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analytics about objectively and meaningfully there is no political season exclusive interviews reports from the hottest points of the front freedom life frankly and impartially draw conclusions ourselves we will continue the morning information block that's exactly how we will be talk in particular in this part of our broadcast about such issues , of course the focus of attention is the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, this is connected with the fact that the russian federation and the troops are doing everything necessary to prepare a probable terrorist attack on the power station. certain signals that we have. in this context, in order not to cause

unnecessary panic, it is not necessary for anyone, but we are definitely obliged to obey the signals of our competent services and the government. and where does the date july 5 appear? the boundary is called decisive in the context of the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but when it does not happen, and whether it will happen at all, we must understand what the accident at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant could really turn out to be, taking into account the state in which the plant is right now, all reactors are in cold reserve mode , cold shutdown, this is not a hot shutdown, and this is definitely not the active functioning of reactors with the corresponding reactions inside. together with the corresponding competent expert and we are pleased to welcome to the studio mykola shteinberg, ex-chief engineer of the chornobyl npp, ex-chairman of the state committee on

nuclear safety and former minister of energy and energy of ukraine under pavlov p. mykola , we welcome you glory to ukraine good morning good morning one of such features, which are now being talked about in the context of the activities of the russian troops at the gas station, is that they replaced the cooler and, they say, in the event that this particular part of the a-a nuclear power plant fails, according to the cooling reactors or cooling of the entire zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and becomes impossible or insufficient. please decipher what is the most dangerous, what is the greatest danger zaporizhzhia npp is now in if an accident occurs there, given its current state , i am asking for a history from the fourth of march

last year to the september month when there were still workers blocks from march 4, only physical protection was violated, this is according to the formulation of laws and our friends. the protection station is located by outsiders, what they can do. no one knows, because the specialists are prepared well enough, with a screwdriver, a small knife in their pocket, a knowledge of the new control system, put on large delctories , then it was really dangerous . normal technology today, the station is hungry, well, there is blood on the fifth block while

it is in a hot state, it does not work on the block, it is due to the electricity that is taken the systems are working, the main circulation pumps are broken, and hot water will be used to deal with the equipment there, the desk is already producing, and so on. well, this is not the work of the reactor, just to make it clear, if you have a black game, million capacities, we restored that moment of stopping, it is tormented , it is kept at the level of 10% . presented naked after a day and a half, about one and a half two megalots well, it falls very slowly well, now chudushskaya 9 months, they are cold and most importantly there are no nuclei that scare everyone , so there is a repetition of chernobyl either there варатины фоксумымы его сегодня it has been a long time since it has been impossible to use, eh, he sold the driver to whom they say well, as far as i know, the first reports about the fact that the dam was mined

were even last year when the blocks were working and when it would have been a disaster today, the water is gradually leaving the ponds it evaporates once, so it will be thrown, since there is no storage in kakhovsky, so it is natural for you, since now the pressure is opposite and the water goes into the dnieper, please slowly , therefore, from this point of view , there is no great danger. again, this may represent the detonation of some kind of storage of radioactive waste of such places at the station. there is much that these savages can come up with . not

the whole world from the realities of today, but tell me, please, this is the story that scares people that in the early hours . there they are ruled by the russians, what did they mine there, uh, that in the first hours, the authorities will not be able to inform the citizens that there was an explosion and a radiation leak, and it scares people in those first hours, if we really don’t find out what happened, that they are critical, and if you and i think that you have heard and read about this plane that went down closer to ukraine into the combined space of the american so that it tracks and can give signals about radiation in the air by taking uh this air and uh investigating it, is it really an effective work of such and such plane and why several hours suddenly, something will happen, we won't know anything, please, i don't know where such information comes from ukraine, the location of all nuclear

power plants within a radius of 30 km, we have a diesel engine, dizirovane systems, control radiation conditions, yes, she can, some parts are blocked today, eh, a taxi driver drew a case which is on the right bank , she works, we have the same surveillance system of aviation energy, so i struggle to understand how we can not have medical information about the situation at the station around her well, but such information was convenient for many people because of it again, er, we were worried about what could happen in these few hours . and i think you also familiarized yourself with well, by the way, what is interesting is that the output is now happening. it is simply a more important question. so we put it to you as a specialist. the station employees who were there before that have left such employees who are not directly related to the work of the station, let's say the chief lawyer there, a number of other officials worked there and this outflow of personnel continues

. please tell me if everyone will leave as a station will it function or why should there be some critical small number of specialists left for it to work, how can events develop then, please, if everyone stayed a distance, that is, i did not take them, they left and took everyone from there, so that it is clear, as far as i know, the russian side is speaking to the coconut planets, the function of the prison observers of the top management, our staff works in someone else's staff, but never can work not in an object because of others, we

continue to be the most realistic without which, of course, the situation can withstand it психологическое представление на работы p. mykola still has, i would like to ask, i don't know, about other countries of the country and the black sea basin, let's say romania, turkey, a little further there , bulgaria is still er, suddenly, what if there was an emission of er, radiation and wind, well, water, wind there, i don't know how is the water now because there was an explosion of a hydroelectric power plant? oh, a hydroelectric power plant was blown up under us, i don't know there, uh, and what is the situation with radiation getting into the water in the dnipro and going into the black sea. but for which neighboring countries? radiation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is what i am leading to probably now not only ukraine should take care of this and put pressure on russia , but also those who are also at risk of an accident at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power station with ecological and other

dangers, please well, i am absolutely convinced that all countries are preparing, and not only our neighbors, which are all countries, today's equipment allows it to catch even the smallest deviations, so even serious voters will also see all this at least i don't expect it. well, more sensitively, there can be some activity along the dnieper. well, there wo n't be large volumes either. there may be a local damage zone without any wind and weather conditions, in case

the reactors are affected, you and i have talked about it now, and a cold stop here somewhat protects us from the chernobyl scenario in case the russians blow up the storage facilities of radioactive waste or storage of radioactive waste, what is the scale of pollution? official sources are now telling us about the southern ukrainian regions. this is also zaporizhzhia and kherson and dnipropetrovsk regions. it is clear. your colleagues in previous broadcasts say that there are different assessments , but under no circumstances will the nikopol district, the manganetsk community, be affected more. well, of course, energodar has

a completely different set of problems. why? are you inclined ? well, there are two poems about the opponent that you need to understand. well, the radio with the spread is kilometers , not even tens of kilometers, this is the first time, and secondly, if the situation changes, it will not change so quickly. they spread quickly and here, even if you have time, it’s a good idea to bring the evacuation of people if there is a need to determine the thinning zones, we don’t need to do that, we don’t have to practice like that, there will definitely be panic problems, and there will be psychological problems, but it’s not like a disaster that is connected with detonation or

dispersal of a nuclear reactor i am very brief, but it is important. please tell me, mr. mykola , if this were to happen, god forbid, with an explosion from the nuclear power plant , will there be no education here, the question arises , is it the fault of the russians or the ukrainians, how did it happen with of the kakhovskaya hpp, we know that it was destroyed. well, the russians mined it, we blew it up. but we don't know, maybe the station was bad and fell apart on its own, that is, whether everything was obvious here, god forbid, of course, but it's important that we understand that the world knows. if suddenly it's the russians and not some kind of drone flew in and blew up the whole station, please well, i can tell you only to look for your point of view , please, for a specialist in problems, there is no problem , and for specialists in the whole world, yes, complete idiocy if the country carries it and we are still carrying it responsibility for this station, because on our territory it punishes itself by undermining a nuclear installation, so

they scream about the same thing, it's ukraine, and so on, either illiterate people, dear people, or they sit like that, and i still have certain political goals, so there will be doubts about the political request to the last ukrainian soldier all the rest unfortunately, thank you very much mr. mykola mykola shteinberg ex-chief engineer of the chornobyl npp sex chairman of the state committee on nuclear safety to the former minister of fuel and this is how he professionally and well, in principle, clearly told about what could happen and about the risks they are, but they are not so gigantic and some experts who did not work as an engineer of the ministry of emergency situations tell us on the phone denis popovych military

expert denis congratulations glory to ukraine heroes spoke on the subject of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant of the measures to which the russian federation can go in the event that everything does not turn out as cool for them as they imagined in the south of our country there is an opinion that the nuclear power plant is mined and that they they are developing a plan to undermine it and provoke a catastrophe on the territory of the soviet union in order to have a formal reason to withdraw their troops from the south of ukraine. they don’t have a country, uh, uh , taking into account the inevitability of counteroffensive actions by our defense forces, the russians need to get out of the situation with a beautiful face, as they say, create a situation in which the south of our country turns almost

to a deserted desert and our boys cannot stay in such conditions, we are leaving in general, just as ukrainians will not be able to stay in these territories, and here is the situation, he, he, only on the contrary, they lost and lost eh, can they resort to such a provocation or in fact in your opinion, they are already preparing for it, but no, the provocateurs are already preparing for this one, and we see numerous statements, including the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense , that the ukrainian nuclear power plant was mined, in particular, the e-e cooling pond bohdan's head is mined in the process regarding the scenario according to which it is a sin for the russians to blow up zaporizhzhia, the poet will create a provocation of inversion there and so on, this scenario for wealth, one scenario you are titulating about which you say that it uh-uh blew up the gas station near the ukrainians

, so to speak, he said that this in ukraine , the psychological crisis blew up, and now under this amount we are retreating from the zaporizhia and kherson regions, we are approaching the crimea , this is another scenario. this is one scenario, the second scenario is possible, support zaporizhia use in the event of our successful advance to the zaporizhzhia region in order to stop it. the third is, in principle, a sabotage that could have been planned in order to make completely unusable in fact this territory, which is located around the e-e zs to cause, i would say, broad consequences that could be compared there , in particular, with the chernobyl nuclear power plant when there was an explosion and so on, therefore, in my opinion, to this day, we need

to perceive the situation as it is, not paint scenarios, draw a scenario, do not panic and simply observe the situation as it will unfold around the gas station in its view . with respect to these threats, they will not have any effect, the only effect is to the occupation of this station by the armed forces of ukraine. i want to show you a question like this ... do you understand what the russians are fighting for today? they understood that they will not take any kyiv, even though putin recently bleated there that they will leave sometime in three days, they will try the bagnerites again in belarus, these are all fairy tales, certain territories they do not hold, certain territories can be obtained with heavy fighting and that for a short time. and then a question arises behind such a situation when russia

spends 1 billion dollars every day on the war and suffers terrible losses there, 600 to 500 to 1,000 people a day now. and we also suffer, but for what they are fighting, i have an understanding there is no such year of opinion, i still perfectly understand for us, we defend our land, but what are the russians fighting for? i do not have such an understanding, and it is even more obvious that they do not have such an understanding if we remember a point on the map . excuse me, maybe you can see some points on the map now which need to be kept, something important to them i am not talking about ideology , what they are fighting for, but specifically physiologically , why should we close for mariupol , why is it simple? so, if they keep bakhmut there, relatively speaking, they keep bakhmut, then why do they keep him in order to keep him, but they were forced to leave there, you understand, the war is for each individual settlement there, a city

, a village, an urban-type village, it must be subordinated to the general flow of war , so they keep bakhmut, for example, bakhmut , and that's what they say about him. let's say so, yes, they took him. bakhmut did everything to advance to kramatorsk, sloviansk, she is being pushed to kramatorsk, sloviansk, where are they going? are advancing, why are they advancing, what political goals are they pursuing by waging war with us? recently , it was believed that this war was being waged by putin in order to save his face and authority. it is impossible. how can it be that russia loses the war in ukraine ? let's continue to throw more people into the furnace of war so that they support putin's authority and enable him to lose this war on

credit terms, so in installments. but after adventure riot of the adventure institution and even this motive he absolutely did not choose due to the fact that it is worse to hit putin repeatedly, the prigozhin institution can't even defeat in ukraine, so if he now knows the defeat in ukraine, it won't be worse, as they say, because after e- it's an adventure story, and they don't see any sense in the fact that they, the russians, waged this war , you know, as porto said to the famous film, i 'm going to die because there are no more russians , let's say, motives, i'm here. on time it has already surfaced, thank you very much, mr. denisa, denis popovych, a military expert , was in touch with us, well, i just want to say that uh , kadyrov allegedly appeared so on on on on the name yes because here we should have said that kadyrov is dying there are his kidneys not dying, are they sick or not, well, the person is swollen quite significantly , but there can be various reasons. forgive me , even when we have scriptomas, they can lead to swelling. well, in any case

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