hand, we we must understand that in addition to the technologies of the weapons samples , the training of the personnel is of great importance, which was actually said by the head of the infozakhist company, yaroslav kyrigin, that we are creating cool samples, but now we need to ensure that these samples are effective were used on the battlefield. so this combination of skills and modern weapons is actually the platform and the basis that will really ensure victory on the battlefield, so, uh , i spoke with the guests of our military program on this quite complex topic. express, which currently works in

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mechanisms to punish the criminal of the hundred countries ua saturday at seven in the morning, the 493rd day of full-scale war between russia and ukraine began in oter news on espresso in angelika's studio for a season, three wounded and among them a child on in the kherson region , a residential building in the village of antonivka was hit by the russian army , the head of the region oleksandr prokutin noted