[000:00:00;00] no, this is the biggest, respectively, two expectations, which i think will also be discussed by biden, respectively, and sumnok, and what will happen . well, plus the supply of weapons, you asked, then they will definitely discuss it not only in the context of attacks, because nato is preparing the largest package of military accordingly, technical assistance for ukraine, so i think it will also be on the table of victory, we will only hope for it and wait calmly to remind our partners that there is a delay every day in this ukraine , the weapons it needs for a successful the liberation of their territories is equivalent to the daily deaths of dozens of soldiers and dozens of civilians, adults and children, please do not forget about this and make correct and quick decisions, ihor petrenko

, a political scientist, was with us. that we are currently on the way not only to the north atlantic alliance , but also to the european union, there are certain recommendations that ukraine wants to implement in order to take a seat officially among other european countries, in particular, one of the sectors is the reform of the judiciary, and president volodymyr zelenskyi decided to strengthen the responsibility for corruption in the courts. the corresponding decision of the national security and defense council is proposed to provide imprisonment for corruption offenses in the field of justice . attention from 10 to 15 years with confiscation of property also plan to strengthen the role of the institution of the jury trial and expand the cases of its application reform of the constitutional court is successful conducting judicial reform is one of the most basic requirements of the european union, and we will talk about it with denys maslovy, the head

of the verkhovna rada committee on legal policy p. mr. zelensky will strengthen the president in the courts, then the relevant decisions of the nsdc and according to your assessment, these innovations will be effective and how effective they will be, not just because of corruption in the courts. and this concerns all those who add bribes then offer those who demand bribes who offer to solve the case for money even if the money does not reach the judge there or something probably because all those who promise to solve the case to someone and for everything there take money or just promise to solve the case they are already powerful

they solve crimes and discredit this judicial system accordingly, and there can be no trust in it and even not always the judges involved here, this applies to everyone well, of course, when it comes to judges, jurors, and so on, those who take bribes are completely out of options here there should be responsibility for a particularly serious crime, and this is from 10 to 15 years with confiscation of property without options, especially now. he is mr. denisa. well, i just once gave this example in the people's republic of china, for example, even the death penalty is for corruption, and nevertheless every year, corrupt officials are executed, that is, they do not become less and less every year, that is, there are still people who go for corruption, despite the fact that for this you can receive the highest degree of punishment, but the increase is again up to 10 to 15 years in our country if even the death penalty cannot fulfill such corruption. so how simple is it to increase the punishment? there is still some set of actions, there are mechanisms to ensure transparency and

trust in the courts. and this is actually a set of actions specified in the decision of the national council security and defense and increasing criminal liability is only one of the ways that is necessary and completely sufficient , so of course this inspection of the acting judges of the supreme court for possible disciplinary violations by them systematic neglect of duty, as well as confirmation of the sources of origin of property, this is the establishment of such a mechanism that if one judge from a particular court is served with a notice of suspicion and there are grounds to believe that other judges may be involved, then by decision of the high council of justice , all judges of this court are sent for the examination, it is also the question of using a polygraph, a polygraph or a lie detector, polls with the help of a polygraph, these procedures are proposed to be implemented as a procedure for the board of judges

i.e. so that candidates for the position who become judges for the first time do not undergo this polygraph procedure and in certain procedures for acting judges, that is, it is a set of measures, moreover , there is a review of the procedures and grounds for bringing to disciplinary responsibility and what sanctions can be applied in order to it was not just a process of the process council. is there a disciplinary violation? there should be a corresponding consequence, whether it is dismissal from office or suspension from the exercise of justice , transfer to lower e-e instances of judges. there is also the need to develop a clear procedure and requirements for consideration of violations of ethical norms by members of the supreme council of justice, well, this is in the recommendations of our partners, all that is needed for the peeling of ethical norms is what. explain every member of the supreme council of justice, which we recently elected, which started working

at the beginning of the year together with our international partners . every member of the electoral council , according to the law, people have to observe ethical norms before the judge , respectively. if they do not, if they do not observe ethical norms before the court, this is violations, or should we simply establish a clear mechanism? who will check it, who will check it, and in what way it will be carried out, in addition to the fact that, as you mentioned, the issue of the constitutional court is also foreseen. there is indeed a given mandate of the government to work out, together with venice , a further strategy for the reform of the constitutional to the court of ukraine, sir, i will still ask you about these ethical standards for judges, what they mean in simple human language, what i found the judge should be an example of law-abiding

keep the oath, always behave in such a way as to strengthen the citizens' faith in honesty, independence, impartiality - is it them or is it something else with the code of the judge's scope and there establishing the whole, let's say in simple words that a judge is both a pose and a judge and from one member of the supreme council of justice must adhere to these ethical requirements not only in the courtroom and outside the courtroom. well, if a judge or a member of the supreme council of justice commits actions that violate the authority of the judicial branch of government and the status of the judge should follow accordingly. disciplinary, oh, accordingly, responsibility should be applied. you know, if there is someone drinking. drinking while driving. eating . yes, this is another responsibility. whatever, because it is necessary to understand that a judge, each judge makes a decision in the name of ukraine , a special duty is assigned to him accordingly . they should be standards, well , standards of compliance, including ethical ones

you understand the rules and you bear responsibility, including for your own behavior there in private in ordinary life , that's what standards are all about, i understood when you're a judge at work and in civilian life you're a violator violator that's right that's right because that's it authorities are formed trust of the pre-judicial branch during martial law we pay the state pays a sufficiently high level of financial support for judges even during martial law accordingly this should correlate judges now during war they vary from how many to how many for our city, depending on the judge, the level of the judge in the court of first instance - it is 30 subsistence minimums, it is somewhere between 70-2000 uah well , excluding taxes, there are fewer percentages, but here, too, it is necessary to understand that many judges openly pay extra there secretaries of the court session, who have a salary of 4.5 thousand hryvnias each. well, there is a huge

burden of buying the same cartridges , papers, and so on, that's why we know about all these problems. we have a very clear demand from the government, the president, the parliament those who want and are ready to work honestly should remain in their positions. those who are not ready to work like that should be removed from the judicial system. for those who have grounds for criminal responsibility there , those who remain and work honestly should be held accountable. those who remain and work honestly should work in normal conditions with we will continue to do all this within the framework of the president's reform within the framework of that mr. denys, the president proposed to introduce a check on polygraphs for judges and strengthen the importance of jury trials, let's try to sort out these two points in time, and the president asked the verkhovna rada to support . these are the points in the society's demand for justice. to what extent do you

think it will be difficult to make the appropriate decisions and whether will they need if we take a polygraph test and a jury trial there , will they need some kind of assessment of our international partners there from the russian commission, etc., etc. let's start with jury trial, we already have four draft laws with different proposals on jury trial, what the president said, that the category of cases that should be tried by jury trial should be expanded and we have to determine according to which classic model when they accept water or do we go for others the model as it is there now, when they simply supplement together with the judges, they administer justice , we will work it out and provide answers, but also in view of our financial capabilities, because here, well, it is not possible due to the reality of the time to break away from what concerns the polygraph, this will be a difficult issue, i think that it will be a discussion within the committee and within the parliament, i do not rule out that of course we will turn to our international

partners regarding the provision of certain assessments and recommendations on the possibility of using the polygraph, but we studied this experience in fact, it is very seriously international and i can say that the polygraph is used in many countries of the world and the united states of america, in britain and in latvia, lithuania, moldova and poland, and so on . moreover, polygraphs are now used in in ukraine, if we recall the contests for the bureau of economic security before it was acquired for other law enforcement agencies , there candidates for the position of judge passed the polygraph, therefore i believe that the use of the polygraph for candidates for the position of judge is absolutely justified now in relation to acting judges, it is a complicated story, but within the limits separate procedures can and should be implemented, and i would also like you to understand that by itself passing a survey with the help of a polygraph cannot be the only

or sufficient basis for any responsibility, this is a source of information, one of the sources of information on the basis of which the supreme council of justice within the framework of disciplinary proceedings will make a decision on everything else, i understand that. but the judicial branch of government must be independent, or will it not be considered as pressure, for example, forcing this person to take a polygraph no it won't be, it's not pressure, it's not coercion. it's just one of the elements, and what's more, according to the bills that we 're registering in the verkhovna rada today, it will be carried out with the supreme council of justice. i'll remind you that the supreme council of justice is a body of the judicial branch of government and the highest body of judicial governance. that is, it will not be carried out. i'm sorry, neither the parliament, nor the committee, nor the president, no one else, it will be carried out by the body of the judicial branch of government itself , that's why there is no question of independence , and let's speak frankly, we need justice - this is the basis of our statehood, while there on the battlefield of our hero , boys and girls are fighting for justice

, we have to change the country from the inside so that it will never be a country against which they can raise arms and so that the people inside understand for which such an extremely high price was paid, we have no other options, so i want everyone to understand that the judges, the judicial corps, and so on, each of you has an extremely high responsibility and the issue of integrity, the issue of non-corruption in the court and fair court decisions, we will monitor and establish radical measures as much as possible and we will monitor it constantly, because people should feel that they are coming and getting justice, mr. denys, literally 30 seconds are left for the last do you have an example, for example, of a country that was recently able to go through the same path in the reform of the judiciary in order to show our viewers and confirm what is actually possible in such an important time frame of 30 seconds

, that is, as always, we have our own ukrainian experience. but i can give an example moldova, many steps were radically taken there and there is a positive result, so wonderful, a wonderful example of someone from our closest neighbors . thank you for being with us today, we tried. to explain what is the idea of ​​the president in general. yes, and to what extent it will be implemented. thank you, mr. denisa. denis maslov, the head of the verkhovna rada committee on legal policy, joined our broadcast with you at this hour. the last one was oleksim kateryna derkach. program my story and i am anastasia daugule, an interview about how ukrainians

behave, what they feel, how they act during the great war, today our conversation is not with a ukrainian, but with a great friend of ukraine , lithuanian television journalist andris tapiosom i congratulate you mr. andres lithuanian magazine of several popular lithuanian tv shows one of the most influential and recognizable journalists of lithuania at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia became an active defender of ukraine on may 22 andrew stabinas announced in lithuania a nationwide fund-raising for the purchase of a combat drone byraktar for ukraine this was the first international action of this scale and direction . we turned to our ministry of defense

and told them about the idea. they talked with the turkish manufacturer of missiles and they gave the green light. they said ok, we will sell byraktar to the lithuanian people through the ministry of defense if you raise 5 million euros. that's how we started . i gave three weeks for this collection from my point of view . it was optimistic for such a small country like our guys. they collected more than 5 million euros in three days. the united states continues to actively help ukraine, broadcasts its projects with the ukrainian flag on its lapel in ukraine, he was awarded the order of merit of the third degree, what is behind his position, we will try to understand, i will contact you in ukrainian, you already for this year, you communicate with ukrainians so often that it seems to me that they have already started to understand ukrainian. yes, i understand almost everything from you. i don’t speak ukrainian yet. well, i think

it’s a bit of a question of time, for the first time during the great war, since the beginning of the full-scale offensive , now in ukraine how do you feel when you arrived in kyiv? we had drone attacks on kyiv the day before. we have constant air alarms, weren't you a little scared? my mother was a little restless, but for me. well, i saw what i hoped to see. kyiv lived in kyiv. lives his life and people work people walk the streets and even well anyway you feel like that i've been to kiev many times dozens of times yes widowed now i feel like that well that's a little nervousness can be yes but that's

completely understandable but the city is alive and ukraine is alive and this is the most important thing for us who love ukraine and who see ukraine after 1000 km of course i was er earlier for me it was the time of the flight from vilnius to kiev er now er almost two days need to to get to kyiv well, this will pass everything will pass and everything will be restored to the way it was and i am sure that it is even better and that you are changing some quest. i didn’t have it, my colleagues, other volunteers who work with ukraine, they are going, they were in izyume, they were in kherson, well, well, there, there, yes, there, but they go there, they don’t come, and we all work for children. so, i think this is only my last visit, and it will be necessary

to come again. you are one of the top journalists of lithuania , without exaggeration, everyone in lithuania knows you. each person is me personally on this i was convinced that you are the host of the most popular tv shows in lithuania, ukrainians learned a lot about you when you took our side in the first full-scale invasion of russia, and you announced the first among all fundraising initiatives for funds for ukraine, and you decided to present a very specific collection to ukrainians with gifts from lithuania as this idea was born in you at all well, first of all, i think, like many lithuanians , i hold the opinion that the war in ukraine

did not start last year, but in 2014, we we would like to explain to our western colleagues that not since february 24, ukraine has been at war with the roshists, and the idea of ​​​​pobyraktar is so gradual because, first, we came to ukraine with a convoy, brought humanitarian aid and took out refugees. i myself went to the dnieper to the yellow then we bought two drones and scouts and estonian drones to your guru and then already this was such an idea and what can you buy like this what is breathtaking is a knife a tank there or an airplane well of course no one there will sell us a tank and an airplane well and was very popular then the legend of the bayraktar there and the song was created there and there like that, yes, they captured the people's bayraktar

, even if not immediately . and they said that you are asking, uh, if it will be difficult, we will look for a corporation there, sponsors, and the like. i think that this is a waste for us, well, 3-4 weeks, it took 3.5 days, that's all, well, how was such an electrified, electrified atmosphere in lithuania they all wanted something and not only with money but with some small shares to become a part of this big project then and that is the most important thing that i liked well of course there was a story later because the turkish company donated this byraktar and well we still had uh in this

money 5 million 900,000 € to buy something else for ukraine . we bought 100 anti-drone guns there, we bought a lot of medical aid for the cherkassy region . that we somehow turned out to be so wild that is, other countries sent a wave to lithuania, even sergey prytula, who said , oh , this is an idea. did they do it for others on this or that, they asked no no no no not for everyone it worked out but the most important thing is that we showed that people from the other side can buy for their fighting brothers and sisters in ukraine not only humanitarian

aid, not only there helmets or bulletproof vests but and very serious weapon what is tv 2 how did the lithuanians accept this idea in general, they didn't blame you. what, for example, is what you are talking about, and isn't it better to buy ambulances , or isn't it better to buy medical equipment for the victims and not weapons, because bayraktar is a weapon? well, we have many funds that work with with medical help and humanitarian help and here everything is already like that well, the story itself is very strong, that is, it is simple, teachers , students, even schoolchildren, pensioners, they wanted to be a part of eh and buy weapons for ukraine because this is the last time it happened during the second world war when the british were willing to buy a speeder for their air force. well, again, they

bought for their country, for another country , that’s as they say. a-and fundraising that has such importance needs to be strong. stories and then we had even more other stories. we bought a legion of kamikaze drones for ukraine. we bought three marine drones for the president zelensky voyn fund this is an anti-fort, how much money, on average, does an ordinary lithuanian transfer money to these initiatives that lithuania offers for ukraine, well, it's difficult to say the average, the average , generalization, i'll say yes, i'll give one of the biggest initiatives that passed at the end of january, it was called radar, and we bought 16

radars for the defense system of ukraine, and it was 14 million euros collected in three weeks. it's not only we were gathering to collect all the big funds of lithuania, it would be a joint action . only for this campaign, he donated five, uh, 5 €, yes, every lithuanian person, well, if we took some big country, that's how we talk , for example, i don't know italy or great britain, how much money they could collect then, if every briton there donated five pounds for the armed forces of ukraine but i think in principle about one hundred €, i would say that people who want to help ukraine do this every month they transfer about €100 they need

who buy 2 jeeps there and take them to a specific brigade and with which they have some contacts. so, this is not stopping in lithuania yet, and here i am again saying that today we are also thinking about what kind of story is possible come up with an idea to make an even bigger action, because after the radar and 14 million euros, it is necessary to take such a break as a lithuanian to save up money for the help of ukraine, but in the end, i would say that about 100 euros are active people translate into lithuanian and when there are such large shares well then already skidyvaetsya almost every one you said that now you are thinking about the next action and thinking about how to make it attractive yes for lithuanians is there a certain fatigue from the war in ukraine we see

that unfortunately for us the war has left the top of the world headlines in the newspapers yes if the first weeks are the first for months, absolutely all the world's publications wrote about the war in ukraine, but now this topic is gradually shifting, because the average resident of the west is a little tired of it, does the lithuanians have a ukrainian theme in it? well, i think that lithuania will never forget the ukrainian theme. what all the main events in our country are covered in the front pages, either this is the beginning of a counteroffensive, or some new packages of help for ukraine, and our most important people in medicine are also in charge of drone strikes

oil storage drones in krym and in crimea and the like so that in lithuania it is and still on the first pages, i think that it will remain so because ours in the line are different , they differ from the impressions of our colleagues in the western world, that is, when меня спражает that's why lithuanians support ukraine so much after all, let it be a war, i always answer the same way, it's ours, we think it's our war because, well, we can't fight on the front line, but we understand that if it's not ukraine , it could be lithuania. well, we are nato members, of course, that's what there is a barrier, but still, this monster to whom we need to live, he will never forget all of these eh, when he lost ukraine and us, he cannot come to terms with the fact that this is lost for the empire forever, and this war showed that this is

probably the biggest mistake empire because now hatred is like the empire of the empire of the former soviet union, the empire of the roshist empire, the black empire is handed down from generation to generation, we can forget about any normal relations with russia for the next generation, and we feel the same way here by russia, all businessmen who work with russia are on black lists, that is, lithuania understands that it is necessary to treat this situation harshly, and at the same time, they will never stop helping those who are now defending the entire civilized world, this is what we understand poles and latvians, estonians and czechs understand this very clearly, and our diplomats and our politicians in

brussels are also working on this . the gate is all about everything accents how europe should help ukraine the western european audience now accepts arguments that ukraine needs constant support to which arguments do they react er they react to er terrible photos and videos when another russian missile hits a residential a house in ukraine, do they react to numbers and facts , or do they react to cold analytics, what does a western reader, viewer, respond to? no , you lived. i am not an analyst of western media, but all these crimes of russia are repeated in different ways. this is at least so that people are already used to it, alas, they are used to