[000:00:00;00] land in the air or on the sea, wherever you praise reshkostan, a wooden ruble will stick in your throat, move, write about black cellophane . this was a collaborator 's program. together we will send all the traitors after the russian ship , we will see it in a week on the espresso broadcast, dear friends we are coming back avatar as promised this morning andriy saichuk and lesya vakulyuk from 2:00 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. with pennies it seems we will be in the wind today. i hope that you will have an interesting time with us. we have many

interesting topics to discuss, and about the war , of course, and about politics, and also about dubbing in the ukrainian language. should it be canceled or not ? it will also be on our airwaves, which i want to say thank you very much, we had 16,000 left, and in my opinion, 50 two kopecks to collect half a million hryvnias for the purchase of less than 16,000 and there should have been one kopeck, all these we collected the money with you in the previous three hours of the airwaves, it is very very cool, i am very grateful to you, and even i joined this collection , as always, yes. well, what is it, this week, our viewers , you somehow turned on such an excitement that we were getting closer to the 500,000 mark, so, so it collected faster, it’s nice because

now a lot of people i know and, in principle, famous people write in ukraine that it has become very difficult to collect money, people are really tired, maybe a little bit, i don’t know, fortunes are somehow falling. by the way, in almost all regions of ukraine without except for the exception, people said in the survey that their incomes fell over the last year, with the exception of the icon of the city of uzhgorod. and so in uzhhorod, while the average income of people increased, well, this obviously happened due to the fact that for many ukrainians from the center and east of ukraine, uzhhorod became the farthest point from the front and you can see that many people with money went there, those kharkiv rappers who litter with money and also hit passers-by on the list for what they will do to them, pay attention to what they tell we will talk about the sad but there will be a referral, we will talk about the other border of ukraine, the one who is in touch with belarus with us, ivan marka, a deputy of the volyn regional council, a representative

of the volyn self-defense public formation , we will actually talk now about the mood of the people in volyn with the fact that there are some camps for the wagnerites or for whom lukashenko is building prigozhyn is moving to belarus volodymyr zelenskyi eventually instructed to strengthen the border with belarus p ivane congratulations, greetings studio greetings from the very in the north of volyn, half a kilometer behind me is lake svityaz and another 10 km to the belarusian border. how can you hear me, studio, can you hear me in volyn mosquitoes from svityaz, i don’t know if they scare belarusians and muscovites, because muscovites say that our ukrainian mosquitoes are scary , but those

on svityaz i remember from my childhood the bloodthirsty mosquitoes, eh, i congratulate you, well, until the day, who are mosquitoes hiding in the same way as muscovites and belarusians? well, in the evening, they usually appear a little on the horizon, eh. recently , you and valeriy had a good time means to you indeed, in the north, general zaluzhny was passing through that border. and they actually checked how everything was ready . they assume that up to 8,000 wagnerians can move to camps specially equipped for them . well, they like the camps a lot, too . and it is close to the border with ukraine from the belarusian side, how much the threat has now become more tangible, perhaps for the residents of your region, you know during the war, it has been more than a year, we citizens of ukraine and

the people of volhynia are already, let's say, used to less talk on the air, including about what is happening at our border, but the only thing i can say is that nothing has changed at the border and our soldiers occupy all positions , they are fully equipped in all armor , that is, they do not lose their vigilance, they absolutely fulfill their tasks, it also helps the weather is still good, because everything is flooded and what was dug near the roads, what was dug along the border, the various earthen fortifications, they are all in the water, and in fact it will be very difficult for belarusians to pass through this territory and

not only her because of the mosquitoes. well, you shouldn’t lose your vigilance. and although in the end to travel here, for example, for the tourist season . and now it’s july 1, i see that there are quite a few people. and today i went through shatskyi and saints. people are in no hurry to go to svityaz . well, it’s possible. depending on the weather, it is possible and because of the fact that the war is due to the fact that there are many roadblocks on the road to svityaz to shatsk. this is the situation , but i would like to, in principle , profits have seriously fallen there on the shatsk lakes. i understand the local people, who i believe very seriously, because it was actually very tourist-oriented here. if you compare it with other rural people like shatsk or svityaz, then there are much fewer people

who keep livestock, that is, they are more oriented to baking donuts, er, fish or salting or making rams or providing accommodation services, they are designed for this, so of course this region suffers from this situation quite significantly. and how long before this full-scale invasion of belarusians came to shatsky lakes, were there any who wanted to rest in volyn? well in fact, you could always meet belarusians at the shatsky lakes, that is, even when entering any store. you could always meet people from belarus at the checkout. well, they also came here, including for purchases. that is, they were also interested in our products of our production here, and there are the community of the family is ukrainian, belarusian, they went to visit today, according to family circumstances

, that is, belarus was always met here, and there were never any problems with that, because even in particular, near shatsk itself, there are as many as two crossings , and they used them accordingly, and here it is enough not far from the last survey. by the way, this is a logical one. it shows that more than half of ukrainians now treat belarus as an enemy state . has it changed in the same way for you on the border ? crimes were committed against the territory, you can say, as trite as it may sound, the brotherly people , that is, it is an extremely terrible situation, i don't know what is going on inside them, but i don't know for sure that our ukrainians

have changed a lot, including before belarus what well, it's hard to consider them friends, it's hard to consider them normal people in general well, how can that be? well, i know for sure that the ukrainians would never allow such a thing. by the way, speaking affirmatively, you say that you could always meet a lot of very belarusians before a full-scale invasion. and how about you they were distinguished from, for example, there, i don’t know, well, not belarusians, they are there. i understand there that no one speaks belarusian very much , not even in the villages. well , actually, you understand, here in volyn, we can feel any accents very well, for example, there are volhynian accents, which are characteristic of the city of lutsk in particular. yes, there is already a polish accent, which is characteristic of kovel, including shatsk, there is a galician accent, and polish, and accordingly, belarusian accents are also

noticed and divided by us, we understand it. well, in the end, we are never ashamed to ask where are you from, because many people from kyiv and galicia come to us and from other regions, so it was interesting for everyone to get to know each other here. well, now ukrainians also get to know each other in such a specific way. it will definitely be difficult for you, you know, there are two very interesting points on which i would like to focus attention and the fact that today there are rumors about wagner, someone refutes them , someone, on the contrary, emphasizes this issue, but we must remember several very serious things , the first thing is that we must remember who and to whom gave the wagnerians in 2020, remember this. where

did they go and where were they given, and who then handed it back to russia to those wagnerians, so the connection between lukashenko and wagner is very, very strong, and it seems to me that the second fact in because wagner on the territory of ukraine began to destroy him, including our forces began to destroy him for the vast majority and he er this is what the situation was in russia, it was including his escape from ukraine was it staged or was it so and it was as it was shown to us, but he fled from ukraine, and from these two options , the following question arises in my mind . it is weighed with all

strictness and to understand what may await us in the future. well, it cannot be rejected either. then they can do exactly what they do in many african countries , when they are actually mercenaries who support one or another regime for money so that it is not overthrown, for example by the people or and was he going to do whatever you want, whatever lukashenka's father wants, uhu, because you understand who father gave him, and you understand that lukashenko's father, it's true , they don't call him so certain here that he will wring out of him accordingly, this is also the falcon, that's why, considering the situation of the handsome man, that's why i'm looking at it like this, with such a suspicion that something is not very good, but our soldiers know very well what these guys are capable of and therefore, there is no pity for them, there are no illusions, taking into account such attachment

to belarus and closeness to belarusians, you say that no one names lukashenko's father, but before the full-scale invasion, there were many people in volyn who said that lukashenko was there the good owner built roads there, well, that's what i heard from ukrainians. how many such supporters were there in volyn? as i'm talking right now , they hit the bull's eye with this question. in the north of polissia, as in the north of ukraine, in polissia before the presidential elections, a film crew of one tv channel went and asked who you will vote for, so here in one of the ukrainian villages, a woman said very simply of course, according to lukash yes yes but

it would probably be interesting to ask her now, well, you know that the situation has changed a lot . and as statistics say, trouble has not escaped any ukrainian family. injuries are true, but you know what kind there is, i will allow myself also seven people, yes, for each person somewhere, this or a relative or a close person from the kyiv international institute of sociology will testify that 47 seems if i am not mistaken percent of ukrainians said that someone close enough to them has already died. that is, it is either a relative or a person whom they knew very well. well, to be honest, for example, i have statistics, but we understand that even half of the way has not yet been completely completed, but you know about the attitude towards lukashenka allow us to remind you that 15 years ago , many ukrainians in our country considered

putin to be the ideal of a leader. putin was the most popular foreign leader in general, and just like now we have, for example, biden there, duda the polish, and so on, the leaders of such foreign countries politicians, we had putin and he was considered more popular than there, who was there then, kuchma or who. that's what you think. people you see . ukraine has gone through difficult times, its state of economic collapse, because what was created on, say, such communist, socialist foundations, and in belarus it was not destroyed after all, and it was supported by these naftogaz dollars or russian rubles, and we can see what it has led to . well, to what extent lukashenko is dependent on all that, he is now on his own with of one side well, but we people of course sympathized with the fact that there was order and so on

, but in fact it kept a lot of other things behind it. and in recent years , ukraine began to develop rapidly and agriculture began to recover , new companies were created, and i do not think that today those who worked in modern new companies and agricultural ones will miss the kolkhoz that is now being built in belarus . that is how we ask one more neighbor at the end . poland is also nearby, moreover , the anniversary of the volyn tragedy is approaching and in poland they will definitely be celebrated especially since poland in 2016 said that it was a genocide of the polish people and even now , during the full-scale invasion, there were such opinions in poland from, for example, the spokesman of their ministry of foreign affairs, who actually lost his position after that how did he make such a statement? he said that he expects

a bigger apology from volodymyr zelenskyi. what do you think about the conditions in which we are now in the historical conditions when the poles provide us with such help so that we should do as it were we should have behaved in the way that remembering the events of 1943, you know, you hit the bull's eye again, because in fact i am a direct descendant of those people who were destroyed in volyn one by one in one of the villages in such a very bright village at that time, my mother came from the village by the way, president poroshenko came there to commemorate this date. i also grew up in my hometown. let me tell you, my childhood came in this village, and my grandmother, until last year, until this year, until the spring of this year, was the last

resident of the village who survived volynska tragedy and the ukrainians lived very well with the poles, including in this village, but these circumstances, which were formed, including by the soviet authorities, led to such a great tragedy, and i am convinced that the same authorities, the authorities of moscow, will do everything possible to stir up such ugly things again moods between our peoples, we have to go through a cultural and historical process to survive, try not to make harsh statements, try to keep our position, of course, and survive, including this new date, but there will be provocations from moscow and they will incite both the ukrainian and the polish right-wing state elite in order to exacerbate this issue in order to reduce the mood of poles, including in helping

ukrainians thank you mr. ivan for your answers for our conversation ivan myrka mp of the volyn state let's go especially since i'm half volyn girl , my father is from volyn, that's why i have about the grandmother , that's it, so, so, everyone has some roots from volyn, ivan marka, a deputy of the volyn regional council , a representative of the volyn self-defense public formation, was in touch with us. next , we will analyze the situation at the front stay with us it will literally in a few minutes it is difficult to get up and climb the stairs old injuries and sprains constantly remind of themselves with a sharp pain you need help the knee brace moves easily a reliable assistant for the joints order right now with a discount for only uah 199 will fix tightly will reduce stress and tension and will significantly

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in particular, said that he heard why so slowly the counteroffensive advances and said such words that somehow it became creepy from them but i understand that he probably most quickly turned to those who are sitting somewhere abroad and are monitoring the situation in ukraine and may be monitoring it as if watching some movie there or from some computer by a computer game why so slowly and how so he said that the counteroffensive will be difficult and bloody well, also the head of the cia secretly visited ukraine so we actually found out after the fact very much even this here is such a glimpse of a time gap and here well here they say that in general he visited last month, that was a secret visit by the head of the cia. well, or tsegry, and it’s correct to say yes. less with that

. how do you know? i don't know how it will be people's commissar, people's commissar of intelligence and so on, but less so with the cia, the head of the cia allegedly discussed with zelensky the return of the territory to kyiv, and they allegedly told him that the ukrainian side shared its plans about how we will end the war already this year at the end of the year, they seem to hope, they hope in kyiv that it will be possible to liberate at least most of the territory of ukraine and close access to crimea and start negotiations with the russian federation already then. is this really so, we don't know, it's all leaked again, leaked to jones island it seems that they wrote whether washington got your base here, but we know that in principle when it comes to this-a part and hey and this is riga . if you want such an old regime soviet e-e model, then it is always of course and always it

can always be in a special it let's discuss what this visit, which we learned about after the fact, means for ukraine, let's talk with oleksandr kovalenko, the city's political observer of the information resistance group, oleksandr, we congratulate you. good day. we learned only this week that he was the leader of ukraine in ukraine, so that's not enough. is it a bad signal or a good one? well, why is it a bad signal? you have to look at things optimistically, but such people don't just go around the world, especially not visiting ukraine, which is in in a state of full-scale war, thereby risking a part of his life, and because who knows what can happen on the day when

this a-a visit is realized, and therefore the topics were very important. of our territories and further steps a-a, of course , all this was a topic for discussion, and in addition, i am sure that questions were raised about providing ukraine with this or that intelligence information from the agency , so this is a comprehensive visit. and what about the review the medium-term perspective of our activation and our actions in the combat zone, as well as regarding this information, which can be separated directly, as they say by word of mouth, and not through any other channels or third parties, on july 11, it seems that there will be a summit in vilnius, a nato summit, at which we hope that we are already receiving some next some next stage let's say this invitation

for ukraine to join the north atlantic alliance, we understand that until the end of the war, or at least until the end of such an acute phase of the war, we will not be accepted into the alliance, nevertheless ah, president zelenskyi said that we need to show some achievements of advancement at the front until this date so that we can , i don’t know, look good in vilnius, we understand this very well, on the other hand, this is a little inconsistent with what valery zaluzhnyi said in this regard an interview with a sensational person, what when he said that he was annoyed by all the stories about the fact that we need to demonstrate something quickly , do you understand that there must be some balance here, what we need to demonstrate, these achievements , maybe we have already achieved something in fact any advancements in june, we have records for the month in terms of the number

of destroyed russian equipment . and we have records, and the record number of russian barrel artillery destroyed . one of the highest indicators of a destroyed, if i am not mistaken, the second indicator for the entire period of the full-scale invasion of ukraine, and the number of destroyed vehicles, e-e , the first place was march of the 22nd year, and this logically, because russian logistics were massively destroyed at that time , everything worked precisely on logistics columns and they were successfully destroyed in order to slow down the advance of the occupiers in june. of the month, when mainly units of limited functionality were active, because our

main forces were not yet more closely involved, and the units of limited functionality involved in the voice of support and function were also an opening of the position of the russian artillery , the hiding of other e-e their facilities , warehouses with ammunition, command posts , control posts, etc. time we hear from officials and the reports regarding the liberation of the territory are no longer tens of square kilometers but hundreds of square kilometers, but it is important where it happens, it happens in the security zone, which was very difficult to pass. and we we are approaching the main line of defense of the second line of defense of the russian occupiers, so it does not even exclude the fact that after it will be