[000:00:00;00] about the president of the duke who is visiting the united states next month, well, that is, actually the current big one, and about china, about china, well, china was and remains a serious partner of israel and definitely this is done because mr. grant is not invited to the united states well, i did not see any in this additional exclamations that in fact the israelis are closely following the new role that china has taken on china in the system of diplomatic relations in the middle east, you know its recent promotion of laser medical relations between iran and saudi arabia, that is, there is nothing strange here if i am not invited to washington, i received beijing

decided the pnev and tell me, in recent times , we can talk about the increase of concern of the israeli e -e. for the sake of intensification of military cooperation of the russian federation because we see that this military cooperation is deepening every day and we do not know what else iran can ask from russia in exchange for its drone, we do know it is certain that iran received tens of tons of enriched uranium from russia, which is very confusing, of course, to israel . iran received from russia the first 20 su-35s. it seems to be the right name . they are modern fighters, and within the framework of the contract , 50 machines are given, and definitely. this worries israel a lot. to be honest, it was an indicator of the fact that israel

will be much more active in helping us. that is why it will actually stop flirting with moscow. unfortunately, this did not happen. and we talk about it all the time. a piece from an iranian martyr who brought it from kyiv and said that guys, if we do not cooperate more actively, you may receive the same thing in the near future. thank you , mr. yevhen yevhen korniychuk, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in israel was in touch with us we will be back literally in a few minutes stay with us there are discounts on proctose neo 10% pharmacies traveller for you and

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cooperation - this is now a german politician, a member of the european parliament, a former member of the german bundestag, viola von cramon, tabel, welcome, panologist, greetings, good evening, glad to see, so let's talk about the vilnius nato itself. what do you think ukraine can really expect from this international meeting, we signal that there is really a lot countries actually express their support for ukraine as a future member of the alliance, the question remains when and under what conditions i know that the ukrainian parliament is actually preparing itself step by step to somehow come to nato under a simplified procedure

, and let me remember that now we have already come quite far, that we have already managed to convince a lot of countries on this question, and in fact there really is such a geopolitical legality that is recognized by a lot of countries uhu and there will be this summit itself, tom, who will officially give ukraine an invitation to join as a status there where the head of the candidate for nato membership and i really hope that this will happen. although there are certain fears and doubts , of course we understand that there is a certain

there were a lot of positive signals from the scene, a lot of positive signals from, for example, from berlin, and i think that we have a chancellor who was quite skeptical about this, before he rejected such an idea, the idea of ​​joining ukraine , now he has slowly sided with those who really approve of this decision and also encourages other such colleagues to follow it , for example, we also hope that there will be a positive signal from turkey, and so before we become a large-scale member, we need to make sure that we have a reliable

a reliable group of guarantees and that after i will say that in general the general mood is that ukraine should be included in the family of the north atlantic alliance thanks to support military support economic support but we see in fact a high probability, many say that ukraine can be accepted into nato after the end of the war, not only western leaders are talking about it, president zelenskyi also said that he does not imagine that ukraine can join nato during the war, but the question arises. what should be done to prevent the war ended, because when you and i say that ukraine can join nato only after the war, we thus give such a pass to moscow to the president of russia, vladimir putin, we tell him, vladimir, if you end the war , ukraine will join nato and if you do not end the war, it will not join the battle

naida absolutely, and i think that this is really a very important moment. we need to provide ukraine with all the necessary military equipment in order for ukraine to really achieve military success on the battlefield, because in ukraine we must approach the stage when, after all, will achieve its military goals and so when we talk about leopards about other heavy weapons and now we are already talking about air defense systems and other things in that case yes you are absolutely right we need to tell putin now that now he has a chance a chance to stop this invasion but when we say about, for example, specific time frames. when ukraine will become a member of nato, that

is, again, it is difficult to make any predictions, to name specific dates. of the mistakes of our former chancellor mrs. merkel, not to close the door to nato for ukraine again, i think that a lot of people made the right conclusions and i will also say that we need to act quickly and decisively, we need to do everything so that ukraine can really liberate all its occupied territories from russian occupiers and it must be done right now and before and before the end of this year and after, as i have already said, then when will the war end, only after ukraine has really given and won back all its sovereign territory, i wanted to ask you about how to correct these mistakes of 2008 and whether it is possible to correct them at all. i

recently read such an analysis by our well-known ep expert alyona hetmanchuk , and she, after her trip to a meeting with various western experts and representatives of nato including they said that she faced a situation that is not well understood in ukraine, that the alliance considered 2008 to be such a polite year for ukraine, while in ukraine it was perceived as delayed, and roughly the same way it was perceived in russia as well it was postponed and it turned out that the alliance promised membership to ukraine but did nothing to guarantee security, how to change this situation, talk about interpretation, then i would also interpret the bucharest summit as there was no

such understanding as to why ukraine needs an action plan regarding nato membership, and especially when there were certain messages to putin, if you put your hand on ukraine, then accordingly we all became the manager of ukraine, we understand what mistakes were made, we know that if in 2008 there was a different decision by georgia and ukraine and other countries did not tolerate what they had to endure if the answer then was yes, then germany and france then tried to make sure that ukraine and georgia did not have a future side of the green light for these countries to join the alliance. but if we

are talking about ukraine, then there was no such full commitment of promises regarding the fact that, for example, yushchenko's government received such a positive message, that is, unfortunately, such decisions were made in 2008 and unfortunately - i call it a mistake and everything could have been completely different if in at that time the alliance decided differently and took a different path but again , i think that now the vast majority of countries everyone understands that i am now familiar with how we need to think how we need to formulate a completely different proposal. we are talking about speeding up ukraine's accession to nato and this

would be the best security guarantee for ukraine, and some combine this situation with israel and demand long-term long-term guarantees from us and also speed up our military production we also understand that it is about development and documentation and of course if we say a-a we want to see ukraine as a sent member if you are talking about a change in the position of the federal government what do you primarily associate this change with the war itself and changes in public opinion with pressure in the coalition, what primarily causes such a radicalization of the position of the federal chancellor is a certain combination of all

the factors that you have listed. of course , the position of the minister of defense, who clearly who shares what is now urgent, what is important and natural. it is important that countries such as poland or the balkans should listen to them more. romania also speaks out for ukraine to join nato, and therefore i think that the secret to central and eastern european countries should be listen more. yes, if we are talking about germany. yes, we understand when the change in this position took place. we are also talking about the former minister of defense when i had the opportunity to visit

kyiv. we are moving, we saw the truly enormous destruction that ukraine suffered not only in the military sense, but also the destruction of civil infrastructure, ecocide, the damage that was done to the environment. that is, this is a colossal and large-scale destruction of the entire country , and for us this is a very alarming signal for everyone, in particular, for the chancellor of our state i think that all these factors influenced the change in the position of our chancellor. yes, i am not a spokesman. and it is difficult for me to somehow interpret his position. but i think that his statement, his position, his position is really changed after what ukraine experienced after assessing what was happening under our

noses for the last 15 months , when president putin arranges his actions, nightingale and economic, and when he provokes migrant crises, he always seems to me to be thinking about the destabilization of europe about the strengthening of the position of those forces who, let's say, will understand and hear it better, this is what happened at the end of june in the chigyryn district of the zones, where the representative of the alternative for germany for germany robert zesselma became the head of the local administration to what extent can one be afraid of these trends of the growth of right-wing forces and in your country the authority of ultra-right forces in your country and in other european countries, it is clear that

the zonenberg district is a small district , a small number of voters live there. but if this is a trend, how should popular parties respond to this trend in the political environment what should be done in order not to give the possibility of an alternative for germany to at least form local authorities, perhaps by asking for it, so we are talking about a small area, which is approximately 28,000 and that is, we understand that the representative of the legal forces won with a slight advantage and it looks like it is such a small group of people and despite this, as you said, we really understand that this is an alarming signal, it carries a certain

danger. such a party in such a prominent position and even in spite of the fact that this is a small and small region, but we can already see that there is also a similar trend in neighboring regions. and i want to say that if we talk about the atmosphere, the moods there there is a general pressure that actually comes from the far-right and it is felt, and we are not only talking about a specific party , but we are talking about those who actually want to undermine our basic values ​​of democracy and environmentalism and the like, and if we say that if this is not the last time, there will be such precedents

indeed, the whole society will change and it will not change for the better, there is a lot of pressure from this party precisely in order to reduce support for ukraine, they are guided by very heavy pro-russian influences and i think that the people who support these parties are really scared, they are just using rhetoric, they are carrying propaganda that is really word for word what we hear from the kremlin, and that is why when we talk about local elections, very often the topics discussed are not national issues in fact, there were questions about ukraine, about migrants, questions

about changing heating prices, inflation, and the like, that is, in fact, the local leader cannot solve these questions, and that is why i want to say that they do not offer any solutions, they just spread fear. indeed, their rhetoric there is significantly dominated by the rhetoric of the kremlin, and they push society to be so intolerant, to be so aggressive, and they have such an influence, which of course is negative, and they literally attack people, they scare them, they put political pressure on their opponents from other political parties , they behave quite aggressively and that is why we need to stick together, work together , explain why we take certain steps, we

have to explain why we help ukraine why should we protect ukrainian refugees? why should we be independent of russian energy resources? that is, all these points should give an understanding of why it is not possible to restore supplies through the nord stream and the like. that is, we understand all these topics that we urgently need to explain. why such actions will not bring peace. but they will continue this ongoing war and will continue to instill instability in europe and ukraine . to be honest, the results of these elections worried me from the aspect that ms. it will seem unexpected to you from the point of view of the de-occupation of ukraine and this need to work with the population, which many here underestimate

, all such trends and the victory of the alternative for germany and the success of the left party and the previous successes of the party of democratic socialism led by mr. gregor gitz, all this is happening in the eastern lands of germany who were essentially in such an occupation zone of the soviet union before the reunification of germany , you were a deputy from north rhine-westphalia, this is a less wealthy land in western western germany where people absolutely otherwise we lived in the post-war years, and here it turns out that this political difference is felt even three decades after the reunification of germany, how easy it is to overcome. these are the consequences of the occupation regime. and here, from the german experience, it is necessary

to take into account ukraine for the future. ukraine is not doing anything wrong we are saying that these are our internal issues that we have to resolve, i don't think that ukraine can help us in this regard. and we know that we are also explaining this situation that is happening here in our country to politicians, ambassadors, representatives of civil society, we understand that there is nothing to criticize here, we need to explain why there is no peace now, why russia attacked ukraine and continues its aggression, we must continue to explain that putin is guided only by his radical sentiments , he wants to erase ukraine from the world map and

therefore in order to protect all of europe, we must protect the country of ukraine as a cultural and historical unit, and many people really do not understand the people of east germany. they do not understand what it is to fight for unfortunately, they do not understand this, and if we speak in the context of those wars, comparing them with the second world war , when germany was the aggressor, when we brought the brutal evil and cruelty of fascism to the soviet union and the eastern flag of europe, and which such russian slurs about ukraine have already said before that ukraine is a fascist, that ukraine does not carry fascism, corruption, and so on, all these prices and arguments, unfortunately, they are diametrically

opposed and often appeal to the hearts of those who live in the eastern part of germany, but we emphasize that ukraine is not a corrupt state, they are not nazis, no. we have our own problems within ourselves in our parliament. indeed , there are still nazis. there are still nazis in the german parliament and the like, so there is always a need to explain why the soviet union is not russia, why is ukraine suffering the most right now, how much did ukraine suffer during the nazi regime that we were under, such damage was done and so it is very important to talk about all these points, and in particular, during

history lessons, which can be different may differ in western and eastern germany, and that is why it is such a very big problem for us, and we could not think about it earlier. continuing the topic of the vilna sami tonata, i wanted to ask you about the crisis of understanding that exists now among the is a country of the alliance and which also really needs a solution. it seems to me that they were waiting for sweden to join the alliance in vilnius. we understand almost certainly that this will not happen. that the parliaments of turkey and hungary will not vote for it, and the question arises. how did this happen? that unions were created precisely on values, on democratic values, first of all, this is the european union, but nato was also based on such solidarities, they are now forced