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caring people in the evening, with the most professional knowledge, yes, it is true , skills are practiced here that will allow soldiers to survive in battle and defeat the enemy. but in order for the defenders to feel more confident on the front line, constant planned training is required under the strict supervision of already experienced instructors. infantrymen and mortars work side by side , working out various scenarios involving armored vehicles. the military daily tests its own nervous system by lying down , for example, under a tank in view of the fact that that this process is truly relentless, because such training takes place almost every day, it is not that there is a one-time action, so i hope that as many fighters as possible will be trained already

in the near future yes, you are absolutely correct in saying that some units have already trained nine to ten times and this process is relentless, it is happening, i am all right , i wish you a good day thank you i wish you a good day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes for developing an additional set of skills and skills, warriors skillfully perform various types of tasks from commanders in the conditions of emitted urban development, carry out territory clearing and counter enemy ambushes, if you think that war is a matter for young people, as they often say and you can often hear such a thesis. it’s probably not. although you are really young in spirit and physically too , because you participate in these trainings at the same level, and where do you get your strength and energy? well, as they say, women win as much as they look outside, and men as much as they feel inside. i myself, physical training is normal for me we had combat experience yes donbas a-a can you actually teach something well, let's say so the successors of the younger generation here is why to teach at such a training ground, well

, the main thing is that we teach because uh, i wasn't afraid of what i believed in victory, well, psychological preparation is studied in the most similar similar conditions, namely, when there is shooting, er, er, with real bullets, shooting from an automatic machine with large-caliber machine guns. well, simply, the sensations are overflowing, and this is the maximum approximation of the conditions. these are such brave warriors in a certain way , protecting our state, today we have a project called 4 5:0. everything is calm, the force work is actually the fact that training is taking place in the rear, it is really being shown 101% for sure, and this is quite such guys are acquiring here, he is sure

yes, yes, it’s absolutely fine, and it’s always necessary to prepare for such a training plan, because there on the front lines, they are very helpful to the military with experience . for that in the kyiv region in particular , these are the special conditions that maximally reflect the situation at the front, the situation , let's say, in the east under bakhmut. so this is project 4:0. everything is calm when in the rear. everything is calm. when all the military are preparing in the rear and preparing others on the front, our enemy will believe me, what can we expect from the russians regarding the situation ? is he ready to visit ukraine, will there be a breakthrough in ukraine

's israeli relations, is the nuclear club capable of becoming a peace club, reprimand factors, why the newly elected president of turkey prefers to help putin give us we need weapons , you will speed up the pace, this is ukraine , welcome to the world well, as usual at this time, at the beginning of the day, the quote looks like this. did you think that ukraine is so simple, ukraine is super ukraine - this is an exclusive. she has passed through all the rinks of history. she has tested all kinds of tests. she has been hardened to the highest degree in the conditions of the modern world. she has no price . the words belong to lina kostenko, a ukrainian poetess of the sixties and a dissident writer. what is happening lately makes me think that lately in ukraine i mean make me think that in the end, unfortunately, there are

a lot of trials, just like in the past. it is the same today but after that there really will be no price for ukraine, we start with the topic that is on everyone's lips: the threat of a terrorist attack at the nuclear power station, currently no explosions have been recorded at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, according to the data of the ukrainian hydrometeorological center , the radiation background on the territory of ukraine is within normal limits, the water level in the pond , the cooler of the nuclear power plant is stable it is , in particular, 16 1/2 m. this was reported in the energy times, despite the explosion by the customers of the kakhovskaya hpp dam, the situation remains under control, at the same time, the occupiers are preparing a provocation on the territory in the near future of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant this was reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine on the outer roof of the third and fourth power units with foreign objects similar to explosive devices placed

. their detonation should not damage the power units but may create a picture of shelling from ukraine. rosatom accused the campaign of allegedly preparing a terrorist attack at the station, which russian terrorists themselves had occupied on march 4 last year in the armed forces of ukraine emphasized that they do not violate the norm of international humanitarian law, they monitor the situation and are ready to act under any conditions, no provocation by the enemy will pass, the general staff assured, and i will also add that the international community must react to the terrorist attack on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which russia may resort to, he emphasized on this, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi in his evening video message, now from our intelligence we have information that on the roof of several power units of the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, the russian military placed the objects are similar to explosives, it is possible to simulate an attack on the plant, maybe they have some other scenarios, but in any case, the world

sees and cannot help but see that the only source of danger for the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is russia itself and no one else heard the president 's statement volodymyr zelenskyi and we already have with us in connection with our studio oleksiy tolkochovyk from the head of the public council of the state inspection of nuclear regulatory oleksiy i welcome you at this time. good night . thank you for joining me at such a late hour. i would immediately like to quote the words of the spokeswoman of the white house, corinne john pierre, she noted that when it comes to the nuclear plant , no hostilities should take place around it , somehow it sounds like it is in a new way. yes, but i will remind you that the plant has been under occupation for more than a year i will remind you that there were statements by many leaders of many countries on different continents , we will not even list them, but in the end the situation remains very difficult and is getting worse, we will probably say so in

view of what was happening in the media field for the past two days, how do you perceive this information for yourself, this is fake news, this is incitement, is it a real threat, this situation around the zaporozhye nuclear power plant is perceived more as incitement , but it is not an incitement necessary for the international community to closely watch every step of the every movement of russian terrorists around this nuclear facility, the more at the moment ukraine made a fuss in the world, the more and higher the prerequisites that russia will not resort to any provocative or terrorist actions at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. and i once wrote a message on facebook, it turned out to be so soothing, first of all, for ukrainians because we are already very traumatized by the chernobyl disaster, and in the end, any explosion at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was subconsciously

associated by ukrainians with full-scale chernobyl disaster on a planetary scale i tried to convey that the reactors are fundamentally different at the zaporozhye chernobyl nuclear power plant , as are hardly even the most repulsive actions the russians at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will be able to lead to such severe consequences as happened at chernobyl , but in my opinion, the russians will provoke and will stage an explosion at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in order to blame the ukrainian side that night, it was the russians who spread the information that ukraine kyiv will launch a missile strike with point u missiles on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, i will say for myself that it is unlikely that such a missile would lead to a radiation

accident in russia, that is, even a strike on the reactor the installation of such a missile will not lead to a nuclear explosion, but the picture can be very sad. it is probably precisely to stage such a missile-like strike that the russians placed on the roof of the third and fourth power units something similar to explosions in order to then blame that country and kyiv that we are the terrorists. let 's immediately clarify the nuclear power plant. well , let's remember the story with the explosion of the kakhov hessian satellites. in principle, everything is clearly visible, whether there was an arrival there or whether there was an explosion directly on the spot. the same this also applies to the station. all the more so when there are already workers at the kakhovka hpp and when the world has concentrated its attention on different sides of the ocean in europe and in asia and in africa and in the united states of america on this problematic issue, is it really russian and it is not stop i very often in my interviews emphasize that the russians conduct both war and information

propaganda, focusing not on the world community, but on their internal information consumers, the russians, and so the russian authorities , the kremlin, need a picture in order to to rally russians in the future, to support putin's putin rating and to show that it seems that ukrainians are such non-human animals, what missiles do not hit nuclear power plants , the civilized world certainly understands everything , but we see that it is difficult to get weapons from the civilized world more often, we receive deep concern, i would like to point out how you they correctly said from the kakhovka hydroelectric power station that such objects are extremely difficult to destroy from the outside, they can be destroyed from the inside, and the russians have every reason for that, but even if the russians lay a lot explosives at the nuclear power plant, the reactor compartment is very damaged, the rectors of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, unlike the chernobyl station, are covered

with a hermetic a-a confiment, the container is variously called a hermetic concrete shell made of stressed reinforced concrete, it is very difficult to damage it. and actually this shell was intended for localization some kind of accident with a reactor plant inside, personally , i am afraid that undermining cooling systems can create emergency situations at a nuclear power plant under these conditions, the russians are unlikely to allow operators to localize this accident in the event of a retreat from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the russians themselves can arrange such a man-made disaster for which they will then try to blame the ukrainian troops who are liberating the territory of oleksiy immediately following your words, pushing back on the cooling of the pond and diver, well , look, instead of 750 kw, 330 is what i mean by disconnecting the station from the main

power supply unit. yes, and to the reserve one first, is there this problem is really is this capacity enough secondly if you are still well doing another goodwill gesture they will try to do as much damage as possible what they can do at this station in relation to the power line it's hard for me to comment it's been a long time since i was it is related to the state inspection of nuclear regulation, to what extent are all the protocols and safety systems of nuclear power plants configured for its recovery. it is difficult for me to comment on what is not immutable, this is the design itself nuclear power plant and what the russians can maximally a-a damage and spoil in my opinion a-a with a very high probability that the retreating russians will try to spoil the zaporizhia nuclear power plant because

leaving the largest nuclear power plant in europe free and working for an independent ukraine is not exactly the handwriting of the russians, the entire behavior of the russians - this is the behavior of terrorists, pests, to come to play around and then leave, having damaged what can be damaged at a nuclear power plant if you even plant explosives inside hermetically sealed shell will be catastrophically damaged, the radioactive first circuit of cooling, repair, restore the internal systems in conditions of radiation pollution, well, in my opinion, it will be either extremely difficult or practically impossible, so ukraine will not be able to operate the reactors in the future, all the concerns about the cooling level of the detonation tank will give the coolant tank may lead to the fact that the reactors will begin to overheat without the flow

of coolant, this will eventually lead to the melting of the reactor core i i doubt that in these conditions the radiation will go beyond the hermetic envelope, but it will be impossible to restore the reactors because they can also blow up, they can destroy e-e turbine installations, engine rooms in these conditions of restoration, even under the condition of the integrity of the reactor installation , it will be possible to restore the operation of the nuclear power plant or extremely expensive or impossible at all, mr. oleksi , thank you for the clarification, you started with your rather optimistic post. well, you mentioned it. yes, and an explanation of what is fundamentally wrong everything can happen and how can it be scary, let's hope that in principle nothing will happen with the as and the international community and ukraine will make it possible for this oleksiy tolkochovyk from the head of the public council

of the state inspection of nuclear regulation we have one more topic, but until the next guest and let's talk further about this, the ambassador of ukraine in israel, gen. korniychuk, criticizes the actions of the israeli government regarding the rather weak aid to ukraine , or rather its lack, well, it had a lot of promises, i will remind you that the same thing is happening now under the prime ministership beniminal tanyago meanwhile, the ministry of foreign affairs of israel, dissatisfied with the statements sent to ukraine, through which it seemed to accuse the country's leadership of a clear pro-russian position due to repeated statements against the policy of israel, ukrainian ambassador yevhen korniychuk was summoned for clarification to the ministry of foreign affairs of israel , adding that the ambassador's actions are not considered useful, the ministry of foreign affairs emphasizes israel, our country is helping ukraine in the fight against the russian federation, or maybe they told the department. i will also remind you that from the very beginning, israel really helped

ukraine in the humanitarian direction, but we the previous government has repeatedly asked for weapons, because israel is not offensive in the vanguard of weapons, namely defense, sometimes israel, in the vanguard of modern military technologies, possesses almost all modern types of weapons. it is quite clear that such a passive position of reluctance to provide weapons is connected precisely with the fears of the israeli leadership that their relations with russia , in particular with putin, from which would nina antoniogo by the way, they were quite close like that, well , they probably remain like that they may deteriorate significantly due to active assistance this will lead to a deterioration of the general diplomatic background for ukraine, and therefore russia will help more. well, early on, probably, in countering the same, israel will be more aggressive, in particular in syria, where the russians have air defense systems and combat aviation, and from where, by the way , they are constantly shelling iranian radical groups it is israel, while the ref and israel have fairly equal relations in syria, they do not touch each other, which allows the israeli army to strike at the military facilities of iran or

radical groups in this country, but the situation may change, the israel defense forces considers the syrian state responsible for all actions that take place on its territory and will not allow any attempts to violate israel's sovereignty. indeed, historically , many enemies of palestine in syria, in lebanon, in cancer and in the ordania, where the aetolists , dehamaz, where the military wings and sponsoring tigran as an islamic jihadist and all of them in one way or another can be supported by russia, well , directly or indirectly, or are already supported , perhaps unofficially, for these same reasons. hardly are we getting the iron dome system? by the way, what is also in the field of information and in the discourse in recent days, because the prime minister is once again not cheaply afraid that the anti-missile system can somehow get from ukraine. true logic is strange, it is already talking about placing the dome in deep hidden locations

ukraine israel will not agree to the transfer to ukraine of the iron dome air defense system, developed jointly with the usa , because it is afraid that it can get into the hands and wound and be used against israel itself. relations, the current prime minister minne tenyagu has never visited ukraine for 16, well, 17 months. he has not visited ukraine, like his predecessor lapid . however, recently there was a contact between our city's defense minister oleksiy reznikov and the minister of defense of israel galant. we discussed the current situation on the ground and the prospects of the project and protection of ukrainians from threats from the air iranian drones pose a security threat to both our countries we are counting on israel's help in countering this well, probably on that and that's all, although you know no

, that's not all, the prime minister is on that, i'm his is considering a visit to ukraine this issue was currently being considered in the knesset committee, the head of the israeli foreign ministry, lee koin, noted that on june 26, the prime minister of israel, lyubimnyi tanyagu , positively considered a visit to kyiv. what this will change in the current situation is difficult to predict, given what we have been emphasizing so far well, we didn't get anything significant from israel in the context of armaments, on the other hand, relations with the dictatorial regime of putin are only being cemented, because since the beginning of the 23rd year, there have been a lot of agreements between the government contacts of the russian federation and israel the construction of a new diplomatic mission of the russian federation in jerusalem with the free allocation of a plot of land. - much more, the director of the center of middle eastern studies is already with us in this, ihor ihor

, i welcome you, we often discuss the issue of aid from different countries and in the context weapons, and we often mention israel, which really cooperates with the united states of america . they have a considerable arsenal, but they still have a visa, and nowadays there is a lot of information, just pressuring them about a possible visit or contacts at the level of the ministry of defense. what do you think? in general, can there even be any moves in this direction? well, you know after yagu's words about the railway dome that you have already quoted , i will not repeat myself. i simply do not see a subject for conversation and you understand just come and show washington about us on the right side of history well, this is not enough, this is not enough in order to do something like that in order to actually come

, and it seems to me that as of now, it is unlikely that such a visit is ready and can be implemented, and moreover, the purpose is completely unclear then of this visit. that is, we perfectly understand that simply coming to ukraine, well, it is not worth it here . well, let's also remember that israel will not be under sanctions , for example, with respect to the russian federation, while the rest of the civilized world was doing it. israel, on the contrary, is increasing trade with russia by the federation, that is, here it is not even about helping ukraine, but here it is about the lack of condemnation of russia's aggressive actions towards ukraine, and this is when israel has been suffering from its neighbor for almost the entire time of its existence as a state, you know the problem here is basic because uh, if we suppose that israel is one of the many middle eastern countries

that also did not join the sanctions, which also have rather close economic relations with russia, whose leaders quite successfully visit the kremlin and the like, then we just have to say that yes israel is a close eastern country, and as they say, this question should not be raised. if israel itself claims that it is part of the western world, that it has the same values ​​as the western world, then the question arises whether it is true. it seems to me that the israelis themselves, frankly speaking, should answer this question, well, at least this is equality , some more clarifications on this topic, and this is uh. the political forces brought those or that to the majority of the population of israel. well, to be honest, the majority

of the population of israel is indifferent, they are preoccupied with their problems, their security, and they are very offended by everyone else who does not support them in the confrontation, and accordingly , accordingly, they do not have no one to support, i.e. a minority, a minority, but an active minority supports ukraine, these are people who a-a have a certain connection with ukraine, this is an exit from ukraine, these are people who have a-a ukrainian identity, people who a-a are opposed to the dictatorship, in general, the political policy in israel has developed in a very strange way, because i will not say 100 percent here, but our observations give me reason to say that ukraine is mostly supported by the liberals and the left-liberal parties in israel then as right

liberal parties, unfortunately, do not support the games, stay with us , we have a few more there for you in exchange for allegedly placing nuclear weapons of the russian federation on the territory of belarus , poland offers its territory to the usa for similar actions to place nuclear weapons poland offered by the way, already twice taking into account the actions of the russian federation and its position , our country is not opposed to joining the program of nuclear deterrence, nuclear sharing, among other countries, but everything somehow resembles another such caribbean or berlin crisis of the next century . conducted its first nuclear test back in the 98th year of the last century, now, according to approximate estimates, has up to 160 nuclear warheads plus or minus as its neighbor pakistan, that is why india is further than mutual exchanges of fire

these countries did not enter from conventional weapons. well, that is why, even with territorial claims to each other. it is because of this that its presence was a weapon of deterrence, rather than firing cannons, let's say, mortars . they don't go through kashmir. the head of the diplomatic mission to express his concern for the reasons for the statement of the us president jubaydne and the prime minister who called on pakistan to prevent aggression in order to seize new territories official slova-bat called the statement contrary to diplomatic norms. the us should refrain from statements that can be interpreted as encouraging unsubstantiated and politically motivated narratives of india against pakistan . it is not about claims and misunderstandings, but about ways to resolve them and the fact that the use of conventional weapons when diplomacy does not work let's assume that nuclear is definitely not a nuclear weapon, a weapon of deterrence, we remind you and here it is worth emphasizing every time that the countries that are part of

the nuclear club do not just have to threaten each other and more in pacifying other owners of nuclear arsenals from the threat of aggression against other countries and their sovereignty . more or less adequately, in principle , they have it, they respond to some threats. but for some reason, this does not apply to the story with the russian federation. my question today is that there is a country, a specific country or a group of countries from the nuclear club, which, after all, they could force, i'm sorry, but this monkey with a grenade to put this grenade aside, there are some instruments of pressure and deterrence for today, in addition to simply loud statements of some kind , well, the only instrument of deterrence is, er, understanding

by the russians that in the event of the use of an atomic bomb, a nuclear weapon, a response will be struck. this is the only deterrence that will work, all the rest will not work. actually, you absolutely , absolutely correctly said that this is a weapon of deterrence, that is, without impunity in this in the sense, it only inflames the desire to use these weapons and makes it possible to blackmail the whole world, and today's statement by medvedev is a testimony to that. yes, but will the countries be hegemons ? let me directly ask the following question : in the event of a detonation, for example, of a nuclear power plant as an option in the event of a tactical strike