[000:00:00;00] about 9 or 10 km from bakhmut and here the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine hints at the fact that there are successes in the attack on klichchivka, and in particular, the russian so-called warlords also reported on kremlin telegram channels that the ukrainian armed forces are pushing out and expelling the russian forces from the tick yury fedorenko has already rejoined our broadcast. can you hear me? that's what you said . you compared the actual wagnerites with the forces that russia currently represents in the eastern direction. thank you. there is a powerful institute of field commanders, some lead directly to us groups. also , they have a system of coercion that works effectively enough, what is meant by groups that are made from the route were those that do not fulfill the tasks are liquidated, such a punishment as public execution works systematically, that is, it is

absolutely normal for them things and probably due to these components, not the human relationship with the personnel of the pvp wagner and ensured its effectiveness as far as storms z in relation to them are also already regular troops the contractors perform the function of the charge of the sub-contracts, they mainly storm like stormsite, they are followed by mobilized troops, and they are already followed by more qualitatively prepared troops, which are more than from the point of view of training for the russian federation than the consumables that they use on the front, and this consumables still remains in russian prisons and in all kinds of remote areas , because the mobilization in the russian federation, as we all understand, continues. but despite the combined tactics used by the enemy despite the fact that the enemy unfortunately has the advantage of artillery means in the amount of ammunition in general defense by means of the customers by the quality of the ammunition trained in this personnel and also the motivation manages

to ensure a powerful result, i must say frankly communicating with authoritative people, including those who have certain representations in the nato countries, they say that what the defense forces do on the battlefield is simply that you do not invest in any conventionally speaking rules of war, the rules of war as provided for by the statutes of the armed forces or nato, and at the same time, the ukrainian side complies with international conventions regarding the detention of prisoners of war, and according to the rules of the introduction of war, we do not use a prohibited type of ammunition, and if the occupier surrenders to the russians, he is always taken prisoner, but today we also saw how western journalists asked general syriansky whether does he believe in the release of bakhmut , here you are, we were talking about the tick. i say this again, near bakhmut, what is needed now by the ukrainian forces to free bakhmut, it is very

important that there is unity within the country so that the nation understood that there was a full-scale war in ukraine and relentlessly continued to support the defense forces. the first factor. the second factor is that our international partners were aware of the commander-in-chief's request and did not delay the delivery of new batches of ammunition for long-range missiles. finally, the issue of f-16 aircraft was resolved. the necessary technical and fire equipment that will help the defense forces to buy our territories faster and more effectively to save the lives of our military and the civilian population who temporarily is in the occupied territories there, very much for your comment, yuriy fedorenko, commander of the achilles 92 attack unmanned aviation complex company, is a separate mechanized brigade , was on

radio svoboda. he is aware of the statements of both sides. what statements were actually made? zaporizhzhia npp on the night of april 5, that is, on the night that has already passed , the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, announced the night before that the russian military had installed objects similar to explosives on the roof of several power units of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. the night passed, but it passed relatively calmly. coolers with stable however , against the background of all these reports about the explosion of the station, the ministry of health of ukraine issued recommendations in the event of an explosion at the npp in recommendations, in particular, for the residents of the zone of a potential radiation accident, they call to be ready for evacuation journalists from the reuters agency spoke with the residents of zaporizhzhia, are they ready for evacuation

, listen, we hope well, we are following, of course , we hope that everything will be fine somehow , well, nuclear energy is not a joke. everyone has already experienced it. therefore, it is scary in principle, so we hope that nothing serious will happen if a mass evacuation is announced, of course we will leave the things , we have a little 40 people with us, we left in english with empty hands. therefore, we will go further, i would not like to follow, of course, what thoughts are there, i don’t believe that they will take or if they explode some kind of terrorist attack just to scare me. i don’t think that there will be such a direct current of radiation and something that will somehow

affect us. my little medicine documents well, i have a handbag, water, that's all, a couple of masks. well, in the meantime, the russian authorities intend to send even more prisoners and chechen soldiers to ukraine in order to avoid full mobilization in the country , bloomberg writes about this with reference to sources in european intelligence, according to interlocutors of the agency, the lack of personnel in the russian army arose at the end of may after the departure of wagner's group from bakhmut, which in turn forced the military to transfer additional resources to this direction . russia intends , including with the help of prisoners, according to european intelligence, the russian ministry of defense has already recruited about 15,000 people , in addition, representatives of european intelligence believe that russia will send even

more troops from chechnya to ukraine, which, according to blomberg, were not actually detected before at the same time, they understand exactly how many additional forces chechnya can provide . in may of this year, the head of the republic, ramzan kadyrov, said that 7,000 chechen soldiers seem to be already fighting in ukraine. prigozhin agreed with the russian authorities that he would allegedly go to belarus and the criminal case against him would be closed. well , yuriy fedorov , a military and political expert of thirst, joins our broadcast live. good evening, good. i'll start in order. today, british intelligence noted in today's review that generals sergey survykin and yunus beg yevkurov - this is shoigu's deputy - do not appear in public

after this riot in the congregation, and that this is considered a sign of a split in российский системе бесплатно вызители вы россов е-е is there a split and what does it consist of yes of course there are quite a lot of signs of that i repeat signs of е-е of what is happening in the russian high military command in the general it is completely incomprehensible and the following signs are not only the disappearance of the thief and the incomprehensible story with their cow because he was supposed to be present on er on monday at this meeting that and you were not there and the explanation as a rule there are none it doesn’t mean history with escorov, but it’s not all , it’s not far

from it, it’s not all the signs of schism. and the main thing is that i was also offered. it wasn’t adventures, and here’s such a field commander of the african type. much was and serious and the reason here, that is, and by the way, these arguments are used in the fact that the russian army, the russian armed forces, had the opportunity to suppress the rebellion in the first few minutes when it started, the movement of the columns to rostov never began, they could uh, protect rostov, they could expel uh, wagner, so that they could return it, yes, they could stop the movement of the column to moscow, nothing was done to me , why, why, uh, putin, uh, first issued an order to suppress the rebellion and

punish the traitors how he he expressed himself literally after there was some very insignificant time, well, he saw less than a while, but he had to dial the tube , dial lukashenka's number and ask him to come and come, these very famous words , becoming precisely maybe sasha, he does not pick up the phone when he spoke a sentence, it means that something like that is happening . did not have the strength to present a rebellion, here are actually these signs of putin's weakness in the night from june 23 to june 24 and throughout

almost today, june 24, and then the schizophrenic disorder again occurs. the truth seems to be that they are dollars, but for that they are returned if there is such a virus, the status of prigozhyn is an obvious rebel , there are no words here , according to all laws. it moves between minsk and there, apparently, petersburg itself, and it is returned to him, they understand all this money, and of course the question is where is syroveykin? yes, where is the turn

? ah raw materials, regardless of what is respected in the circles of the russian military, and they say that's why putin didn't risk arresting him and applying some other sanctions. do you share this point of view and in general, how does the absence of surovekin affect the front, how important a role he played, well, the front is affected insignificantly, because instead of a holiday, the place is empty. in the air space forces, but he's not a pilot , he's an aviator, er, so, er, he's just generally an army general who was appointed to command, er, to command the air and space forces of combat aviation there with all kinds of space missiles on

devices and so on. well, it’s the same as tooth rotation, you know, i have a very good attitude towards tankers, but nevertheless, if you put it and force it to heal, but i don’t know what kind of tumor it will be, it won’t cure us much, it can’t be said that way at all eh, he will see the patient to death, and that’s how they managed the air force, not at the level, but many of his subordinate professionals or points, etc. on the front, the other will affect the front this is the split that we talk about in the general in the midst of the general, this is because i have the highest command busy with internal showdowns, not planning and

operations, not commanding the troops, then the action of the already active army today, i apologize for the etutology, it will be similar to the action well, some kind of organism from which they took their head off or shot it in the brain , eh, it will be chaotic actions before actually. that's how it happens at the front , as i understand it, the troops are poorly coordinated, which means that they coordinate with each other. in general, this is already a serious factor that weakens the ability of the russian army . well, blomberg today wrote a publication about the fact that the russian government wants to send even more prisoners to the front and even more er, chechen military or

chechen fighters, i am here to the end . consider these prisoners and chechen soldiers as a resource, how big is putin? well, putin does not have enough prisoners in general. criminals who have not been convicted . let's call them convicts in russia. serious crimes against these people, first of all, liverpool will be sent to the army . about uh-uh, there are reasons for utjazhka, interesting damage, and so on, and so on, that is, people who are similar to uh-uh jargon, you can

call them frozen in the known world, but these people just go to the russian army and are defined in many ways, so to speak moral and combative, but from the point of view of these people, it is necessary to train them for several months, er, to train even the elementary technique of introducing buoys, but in the army in russia , they will add something else to these people, er, well, including in wagner’s group , this was also throw into battle who is higher than you will pass through a few battles and survive well, that's in general already here to say well, a puppy that throws water knows how to swim, won't be able to swim out, so it will be a good dog well, it's the same, and on these people, that is , it's just normal natural selection, uh, yes that by itself the appearance at the front of several tens of thousands of these

prisoners, well, it can even create additional difficulties for the management of the troops, let's say a dozen ex -criminals appear in a company. the commander of the company will be able to cope with it, this is another question, but as a result , the russians can get this after a few months, they can get this, the corps, here are such people who have already tasted the blood of those who passed because of natural selection, it is a serious force, but first of all, it will not even threaten the general non-armed forces of ukraine, they will threaten the russians . yes, sooner or later, they will return home . or somewhere in the middle of the front

. - these are not the main ones that v in general, it has been a long time since we dreamed of such a thing in russia after the civil war of the 18th year, a hundred years ago, so this is not

a solution to the problem . putin will be able to wage war for a long time, or sooner or later, and how soon or how late he will still have to announce mobilization i think that there freedom will definitely have to announce mobilization because the losses that the russian army is suffering are very significant. people who themselves sign a contract with the russian army well, that means then they will have to announce an additional set of people already take those people well, who will get from those people and will be taken ? so i think putin has

two options here, either they have to end the mobilization war, or he would do it himself, or he would force him to do it, or he would have to announce the mobilization of more and more manpower. more modern weapons well, then, here's the desired force against modern weapons, that's a very weak argument, live, thirsty , we were turned on, thank you nato membership is the only guarantee of security for ukraine and it is important that during the upcoming summit in vilnius on july 11-12 , nato member states agree on practical steps about how ukraine will join the alliance , in an exclusive interview with radio svoboda, the prime minister of estonia

, who was a member of the alliance, said at the same time that there will be no membership as long as the hostilities continue while the hostilities continue while the war continues, what kyiv will hear for itself in vilnius is not known for sure at the moment, according to radio svoboda sources who are familiar with the situation from the inside but are not authorized to comment on it publicly. in the declaration itself , it can be stated that nato undertakes to accept ukraine as a member of the alliance when the consequences or conditions allow it and that this topic can be reviewed . during the nato summit in washington next summer, what kyiv can and cannot hope for at the summit in vilnius what security guarantees can be and is a german scenario possible when during one war the western part of the country was nato and eastern - no, listen. what does the prime minister say about this to estonia, what kind of girl

is not far away ? we agreed on practical steps for ukraine to join nato a few weeks ago i was reading a book about the history of nato since the fall of the berlin wall and interestingly the countries of the visegrad group czech republic hungary poland and slovakia and the baltic states were were admitted to nato and then the president of the usa whose rhetoric was if they will be members changed it to when they will be members of nato and i believe that such an attitude should also be towards ukraine not if but when of course we understand that this is not uhu but we must have a clear path how will ukraine get there let's talk about when can we see something before the nato summit in washington next year it's hard to say there are many conditions the question is how the war is going but there are

practical steps we can take in between i think we should end the gray areas in europe, because gray areas are the source of conflicts and wars. so, if we want to have peace, then membership in nato is the only security guarantee and the cheapest security guarantee that exists. there are talks about a kind of variant of germany, speaking of course about germany during the cold war, when the western part was in nato and the eastern part was not. can you see such a division of ukraine where the ukrainian part governed by the ukrainian government can be part of nato and also part of article 5 of the clause on mutual defense of nato and the eastern part part - not yet i think that we need to understand that aggression will not help anyone , i mean that we do not recognize that the territories that are currently occupied by russia in one way or another belong to russia , that the war will end when the russian army returns to russia only when you receive

the territories then aggression really pays off, of course you lose people in the process, but in the conditions of a dictatorship, they are not taken into account. so this payoff is a very bad signal for international law and also for the security of the whole world, this should be remembered, but clear steps for the accession of ukraine after the end of the war and during the war, this is what we can give them, considering that no nato country really wants to join this war, and what the west can give them during the war is that we have provided military aid to ukraine until now, and i sometimes think if we provided all the military aid we provide now already in january 2022 as estonia did or even in february 2022 maybe we have already seen the end of this war because russia realized earlier that it

cannot win this war but we have to keep our position and do it as much as necessary to support ukraine, this is what we can do, but also the agreements or what individual nato allies give to ukraine , not too much as an organization, the north atlantic alliance should launch the procedure for the accelerated acceptance of ukraine into nato at the vilnius summit, and before that how will ukraine become a full member send an expeditionary force there with such a call made by the columnist of the british newspaper times roger boyer he is called a veteran of british journalism boyer he worked as a correspondent in moscow back in the 70s, and he believes that the alliance must hurry because donald trump may return to power in the usa. boyer writes that this war is being waged mainly with the help of us intelligence weapons. are we our closest partners? from the eu and poland, which claims leadership in the european union, this, in the author's opinion, tells nato

exactly how to collectively identify new threats from putin's russia, build a more integrated military-industrial complex, and master the art of forming a coalition with the times columnist considers nato to be partners in all this for one year, since after the us elections at the end of next year , donald trump may return to the white house. if this happens, ukraine will no longer be able to count on the current large volume of western military aid , the times journalist believes. to the western press , i just want to remind or point out that currently ukraine actually has bipartisan support in the us from both the democrats and the republicans, and in fact we have seen a lot of examples when, on the contrary, the republicans a separate wing of the republicans even puts pressure on the democrats from time to time and calls on the white house and joe biden to provide more and more aid to ukraine, and even

here is a recent example, on the one hand, donald trump, and he has a whole wing of republicans in the ranks of the republicans, who are called trumpists, that's donald trump trump hints to ukraine that it should start trading its territories, and at the same time, its former president, mike penn, was in kyiv, and on the contrary, he showed support for ukraine, visited bucha irpin, and that's it. as of now, we see two absolutely opposite and different views. in the ranks of the republicans, however, these are such risks and theses they are saying that if donald trump comes to power in the usa, he will begin to gravitate more and more towards negotiations with russia , that he will begin to incline ukraine more to these negotiations and that it will reduce or will contribute to the reduction of western american support for ukraine, and this is only an assumption , many political scientists and diplomats actually

believe that the statements of the candidate's policy are some statements, but here are the statements of politics, already the politics of the president, another of officials, they can absolutely be different and differ , we will certainly discuss all this now, but if we speak in the context of ourselves, nato in vilnius , which he will remind, will take place on july 11-12. so you could see and hear just the day before, for example, volodymyr zelenskyi gave a big interview in the fall, and he directly, or rather indirectly, but turned to joe biden and said that he urged him to invite ukraine to nato, even though in nato for the whole country, the countries are equal, now it is 31 countries, maybe by the fall it will be 32 countries if sweden finally joins but still , according to the absolute majority of diplomats and security experts, the united

states plays the most important role in the alliance and because of that if now, for example, there were calls from joe biden to ukraine to support ukraine to invite to nato, the absolute majority of nato countries would support such a decision and perhaps there would not be as many disputes as there are now because so far joe has not made such a statement, it is not known how the countries that are focusing on the united states all this time will act, and there are actually many such countries, and i also want to remind you that this is the latest message, news if we we are talking about the nato summit so i will remind you that the day before it became known that the secretary general of nato and genstoltenberg will stay on for another year, and just then the british publication the telegram is writing about the fact that

us president joe biden personally blocked the candidacy of the minister of defense britain's ben wallace for the position of secretary general of nato, and ben wallace applied for this position, but biden allegedly blocked it precisely because the british, without the consent of washington, began to promote the idea of ​​training ukrainian pilots on the f16, this is the kind of news that the telegraph writes. and we too i hope we will discuss it now, if our next guest joins from minute to minute, let me remind you that we are currently showing yantz from toltenberg, he was recently in kyiv , he remains, he remains for another year, uh, the secretary general of nato, and this decision has already been agreed upon. and we very often had to actually hear that if we talk about yencestol himself, many here , just in the ukrainian political community, consider him a great friend