[000:00:00;00] remains quite high, so we are doing everything to bring our victory closer and i will say goodbye to you until monday at 6:10 p.m. and our tera serhiy rudenko and his verdict program will continue. let's watch together. good evening. we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine. this is the verdict program . my name is serhiy rudenko. greetings to everyone and good health to everyone. volodymyr zelenskyy is finishing his eastern european tour. yesterday he was in bulgaria, today he was in the czech republic and slovakia , and today he should arrive in turkey , where he will meet with the president of turkey

rzhep and ip erdogan, meanwhile, washington is considering the issue of providing ukraine with ammunition that will be related to the strengthening of our army and ammunition in general that will allow us to make an effective counteroffensive, so far the discussion regarding the provision and possibility of such ammunition what exactly is going on in washington, we expect that the president of the students in america joseph biden will announce the provision of a new military aid package in the amount of 800 million dollars, so this message will appear when it appears we of course we will inform you about this, we are talking about cluster munitions, meanwhile, in the direction of bakhmut ukrainian defense forces have returned the previously occupied territories of the russian federation oleksandr syrskyi informed about everything today we will talk about this for

the next hour with the colonel of the security service of ukraine, people's deputies of ukraine roman kostenko oleksandr musienko and younger sergeant of the armed forces of ukraine, yuri gudymenko, i will traditionally start our program with information about the losses of the occupiers in ukraine, 232,810 russians have already died in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 510 people since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 4,070 tanks, 7,944 armored combat vehicles, 4,330 artillery systems, 658 rocket launchers , 408 air defense systems, 315 aircraft, 309 helicopters, 6,898 units of automotive equipment, 18 ships, boats, 12 71 cruise missile 3,652 drones 612

units of special equipment i would like to introduce today's first guest - he is a people's deputy of ukraine colonel of the security service of ukraine roman kostenko sir colonel, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air, let's start our conversation with the analysis of the situation on the eastern and southern fronts, as i said at the beginning of the command of the ground forces from the armed forces of ukraine, oleksandr syrskyi reported that in the direction of bakhmut, the ukrainian defense forces returned the previously occupied territories the defense forces are making progress and moving forward, said the syrian. well , the information appeared just now that the deputy minister of defense of ukraine, hanna malyar, says that the enemy in bakhmut is actually in

traps, the armed forces of ukraine are advancing on the southern flank of the city. well, of course, there is information that the armed forces of ukraine are advancing and conducting offensive actions in the melitopol and berdyan directions. how would you, colonel, characterize the current actions of the armed forces of ukraine and the successes of the ukrainian army in the east and south of ukraine well , we have to understand strategically that success is always a very good question, let's say the scope of these successes and we know that our defense forces are doing everything to ensure that in the donetsk direction prevent further advance of the enemy, and despite the fact that we do not talk about our active actions there, about our counteroffensive, that is, the enemy , on the contrary, in the donbas, they are trying to advance in different directions, with a separate exception , there in the bakhmut region, where we are conducting active actions , everything else is opposed there, siverskyi or

directions are trying to counterattack and are trying to knock us out of our positions to create their own conditions for a further offensive, as for zaporizhzhia, the enemy is holding positions and we are literally gnawing at everyone on this front, from each there 100,200-300 m. we go through the dominated fields, we destroy the enemy and take away 1.3 m. there , too, the situation is difficult. take the kherson direction directly, then here the situation is more stable , there are some successes, in particular, the actions of our military, who are now trying to consolidate this success there, and continue to inflict losses

on the enemy, the enemy is suffering significant losses on on the left bank and continues to carry them thanks to our forces for several days mr. colonel, there were a lot of warnings from president zelensky and from the head of military intelligence kyryll budanov regarding the zaporizhzhia npp , literally, today, an interview with kyryll budanov was published by the reuters agency, an answer to a question about the situation on zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant we will hear and see the threat subsides subsides what happened so that once again i'm sorry they can't give you an answer to this but it's a fact the threat subsides it is noted that no i don't understand, this means that the man-made disaster, at least we somehow postponed it together with joint efforts, but did not avert it until the station is captured, it

can happen again at any moment, but despite all the warnings of the ukrainian leadership, the world eh, well, 1.5 has been watching for years how the russians are holding the entire planet hostage because the nuclear power plant is the same nuclear weapon in the hands of terrorists, especially on foreign territory , on territory occupied by russians, why yours does not have any such sharp statements of sharp movements regarding rosatom regarding the actions of the russian occupiers, does everyone understand that behind what is happening, in principle, there is the usual blackmail and putin up to a certain limit well, he will keep it as budano says, the whole world is in tension

and until then from there, the russian army will not go to russia, blackmail, first of all, we do not know what happened there, we only know from the words of mr. budanov that at first the threat was increasing, then hlibova that the threat was decreasing . therefore, this is from his words and the situation. in general, we we understand that uh, while the station is really in the hands of the russian federation, then we can exclude uh , some kind of accident , exclude some kind of danger. we can't, because this is the russian federation . that they are ready for any disaster . well, not a man-made disaster, so that it is man-made, as a rule, it is somehow created directly by some technical means, namely

, before a terrorist attack. mr. colonel, can the russian army, led by putin, continue to raise the stakes? that is, we are watching in the sequel how they gradually gradually raise the stakes, the highest stake in this game there is tactical nuclear weapons, the use of tactical nuclear weapons, dmitry medvedev speaks that there are actually two ways in ukraine, either agree to the peace offered by the kremlin , or they will arrange, relatively speaking, hiroshima and nagasaki, well, at least he drew parallels between the americans striking japan, 300,000 people were injured there in as a result of these strikes in the 45th year and between what could happen in ukraine, for example, it is normal to look at respectable people who were really respected in the world, and the same putin, we, medvedev , for example, were perhaps more afraid there, understood who they really are, but still i was with them respect, now they have become just such

clowns who, in fact, did not create anything in their lifetime in the same russian federation, but imitated nuclear weapons from the soviet union, the creation of which also took part , in particular, our specialists, especially carriers ukrainians did it and now they are threatening the whole world, they are just funny dwarfs who are trying to charm and make fun of what in fact we did not participate in at all , we only robbed this country and now they are trying to threaten the world, they are like that now, in principle, everyone is eh and they perceive that way, because they didn't say it there, i don't think that tactically, nuclear weapons are what the russian federation can limit themselves to, in fact, the question here is that it will be a threat to people, people, in order to preserve their power, they can go there to the most extreme measures there application, let it be a nuclear tactical weapon or some operational weapon, but it can threaten it, and the whole world understands that the russians

, especially the leadership, which is currently in power, is like a monkey with a grenade, which at any moment, thinking irrationally, can throw a grenade. therefore, we must introduce all our policies and the west must introduce its policies, including military ones, taking into account the fact that nuclear weapons are in the hands of criminals and who understand that if they lose their members, they will sit behind bars or let's say that they will go to court and there already. of course, what methods will be applied there, it will depend on what they have managed to do before they fall under the numbers, and we have to take into account that they can go to of the end and build politics in this way, mr. colonel, and one topic is relevant on the eve of the allocation of another package of military aid

in the amount of 800 million dollars. it is cluster munitions. the united states of america plans to provide ukraine with cluster munitions, at least that is what the cbs news tv channel claims and referring to american officials, and this information has already caused a wide discussion even among those partners with whom we are in contact at the beginning of the great war, who are helping us . the same germany, they are quite cautious in commenting on the possibility of the ukrainians using cluster munitions, saying that not everything is so clear-cut and that we must be careful military a viewer of the british tv channel scenus-shonbel also says that the consequences of the use of cluster munitions in ukraine will be felt for many years because some of the munitions do not explode and remain on the territory, so it will be difficult for the sappers to work with

it. as a military person who understands this, what do you say about cluster munitions and the precautions that are in place in the facility regarding the provision of such munitions to ukrainians? well, first of all, we must understand what was the convention that forbade e-e is not valid, and the signing was an agreement with some countries that signed it, prohibiting the use of cluster munitions, and not the united states, not the russian federation, not ukraine did not sign, so we have full the right to use these munitions is the first, the second, russia has been using these munitions against us from the very beginning of the war to the full extent, both for mining and for impressing our positions, then the russians have no problems at all, this is using third parties - it can strengthen our combat capabilities because we understand and give us a larger amount of ammunition, because we have to understand that the amount of ammunition that is used now is ordinary, there is its own fragmentation, and

there is armor-piercing, it is such that it no longer takes out to the west or, in fact, takes from them how much munitions that they themselves do not have time to build and produce them and now they say that we are adding these ammunitions because we will run out of such ordinary ones, but these are also effective there, looking at what type of ammunition, because we will be provided with the artillery ones as far as i know and the prices there for rocket systems of salvo fire. therefore, now the remote minus system and everything . therefore, i say once again, this will give us the opportunity to have more years of the range of ammunition precisely in the 155 caliber - this is defensive slaughterhouses, this is high-explosive fragmentation cluster munitions are excalibur guided munitions and this will make it possible to better perform fire tasks when , for example, we have a fire task to

knock out the enemy procurement. in this way, we can knock the enemy out of the trenches. if necessary, we place a bunker somewhere and hit it with a high-explosive weapon. if necessary , the excalibur technique increases our capabilities . the question is to preserve this land and not lead to the fact that i will then protect the russian federation from different types of munitions, as for our partners who, through the same germany, condemn the transfer of these munitions to us, i will say this i guess it can be called such a populist consistent policy because germany refused and it cannot support, well, how come politicians come to power from which and clearly support what the state does, if the state refused, it cannot speak oh

yes, we are in favor of these ammunition being used here, we need to watch and listen on the sidelines to what the politicians are talking about. of course, if the country has refused these ammunition, they cannot tell their voters that we support their use, but this at the same time, they were condemned for this that's why i think this is a continuation of a consistent policy and we will communicate with our partners, and here you know the question of what, er, speaks in my favor. these ammunition for example then of course the decision had to be made by consensus and of course those countries and there are more than 100 countries i think i don't know how many specifically nato should have voted for providing ukraine with these cluster munitions of course somewhere one country was against because we remember that in nato everything is accepted by consensus, these elections did not reach us, and it was decided that the government of each state separately

decides to provide ukraine with a certain type of ammunition. i think this was done specifically so that, uh, we received a certain type of ammunition, and then internal politics is the internal matter of each country, do they support or not support us to do what we do? i have already mentioned that these days volodymyr zelenskyi is on an eastern european tour and yesterday he was in bulgaria, today in the czech republic, in slovakia, he should also be in turkey and we know that he will also go to vilnius themselves, they themselves understood that volodymyr zelensky is now trying to win the support of eastern european countries well, in particular bulgaria, yesterday in bulgaria zelenskyi spoke with the president and he criticized the president of bulgaria, romen radov, because of his words that weapons will not help to end a full-scale war against russia, he said to the council that there is no military solution

, weapons will not solve anything, zelensky in response simply criticized this statement. we were interested not only from the point of view of support in the north atlantic alliance, but a lot of former soviet weapons and large warehouses remained , and bulgaria could help us, including with soviet planes that are stationed there. this is how sofia reacted to your request. and in general, to these negotiations of zelenskyi. why do they constantly talk about the fact that there is no military solution and weapons will not solve anything ? that is, they were convinced by moscow that there is no need to help kyiv. well, first of all, bulgaria is really us. it is important if we have already taken most of the munitions from warehouses

. practically all the pluses have militant factories that manufacture soviet -style ammunition, and let's face it, they also help us a lot, that's why when they talk with weapons it won't help, they are one of the last sponsors, eh, we will tell you before the delivery , including ammunition for us, eh, for this we thank you very much and other types there and armored vehicles, and this, i think, applies to such statements of the president of bulgaria. maybe he has some it is possible that there are reasons for this. he talked with someone there. but if we talk about whether the armed forces will help this war or not and whether there are any solutions, i think the president of bulgaria wants such solutions to end the war this year or

to end the war in a few months, and here we are. as military we understand that no matter how many weapons we have, we will not be able to end the military conflict with these weapons by the end of the year or in a few months, because russia also has a lot of weapons, and we will continue to say that we will knock out their potential for a long time, and we will say that we will not be able to do it until at the end of the year, precisely by military means, that's why he probably wants a quick end to the war and says that weapons won't help. let's negotiate, but we understand that weapons will help. we just have to understand that this is a long game, and in order to agree on something one day, we need to have strong positions a strong army and to agree only on how much russia will get out of our territory in a week or two, that's why i have an explanation that he wants a quick end to this war. in order to reduce their military potential in order to have good positions in the future and expel russia from our territory

against this background, the prime minister of the czech republic, petr fiala, with whom volodymyr zelensky met today, said that the czech republic will to help ukraine and it helps the ukrainian army a lot, let's hear what fiala said, it's inspiring how bravely ukraine is resisting russia, i hope that our supplies of military aid support it in this czech military aid suppliers have been working for a long time, the war has been going on for a long time 57 days in the country. we sent 667 pieces of heavy equipment and larger ones out of four

million ammunitions, this means that every day 10,000 pieces of communication vehicles or at least one tank leave for ukraine. this is what the czech republic and the entire democratic world must do. today i confirmed to mr. president that the czech republic will donate attack helicopters to ukraine next month and another 100,000 pieces of large-caliber immunity ammunition. sorry , the czech republic will help train specialists for f-16 aircraft and provide a simulator for such training well , let's hear what else zelensky said about long-range weapons, how difficult it will be

to conduct an offensive mission without long-range weapons, not only an offensive mission it is difficult to carry out. if you are honest, conducting a defense operation is very difficult, this means that you are defending your land and you cannot reach the appropriate distance to destroy your enemy, that is , the enemy has a distance advantage, so it is important for, i would say so, not only for offensive and defensive offensive actions of our military , long-range weapons are not news

. there were different periods, and we understand that during the initial periods of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, practically everyone was unpleasantly impressed. yes, and because no one expected such resistance from ukraine and no one believed in ukraine. were from the very beginning, we understand that these were such primitive supplies, yes, they still handed them over, but they were not supplies that gave us the opportunity to fight in the second army of the world, er, there were some pronatomes, machine guns and all that er, then the first er, let’s say, they started to give us a hand receiving the united states poland great britain when they already saw that we are something more than just there grenade launchers where for close combat when the guns have already gone because of course they were unpleasantly impressed at the beginning by the labor which there declared that putin must save face germany

which also happened to go to, let's say to some negotiations when they gave us 3,000 helmets and we tried to convert them to you, but such countries as the czech republic, lithuania, latvia, estonia, the same poland, they understood that there was no choice , they immediately began to give us and relatively gdp in relation to what they have, they gave more than there to partners who have much more weapons, everything is like this while the big countries were swinging, they gave almost everything, so we immediately see that well, who helped us right away, and history will remember it, other countries swayed for a long time, but give credit, now they are already starting to help there, despite some statements, this is great. thank you, but only after they saw that we are strong and they can stand next to us. thank you, colonel . this was a novel by kostenko, a colonel of security of ukraine people's deputy of ukraine we work live and also on our boards on youtube and facebook for those who are currently

watching us live please like this video subscribe to our social networks further contact us oleksandr musienko head of the military center - of legal research mr. oleksandr i congratulate you and thank you for joining our conversation. i congratulate you. so today volodymyr zelenskyy is finishing his eastern european tour e. bulgaria, czech republic, slovakia and has to go to turkey, obviously with e-e reggae and ip erdoğan, he will talk not only about the extension of the grain agreement, which ends on july 17. and obviously also about the support of ukraine on the way to nato, because turkey plays a very important role, we noticed this after finland and sweden went through this stage of joining nato, but it is obvious and the topic of negotiations with russia may not be on this conversation either, what does zelenskyy want

on the eve of the vilnius summit by embarking on this tour of eastern europe and turkey well , eastern europe is understood because the geography of the countries is also understood in bulgaria, the czech republic slovakia, from the point of view of strengthening our defense-technical cooperation , and it is important . i want to remind you that bulgaria is one of those countries that supplied a large number of soviet-type shells and other weapons that ukraine needs. s300 anti-aircraft defense device well, which one did you hand over ? that is, of course, it is not a patriot, but it also

came in handy. the czech republic helped ukraine a lot and this result ended with those helicopters. well, slovakia is also the production of artillery in this case. therefore , from the point of view of strengthening our relations , deepening cooperation in the defense-industrial complex, which is one of the priorities, should be one from the priorities now against the background of the war, this is clear. and as for turkey, it is definitely indirect, it can also be explained by defense and technical cooperation, because we have a number of projects with turkey and turkey supplied us with weapons. and it is not only the bayraktars but against this background, i think that, most likely, this is the issue of the grain agreement, the introduction of some clarity, which is also important for turkey, and turkish president erdoğan , he personally used it as a positive example of where turkey can

work and in fact, to be such a mediator, and the second point, i think that it is really the same with the nato summit , turkey was important and already plays a role in the security of the black sea region, as for the negotiations with russia, you understand, well, of course, what about this now let's say this information about that that erdoğan plans to talk to putin after the meeting with the ukrainian president, it immediately and can raise certain doubts, but before that, there was nothing new, it was more than that. that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi and the russian dictator putin meet in ankara or istanbul. that is, it is always the case, but it does not mean that it will happen, because it seems to me that there are some parameters now

negotiations in general. well, we understand very well that this will not happen, because no matter what anyone says, we will do some conspiracy theory or some assumptions, even before the fact that i am the president of cardigan - this can be offered, i have no doubt that he will offer it. i almost have no doubt that it will be heard at the meeting , but i don't think it will have any consequences. this is exactly this. this is exactly the question. on july 11-12 , the next nato summit will be held in vilnius, and everyone is actually waiting for the results on the eve of it . the ukrainian side said that we we are waiting for ukraine to become a member of the north atlantic alliance stoltenberg said today that the leaders of the nato countries at this summit will approve a multi-year support package for ukraine that will bring it closer to the alliance, we will hear what the secretary general of the north atlantic alliance said that the leaders of the alliance countries will agree on a package of three