[000:00:00;00] is it so tragic, for example, for health? well, i won't be just signs. i should probably give numbers. a fatal dose of radiation in the event that a person receives them very quickly . let's say it's 1,000 mm. and evacuation in our country takes place at levels of 5 mm. then the year must be divided into 365 days. it will be that 1/100 millisievert per day is already going . evacuation is 100,000 times lower than fatal services. this means that even after an accident , are people in this territory 2-3 days

a week? what dose it would be uh, it's harmful to your health, it's impossible, i have to interrupt you, i'm sorry 100 times, i understand that you're in japan , it's already late, you're still with us, it's very useful for me, she even ordered the device let 's go over it a little more let's go mark says more because it is very interesting and i sincerely say thank you because you really brought a little sobriety because as you understand panic is our everything and my colleagues always love panic oh we will all die immediately and finally mr. zheleznyak told us the truth and i also thank the green father really he worked a lot in the chernobyl zone thank you marsh zaliznyak, a scientist of the institute of environmental radioactivity of focus university and the former chernobyl liquidator was with us now from advertising then poland so in this sequence advertising

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monday to friday at 20:00 repeat at 12:10 and again good health with you mykola september and there are still 30 minutes 25 minutes left we will start our meeting with poland, where another spy who played hockey was found , we will talk about all this with yakub koryba, a polish political scientist. in russian, this is what our fate means . hello, thank you. thank you, resurrection is our time for our conversation . i am a peon in poland. in their time, they were polish in the early 90s, when they were part of the independence of ukraine, they worked a lot in ukraine, and i remember them since then, then

they went up the career ladder to the top , some of them worked in anti-espionage organizations in poland, and then they told me that there are a huge number of russian spies in poland just everywhere. to what extent is this true? because i laughed a little, i was worried a little , but i laughed a little. the hockey players of the second polish league are already russian spies in hockey. well, if you extrapolate, then this is some cleaners, russian spies, i don't know, some salesmen, russian spies , that is, they must . well, that's why you catch them everywhere . how serious is it?

i'm sorry that i'm going to speak russian. we all understand that this is a relic of the past . i think that in a year i'll be able to speak a real, normal ukrainian language, but i haven't made any progress yet. you the question here is all about, well, first of all, in poland compared to other countries, even the countries of our region, the czech republic, slovakia, especially hungary , there are not so many russian spies . they bought capital because the atmosphere in the country is unfavorable for them, if some russian appears somewhere, it is very

difficult for him to dissolve, especially if he is putin's russian, they will still know about it in three hours, and there are many spies in relation to the optimal state in relation to what we all wanted to see, and the optimal state is zero people in the country, and well , the reds who work for russia and sympathize with russia, that is whether in general we now, thanks to you, thanks to ukraine , have reached the optimal state of relations with russia, and in on the scale of all of europe, russian capital does not go to us, er, russian money does not come to us, russian companies are closed, a-a , russian mass media, there is no russian influence, but it is stopped , and there is more to do in the country, a-a, but with

on the other hand, we see that the level of espionage that we are observing today is more likely to cause laughter than fear, as you know, poland is the largest hockey country in the world, where are the clubs in poland , this is a power, even stronger than in canada, what kind canada compared to poland, poland is uh-uh of course of course, and if they pay such people to spy for russia, but from my point of view, this is not quite a well-spent money. i think that in this case is more important symbolism is more important than specifics because this person well, he could take a picture of the gate who or another part of the polish army yes or there to tell about their conversations in the locker room i don't think so here we show

this a spy in red here he is in red a spy here he is eti how would judges and arbitrators how would they ask to calm down but here he is, here is his face , here is a russian. very important. when in the 1990s i asked the fields, i looked for everything polish from journalists , and from polish politicians, this is the relationship. is there a difference between ukrainians and russians for poles? they told me the same thing, for example. you are so soviet. someone cares more about the ukrainian, someone cares less. it was understandable. the operation caused all this trouble. between us living countries

now, how do you go? here you speak poles, no, no. they don't actually let russians in, or they're afraid of russian, poles don't want to go there like now, what kind of attitude is beautiful in polish society, what do sociologists say about the attitude of poles, what do they say about the pole's attitude, srednee statisticheskogo esli takoy estil srednee statisticheskomu russkom esli takoe esti, both in the people and in elite relations to russian realists, we understand that russia is tsarskaya sovetskaya putinskaya, volnitskaya khodorkovskaya, or any other is a threat from our point of view . as long as russia exists, any of its influence on of our people, any of its influence on our territories is a threat, it is clearly within the limits of 75 85% of our people consider russia a threat, good beauty

, one and a half and two percent are positive there, this is a realistic attitude to a country that has always threatened us in its history, russia for all my history, i will not do anything good for more. and at the same time, we will do a lot of bad things, and today we understand that the time has come. quickly, ukraine will be able to defeat russia, uh, we can only help, and at the same time, we are preparing to solve this problem once and for all. big polish mistakes, this question will boomerang at us if russia is not militarily and strategically

neutralized today, in 10-15-20 years we will have to do it with big blood, big money and big efforts , which ends up condemning realism in regarding russia, you in ukraine have been convinced and are convinced every day of beauty in me, in me, there is more, there is more, i am working . excuse me, thank you, yes, i am a bunch. korea, a polish political scientist was with us. i apologize for interrupting. but we have such discipline. now there will be advertising, and then we will talk about decommunization. we haven't talked about decommunization for a long time. so, advertising for three

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eyes and we will ask him about the various circumstances of his life and his life is connected with our life. thank you, mr. vadim, for finding time for us on sunday. according to your calculations, how many non-decommunized objects are there in kyiv today, the capital of ukraine, if streets , they are left to be renamed . only a few dozen . and here are the monuments, memorial boards, decorated elements, etc. i don't know the board, he lives here. well, for example, i'm saying he's so prominent there, i'm not a communist figure, not that, that, can he replace the card with another board, one

of the main executioners of the ukrainian people lived here, you understand, because no, i don't think so i should have written that i'm not saying that i'm right , i'm just asking, you're an expert, i'm a journalist here, so you think it's just a matter of removing the board and forgetting about it hello hello hello i didn't hear that we have a problem with communication , that's right, i understand now, yes, because what is there? well, now we will try to find mr. vadim to recover, but it is such a difficult question. now i will ask a question, for example, what to do with the cabinet of ministers. well, if it is bad, it is bad to have before our eyes, as it were, examples of the soviet communist, there are no questions. but then, if you are consistent, you know the cabinet.

of the ministers of ukraine was built in those times. the administration of the president of ukraine was built in those times. it is all communist , it is totalitarian architecture, as it once was, 157 years ago . he lived in a simple house and was one of the few. in the 1960s, he was a myth. his neighbors walked around london with him and he told me about totalitarian art, about italian fascism, about german nazism, what it looked like, and from that time i just thought about what to do with it, because that's all you know, go to mila hall. look, if no one was there, then i think that there wasn't much. it's just a masterpiece of fascist art , it's so wow, so gray, so huge, so majestic , so very similar to the cabinet of ministers of ukraine. well, there's something to think about

, you can think for a long time. i'm just asking to our colleagues, did we renew the alleged vadim poznyakov, mr. vadim let me start here, you understand. simply, if we go , well, if we take the longest road, then the question arises , eh, totalitarian is not art, we should also ban it, and then totalitarian well architecture and where will the president of ukraine work, where will the cabinet of ministers of ukraine work, it is all built in such a stalinist style, and what to do with it. well, this verkhovna rada is also communist, obviously. well, somehow it is like that , you know. not majestic, not fifteen-story, but all the same, that is, it is necessary. well, somehow, we must either stop

here or not stop, recycle everything, and there is a place for humor. we can move from kyiv to odesa. street, generator on the street, i would also add a barrier on the street, and because, well, barriers also exist, you can name it. that is, where it is, how it is, in your understanding, it ends somewhere. is it like when it was sung in the song , there is a beginning in the revolution, there is no end to the revolution , there is no end to the beginning of decommunization and we will eradicate well, until the end, your version , please. well, i will say that the process of urbanization and humanization will end when we already start to put up more of our monuments, our plaques, to approve our street names, because to destroy is simply to demolish like a hammer to destroy a monument to lenin petrovsky there to pushkin and so on, it is, well, it simply depends on itself some kind

of emptiness that will not change in the heads , it has not been instilled in the heads of the people of that lenin or that same pushkin, we have to take care of it people have it in their heads, that is, the markers must be sorted out but we must then put our own, not necessarily there . it is not necessary and not very important that the monuments be artistic, artistic valuable do not put some incomprehensible kitch to people they did not say that you demolished shchors, yes, he is a communist, but this is high-quality architecture. and i put a conditional loop there, but petliura is made there with some expressions, a petenka, some kind of very, very crooked and so that all the petlyuras do not laugh at this. therefore, we have to make a really high-quality product, and this one we have a product, we have to be, we have to make a lot of it, because over time, well, even now, for 8 years, we have hardly established any of our points

, and we don’t have to or don’t have to do like the soviets who stamped there, relatively speaking, a few thousands of people, and we should not stamp 2,000 banders, 2,000 petliuras, but local fighters for the freedom of ukraine, local artists, poets, writers, artists , we should obviously honor them. because we have plaques with various russian soviet writers, military artists. like ivan franko's lesya ukrainka, i am taras shevchenko, and you, among others, were used by the communists for their own benefit, but the main array of our figures is practically not honored don't look at mr. vadim, i would understand that she is on thin ice, i am stepping on it right now and i understand for sure that we will fly to me, but i don't have any social networks, so we are no

easier. for example, in the general global world context, a genius, and in the ukrainian context, a ukrainophobe, so how can you be here? i mean, as you guessed bulgakov, i am not convinced that he was such a ukrainophobe, but the elements were , but it was obvious for many, for the majority western experts that this brilliant writer i always give this example well, maybe he is on me on me i was impressed once by the current king of britain, he was then in principle he was late, we had a meeting precisely because he saw that there is bulgakov's house here and not i could not come and the infection was an hour late

. well, i forgave him all the more. musician, but tchaikovsky is outstanding and worked in ukraine and probably will be. i think i was even somewhere in the house where he lived when he came to ukraine and bulgakov was also here, that is, what to do with such people who are geniuses in the world context and i think , sorry sir we know that we will not look very good if, for example, we say: chekhov is forbidden in our country, and then we will come to london or warsaw and watch chekhov's three sisters, that is, the whole world will. i was in the soviet union, what do you say about these thoughts? this is not a creation, i am not affirming, i am just thinking, there is such an option, there is such an option , the easiest

option is to ban everything. creativity, i.e. the question of national toponymy , the question of national markers, after all, concerns the nassamy there, not the english or the americans or the poles or whose, but still, this is the territory of ukraine, we must name it in honor of our figures, various institutions , institutions and monuments should be in honor of our figures . i've even been there a couple of times, and i'm just thinking. well, why should it be demolished or what should be done about it? some of these balls lived somewhere. by the way , as you know, chekhov carried ukrainian literature

in the ukrainian language, which was prohibited in the tsarist tsarist regime. lviv to kyiv is illegal so he was a literary smuggler, what to do with such things, well, not only bulgakov is in bulgakov's house , just look at the bulgakov museum, he is now uh, well , he will work, he will work on the taxes of the people of kyiv. that is, this is the kyiv municipal museum, so dismantle the plaque monument to bulgakov, it is mine personal position, it is unchangeable, let's say so, it cannot be changed, but if we want to function excessively in my opinion, let them try to function with capitalism, we have capitalism, if they survive, then someone needs it but with clear annotations, who that's bulgakov, and when you told about the type of his work, they should tell that he had such and such ukrainophobic notes , but not for the taxes of the people of kyiv, that is, if the private museum , if they survive, if they are submitted with the correct annotations, well, let them

work, but for the taxes of the people of kyiv - it's a doubt not a pleasure okay so i just understand er wagner's granddaughter loved hitler hitler loved wagner's granddaughter and in general, the jews did not listen to wagner's music and there had to be a leader of the vienna jewish orchestra who told me i don't care regardless that i am jewish and i know about the holocaust. i think wagner is a good composer and i started to perform it absolutely if in contrast to the generally jewish and theses that we don't like anywhere, well, there are at least some reasons, because indeed onuka wagner really loved the strong hitler, but there is nothing here

you won't do it thank you vadim poznyakov, co-founder of the decommunization project, we had a more philosophical conversation like this . yes or maybe so, i am waiting for one or other people to convince me who are against which about which contra and then i will speak more convincingly maybe for many and now iryna koval will speak convincingly with news from espresso tv thank you mr. mykola have a nice evening how i always want and i will literally tell you in a moment about the most important events at this time, the 18th in ukraine, for your attention , a news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna kovaliy, although i want to start the release with a message from the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, zaporizhzhia, donetsk and