[000:00:00;00] which can be different, and it can be different in west and east germany , and that's why it's really such a big problem for us, and we couldn't think of it before, continuing the theme of the vilna sami tone. but i wanted to ask you about that crisis of understanding which currently exists among the countries of the alliance and which really also needs a solution . it seems to me that they were waiting for sweden to join the alliance in vilnius. we almost certainly understand that this will not happen. that the parliaments of turkey and hungary will not vote for it and the question arises how did it happen that the unions created precisely on values, on democratic values, first of all, this is the european union, but nato was also based on such solidarity

, they are now forced to take into account the experience of governments that are based absolutely on other value perspectives that the president of the republic and pardogan , prime minister viktor orban, they dictate their will in this collective event , both successfully and at the same time they absolutely do not adhere to the very values ​​on which these unions of western countries are based, first of all, especially when it comes to orbán, who often a-a really inserts a stick in the wheel behaves quite brutally without ceremony and in fact during the adoption of each subsequent package of sanctions that were talked about and voted for. at the european council in brussels, you saw efforts by hungary to block any

aid to ukraine or to block sanctions that were considered necessary, it was also about raw materials from russia about energy carriers and the like, unfortunately this is the reality, it is unacceptable and membership in nato, i want to say that it is of course obvious that hungary works like a trojan horse, and on the side of the kremlin, and the european union, and we need to stop and stop so that this continues to happen and now, what do you think, they said with the support of the president of dogan, we really hoped that when the elections were held in turkey, that it would be possible for the situation

to be different, attention was actually focused on during his election campaign , we hoped that we would somehow be able to come to an agreement with the united states, where he also appealed to them for f16 fighter jets. such high technologies, and when we talk about orbán, i think that there are really completely different agreements compared to president

erdogan , he is especially trying. direction, and therefore i am sure that such a wish of his will be voted collectively in the parliament, therefore it is really difficult to talk about what is, what is now so urgent and something that cannot be resolved, but considering according to orbán's words and statements. yes, they talk a lot about frozen assets, but if sweden actually presided over the european union and until yesterday, orbán really put a lot of pressure on the swedish president regarding the finances that are frozen in their country, but it shouldn't be some kind of

such a behind-the-scenes agreement, everything must be clearly worked out in accordance with the mechanisms , tell me in principle if we are talking now about the relations between the united states and the european union, to what extent can it be considered that the unity that will be difficult has already been achieved uh, question it in the near future, at least until the presidential elections in the united states. i mean, this raised the question, let's say after the visit of the president of france, monal macron, to the people's republic of china, after his words about the strategic autonomy of europe. and you know what the federal the chancellor also had contacts with the leadership of the people's republic of china, that is, it is obvious that europe wants to maintain contacts with china at a time when in the united states there is a cool attitude towards

the leadership, china is entering the game. i think as always, there are several approaches to relations with china. everyone understands that actually when you talk about trade with china, about business, about the market, there are certain gaps and the situation is not healthy as such, especially after what russia started resorting to in the last month, there were not only a lot of conversations, but there were a lot of initiatives from the european union from ursulev-ponderlein , as well as from external e-e services and services, our e-e government really began to develop a different strategy for relations with the european union, in particular, it is not about what to support

trump is talking about the fact that the dependence on chinese business from the chinese market was not so high, and of course we are also saying that a lot of bets were made on services for the introduction of innovation in the chemical industry and others. yes, the sector and the market, and that is why there are really a lot of such sectors where there are a lot of people in leadership , they are dependent on china, and of course when we talk about the long-term perspective , now we need to make sure that our knowledge and expertise are our intellectual

property that all this is protected and that we do not open the door to anything and to any university institution from china that we still have a comparative advantage in specific sectors in know-how in intellectual property we see how vigilant china is now i when watching the war is between ukraine and russia and therefore i think that it was very important to really give this signal that we are united that we are in solidarity that we will support ukraine in terms of defense and when we are talking about very tough sanctions that we we will remain steadfast, but we see what china's rhetoric is, in particular when it comes to taiwan, about the ambitions to conquer taiwan

by military means , that is, of course. some trade opportunities are also very dangerous and it shows that china is not ready to risk a-a to risk its a-a security daring a military invasion of taiwan and therefore such conclusions can now be made like that is connected with everything and that is why it is very important to maintain unity as long as the president falls is the president of the usa this unity between the united states and the european union in relation to ukraine and russia it is

unshakable but when we talk about china yes the senate congress they are now also now we are also determined to be independent, and we europeans now want to separate as much as possible from china , to be more independent, to invest in our scientific institutions, and we want to reduce our cooperation with chinese institutions compared to them it was in the past and but we also see that china understands and sometimes quite successfully er they seem to use media platforms and other er

potentially influential voices in eastern europe we have also reduced our cooperation in cultural aspects in certain countries it is more and more difficult for the european union to speak critically and critically against china, while many newspapers still continue to cover events in such a light that benefits china because they receive certain funding from this countries, they use specific tools, and we see that already in the media space it is also very influential, and therefore it is worth conducting an analysis to understand what is the current influence of china, how it affects at different levels on the cultural, economic, but also on the military, in a certain sense, your party

union 90 greens, she has always advocated for germany's refusal to give power to the energy sector, it can be said that they have realized this programmatic goal during their many years in the bundestag, and here is an interesting moment, we are now looking at all this with conflicting emotions on the one hand, it is not clear how to get out of this situation of energy dependence on oil and gas, and it is not only about russia , but about other authoritarian regimes on which europe now depends in one way or another when it comes to the supply of energy, and on the other hand, we are here in ukraine we are looking at the situation around the zaporizhzhia npp with dismay and perhaps if nuclear power was not so developed there would be no possibility of blackmailing the world even by seizing nuclear power plants and not

to mention nuclear wars, well absolute amen because to admit that it is normal for ukraine and for other countries such as france and others , even our a-a party also denies that of course we understand what climate changes are and we understand what the internal climate is in relation to energy production, so our party a- and the greens chose an alternative path, we wanted to demonstrate that how it is possible to produce and generate, generate from the sun , generate from the wind and feed from water, and we showed that thanks to all this energy, you can

become independent from fossil fuels why do we actually have to switch from the russian energy carrier to the qatari one to the kazakh one to the azerbaijani one and to other countries to authoritarian regimes, actually you see that we are doing this, you don't see other problems, in particular, the problems of human rights, yes we need to invest in renewable energy sources, we have reduce our overall energy use and we need to demonstrate that we are giving the right financial initiatives to really achieve this energy independence and that is why we must now invest in solar e-e solar energy into solar panels and the like and of course the path we chose is the path of independence of energy dependence

it is very difficult but an example with the situation of the zaporizhzhia npp so it was such a certain role model for europe with but now we see that it is now in in the risk zone, in fact, from the beginning of the full scale in ugu, this is a huge danger, a huge risk both for ukraine and for the entire continent, and therefore, knowing about this, and you understand that the growth of the atom is that it is the main supplier of uranium raw materials for nuclear power plants and even i think that the usa also depends on russian uranium by about

30%. this is a huge colossal problem. i actually think that the majority of europeans, the majority of european nuclear power plants, they want to completely abandon raw materials of russian origin, but it is very difficult . russia actually has a very large spectrum of influence on our energy market, that is, there are many pros and cons, but we have to understand that the nuclear power plant, especially in ugu, especially in the context of war, is a huge risk of catastrophe on a global scale and that we already seen only reinforces my words and will insert all this even more questions to what can happen in the event of an explosion of one of the reactors i hope that this will not happen but we can never be sure considering

how many munitions are around this around this nuclear power plant what a danger it creates when did russia take control of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant? that is why we need to pray. you mentioned the seedlings of rosatom, a direct participant in russian aggression. its specialists work at the zaporizhzhia npp. occupation functions and with this this corporation is not part of the sanctions list of the european union, the president of ukraine recently called for rosatom to be included in this list, there were such attempts, they were not successful, do you at all hope that rosatom will someday come under the influence of

european union sanctions from representatives of various governments of the european union and of course, there are certain countries that now also support the active call, but there are countries that are against it , in particular hungary, as well as france, there are still other countries that are against it, and certainly not germany. but there are countries that do not rely on the supply of uranium from russian uranium, and as i have already said, the usa really depends on a fairly large scale from russian uranium, so it is really necessary to include the atom in the sanctions list, this issue has already been raised repeatedly during discussions, and i really hope that in the near future the majority will vote for it if we talk about how the mood in the european

parliament is changing, do you see among your colleagues some fatigue with the ukrainian issue or , on the contrary, is there a willingness to fight for restoration of international law and principles to the end to say that there is no problem as such in the european parliament , you have a lot of friends of yours, those who support you, who are guided by the understanding that it is necessary to help ukraine to the end, and such and such a desire actually continues from the beginning of a full- scale invasion and until today, if we are talking about the european parliament itself, then the aid and support for ukraine flows from there , but there are tendencies for it

to be even bigger and deeper, and i really, all of us we feel that this is not ukraine's war, but our common war, and we will fight with you until the end, so i cannot say that there are any signs of that . at the beginning of the invasion, it is really very important to get such relations, in particular with ukrainian deputies, which is important, with other politicians, as well as representatives of civil society, mayors

, mayors of cities, and ukrainians are really intellectuals intellectuals, diplomats who think, are looking for solutions and who are really looking for ways to strengthen relations, discuss urgent issues, uh, they don’t demand, ukrainians, on the contrary , convince us, we find this common denominator of proper negotiations, that’s why we really want to include in our resolutions as much as possible in support of ukraine, and we really we are opening our doors, we are opening dialogues to victory regarding the accession of ukraine to the eu and nato , and we are also considering what we can do in the near future in order to to strengthen and speed up the process of ukraine's accession to both the european union and nato, so i think that the european parliament is one of the most important agents that supports ukraine at the political level, and we

supported ukraine even before bucha and others were released, and we also visited ukraine despite at our personal risk, we tried to show that you really are with you, with our government, with your people, with yours, with your president, and therefore, fortunately, there is no such thing. if we talk about european integration, do you believe that ukraine will be able to start negotiations on accession to the european union already this year, or is this too optimistic? i have already seen a lot of progress on the part of ukraine , as well as political will, both on the part of the ukrainians and on the part of the european commission, and that is why i think that ukraine, the members

of the european union , have similar sentiments. hungary, of course, is an exception to the union. hungary is acting. it is roughly predicted when it comes to ukraine. they are trying to satisfy their internal interests and play in a way that is beneficial to them, so they talk about some kind of oppression of the national minorities in western ukraine and the like, and i think that when i had the opportunity to visit the carpathians, the ukrainian carpathians, i saw representatives of the hungarian minority, but i saw that they have all the necessary rights, that is, no one suppresses their rights, that is what the hungarian leadership is talking about this is something on the borderline of fiction. that is, these are the kind of meratives , again, which body is used to use for the purpose of blackmail, to manipulate nato membership in this situation, he wants

to receive funding, and he wants to receive certain a-a financial guarantees for and that's why he acts in this way he wants to tie our hands but i think he won't succeed because our chancellor a together with the members of the parliament they are looking for certain solutions to condemn such behavior because such behavior is unacceptable therefore now indeed, together at the level of the european union, we demonstrate that we are friends and

ukraine. thank you. of ukraine and we will see what the ukrainian deputies in the european parliament are, thank you mrs. violifon kramon talbedel, a german politician, a member of the european parliament, for this conversation about what is happening with the european integration of ukraine, what can be expected from vilnius itself, the north atlantic union, let me remind you that practically you and i will have to experience it's not easy now, it's a week, there are 10 days before this vilna festival itself, when in fact all attention will be focused on what will be the decisions of the member countries of the northern and ancient of the union, how will they solve these problems related to the european integration of ukraine and here really with the euro -atlantic integration first of all of course and here it is really important how will the position of the most important such countries of the north atlantic union

, the united states, france, germany, great britain, we know that the united states now they are taking a rather cautious position, but the favorable position of the european countries , primarily france, germany, which ms. violofon kramon spoke about in our conversation, she is also very important from the point of view of perspective, from the point of view of changing even american views on how , at what pace, under what conditions should the accession of ukraine to the north atlantic union take place, and here every politician who is sincerely interested in helping ukraine not just in its opera, russian aggression in its development as a euro-atlantic state, as a european state, as a democratic state, each such politician is a significant participant in our struggle for a normal future for the future in

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