[000:00:00;00] i am not saying that it should be done immediately today, although it would be better, but the window of opportunity for nato is not so big now, i would give nato the opportunity this year and the next. it is here that further events can develop in such a way that nato can be divided in the event of a mistake and then to weaken both parts of nato, that is, this scenario is possible and they also understand more about it, moreover, ukraine outside the alliance, in my opinion, is definitely a worse situation for them. from the point of view of even resources, collective defense is cheaper. and since the ukrainians have already mastered a large number of nato types of weapons, in principle, it is logical that there is interoperability, if the armed forces joined nato, i think they would make a decision faster, but everything stands in the way not only internally, there are

certain moments in ours that are not up to reform, but rather a political decision, so e- you know, being from their side, it is possible a few years ago, i would have said that this is a very bold step and it should be considered. and now i am sure that it is the only right step to have ukraine inside alisa and not outside. nato countries or individual nato countries, is it still possible to have a dialogue with putin's russia from russia, they are not just having a dialogue with russia, they are having a dialogue with the regime, when was the campaign of these lagerer mercenaries, as we call the age, there was a constant 24/7 open line to moscow- washington and yes they support this reality they support this contact especially on issues related to the strategic stability of the use of weapons of mass

destruction they were worried about whether this group can take control of the storage of tactical nuclear weapons say more yes they support it we we have to give it to ourselves well, to know that our allies have not closed these lines is it good or bad and how they communicate is a separate issue, but they must act decisively and not believe the aggressor that you can agree on something else with him, you can agree with a strong position in fact, there is nothing to agree on, they can add something from a strong position, and a strong position is a victory for ukraine. they must now provide all the necessary resources if a political decision on

the provision of long-range missiles is not announced in the coming weeks. well, more like and there up to 300 km and similar, i will believe that this will not be just a mistake of the country, it will be unacceptable for our common election goals , the former president of the united states of america , donald trump, valery last week, he said that ukraine may have to cede part of the territory to stop hostilities , that is, he er, there is such a statement and such a formula that ukraine will receive peace, but if it cedes territory already occupied by russia, this formula is constantly prescribed by russia through its various intermediaries the new territorial reality that ukraine has to recognize is according to your opinion, if it is hepatic even to assume that trump will win the next elections in the united states of america

, should we expect the americans without comments , i will explain why when i was in the position of ambassador after the announcement of the presidential candidate donald trump of the united states that crimea should leave russia, one of them told the american level that this will not be the case, and crimea is ukrainian. criticism, as i received in ukraine , is that the ambassador has no right to comment, that it is not necessary to enter the internal i know the politics of the usa, so i hope that the mood in ukraine will change based on what i heard from the americans, as you said, and you just have to talk about it to express a position , because the presidential candidates are very important people, they influence a huge audience, so on my view i would repeat

the same i would now make some reaction to the candidate's statements regarding the inadmissibility of such consideration of the issue of territory trade from 10 years calmly reasoned with legal conclusions that's all therefore we will to cooperate with that president who is taken by the people well, but we will not fulfill, let's say, the wishes of well, i don't know, well, trump can say that well, you sign such and such a useless agreement, otherwise you won't get weapons there or you won't get our help we understand that the united states of america is a strategic country for us and an important country that plays a decisive role in the world and in this situation, how much

has it changed? even somewhere, somewhere, you know, it’s the red ones, it’s the use of the tools of diplomacy, if we here in ukraine , politically, criticize such active diplomats and ambassadors, then they will look at us like that, so i absolutely agree with you . of course, the position of trade in the territories of ukraine is absolutely unacceptable, no matter where it comes from, for the simple reason that it is enshrined in the constitution of ukraine, and whoever tries to violate it, of course, will lose not only the support of the people, but also certain there will be doubts about the legality of this. that is why we need, i emphasize once again, not to look at the united states. our solution is in ukraine, so we will be confident in ourselves , united and active. we will be supported by our partners, including

the united states. i will tell you based on my communication with donald trump don't bury it for us, it's all people with a lot of experience, but they are like henry kissenger . by the way, they know how to look at the situation so wisely, they change their position, henry kissenger said in 99 years that ukraine will never be a member of nato and this is the wrong approach , but when it happened to him, he said no , now i change my mind, i think ukraine should be taken, yes, he is a wise man with a flexible mind. that in this situation we are talking about the collection of evidence, the beginning of building a case already now regarding russia's aggression against ukraine , according to your opinion, how long can this take, and the collection of evidence and

the upcoming trial, because for ukrainians, the main thing is that those who aggressively go to our the state and is killing us now so that they appear before the court and receive punishment, first of all, this is part of the real end of the war, a just peace without this will still remain and there may be relapses, there will be unfinished business over time, it is always very long, moreover, i will tell you if you follow the proposals of the so-called mediators to establish peace with putin, then from this moment on, as with putin, no one persecuted him because of this , for sure.

it's just a key. that is, they simply won't be able to judge him in any way right away, and historically they were like that. it was pitiful when the next government issued him, so it was with african presidents who could also run somewhere at once, and now he is sitting alone, so that sooner or later responsibility will come . it is unknown whether the sentence and prosecution will come sooner or simply the disappearance of this character. so these are legal cases, they usually drag on for quite a long time, as an example of the investigation of mh seventeen despite the fact that everything was quite obvious, but all the evidence was collected for a long time, but there is a solution . well, it took many years. thank you , mr. valery, for participating in our program. - in 2019, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel , also on our social networks and on youtube

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, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, the events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people in the evening, nayspresso soon the yellowstone volcano will explode, that's why the americans are looking for a country or territory in europe, where they could move and this territory is ukraine, it is the israelis who organized the war between ukraine and russia , the slavs are destroying each other, and these territories will then be inhabited by jews and those whom they want to bring here

these and other stories i think you have heard more than once these so-called conspiracy theories that are now accumulating especially in our social networks on the territory of our state, we hear every day about what is happening here, who are behind what we we see on the screens of our televisions and everyone proves to us that everything is not as simple as it seems to us, there are some secret conspiracies behind it, the world government, humanoids, aliens with a base in antarctica who rule the world, and that is why there is a war of theories , conspiracy, conspiracy, what about us what demotivates us is what does not make us confused and what detaches us from reality, because life is real , we will talk about this today, and it is very important to understand what is actually happening, what they want to convince us of, and what from what we they want to convince is a lie, they say, you know, there is always a very simple rule: if something looks like crap, smells like crap, and tastes like crap, well, you don't need to taste it, then maybe it's crap, and you don't need to invent anything like that, just

like conspiracy theories, so today's talk i am attaching dmytro popov, candidate of psychological sciences, ex-serviceman of the security service of ukraine . dmytro welcomes you, i welcome you, and we are also with you. oleksandr zelenko associate professor of the department of psychology of the kyiv national university. dmytro, mr. oleksandr. i chat with you once in the hotel, so it's nice to meet you online, and that's the topic i chose for myself . because you know. to be honest, i remember whether tiktok broadcasts on social networks and others there, well, especially on facebook. well , those who have the most of these conspiracy theories are simply a mass and every time they tell more and more incredible stories and many people who have very bad knowledge of history, bad knowledge of political science in general, and understanding of the world have bad critical thinking, they can live with all this. on minibuses at work to infect other people with this and not be able to find out what is the truth in what is actually not the first question, i will not

offer you such a thing and what conspiracy theory or what conspiracy theory have you heard most often now or which in your opinion is currently the most promoted the most popular of what is now in ukraine, as they say, it wanders, dmitry, please, well, in fact, what you said about yellowstone and israel, yes, it exists , but in my opinion, again from the source of information that i study, i heard others theories although it i also heard, and the first theory that is general hmm spread through many mass media is that the russian ethnic group, i.e. orthodox russia a-a m-m e-e is in a state of struggle with

evil e-e it is evil it is connected states e which there are very interspersed with freemasons, illuminati and other reptiloids for the right to own the entire globe with me, and here are the orthodox slavs definitely they are only russians and all the others are orthodox slavs like them they fight against evil and that's how you inquintessence this fight takes place exactly on in the territory of ukraine, this is the first such conspiracy theory and the second confrological theory is that er-e nazism is alive er-e nazism has a sign of equality with fascism and again it must be suppressed and it er-e for some reason has its manifestations precisely on the territory of ukraine that is, we have decided on those theories. well, in principle, they are the most effective. now, i would also monitor what is currently being launched into space. and now

, oleksandr, i will ask you what theories you think are popular now and again what do you think they are? the most harmful and the most are those that are perceived best by the population, please, well, the most important thing is now it is clear that i have its own effect and it is always in rotation the theory that all the events in ukraine were initiated by the united states in order to involve russia in a huge world conflict, in order to involve it, to provoke this family into a struggle , with a collective measure, the west wants to stop history, that is, to completely take over, to return

the colonial system. and all the good ones are russia, china, and there is zimbabwe and venezuela. all the bad guys converged on the territory of ukraine and ukraine turned out to be the trap in which they tried to trap russia, all of them are freemasons again. well, they are reptilians. thank god, but already before the freemasons, capitalists , rockefellers, rothschilds, and all that. actually speaking the same shadow government, you already have soros with bzhizinsky and all of them, but the whole war between the people of the east and all this will be cursed by the saxon angel, but it is the same more theory, it is very often. by the way, it is now absolutely clearly

articulated in all mass media of russia now now, now i will ask you to explain why people like to listen to these conspiracy theories, again, the video i saw on tiktok. i was removed from it for a long time because it is a chinese resource that is not very safe. well, you can see what the pso is currently doing against ukrainians in ukraine, and there is such a video, which means hillary clinton gave an interview to some american publication, there are no citations, well , the citation is simply voice, that is, you do not see the original source, you do not know this publication when it came out, the passport number. as they say, the series doesn't have all of that, it's just the words that ira allegedly said with hydraulic wind, which means that the yellowstone volcano will explode sooner or later, and of course then life in the usa will be impossible, and in order to save the state of the usa, they now think that

it can be done in ukraine because here is an ideal climate after global warming , it's just a fact in ukraine and everything will be subtropical climate so that yes subtropical climate then it will be good here and this and people listen to it they are not looking for primary sources they don't do factchattings, they don't check anything and it's nice to hear it, that's why i want to say p dmytro, is it nice to listen? do people just don't want to give themselves extra trouble to check something and think for themselves why conspiracy theories at all times, especially now when the war is a big war, what a war it's hard to explain, you have to think, you have to accept a lot of unpleasant things, it's difficult, but here there is always a simple formula 2 + 2 = 4 everything and it's very easy and it's very pleasant to the ears, it explains everything that this is the main reason for the popularity of conspiracy theories or any other, please, mr. dmytro well, i believe that what you said also has the right to life

, but still there are certain regularities of the theory of conversation. by the way, supernatural conspiracy is from the word conspiracy, that is, a conspiracy . that is, this is conspiracy. and fence theory are synonyms. first of all, it is a conspiracy theory. it is not a falsifying principle. why? because it is impossible to prove either the falsity of the theory or, on the contrary, that it really exists. there is such a circle of judgment if, for example we have some evidence for example, they have obviously proven about this er hmm this speech by clinton which

is possible and does not exist at all this damn reptilian nonsense is circulating even before the freemasons, here they are, they are specially introducing this from the mass media to fool ordinary people , but in fact it exists from the language . that is, we do not falsify it, and that is why it will exist and will exist, and there is nothing else. all people, of course, believe in this because the level of critical thinking, he has a very, very high degree of struggle with all propagandistic influences and influences related to mythology or from history from language, which is also a kind of manifestation of mythology and here too -e causes e-e comes to the first place is that people who are inclined to accept do not possess and do not have

such critical thinking, they cannot and do not want to how did you tell her to check something e-e they are very ecstasy by the way, they were conducted psychological research in this er-e regarding this they have an increased degree of paranoia ie uh, anxiety about the fact that something might uh, arise or happen uh, and this is me uh, now i'm not talking about uh, a psychiatric diagnosis, but about accented personality, paranoid personality accentuations, there is such a psychology uh, and uh, that's why these people, they believe the question. how many such people are there in the world now? i will tell you now, they are stunned by the number, in my opinion, from those sources that i have seen at least 80%. why? because the world is now in a paradigm of necessity, i.e. marketing

e-e pr and other technologies of lp they do with a person is a robot that should get certain products, and in general, all mass media , it is aimed at destroying a person's critical thinking, and so that a person becomes easily controlled by a person, who can then perform that what will be said to her from the screens or monitors of television or the internet and by the way in russia they know this as well as nowhere because there propaganda and insinuations through the mass media , in my opinion, now ranks first in the world, you know, some people say lay out we want to spread a separate video, it's important, we'll post it well, we just have a chat on youtube, people write their posts, someone writes yes, no theories, pure practice, sorry for the talkers and fools, well, it's just as common that all blind people

are deep and only one is d'artagnan, because of you, we we are losing our freedom on a tablet and so on and so on, people should understand one thing here if a certain theory is so spread and spread in tiktok, facebook, instagram , etc. not a theory you ever saw that she gave out diamonds or rolls-royce cars to people on the street, let's say, or she was on this laser coast in france or on a lake in italy . i honestly don't see anyone in italy. i would take it. well, i like a good car. i haven't driven it. i like it, but it doesn't happen that you can afford it. it's not given out if you imagine there's a mi-6 mi 5. the sbu plays a lot of intelligence

around the world, which consumes huge amounts money in order to get some secrets, and here dudes appear and say we'll tell you what's happening, just turn on the current, we'll tell you what 's happening in the world, they won't tell you, well, it 's just me, i add that secrets even if there are conspiracy theories, i'm not against it of course, there are conspiracy theories, there are conspiracies, because even in a small team there are again between employees in the big world, it is clear that they can be business political conspiracies, this is understandable, but this does not mean that this is some such terrible conspiracy of humanoids. therefore, it is necessary to understand one real secret they acquire through intelligence sometimes values ​​the lives of employees with a lot of money and they definitely do not tell in tik tos p oleksandr the same topic to you question why do people buy this why they think they learn something that no one knew about and now they they know how everything is arranged, why everything is happening, please well, you know, i can lift your spirits a little. as they say, there are places where you can come and they will give you

a rolls-royce and a villa and everything else. go to the verkhovna rada, er, find it they say theirs people, if you succeed, they will give you everything, and as they say , you are chickens, even more so, unfortunately, this is such a sad joke, but it is not even a joke, why does this happen ? i agree with my colleague about the paranoid situation. yes, but there is something more oscar. the section on the division of people into adults and children, infantile people, that is, the specificity of the basic basis of a child's thinking is egocentrism , percentageism - this is a position that foresees everything that

happens. i am the cause and i am the goal. are worried about the divorce of their parents because they can't, you won't be able to prove to them that the parents are breaking up with each other, the children are sure that the parents are leaving them because everything revolves around them, and the basis of adult thinking is selfishness , which can be drilled out with one phrase: what do i get out of this, if a person is in an infantile position, that is, it has grown big, but intellectually and emotionally, it is