[000:00:00;00] something that needs to be answered. and who is mainly coming up with conspiracy theories in the world now with reference to ukraine? france may have its own in spain, and somewhere else, some of its own . why is there a war in our country, why is it worth ending it, embracing the miroyan brothers and opposing slavic unity against world capitalism, at least some kind of slavic unity, if we have seen here all the peoples of the world, as far as they can be, from the buryats to the chukchi mayor's office, and so on and where is this slavs it's hard for me to explain, but that's what mr. oleksandr spoke about last time, if i'm not mistaken, i'm sure peter's question is, who do you think is coming up with this conspiracy theory right now for ukraine, only russia or not, you know, i 'll answer your question. - first of all, i want to say that now the grandmothers have demonstrated two very effective tools of propaganda first

propaganda of the first tool - this is a big lie and it is people from the screen speak without appeal but very confidently eh the most terrible and most glaringly untrue, that is, a lie, but to say it with such an appearance that it seems to be the truth. and what these old women said was also exactly what kiselyov said on his show, solovyov on his show, and even shoigu, who also spoke about the fact that if putin and our armed forces do not shine, then everything was much worse , but we remember that prigozhin took the headquarters in rostov, and the circus in rostov and voronezh without a fight , that is, all this they say is not the truth.

in general, and the fact that putin is a star here, that's all saved no, that is, lukashenko was saved for sure if he really did something there and one and a half of this is of course propaganda, this is not theoretical, but about who writes them this temniki and who gives them this script because it is so , it can be a conspiracy theory well, i see here e- it's only the russian special services, that is, it's in their interests to provide exactly this information and, in general, all the coverage of any events in ukraine or in russia related to this war. it's in the interests of the russian special services and e of which the leadership of e-e special services, it can be the fsb and svr and gur e it can be er or together or on the behavior alone er that’s why er i see it only this way and in general er

does putin himself take part in this or not i am sure not because well in general i am a supporter of er m- there are several views of putin, and i can prove it, and the fact that putin is very fond of aloof people can you say a few words, why are there a few of them, except for some possible physiognomic differences, which for 14 people, no in physiognomy, well, that is, there are really distances on the face, that is, e- is the structure of the human skull that distinguishes one from the other i now count three e-putin columns and one bunker bunker tank, which are considered the main one and i am the main clone. yes, i do. i also think that he is not the putin who came to power in 2000. that is, he is also a clone, but he is considered the main one, that is, he

the same bunker, that is, and where exactly the main one is unknown, yes, as far as i understand it, well, i do, for now, this is conspiracy theory. i understand that there is a collective putin , which may include the kovalchuks of patrushev and anyone like whom we even and we don't know, that is, this cooperative lake that is propagandized, maybe they are, well, it's actually now this conspiracy eh and eh regarding putin, he does not take part because he generally tries to distance himself, why is this what his closest associate said in the past - this is pugachev, such a businessman who accepted french citizenship, refused his russian citizenship, he was a neighbor of putin for a long time and communicated very closely with him , so the main manner of putin's behavior is exclusion from decision-making in order to for someone else to accept it, do something, and then if it turns out well, putin

will be sidelined, that is, putin will cut the bonuses from it. that is, a very good position. well, it is clearly not a calculated or plasticine position of the ruler of russia and the ruler of the second country and the second army in the world. you know, he made the biggest mistake when he said in a video message that i made a decision to start a special military operation. there is no way he will turn around. everything will end like this. it will end, we believe in our victory and the armed forces of ukraine, but here he said, and it was his decision, well, what about your opinion, oleksandr? well, you can also express your opinion about putin . and really who comes up with these theories and again here is what comes up. one thing is that they are full of ukrainian tik-tok facebook segments. well, if you watch a short video, it is on youtube, that is enough here in our territory of our

country, this video is just it. simply i look at it a lot, as a matter of fact, as a military psychologist, as a military journalist, and as a journalist, i’m also interested, and that is, my brain sometimes can’t stand it, i understand what ’s going on in the heads of people who are not ready for such information, in your opinion, why is there so much of it now in ukraine and again well, it is possible that our relevant services are not working somewhere, or it is not possible to stop the multiplication of these theories on these very uh, these information carriers, please, on digitalina , you can stop all this is being done, but i will tell you now such a banal territorial thing this is what everyone does at school, er, when i teach military psychologists . sometimes i show them such an er example, well, americans . everything is quite patriotic, a highly patriotic

nation, er, in the national level, a high level of nationalism, everything is fine, er, and that's it. i give them an example of 2 films , by the way, today is the independence day of the united states and they have such a fantastic film, an action movie of good quality. there is a moment that is very clear to americans and which when you show it to our uh, even cadet psychologists, they are immediately shocked because they don’t pay attention to it. there is a moment when the already old former president of the united states sits at the helm of the plane to lead the last attack of humanity against the enemy

of his daughter who is next to me on another plane , even so, dad. you have already saved the planet once, you probably already have enough, and the president of the united states, in such a state of patriotic spirit , says i am not saving humanity, i am here to save you the highest level of understanding why do i need all this and the second film, well, with such an eloquent title, the patriot, probably everyone has seen it where we are gibson or not, definitely not enough gipson and here you are, the whole beginning of the whole film is shown how to spit, the farmer wanted to spit, the local, yes , the special forces, yes, veteran, everything it's great, everyone around is surrounded by such a patriotic urge to fight for independence, and he says, i

have a family, and wait , he wanted your independence, and he wanted to act, his sons are ashamed of him, but father, well, how can you all in the church they are ready to go, he says, but i have children, i have a family, i have a farm, i am not into patriotism, and only when his son dies and he has his own interest , a conscious, understandable adult why will he fight for his ukraine? after this moment he becomes the main character in the speech dedicated to the whole film not impulsiveness not agitation not propaganda but an adult choice here i will give another example in my time when i was studying at a higher school at an academy in moscow they

explained to us why the soviet special services stopped murders in the 1960s disguised as suicide in europe, the solution turned out to be very simple. there are three absolute human values : life, freedom and property. the third one is always the same. cadets and students say that they already do, and that's why if a person is killed, there is no way to stage a perfect suicide. the police doesn't matter which one is spanish, french, british and looks, but there is a will , there is no will. everything is murder, and nothing else

is needed. if a person disrespected the property component, then he died not of his own free will, this is the difference between the rubicon of the mature adult peoples and whose society you can uh, well, you will be fooled by any idea of ​​managing infantiles, we will insure such children very easily if you give them some bright picture . the main thing is that the picture is simple, bright , highly emotional, and they run to karl the dense jung, the founder of analytical psychology, there is such a phrase 10 000 nobel laureates in a crowd will behave exactly like 10,000 years in a collective in a crowd individual level of intelligence and development of meaning is no longer switched on

collective archetypes switched on collective the behavior of a person is covered by a specific emotional state and everything, and we already have a particle in front of us, the more of these particles, the bigger a person spends in demonstrations, in rallies, in some general such gatherings, the more glamorous glamorous music sounds, the more bright flags of everything other, the more we gradually lower it in the age plan, and in the end a child appears in front of us , and he is 3-5 years old. no passport we have no money we don't have any

responsibility, we are just happy there is someone who has all this. you know things as students. and even me, the main thing is to be obeyed. the main thing is that mom and dad love, and in order for mom and dad to love, you need to do a simple thing, fulfill their incomprehensible and you don't need to understand why the child should understand that there, for example, you have to sleep during the day or you can't eat only sweets and sometimes you have to eat soup, just do what mom and dad say and you'll be happy, that's why special services don't work here, state machines, state mechanisms work here, and you need a very large to go through the evolution of society, to bump your forehead against the rake and then it is possible again far away it is not necessarily possible

that understanding is me and as a question i need it and why do i need it, that is the stupidest question in life, and i will always tell students and cadets the stupidest questions why is the most important question why so when we reformat any question, why and why, a lot of things fall into place for literally two minutes, but i want mr. dmytro to react because i see that mr. dmytro somewhere disagreed with one of mr. oleksandr’s theses or not. did it seem to me uh, no, really, regarding infantilism with my colleague. i am in complete solidarity. i am just not in solidarity with the fact that i, well, i did not take such a deep part in the revolution of dignity. but i still visited the maidan and there were also a lot of bright flags, a lot

such events that you can comment on, such as these influences , which i told my colleagues just that, but still , then the idea of ​​independence, the idea that corrupt officials should be removed from power, it was an accepted idea and it was not infantilism eh , that is, for the russians, this is probably the case now, and for of ukrainians on the independence square this was the hard truth, this is the only thing i have to say against what my colleague said, and i am in solidarity with him in the rest, you know, now i see in the comments people are writing and saying that france has woken up, germany is the next, the next conspiracy theory, protests in france listen, the person did not stop at the request of the police, the police opened fire, the person died . it was a teenager. well, i understand from the countries of north africa that this is a tragedy, so what, listen, this is a protest against what

the police did, people are smashing a shoe store with their feet expensive branded shoes in strasbourg and they take out shoes. why are there protests against what happened to this teenager there ? was it a young man who was killed? that's why it's just mass protests that started. i'm eating my mistakes in france. but again, now what's the conspiracy theory? what is happening, let's wake up, why should germany wake up? germany has one of the highest gdps in europe. it is probably the highest. do people even get a salary? why should germany wake up? there are many migrants, they are not satisfied with everything. well, that is another question. but again, these proks should all wake up, capital russians, why did i wake up in them, there are no toilets on the street, they don't have uh , uh, 300,000 killed in the war, uh, they were unjustly unleashed by putin, so there's no need to dream about it but, again, well you can already see that such a theory appears here, just give me something, please, don't forget about it, because they put a developed book on the psychology of the crowd , stalin's table book. besides, lenin's and what is happening in france and germany is

a classic communist model when lubanized, uh, garbage, you have to call things your own, let's pass by, they have never studied, and they will not study, they will never work, you will never make them work, this one, this one, uh, well, distilled , that's what you said, that's what the appearance is absolutely uniform and it is pumped in real and there are no conspiracy theories when they are paid from two to five thousand dollars. by the way, through the structures of the moscow patriarchate and what structures are affiliated with it in the catholic church went to specific cities of specific countries and special funds that accumulate them. you mean so so heads so that they sit

so that there is a specific number there, tens of hundreds of thousands in a specific place, then they are set on fire and so on. of the next program , i am sure that you we invite you to definitely talk because we didn't have time to talk about everything , but thank you very much for joining dmytro popov, candidate of psychological sciences , ex-employee of the security service of ukraine was from we are in touch with oleksandr zavankokova, associate professor of the department of psychology of the kyiv national university, and we talked about conspiracy, i think that we will continue this topic, we again did not have time to talk about everything maslybun psychology take it and read it you will like it very much and once again remember one simple the thing is, when they call you and ask you to name three numbers of your card, it is not true. the question why, always ask yourself the question why, and maybe life will turn around for you in a slightly different real

way. it was a worldview program, their name is not vasyl, winter, congratulations, well , the russians have not been able to come to their senses for the second week after this prigozhina institution , they continue to tell and the more they tell all the interesting things, the more the more they try to scare the russian public, the more they actually talk about the essence of what is generally happening in russia, for example , they interestingly told solovyov about what happens in a city when there is too long the russian army is standing there, what could have happened in literally a day if all this had not ended, you can imagine what is coming out, and people with weapons are now

not even fools . who organized looting because they went to the private sector literally looting looting hide houses further open apartments open stores all this was a reality these are such small consequences even compared to the fact that the m4 road supplies to the fronts were blocked, supplies to the fronts were blocked, you don't get on a plane, you don't fly there, and how long would it take for the projectile famine to which we were returning so much, a beautiful one, could come in the course of a few days, well, it feels like a person, you know, just with knowledge of the matter he tells what the russian army did in the occupied ukrainian cities

, starting from donetsk, luhansk, where looting dominated it, in principle, it continues and ends with all the others that they managed to capture there. he tells, well, what is possible, it would also be useful for rostov well, meanwhile, all the versions are already side twists well, now the main version about the fact that it is literally the beauty and only one beauty who is to blame for everything, a week later after this figuratively speaking of a protracted jump, where is the parachute how it turned out to be revealed at the last moment how strange some even think that prigozhina's trip to moscow was staged mall for something, such a theater was needed but no , let's go to the real thing and what happened factors of the real state and human treachery in the beauty of us, the roof was covered by big money, cleansing, always free will that arose a long time ago, modern operations in syria, africa, and strengthened after taking a solider and artemovsk, it seemed to him that he

could oppose himself and the ministry of defense to the state and the president personally , the history of russia is full of examples of when heroes of the front severely punished for committed crimes for treason, but this is clearly not an example of when they were literally punished for some kind of something because they were sent to belarus, well, it’s probably not such a direct punishment. and to send to belarus with those billions that russian propagandists are also constantly talking about. now, again, for the last few days, they are telling that prigozhin has more than 800 billion billion, 800 billion. that is, there are almost trillions of people there. somewhere, she received money from the ministry of defense for her various companies. and with this money, he will successfully go somewhere there , rest there or in belarus, or wherever he can , take, as they say now

, belarusian er belarusian citizenship belarusian passport, that is, everything is a question. and where is it, if it is such a punishment? well, in principle, everyone probably agreed with this, which does not prevent russian propaganda from talking about the fact that he does not have any merits, now before russia , the question remains, if there are no merits before russia, then why did they give billions to this question? russian propaganda does not give an answer . but it is interesting to see how now those who were very supportive of solovyov changed their shoes in the flight. chvk wagner and who is personally his friend, a great handsome man with whom they even made commercials on solovyov's vse well program on tv channels bakhmut again artemsk because the heroic

feat of the commanders and fighters of the man ivanger was supported by the troops of the red army, which provided both fire contacts and cover on the flanks of the real to that что нагодневное the operation to repaint the nazi troops has been successfully completed, sign up for chukova, you will learn men's work and meet everything with dignity. half a year and completely different, now solovyov is speaking not only he, but literally the entire russian propaganda together with him i would take ukraine in one, yes, i would probably take ukraine in one, the truth is that bakhmut took 200 seconds and would take all of ukraine in a day now nobody

who knows who's so handsome, well, that's me. i don't understand our president, who has been dating for ten years. they told that all the heroic ones are no longer recognized in them, i will tell you more, even bakhmut - it is possible that it was not even worth capturing him, but as it turned out in the last few days, the pr was put on a wide foot, many people got the impression that wagner herself is effective on the front , what is there in russia, do not beg the beggars, fell asleep, but it is worth remembering that the almost half-million city of mariupol, with all the underground factory levels, that was defended by highly motivated, well-trained armed

fighters of azov, was to be taken by units the ministry of defense in 7 months, a few days, and artemovsk with an initial population of 10 times less wagner stormed for 225 days, there is a difference, that is, pr - this is one thing, and reality is another about the created myth of maximum efficiency, private military companies wagner, mariupol, one of the most important centers of ukrainian metallurgy and a large the sea port and not the most important from the point of view of the entire front, artemovsk, dude wagner, they took 224 days, why did we bring all these data , unconditionally, we do not beg anyone in any way for the feat of the soldiers, dude wagner, we just wanted to the picture of what was happening was always objective and not biased well, you watched two different state tv channels, the first tv channel and russia-1, on one kiselyov told this comparison, uh, on the first one, they told all this in pictures and more vividly, but the text is literally one in one, that is, that's all

this is pr as it turned out and apparently no one needs that bakhmut at all, we will pass it back . it should be understood that way in general. this is all said, since he is not needed. and it was in vain that he was taken by pvk wagner, but it is interesting that there was no issue kiselyov, not in other cases, you may remember that last week he announced that there would be such a story about customs and traditions in the wagner pvk, so there was no such story, but kiselyov was going to tell about how they fight and humiliate soldiers in this same military command center, but probably within a week even the russian propagandists either guessed themselves or someone told them that there is such a situation throughout the russian army that servicemen are killed and humiliated, so if you start talking about it as an incident in the wagner command center, then all the others can notice and

also start telling about it, so we decided not to tell about it. so, unfortunately for this literally beautiful plot, we will never see it. it would be interesting , of course. it was not necessary to take and in general they took not so not those and not then then in general on the front also now they have questions there and this is also a very such a topic that well, i would say uh for russian propaganda now it is painful and so dangerous in places what is it with us now the situation at the front well, the situation at our front has been more difficult lately, the more difficult is the fact that the enemy is trying to practically test our defensive ability along the entire line of contact, that everything is somehow going very hard, and

as it turned out, although no one said about it before, they even took some the first positions of the russian army, the ukrainian troops, the line means, that's what the zaporizhia direction is, these are the advanced posts, the units have come under their control, the part of us is being taken out of some units, but to the first line, they have reached me the orders of the sections reached reached the first line in the direction of zaporizhzhia, we have a hundred meters and kilometers , what kind of distance, that is, they cut it, sabotage, in the sense of no, yes, they cut it, how much, no, it is somewhere in the kilometer, even less , they have an order of kilometers, they still need to reach the nearest one. the roads are even more kilometers, the following is understood there, even a deepening of 10-15 km is not critical

. well, there is a kilometer to the road, but even if it is 10-15 km, there is nothing terrible in the end. shows that things are somehow very, very uncertain and somehow you know, you have to prepare morally for the fact that these things are very, very uncertain and the same uncertain things happened there in the situation with the antoniv bridge, eh, for two days, russian propaganda was very happy that they struck somewhere there and knocked it out with a gunner . one span in this bridge of saboteurs on our shore under the antonovsky bridge in the kherson region, there is no more execution of the order , gunner strikes on the cannon and military trickery helped . that night, the russian forces destroyed militants who were hiding under the antonovsky bridge, according to reports, the dnipro military group conducted a sudden attack at night. the force approached from the river in boats . in this way, the territory on the left bank of the bridge