[000:00:00;00] he writes, we left the tick, it’s a joke . and right away, yura opens up from afar, who also starts talking about something. he speaks. 56 pm понадлы что вы себя да кличе и наша ошибся well, only for these 5 hours, all the khokhly channels were happily dispersing kak so ssylkoy , moreover, westerners were also happy to disperse ssylky что всё российские войска, bye bye , all those that support the internal turmoil

также как и тем колитей i'm happy to post , i don't know what happened to boris, i respect the guy , he's a great guy. it's so important, here's getting into kyiv and here's the stories to the enemies, it's clear if you look at another plot, which actually tells a very tearful story about this makeivka, the most terrible blow of the statement today. rszoohaimes the tidal wave was so strong that glass was knocked out in the neighboring houses from denmark hospital number two, partially destructive, schools and a kindergarten were damaged, at the moment it is known that one person died , the number of people who suffered during the shelling of makeevka by the nazis increased to forty people ukrainian propaganda claims that in makeevka there was porozhon military objects of the russian army

zapredelnoy cenism because what is going down there is this all this explosion is like this uh-uh according to their version this is getting to the hospital in reality of course no. and it happened for the first time in minutes. it is clear. when from the place of this very birch ruzhin, whom solovyov mentioned, he wrote such a beautiful post where he simply, well, directly said that there were strikes on donetsk makiivka on the evening of the fourth of june, and there, most likely, there was a warehouse of ammunition and fuel and lubricants. materials, that's how it is in principle, but this whole beautiful history just launched some kind of gigantic investigation with screams and screams, how is it, what is it that they said

, let's also see menya bolshe viso i was outraged at all for two days, not a mite of ticks, it’s so unpleasant , very unpleasant, but the story of the mass publication of photos from makeevka and donetsk. yes, after the ukrainian strikes. well , what are you doing? yes pagans, why are you so stupid that you don’t understand that you are informing the enemy about the effectiveness of his attack, eh, things like that, why am i showing you all this, eh, i want to talk to you today, not only me, but also i want you to join me oksana moroz is the founder

initiatives, how to become a vegetable, let's know, let's talk about that. so, how do you generally treat all these conversations, what are there, what are we waiting for, you know, news from the battlefield, and there are people who really like to watch them there, suddenly there , russian soldiers will tell something like the truth. well, i think you know, this is a very dubious story because, well, first of all, here is the whole story, when some people say that we took it, others did not take it, very often it is their internal fight , which they spill out like this, and on the other hand, look, that is, everything that they they speak in fact, well, this is the impression that they have opened their mouths, they have already told a lie, and i believe that there should be some basics of information science, how in general to respond to any events that the enemy is talking about and that the enemy is trying to voice in one way or another in telegram channels, and somewhere else what for

of our people may be available oksano, how do you feel about this? greetings, mrs. olga. greetings, viewers, ah, here, it is necessary for everyone to first understand very basic things, we, it seems to me that many ukrainians perceive russian sources, is this warmonger is of a different kind and supposedly insider sources and supposedly liberal sources and so on as a certain source of information among which it is possible to smooth out some real information that is happening in russia because everyone is interested in it, at least we can see from the same statistics that every fourth ukrainian watches some russian channel or reads information from it, and here is this myth that there is information there, and it encourages people to go there, especially when there is a vacuum of information from the ukrainian side, and it is now because the armed forces have adopted a strategy of not disclosing information about actions at the front, it is absolutely fair that they do not deal with this. this is how people

begin to fill this vacuum of information with what this information is and the enemy rubs his hands here and says we prepared it for you and prepared very different types well, so that for everyone, everyone would find what they needed, someone would go listen to gorkin and be happy because he talks deliciously about the defeats of the russian army or there are certain miscalculations of the russian army and so on next, someone will listen to solovyov and think that if you just turn him upside down, then it will be true. channels, it definitely works. for certain categories of those who believe in putin, those who doubt , those who hate the west for ukrainians, and so on, it’s just the same information, it will be wrapped in different ways . here’s the cake.

sources, including anonymous ones, because there are entire networks of anonymous telegram channels or other resources that are russian, from there we consume the information that we have to get now as part of the information operations of the enemy. unfortunately, there are no exceptions. if there is some very rare exception like that that someone refused and told the truth, that's not the case, that's an exception, plus you absolutely rightly said that to such a united front, military wars with ukraine are added to them internally , their interpersonal wars on these are undoubtedly we saw it on an example, it is agreed and we hope that there will be more of them, and this also introduces certain certain points, but it is not about the fact that the truth will leak out because of this . what we see is very interesting, there is distortion , manipulation, and so on, and for a simple person who is not communicative, she simply receives concentrates of disinformation, so the sooner a person understands this, the sooner he will be less

processed by russian propaganda. and how in general, our citizens should treat the fact that well, there is little information, as they say, little information comes from the battlefield , i would like to know in more detail, i would like to know something there, literally, how they are advancing, well, it is unnerving to a certain extent, but well, really go to these sources russian well, as if not an option, but what option should there be in this case , as an option, ask yourself the question why do you need this information, what will you do with it, because if you want to help the armed forces, you do not need this information for the armed forces help is always needed, and the more the better. each of us knows about this. what is this information for? you are worried about your relatives. you will receive information directly from them. they can tell you what they see in their area of ​​the front, because they see with their own eyes and what else do you want to get? for what? for self-reassurance, this is not information for self-reassurance

. you will get in any case some very , very small fragment of subjective information from a person who shares this because people who are in the military e-e in tick ​​tock or in other sources they tell something on camera, and in the best case it is really ukrainian military because we have to understand that now there are many disguised russians here in military uniform who say something in order to manipulate us but if we simulate the situation that this is really a ukrainian military man he tells us something. he again tells his subjective assessment of what he saw. it does not correlate in any way with what is really happening at the front because he is a long man who saw small fragments and told her emotions, it is absolutely impossible not to say something there, if under bahmut , she is similar to zaporizhzhia, and so on . that is, you will receive a drop of information, he objectively does not know what to do, and this information, depending on it, will be more optimistic or more

it is pessimistic, it just disorients you, ah. exactly what the general staff gives is very dry information , which is definitely not enough for us, we would like more, but it is the information that will not harm , that will not be able to orientate, and that will help to orientate it. where are you going, we are in the best place let's go we are recapturing the territory, why are we going to stop somewhere? i have such a concept, the fog of war , which each of us will probably propose a large-scale invasion for this hire. we have heard more than once that it really exists during every war. and really behind it. we do not see many things that civilians do not need . to see if there was something that the civilians needed, the general staff or others told us, and here it is very important that ukrainians who have not trusted the government as an institution for years, we have seen it and we can see from many studies that they are now starting this distrust extrapolate to why do they trust everything else, that is, on the one hand, we see such a paradoxical situation that, on the one hand, ukrainians trust the armed forces, on the other hand, all the information that the armed forces provide, but they try to somehow expand

it, add some kind of conspiracy theory, etc. it does not lead to anything good , especially when it spills out into the information field, because the enemy is just waiting for this, in general , this is such a vacuum of information, it is, well, an optimal breeding ground for spreading various rumors, what is the enemy doing now? unfortunately, some of them, for example, are related to the same 47th mogura brigade. they have some success. that is not why you need to always answer the question clearly. why do you need this information? and what are you going to do with it ? hmm, is there a possibility of a civilian well, because people often say that i need it, because maybe i will be able to see something there that they did not see on the battlefield , is it really possible to help civilians, well , help with what is happening on the battlefield but knowing this information and not every military person can draw conclusions even with a small piece of information

on the front. because military science is a science, you need to study, you need to have practice, you need to have knowledge, and so on, and if a person is a civilian, if a person has not fought , then even if and fought, but it does not have relevant complex information from various sources, well, that is, relatively speaking, you need to know what the intelligence thinks, what the intelligence is, the various lineages, what they are doing, what the plans are, and so on. well, who will tell you this complex of information there will already be a transfer of information to the enemy, this is secret information, but if they give you one tiny drop, well, let's transfer it to some other matter, conditionally saying that you are preparing some dish and they will tell you one single ingredient from this matter and they will not say and no grammar, you are nothing at all are you cooking an elephant or a sweet? well, what will you do with this one ingredient? how will you guess the dish? it will be just guessing with your finger, the sky is conventionally speaking the same with the information you will receive in fragments about the events at

the front. you can come true because you can be given pessimistic information, but in reality everything is not so bad, and you will be in a pessimistic mood because you grabbed for this information . we are currently living in a very difficult period of uncertainty . we infer certain information , this information is 90% and possibly 99% incorrect because we have nothing to draw these conclusions from and then we simply become even more disorientated, so it is easier to survive this period uncertainty than to involve yourself even more in some lies, false information and so on. well, what is the main idea of ​​what you are saying, well , get used to living in the case of uncertainty , this is a normal period, this is absolutely normal, something does not depend on you, it does not depend on you, it is absolutely true, this is very it is difficult to accept this, it is very difficult, and not to look for conspiracy theories in this, but the reality is that we

do not know this, i do not know when the war will end, no one knows when the war will end , no one knows how the counteroffensive will develop and people who have more information, they may be predicting something a little more and so on, but no one knows the final result, how do you know it ? nuclear power plant there may be a sabotage there may be an explosion and let 's just see how it unfolded, well let's take the fourth of july specifically, the day when zelensky said in the morning that well, on that day , information appeared that the russians were placing mines on the roof of the zaporizhzhia npp, and in principle it must be said that prior to this, russian propaganda from the russian side, well, it has quieted down its rhetoric a little in general around the zaporizhzhia npp , they have such a main speaker , renat karcha, who is positioned as

an adviser to the head of the -e roz e-e energy atom, that is, he sits there all the time, as if at the zaporizhzhia npp. entering foreign observers there, he is watching them himself, something tells them there, so after zelensky announced that such a thing could be. with such a statement i have received information that i, in fact, authorize you to announce on the tv of july, literally at night, in the dark of the day, the armed forces of ukraine will attempt to attack the zaporozhye nuclear power plant using high-precision long-range rockets and kamikaze drones, and at the same time , it is planned to do so. the frost of the aircraft means ammunition , which in the end is equipped

with radioactive waste transported on the third of july from the south ukrainian nuclear plant to one of the military airfields of ukraine green plan reset on radioactive things involves the use of a high-precision projectile dot-in er with my head filled with radioactive waste better this and so on all this arose after they said that the russians placed something on the roof, and what is interesting is that the russians themselves constantly disperse that nothing the observers did not notice that there were any mines there, but literally after all these statements yesterday, the same representatives of the magadap asked to let us in. they

said that we have no opportunity at all will look at what is actually on the roof and appealed to them to give them the opportunity to go up to the roofs to work and look , and of course i do not remember that there is such a statement to have such a requirement that they have, it is not known whether they fulfill it or not, but also what is interesting that all this was shown on russian tv channels in the evening on july 4th, yes. and on the morning of july 4th, the same korchavo solovyov separately talked on the air about the fact that the ukrainians can do something there, but it will not be a big explosion. in general, they are going to do it this conversation was in the morning of the same day. it is also important to understand, but it sounded a little different, and he told me some such plan, which i will tell you from my own impression of the russians, when they tell it like that, it is straight. these are always their plans , let's also see and the radiation fund is needed

, the increased radiation fund is my opinion, and for this they need to hit only a number of premises that , strictly speaking, in all probability they are supposed to do in a row of premises where radioactive materials are located, they know in what premises are these radioactive materials located in the background changes, what is possible, but we are talking about the situation, that is, if it is possible, you seem to know what you are not really listening to in advance. well, why tell all this ? just blow it up on the spot, controlling the entire station

, in fact, well, this is real. this is a real plan , yes, in order to have, as he said, for such a thing. our explanation to the ukrainians is that it is a polluted territory, because to explain why if the ukrainians are conducting a counteroffensive, ours is a polluted territory for them, and it was also very interesting such a fragment of this conversation. by the way they uh they are trying to get the background they are trying to get infected around the station naturally this infection saying that it will be depressurized in the event of strikes, and then and then they are already on this wave, and to try it will certainly

bring excitement, they do not remove it from the agenda or not, well, that is, it is essentially the same delusion that they said about the blowing up of the kakhovka hpp that it should somehow be easier for the ukrainians to advance if they blow up everything in front of them and then it will not be possible to pass there , well, absurd. here, too, infect the territory and how to advance on the infected territory. the fact that the world is quite like this somehow reacted uncertainly without wide consequences of real condemnation to the undermining of the kakhovka hpp, this plan of theirs that korchagi told about from the russian side has become more real in fact, but here the question is, well, people hear people, it scares oksana how do people respond to this threat, which i don't consider it ghostly, in fact, how should they react to all these things, and here you rightly said

that it is necessary to start with the fact that you should not consider this threat ghostly, but you can expect everything from russia, and we are always convinced of this every day, a vivid example tonight in lviv not and, accordingly, every warning that sounds all the more from three sides because it sounded from bohdanov and from zelenskyi and baidin spoke about the nuclear threat, this is a warning in order to understand your plan of action everyone must have it this is despite in any situation, everyone should read all the warnings and the recommendations of the ministry of health of other bodies and work it out for themselves, there is one plane, there is another plane of information, here you need to clearly understand eh so as not to form on the one hand inflated expectations because people want to see the truth and want to hear a clear answer. it will be so or not, here again we have to live with uncertainty, no one knows whether it will be or not, there are various scenarios and it is important for us to keep as clear

a head as possible in the information field, how to keep it, we have to to exclude these sources who are definitely making heads hot and spreading disinformation, and here we return to what we said under the contract, because these are the same anonymous russian sources who are definitely shaking up the situation and the evening of the fifth he was a vivid illustration of this, because if you use telegram, you couldn't help but see how many anonymous telegram channels published information that the sensors had already worked there, that something was already happening there, and that something would happen at four in the morning, and so on and so on, this is not informing at all, it is precisely about the admiration of disinformation, why do they do it, whether for the audience or at the behest of russia, it is already a matter for the special services, our task is not to go to such channels, not to subscribe so that they do not even blink at us editions. here is how to protect yourself as much as possible from this vector. then there are two other very important vectors: experts and pseudo-experts . as soon as some topic becomes hot in our country, so

many people start asking questions about it. and the media starts shooting stories and making materials. there are a lot of experts who start commenting on this topic, and here it is very important to understand that this is really an expert. is this the person who commented on political processes a few days ago? a nuclear threat and possibly a terrorist attack, of course, such people cannot be experts, especially in such a narrow topic as nuclear energy , so when you hear something that affects you emotionally or with which you really want to agree or, on the contrary, disagree, spend a minute of time walking this person, who is she in general is she an expert on this issue? and is it possible to listen to her here? you can't 100% ride on journalists. she can also make a mistake, knowingly or not, for various reasons. it's always better to play it safe here, if you are really an expert. you see that there is a relevant education, the person worked at a nuclear plant or somewhere else, what can he say on the topic on which you

perceive his information as another professional opinion, you must understand very well that this person is also not built, he is not two in one i.e. nuclear on nuclear nuclear security specialist or there is something else and intelligence already has all the data, ordinary specialists do not have such a thing, that is why this person simply said , based on his hypotheses, based on his competence, you cannot take it as 100%, what is happening? of course, this requires us to begin to understand the topic a little bit, to compare several versions and so on , but it is also about what our reality looks like. over the years, we have all become a little bit experts in weapons, a little bit experts in chemistry, atomic energy and so on in the electric power industry and so on. and it is a completely different matter when we are faced with some magical specialists who give us clear and unambiguous answers to not all of our questions. and when there is an

impact, what force will it be? their forecasts are very pro-optimistic because pessimism and negativity sell better in the information space, that is, people click on it more, people worry, people start watching other videos , etc. they act on us even more intimidated in an uneven place, here is the third one that went there , i don’t remember which one already. the vector that we are looking at is the external environment . how are embassies doing ? how are diplomats doing? an equally important element in the information field, we all remember on the eve of february 24, what actions they took when there was a real threat , can they make a mistake, yes they can well, for example , no one had any lectures before the kakhovskaya hpp. guarantee, but no source will give you a 100% guarantee now , well, they can only guess that it should be the same . therefore, it is also necessary to understand that when the ukrainian authorities talk about this, they are trying

to warn about it in the first place absolutely. that is de facto, we live inside a bunch of information operations and they all take place because we work with international partners , we inform them so that they also take certain actions and international partners also make their movements, russia makes its movements and so on , our own in this is simple come to terms with the fact that there are things that we cannot accurately predict, but we have to be prepared for them at least in some way. thank you very much for joining us. oksana morosi basically told us some basic things.

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