[000:00:00;00] from the assault battalions, aidaru was in touch with us, stay with the press with andriy sledochok, we will return to the air at 2:00 p.m. and continue our marathon, we still have a lot of interesting topics. well, the actual espresso test continues, but espresso is always interesting to ukraine this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko. i congratulate everyone and i wish everyone good health. today, together with major from the armed forces of ukraine and grom lapin, political expert volodymyr tsibulko and retired united states army major john spencer, we will talk about the counteroffensive the military mutiny of the ukrainian army in russia and how the world is trying to curb putin, i will traditionally start with information about the losses of russians in ukraine

, 228,340 russians have already died in ukraine in the last day alone , the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 560 people since the beginning of the great war, russians have already lost 4,041 in ukraine and 7,863 armored combat vehicles 4,127 artillery systems 630 rocket salvo systems 389 air defense systems 315 aircraft 308 helicopters 780 units of motor vehicles 18 ships boats 1261 winged aircraft rocket 3519 drones 569 units of special equipment because we are friends we speak not only live on the espresso tv channel but also on our youtube platform today we are conducting a survey there, we ask you about this , do you know what to do in the event of a terrorist act by russians at the zaporizhzhia nuclear

power plant yes no please vote in our survey at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i want to introduce today's first guest - this is ihor lapin, a special officer, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a people's deputy of the eighth convocation, mr. igor, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. i wish you good health. glory to ukraine . glory to the heroes. glory to the heroes, mr. igor. today, the supreme commander-in-chief's vote was held among the questions of the successor. the situation in belarus was also resolved. the head of the north command, serhii naev , talked about how the situation is developing there after the private military company wagner moved there, although just

a few days ago, general budanovy president zelensky assured us that there are no threats from the north or from the northern front, according to you, whether it persists and whether we can defeat this threat , considering that the new yorker has already published satellite images that show that in belarus wagners begin to set up tent cities well , let's be honest, the threat from the north has never disappeared. the question is how strong it can be and what it can be strengthened with. so we have an understanding that the military infantry let's say so without heavy weapons, in principle, they cannot make a deep breakthrough there, well, they can make a raid on wheeled vehicles, but for this you need roads, if

i'm not mistaken, there are only 13 roads from the belarusians to ukraine. there were also forests through the forest. well , heavy, perhaps, but we remember very well how the russians wandered when they went to kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, and sumy oblast at one time in the 22nd year ago, the story is like this, the question is, are we ready for frontiers there, well, frontiers were being prepared almost, well, let’s say so. they are preparing and by today they are building mini barricades , bathing trenches, trenches of the oboro line, etc. which was as of the previous let's say yes to the previous year i believe that there are not enough forces and means there are not enough machine guns there are not enough different types of grenade launchers and i, well, i can't

speak there now for sure, i don't have such information but i don't think that there are any artillery means concentrated there in large quantities, which are necessary in order to deter possible attacks from the enemy from the north , because well, let's not forget that we have a border with belarus, if i'm not mistaken, more than 900 kilometers ago, such a story. are we can we notice in advance the deployment of combat e-e battle formations yes we can can we notice in advance the accumulation of forces in one or another direction yes we can and thank god for sure already in the 23rd year no one will say instead of raiding trenches and poor kebabs, i think that the leadership of the country already has enough rivets. well, the understanding of the citizens of ukraine . in this regard, we need to prepare for such a story.

directions. well, in general, any kind of equipment . that is, these are the so-called manual grenade launchers and so on. this is what is needed. this is so that there will always be a shortage, just so that you understand. but not because the military is so very greedy. iron-clad, precisely because it really is machine guns and anti-tank weapons, everything, everything, everything, everything that flies a little farther than just and harder than a bullet . we always needed it, and this is the reality of today, mr. major. to belarus and from one friend of putin lukashenka, another friend, a beautiful woman to talk about it. what does this mean, because he is shriveled up, well, he behaves as if he did not commit military mutiny, as if he did not shoot down all the helicopters and one plane and

calmly looks like some kind of movement the combination of the federal security service is just not completely clear, the purpose of these reshuffles is to move prigozhin from russia to belarus, well, look. the fact is that it is very difficult to analyze the actions of that madman, of course, but what i paid attention to is now just a statement of experts at the crossing of the ukrainian-russian border , the fsb forces , the so-called border troops of russia, did not open fire, why is this a question mark, we put it just like this, this is how we write it down, we write it down on a pencil, further , we have it, skillful movement of the column, skillful rafting the planned movement was not actually the capture of the cities, but they drove in and then left the same voronezh, they went around lipetsk , well, roughly speaking, they did not storm and on land, no one opposed them, what

was flying, they shot down everything that flies as a potential threat to the convoy yes, of course, this is a fact the question is that now there are a lot of prigozhyn experts and bunker experts . to be honest, i am not in the role of an expert, but what i draw attention to is the following things, so there is information that prigozhyn is still recently appeared on the territory of russia, that's why other information is produced by budanov and ukrainian languages ​​about the fact that the fsb allegedly received a task to eliminate prigozhin, well, such a task. it always exists in any system of the indicator regime, even during peacetime. as they say but thanks to the palace intrigues and the apparatus wars that happen all the time in russia , that's why there is such a threat. of course there is, but let's speak frankly to putin today in order to show that he is still great, he must

be ordered to do so. he must do it no matter what otherwise, he will have to send twins and triplets to the streets of different cities to kiss passers-by for a long time. well, we understand. why is all this being done? putin is in place. putin controls everything. putin is great . putin with the people and so on, but i emphasize once again that he must now to restore, something has shaken in the eyes of the whole planet, and in the eyes of the whole planet, what has shaken is that putin , let's put it this way, appeared on television, something was wet from that , and then the situation changed. in this way he did not restore his, well, let's say his status as a dictator and ruler of russia. so, in this situation, he only has to remove the wagnerites, er , by destroying them at once or gradually, or by giving them some opportunities. well, let's be frank , not all wagnerites entered belarus, there is

a part wagnerites who are still on the territory of ukraine, there is a part of the wagnerites who are in training camps, if i am not mistaken, there near rostov, so the question is whether they will be forced into the armed forces under contract or not, i think they will not all be forced because, let's say, they came out for the sake of freedom, they went and signed a contract with a victim, then they were given the freedom to sign a contract a second time, the lion's share of them will not want to, but putin will need to deal with incidents in order to restore his status. to decide whether to go somewhere or not to go is already a debatable issue e there i heard that bohdanov or someone there talked to ours that there seems to be a task and they have to catch him in africa, well, the planet is not so big for that was not so special. and this person will always be followed by not only a trail of blood, but also a trail of money, because without money it is very expensive to run. so even in this case, money

will always be found. i understand that there are diamonds, diamonds and everything that can to be like a black man, to be used and successfully in the beautiful world, but i emphasize once again, well, the question now is that putin’s restoration of his reputation is worth it for russia. it seems so to me, mr. igor, but in this context, can ukraine become a place for putin to restore or to strengthen my reputation conditionally, i put a couple of reputations in quotation marks, because over the past few weeks, the ukrainian authorities have been talking about the preparation of a terrorist act by the russians at the zaporizhia npp, and the gur reports that , according to the latest data, the occupation contingent is gradually leaving the territory of zaporizhia, those who came to the power plant left first since a few days ago, there were a few people who were watching what was happening at the station , now the number of patrols in energodar

is decreasing, the military is gradually leaving, can the zaporizhia npp become a place where putin will demonstrate to the world, including russia, that after all, he has power and power, including over nuclear power plants, which can be transformed into weapons. well, let's be honest , if we say this in the context of prigozhin, then he it is not necessary, because in order to prove that he defeated prigozhin, it is necessary to remove prigozhin, and the zaporizhzhya nuclear issue is of a more global nature. well, not in order to restore his reputation, especially on the territory of russia, because he suffered a fiasco there reputable in russia and all over the world, but the main thing happened on the territory of russia, because once i emphasize that he needs it, it is necessary for the beauties. it seems to me that for this, as for the zaporizhzhia direction, i

have already said the same as the kakhovskaya hpp , anything if the russians brought they don't import explosives just to look at it like that, that means they will blow it up , you know the fact, which in principle has never been refuted by anything . they left, that's why the situation of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is quite dire . to be honest, the reaction of the western partners is frankly stressful in the context that they reacted very weakly to the environmental disaster associated with the kakhovka hydroelectric power station. the rich spinelessly came, looked, left, and the most terrible thing about this situation is that this kind of weakness is precisely and it unties its hands for impunity , that's why it worried me, secondly, i

really don't like it when western partners with on the one hand, putin's threats are very serious. this is the first half of the sentence, and in the second half of the sentence, they say, but it is unlikely, that it is about the use of nuclear weapons in general, tactical nuclear weapons, and so on, that is, in fact, in the second half of the sentence , they deny the beginning, and this makes me very nervous because if putin's threats are serious , well, thank you for fulfilling the function of newsmakers, but frankly, i would prefer to see actions that would make it impossible for putin to carry out these threats, that is, actions to prejudice don't dig up the crap that will already fall on our heads. well, you understand, that is, it acts on prejudice, it can also save money for western partners. well , if they are worried about money, it was uh, then

dig up. well, somewhere they say how much there is, a few there i don't know, a lot of territory can be contaminated. that is, well, it's all agriculture, it's competition , let's say, grain stuff all over the world, they 'll just bury it all in ukraine if they blow up the zaporizhzhia direction. do you understand that? well, of course putin understands. well, what difference does it make to him than to blackmail the world with gas in the winter or bread in the summer, well, what difference does it make to him with what to blackmail in order to achieve his or other tasks? hunger in africa, you will suffer hunger in africa now ukrainian grain we rather, russia has already increased export of grain by 30%. well, they can now turn off this faucet and not exploit anything at all, they will export , then prices will go up, there will be problems. well

, what is the difference, well, he blackmailed me with gas now grain, the day after tomorrow, ecology, the day after tomorrow, nuclear things, i remember very well how before the war in the 21st year, the surrender resistance movement and i, we all said that putin is not just a terrorist, he is an ecological terrorist, he is a nuclear terrorist, he is a man-made terrorist . see everything he said the lackov games are taking place today. well, it hasn't reached nuclear yet, but this is, in my opinion, the last argument that putin can use. well, there's nowhere else to go, friends. we work live on the espresso tv channel and on our platform. on youtube, we ask you about this: do you know what to do in the event of a terrorist attack by russians at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but as of now, 72% do not understand what to do in the event of a terrorist attack on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant , only 28% say that yes, this is a poll, sir

ihorya testifies to the fact that, well, this communication failure of the authorities, that there is a lot of talk about the fact that a terrorist attack could be at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but that as a result of this terrorist attack, there may be an urgent evacuation there or buy iodine iodized potassium there or god knows what's up that is, there are no explanations and explanations for that. and what to do if it suddenly tears. that is, the whole problem is that our communication geniuses do not tell anything through their bini marathon. but, on the other hand , tarot card experts, horoscopes, and other types of experts in our country come out, even if i'm not wrong. well, i won't advertise, but mr. komarovsky, who is a pediatrician , talked about the principles of the zaporizhzhia nuclear reactor and how it differs from the chernobyl nuclear reactor. you understand , that is, we now have so many experts that people they really get lost in that flow of information

. although, on the other hand, we must give credit to the ministry of health has already developed algorithms that are now circulating in social networks, but this is for those who have noticed. i think that this should happen 24/7 non-stop to the state of ukraine. i think that the so-called evacuation trains should be formed if you consider that there is a real threat there on the fifth day or on the day itself then and so on, well, we have a great seer of budanov, he can predict the date and so on well, that means then cook in acacia trains and evacuate people, not later, when they will already think that our hospitals are all full. and i also urge all my friends, there is an opportunity to go somewhere, it is better to go calmly now, roughly speaking, somewhere to rest, somewhere i don’t know, in nature, on barbecues, only somewhere in zachandya well, i'm already poisoning ukraine, of course. but nevertheless, i'll stay in that period until it's clear what will happen next. although i'm sure that putin is with me

. thank you, mr. igor, for the conversation. it was igor lapin, a specially appointed officer of the armed forces. major of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube , please like this video , subscribe to our e-e pages and in youtube on facebook you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel by going here is this qr-code , i hope now our directors will show you can find additional information on how to join our sponsor club any help from you is helpful to us. well, then we are in touch with volodymyr tsibulko , political expert, people's deputy of the fourth convocation, volodymyr. i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. congratulations , let's start with trump, because trump, the former

president of the united states of america, considers that ukraine may have to cede some territory to stop the hostilities let's hear what trump said i want people to stop dying because of this senseless war i think the biggest thing the united states of america should do right now is establish peace unite russia and ukraine it's time to do it i think the ukrainians have the right to keep most of what they earned and i think russia would also agree to that you need the right mediator or negotiator and we don't have one now of course it is the unread text was trump, not trump himself , oleksandr muschevka said it, but still, mr. volodymyr, in your opinion, trump is already preparing

the world community for the fact that ukraine has, as they say, to accept a new territorial reality, so diplomatic a new concept was introduced by moscow, and there it simply plays along with moscow, why why now trump is starting to talk about this, that peace can only be under one condition when ukraine simply gives up those territories that are already under russia, well, first of all, trump created his own group like this trumpian within the republican party and this group is engaged in constant revision of american-ukrainian relations. it always promotes skepticism of support for ukraine and er. unfortunately, this group even includes the ukrainian-born viktoria

sparci, who insists that because in a corrupt government in ukraine cannot help ukraine well, it is not the government that is fighting, the people are fighting in this case and trump cannot, in any way, recognize the court, let's put it this way , the subjectivity of the ukrainian people. by the way, he is putin's partner, because putin's the fact that the people can be a subject is also not included, so trump is following the path of simplifying the ukrainian-russian war , or that it is a russian-ukrainian war, and according to this simplification, he usually offers, like every populism, such ridiculous and primitive recipes the main thing is that a certain stratum of people in the usa are led to these recipes and so far this allows trump to maintain the leadership among the republicans for the nomination, that is , for the nomination of the candidate of the only candidate from

the french for the post of president, but the other day mike pence visited kyiv more serious, i.e., such a classic republican and the words of the brush are completely different from the words of trump, in which he was the vice president, you can say that the classic is just the brushes, we will now listen to what the brush said, we need to make sure that we provide the ukrainian military with what they really need in order to repel russia and defeat the united states will continue to support it, this will make it clear to russia, china and any other countries in the world that the free world will not tolerate aggression, free countries will stand together for freedom, it is clear, mr. volodymyr, that it begins as a truer the election campaign in the united states

of america has begun, and according to you, these are two wings that are constantly beautiful, useful for ukraine in the united states of america, and if trump is on these positions, if trump wins the elections of the united states of america, he will constantly push ukraine to this unfavorable peace, because it is clear that the states play a very important role in the russian-ukrainian war and financing , ideologically, it is meant to support our victory. and washington sets the trend for other countries of the world. well, first of all, it is necessary to explain to the audience that even if trump wins , he will become the president of the united states only in

january of the 25th year. dynamic is the first, the second, trump has a huge conflict with the republicans there, with the republican party, in particular with this reagan wing of the classic republicans, because trump is such a guest, even though he has a photo with reagan and he even invested in my opinion, reagan's campaign, but at one time he broke pots with the republicans. well, now , due to historical circumstances, he became a candidate and even a winner from the republicans, he was president, but the problem is that from the warmer republican radically against trump and now they still can't do anything to, er, a little device trump trump so far, er, well, starting

before all the nominations, he collects the most i would say a reactive group of supporters of the republican party, the so-called adviser , that is, provincials whose deeply complex and canned people who lost their jobs as a result of the development of technology and they believe that they can return to a plow or a plow and so on . well, trump is still their leader, but unfortunately trump poisons the consciousness of normal people normal republicans, and it is a shame if such wise people as those with brushes do not fall into the uh actually candidates for the post of president of trump and others who doubt our victory explained what is happening in

ukraine now, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhna, who gave an angry interview washington in a row he said that now there is not enough fighters without superiority in the air, it is very difficult and he said that it is not necessary for ukraine to have 120 f16 fighters, it is much more modest to have an air fleet of the armed forces of ukraine they talked about the fact that this is not a show and every meter is given with blood, so he reacted to the high expectations and how the counteroffensive is perceived in the world , including what they expect from this counteroffensive. without a full supply, these plans for a counteroffensive are not possible at all, but they are carried out . yes, maybe not as quickly as the participants

of the show and the observers would like, but these are their problems . what do you think? the high command of the armed forces of ukraine now has a high level of support among ukrainians, and it is possible that other leaders of our country are jealous of this support . the fact is that general zaluzhny enjoys simply great authority among the military of the whole world, and it is necessary to remind about the context of this the interview appeared just as a continuation of other information, e.e. , published on the pages of the washington post , actually information about the fact that it is time to allocate that ukraine is ripe for anti-cam missiles and it is time

to allocate anti-cam missiles and in parallel with this there was information that the sources of the american defense department are considering the idea of ​​transferring cluster munitions to ukraine, these cluster munitions have now served us a lot and could replace the aviation for a certain time, and this is so. an offensive at least 100 km deep along the front . it would be possible to keep it because the interview of general zaluzhnyi appeared in your compost for a reason. that after the blowing up of the kakhovka hpp, you can't mess with russia anymore, you need to arm ukraine to the maximum. well, it's obvious . obviously, washington is considering various options regarding

the use of nuclear weapons or nuclear energy. conditionally speaking, i won't say weapons because... in the hands of the russians and zaporizhia, the power plant there is a weapon, because russia is a terrorist country that has kept a nuclear facility under control for 15 months, which had never happened before in world history when terrorists seized a nuclear facility station nuclear plant and the whole world was blackmailed biden says that the reality that the russians can use tactical nuclear weapons is also high enough according to you, will putin not go for a further increase in rates because he always plays to raise rates first er annexation of crimea then occupation of certain districts of donetsk and luhansk regions then further