[000:00:00;00] information from ukraine and the world. the frontline chronicle is on our website. i say goodbye to you, friends. i wish you a good weekend. take care of yourself and your loved ones . goodbye from london on the air in the spring from ukraine. i am yevgenia shadlovska and today we are talking about the consequences of the explosion of the kakhovskaya hpp. big problems

still remain without clean drinking water , hundreds of thousands of people in the south of ukraine. at that time, almost 80 settlements in the mykolaiv region of kherson were flooded, several thousand people were evacuated , at least 20 people died in the territory controlled by the ukrainian authorities, what happened in the occupied territories, who were the victims, this cannot be verified as of the beginning of july in the kherson region, according to the state service from emergency situations , 18 settlements remained flooded, all but one on the occupied left bank , more than ten arose from the kahovsky reservoir cubic kilometers of water, the area of ​​the reservoir has decreased by approximately 80% of reservoirs that used to provide drinking water more than a million people in the government say that due to the explosion of the kakhova hydroelectric power station, the losses of the agricultural sector may reach more than 10 billion dollars and the damage to the environment is one and a half billion dollars , we will talk a little about the economy and the agricultural sector later, but first, about how after

the disaster, the south of ukraine lives without water, my colleague - journalist viktoria zhivan visited the village of snighurivka in the mykolaiv region and saw how 50 km from the destroyed dam people give advice on the consequences of the disaster. the ingulets river flows into the dnipro. but after the destruction of the kakhovka dam, the power of the dnipro water was so powerful that it flooded ingulets, and the entire territory was flooded, as well as the wells on the coast that supply water to the snowbank, so now that the water has already left here, it has all one thing remained in the groundwater, and therefore the city of snigurivka still does not have its own drinking water. specialists are taking water samples from wells and rivers. they should

study whether it is safe to drink or at least to wash with it, gardens, yards, toilets, etc. were flooded, anything could get into the aquifer, if, for example, there is a large amount of nitrates in this water , it is forbidden for children under three years old to use this water, that is , it can lead to flying accidents, and while the examinations are ongoing, residents of all the flooded areas for half a day, they drink the imported water, how long it will last, no one knows. this is the first such disaster in the world. in june, the water rapidly flooded these fields and is receding very slowly . the flood destroyed the crops, polluted the slopes and destroyed the houses, the floor, gave it, gave it up to the ceiling, volodymyr and his family grow grain in the neighboring village

of pavlo-maryanivka, and today the main task of the farmer is to restore housing before winter, and there is already a fungus, that's all that's needed. it's a cool stone and everything has to be done in a new way on this street of houses were flooded up to the roofs, how high the water reached , you can see the trees, only the crowns remained. and what was in the water, the farms that survived after the battles and occupation could not withstand the flood , flights were cut down. well, you see how many of them i processed half of it, the half that was burned by the explosion, and then added it, and that’s it. the wood won’t go away anymore, and that’s all. you can already see what it should be. it’s green and it ’s brown. there were trees like that here. there were

cherry trees that left nothing and everything needs to be extracted in a new way. it is necessary. i don’t know. after the flood, the potato gardens look as if they weren’t planted. the fields of salamanders seem to have turned into a desert, and whether it will be possible to sow here again, no one knows yet . first of all, farmers solve urgent issues, save flooded houses and look for new sources of water viktoriya shugan ivan yermakov bbc news of ukraine mykolaiv region and the consequences of supporting the kahiv hpp we talk with experts, contact us economist former head of the ministry of economy pavlo kokhta and oleksiy vasylyok ecologist head of a public organization ukrainian nature protection group and oleksiy first

question to is it already clear to you how and with what the territory that was flooded was polluted ? we already have samples taken from different areas of the kakhovsky reservoir, but the results will be in a few months, it is not done so quickly. that is, we will wait for the samples. we are sending them for analysis to two countries of western europe and will be happy to make them public . but this it will not be earlier than in two or three months, but less with the fact that it is 100% that we are talking about the polluted sludge that was in my reservoirs , this is not news, many people are talking about it such if

data that could be trusted because on sorry, no one has yet published the results of the tests, there are no documents from any laboratory from the laboratory in the public domain, but i would first of all draw attention to the fact that in romania and bulgaria fishing in the sea has been banned where er. since the day when i was from the kakhovsky reservoir, sea currents reached these countries. the northwestern part of the black sea is so organized that the sea currents stretch from odessa along the coast all the way to turkey. er leaked from the reservoir until it reached odesa further and was picked up by sea currents and already at this point after the terrorist attack er, this sludge crossed the border

of the territorial waters of ukraine and entered the romanian territorial waters from this day romania bulgaria as far as i know, sea fishing has been banned i think they know something that you and i do not know and i would very much like to receive this reliable information. when will there be results about the black sea? we have seen this flowering of water. in a small part, when the water turned green, pablo , the next question for you is without wheat, without vegetables in the territories that have lost irrigation, so what will be the price for the ukrainian economy ? the flood that happened after that mostly it's actually flooded homes that's somewhere around $2 billion that's actually a preliminary estimate i'm sure it's actually uh that number is higher

but at least it's something we can pushing back is mostly physical destruction, yes. that is, it is not yet about how much we lost agriculture in the south, how many, but how many houses were flooded. if we talk about agriculture there in the south, on the one hand , it is clear that irrigation was all tied to the kakhov hpp, that is, in in the short term, for sure. there will be big problems with this , on the other hand, we have to understand that this is the soviet system, as they built these a-a reservoirs, this hydroelectric power plant, to put it mildly, it was not very economically efficient, the soviet system was not super economically efficient, in fact, i suspect that it was even worse for the environment than for the economy, well, it is not, i think that my visa officer can comment better , but in principle and economically, it was not exactly so well done, so if you go there, for example, in israel, see how they irrigate the desert, the desert is real, it’s not some

kind of reservoir and a giant, gigantic , concrete channel, it’s rather such thin pipes and drip irrigation, it’s very super effective, you ’re not directly in the desert where vegetables are grown, that is, i it's not enough that i look optimistically with nadia for the future of the region in the sense that with modern technologies and, in principle, with resourceful enterprising people, maybe in a few years they will find a way to do migration in a much more efficient way than it was once before when water was taken from the reservoir and spread over channels, so let's see, let's not put a cross on the region, which is sometimes done. reservoirs and i think that for the modern world it is completely if when there are no russian troops there, shelling of mines and all that is happening there now because this is a real problem, how does he not allow the same kherson region

to recover when all this disappears i think that the region will be able to recover there you they grew a lot of crops, the question is short, what will happen at the site of the kakhov reservoir, it will be a swamp. well, first of all, i want to thank the interlocutor, it is really great to hear not only from who has what from economists, that there can be another way and simply to restore the largest part of stalin's memorials in fact this is the largest that will be a cascade reservoir even in the dnipro this is the largest thing that stalin built in his life why should we restore uh, it's just some kind of stalin's whimsy than it would be possible to do now 100% the modern world has better technology and that the irrigation that was before it was still supplied from the reservoir by pumps if before the water flowed 5 m up, now it will

flow 15 m up, there is no difference at all if irrigation is really restored, but regarding the fact that you say the biggest changes you absolutely right will take place where there is a new reservoir, because this area is completely devoid of soil. this fundamentally distinguishes it from any other area on the map of ukraine , the historical la that was there has been preserved, the christina cemeteries and even the rest of the churches and houses, but there is no soil at all and this territory. unfortunately, in the near future, they will try this, unfortunately, the typical process now is to capture alien plants, which are dangerous species, such as ambrosia. maybe there is a canadian goldenrod. these are the most aggressive plants that are now in ukraine, they are all here with us. came from the american continent and they easily capture new territories where there are simply no our plants, they are the first to capture them and our task now is to prevent this territory from becoming the largest nursery of dangerous alien

plants in the history of europe, as colleagues , primarily from kherson university, have repeatedly said about the fact that this area must be immediately sown with our indigenous local grass species so that this area ceases to be well, so that when the silt finally dries up so that it does not start developing with wind is now the number one question. and what exactly to restore in this territory will depend on how polluted it is, because potentially, as i see it . if i had a magic wand to mine ukraine, i would first of all leave large areas on this territory for the restoration of nature, there was once a flooding of the reservoir here, almost all of this territory was occupied by a huge forest, the very big forest of the steppe zone of ukraine, eh , huge areas can still be returned naturally, you can restore us here, maybe you have

stop, return to nature, and because i want to ask one more question to mr. pavel, we have literally 30 seconds before the end of the program, and we talked about the possible repurposing of the kherson region, and if not agriculture , then what will the region do? well, first of all, i think that agriculture will recover. and god forbid if sufficiently large capital will arrive as part of the reconstruction, it will be restored with new technologies, similar to how it is done in israel, for example, we will see a completely different kherson region. and secondly, kherson region who has traveled, i know a super potential tourist region, huge potential, everything looks very beautiful, absolutely nothing has been done, so when something was done in soviet times, it has been abandoned for a long time, now it is completely zero, god willing, there will be no russian troops there, there will be no such thing that is there now, there is an absolutely wonderful potential tourist region there antalya nova if you want here's what could be there like pavla kokhta oleksiy vasylyok were with us on the air again i'm sorry that we have to stop this conversation but

unfortunately we have to end our broadcast what's up with this i say goodbye to you read more news on our website bbc.ua next time watch the broadcast on monday good luck friends mykolay the next two hours on the tv channel expresso-45 minutes lord an hour and 45 minutes they discuss the main news of this week they talk to experts that most of all he loves mykola i love to ban with him and he with them serhiy grab military expert participant in peacekeeping positions and reserve colonel of the armed

forces of ukraine our first interlocutor on this broadcast congratulations mr. serhiy show yourself o you see, i'm here, good evening, good health, mr. sergey, look at such a simple story - this is specially made . is it a coincidence? everyone says this now, we are in lviv . well, we have appropriate mourning for the dead people, but everyone says, all the experts know that they flew to kyiv then they turned around somewhere and flew to lviv, were they looking for a place to get to, or were they simply not frightened by the anti-aircraft defense of kyiv, and they realized that there they would not be able to cause any damage, and then they flew to lviv, that is, are there any practical considerations there, or are they just like that

that's how it turned out no, they thought absolutely practically and this goal was foreseen, they are metals in military objects we don't have rockets yet with artificial intelligence, so they are a solution , for example. that's why it was programmed from the very beginning and the rockets flew with the absolutely defined purpose of inflicting damage, that's why we can, mr. serhiu , now somehow respond to this by defending myself. i mean first of all, that is, if it was like that, then it will probably be like that, they will fly there, i don’t know, on the contrary, to lviv, then they will spin up and fly to kharkiv region , kyiv or somewhere else on a ship on the susumami, so it gets shorter, it is now so new tactics and we have to respond to it with our own defensive force and can we do it? well, let's say so. now we can't respond. and by the way, i wouldn't be so dramatic. you know, if you take the statistics, 10

missiles flew into the lviv area, seven were damaged, and 70% of the effectiveness it a very high indicator, taking into account that we have to lviv, we are working with, let's say, more formidable anti-aircraft defense systems. therefore, we must understand that there is a war going on in us , we must understand that the enemy will continue to strike . therefore, all we can do from the point of view of defense is to increase our defense potential , that is, more weapons which is located from our allies eh should be used to cover such important regional centers , in particular, in which troops and important military objects are found i understand that it is very difficult to organize, that is, that everything takes time, but this is what we can afford for the time being, another case of which we can say that no war was won by security and therefore we need to strike, but for that we need long-range systems that are our allies. it's a pity they can't give and we have to count on our own forces

, that is, we are talking about those drones. well, for which ukroboronpromi spoke to me. i would really like to see them. to be honest, our allies are generally against striking on sovereign they are not on the territory of russia. so when ukraine does it itself. by the way, this is the problem. well, they may not be happy, but you know, i am more inspired by the example of israel, which understands the priority walls and the priority of the lives of its population and the protection of its territory, and in principle, our allies are they themselves accept it, they say that ukraine has the right to choose, it is a whole in all directions where it considers it necessary. of course, at the same time, they convincingly ask not to use their weapons, well, in fact, we do not have such weapons to date, sergey look what a strange strange material, where is the e-mail, that the kremlin may be preparing to blow up the crimean bridge with beautiful mercenaries, it doesn’t matter what kind of mercenaries we are, but in principle

, what does this mean, or is it worth thinking about it at all? is it just a british newspaper that wrote some nonsense? a newspaper duck because there is nothing in it and you have to understand that the enemy is now in a situation if our troops do break through, i have hope that they will retreat to the coast of the sea of ​​azov and cut the land corridor, then in fact the crimean the bridge and the ferry crossing will remain two-faced with such thin threads that will provide at least a partial supply, not reliable, not satisfactory, but at least some supply, so blow up this bridge all the more with the forces of the wagnerites, who have already been written off in style by and large. well, there is no need. therefore this is a newspaper duck, if the ukrainians blow up this bridge, how effectively can

these shuttles communicate between the russian coast and the ukrainian coast there on the sea of ​​azov? well, because now, as you know, putin said that there are some military boats there to transport er paralysis something, you need to understand that there are also energy communications that provide crimea with electricity coming from this direction. therefore, it will be a very serious blow to the enemy. of course, we will not be able to destroy the city from now on, but we will destroy certain objects objects on the territory, well, in the area of ​​the bridge, we can, and experience has shown that even one explosion on the bridge leads to catastrophic consequences for the russians, if i am not mistaken , they played for several months to recover of this bridge in order to at least restore it. and it seems that they have not completely restored it, that is, any damage to this bridge will seriously affect the enemy's ability to supply his troops. and in addition, if we also destroy the port facilities that provide a constant

crossing both on the krasnodar coast and on the crimea this is very serious , it will reduce the enemy's capabilities by 10% by 70 , but i wanted to ask, returning to this topic in defense of our chinese, you say that we should follow the examples of israel, israel really protects his interests, as you can see, the president does not invite the prime minister to the white house for how many months , have a good day. look what will happen to the ukrainian president. so how to do it today, no one forbids us to use our forces and means , that is why i paid attention to the ukroboronprom so far, because of the strikes that are being carried out, which are still test. well, let's talk like that

by unknown drones, which for some reason very much resemble our drones, we have not yet felt such a negative reaction , known to the white house and you know here, i would say so a little cynically that our allies need to get used to it in order for us to continue to deliver such strikes in depth on the deeper the enemy's territory, the more we try to find a weakness in their anti-aircraft defense system , and actually try to scare them as much as possible. i understand that these strikes are more political than military; they do not make much sense militarily a lot because the territory is very large, but as they say, appetite comes when eating, that is, we will see how our defense complex will develop and so that we can offer it to our troops for use. the president of the united states of ukraine, joseph biden , confirmed this, and our european allies say that this is not necessary, and human rights

organizations say that cluster munitions are not needed, this will mean the first, the first reaction to human rights organizations and why are they silent about the mass use of cluster munitions by the russian federation, why do they put us as victims of aggression, put us on the same level as the aggressor, how to perceive it, well, this is such a retort, a little emotional. if we talk about cluster munitions, well, let's do it, i specifically set out to study it this question can be handed over to us by cluster munitions e-e artillery shells m- 864 so that it was clear e-e the united states does not have them but there are 4.7 million of them according to various data, i.e. imagine what it will be helping the front when we start using those munitions, knocking the enemy out of the trenches, in this way, we will be able to neutralize this advantage of the russians, which they have in personnel. and so that it is clear, there are about

400,000 e-e russian troops operating against us on the ukrainian front, and that's why such ammunition will be very, very, very important improvements for us, because we will significantly save the strength and life of our military, and we will save the lives of our servicemen who are actually conducting not military but police operations cleaning up those combat positions, literally ripping the enemy out of everyone. this is the law for us and it's time because we have anxiety, we ran to the basement, we have to show an example with italy , that we go to the basement like him. floors below to the basement, so we'll see each other from the basement. and i'm already up . ok, thank you. watch this week's program , collaborators, traitors from the city. happiness, as a school principal, became a fan of russian

mirativa. everyone protected our students from nationalism, they realize political ambitions. in the company, he was born in the soviet union , and for me, this is a family . such a migration of traitors is taking place now in the temporarily occupied territories of the kherson and zaporizhzhia regions, in anticipation of our great counteroffensive, these rats began to tremble and gather possessions. and the phrase russia is here

forever they say in whispers, our goal is to have more suspicions and court sentences for traitors from crimea and krasnodar of this region that this year it is a goat valeriy viktorovich , born in 1976, originally from kherson, the packages he is talking about, unfortunately, are not cargo 200, this is the so-called humanitarian aid for those who suffered as a result of the explosion of the kakhov hpp , russian propaganda is trying to convey through its puppets that they are saving people from the calamity caused by ukraine. kozlov is one of the most active activists worked as an economist at state-owned enterprises, agreed, opened his own business, began manufacturing furniture and selling household goods in specialized stores, in addition to an entrepreneurial spirit, he also has a treasonous, according to information, local content of the 14th year. kozlov demonstrated his pro-russian views and supported the creation of terrorist republics of the lpr and dpr also participated in anti-ukrainian rallies after

february 24, 2022, supported the arrival of the so-called liberators to the territory of the kherson region from march 2022, organized a gathering of humanitarian aid for russian servicemen called on local residents to support the actions of the occupying authorities, the occupiers liked this plan very much. so they threw him a bone in the form of the position of managing director of the administration of the dnipro settlement of novokakhovsk baka, at first they sent this goat to study at the academy of public service management under the president of the russian federation , currently in higher education valery kozlov, head of affairs of the dnipro teru of the novokakhov city district, is studying public administration. there he was told the basic concepts of the russian system issued an icon, a portrait of putin, and sent goats to carry the ideology of russian peace to the masses and galloped around decorating the dnipro city with russian

flags, praising murderers, encouraging the cooperation of local residents, settling the russian army in the homes of those who left, and, of course, giving interviews about how rashka helps the region there on the color of our people, how many of them will be in ecorytsya, we will be able to go to places , i will try, unfortunately, in this case, the surname of the traitor describes him fully in turku and soon he will jump through the swamps from our armed forces and law enforcement agencies and far from escaping handcuffs are already waiting for him in 2014 she told the ukrainian mass media about what it is like to conduct classes under shelling 5 km from luhansk and now she is tweeting to russian propagandists about 8 years of ukrainian nationalism meet the two-faced headmistress of school number 56 in in the city of shchastya still gulkova antonina anatolyivna for the control of

happiness 9 years ago, fierce battles were fought between our defenders and terrorists of the luhansk people's republic until in the fall of the same year happiness was finally under under the control of ukraine , despite constant shelling from the self-proclaimed lpr , the city did not surrender and continued to live tomorrow. symbols and involve children in learning ukrainian, this