[000:00:00;00] there are agreements that do not provide security guarantees, this means that now there will be such a certain disappointment in ukrainian society that we are fighting together in the ukrainian military restraining the russian federation, but the attitude of the europeans and americans is so, well, quite cool towards the aspirations of ukraine, this is precisely the reason for such disappointment regarding cooperation with the alliance and the united states , there may be such a consequence of this summit . well, this may happen if the information policy is incorrectly constructed. i think that in in a practical sense, anyway, unless we talk about this, there is such an element of trust that feels well, more specialists feel, er, from international politics than just the public, er, it will not be seen there that this is such an element mistrust. we are not like sweden, you understand. not everyone sees this element. not everyone, but everything else. i think ukraine will be provided with many different

tools and when building an information policy, well, you can say that this is almost what israel has. there won't be such a big problem here. but really, these are those who are directly in contact with international politics. well, there will be such a device , well, the aftertaste is unpleasant from the fact that we are not completely trusted. at the level of sweden, so that such questions do not arise, you mentioned partly about putin, and then a theory arises that we are actually what is happening, that before there they were afraid of the strength of the russian regime, and now they are afraid of weakness the same putin from the point of view that this is precisely related to the weakness of the control of the main challenge for the united states - it is the control

of nuclear weapons . that it is putin who can provide us with further control over the country and then, in principle , stimulate these negotiation processes, which took place in part based on the consideration of a recent publication where the spokesmen of the us national security and defense council said that we are not included in those of the negotiations that were there, there were some american representatives from the russian federation, including possibly in the issue of nuclear weapons control well, even though i am a negative element that the really sunny states are so packed well here, too, it is necessary to understand that if there is chaos in russia, then someone , someone in the world has to take responsibility for maintaining stability and no one wants to do it now, if in 1991 there were enough international forces that were ready now, unfortunately, well, just because of the negative experience of working with russia, everyone knows

that one day russia will still say that it was destroyed and robbed, and well, you can't interfere too much in russian politics, simply kong-constructively, that's why they don't want and indeed, putin uses it a little, but i think now this factor is already being used well, in such a regime that putin should be left those forces that have been coming after putin are being used, they say, well, they are asking to give russia the opportunity, well, to give these forces the opportunity to get into power, and to get into power, they need, well, they don't need a humiliating defeat from ukraine, but this factor exists for that reason, i don't think that anyone cares about putin anymore. he has lost, lost authority in india . it is clear that there is no one right now to replace putin, but i think that all international forces are definitely working, working with those who will come

to power. the good news is that because those who are trying to come to power in russia, they understand that you cannot come to blackmail, you can come to promised de-escalations, you can say, for example, that if we come to power, we will ensure strategic stability, which means that there will be no one scare with nuclear weapons, but in order to come to power, they can say that make money so that we do not lose in ukraine, and here the choice will be difficult for the many-headed. - this is precisely escalation management, escalation management is the determination of the pace of arms supply and the determination of military-technical assistance as the main element of influence on ukraine, and then , on the one hand, it seems to create the conditions there for control over the disintegration or by rebooting the russian federation. and for this process, the ukrainian side has to pay quite significant sacrifices, because

we will fight more slowly without those things that we could get. this really creates such a serious internal challenge for the ukrainian side, if i understand it, well, it seems to me that it is the main threat is that if those forces a, in general, it should be said that anyone who comes to russia in an undemocratic way, because democracy there is not important, after all, we must understand that democracy in russia is impossible, they in the near future, a more constructive force may come to power there, and any more constructive force that comes to power will ask the world not to let there be a humiliating defeat of russia, and with that , they will surely be reckoned with. but if these people, who have nowhere to turn, will still prove that without, well, without a certain maintenance of ukrainian territories, they well, it is not impossible to get the situation in russia, well, then it will be a difficult

choice. i think, after all, there is still time and there are opportunities to convince our partners of that that anyone who comes to power in russia is actually frightening. well, they exaggerate the risks of chaos in russia, they simply exaggerate them in order to come to power in order to get certain preferences, but one must prove here that these risks are exaggerated and the chaos in russia, on the contrary, they give a certain perspective if we coordinate efforts with china, for example, we have something to work with. thank you for an interesting conversation , but only the conclusions are quite disturbing because it actually means that the work of our diplomacy is expensive and there is also what to work, including understanding these challenges in the relations between the united states and the russian federation. thank you oleksiy for these interesting comments for your time, and let me remind you that on the air channels espresso or oleksiy the hedgehog are experts

of the national institute for strategic studies, but against this background, ukraine has opportunities to provide control over security and own forces , taking into account certain developments that our developers are currently demonstrating on the battlefield , including in the context of the demands placed on nato countries, what exactly what things are happening, what am i talking about, we will find out after the information break literally in a few minutes, so stay tuned to the espresso channel, the war has raised its head again in europe, reminding us of the darkest hours of our history, franc24 is constantly covering events in ukraine, our team on the ground and in the studio will inform you about the dynamics of the event

, see more relevant from frantz 24 in ukrainian on espresso de-occupation and how can you live live without stopping you can unsurpassed the history of the liberated cities of ukraine went let's see how we were helped by our brothers, we were freed by the normal equipment of the pro-russian inhumans, it was terrible, it was very terrible, every day, one by one, two houses were burned, and the nazis of the ukrainian people are here. yes, we are all nationalists, people who resisted. the residents came here, stopped them and sent them back, and became the heroes of the novel were always ukraine about the unbreakable cities of ukraine from the ukrainian project documentary cycle deoccupation that on saturdays at 11:10 not espresso we continue our military program in the first

part we talked about what challenges can to cause valance in vilnius itself from the point of view of the decision regarding the accession of ukraine, but of course the main issue of nato will be the actual discussion of the overhaul of such a military machine of the alliance in order to become stronger nato plans to develop at least five areas that are directly related to the strengthening of all the armed forces that are included to the alliance , in particular, it is about strengthening the combat capability of the ground forces, the creation of an integrated anti-aircraft missile defense system , the development of long-range firearms , digital networks that allow fast and to safely transmit data on the battlefield and actually a logistics component to transfer large armies across europe, so we are talking about

all these five directions, there are solutions in the ukrainian armed forces, which are rated very highly in nato countries if you read their specialized publications or even popular publications american, european , where it is mentioned how ukraine conducts combat operations on the battlefield and where it gains advantages using these so-called digital solutions. belongs to such a system called nettle, it was created in ukraine, it significantly increases the efficiency of the use of our units on the battlefield, and we will now talk about this development with our guest , oleg, the head of research projects of the volunteer organization of the army , mr. olezhe, is joining us. i would like you to tell our viewers what

is the advantage of this development, which actually owes its appearance to the work of your team . the principles that use this system say that if it didn't exist , they would be deaf and blind, and they actually paid for the fact that there is no such system with their own lives , so i would like you to tell in more detail about how this system was created that it provides on the battlefield, why is it so important, well, the history of the nettle is already quite well-known in the 14th year, it began as a purely volunteer project of digital maps, then in collaboration with artillerymen , ballistic calculations were added, then with signalmen the possibility of data transmission via tactical communication and so the organic system gradually smoothly without any decisions

was clearly integrated from below in the general system of management of the armed forces or even the armed forces themselves did not really notice how it happened at the level of the military itself among the advantages of the system, i would review i will tell you the path taken by the system. it is precisely its accessibility and massiveness that is not found in any country in the army of the world. as far as i can tell, almost every officer, every soldier, not only an officer, has access to digital maps, but thanks to the prevalence of digital communication is now primarily the starlink technology. we received the actual creation of a single information model of the battle space, which the ukrainian armed forces have and had at the time of the full-scale invasion, and this is

the uniqueness of this system, because in terms of components , it is similar systems there is also our enemy and our allies, and in general, what constitutes a nettle is precisely tens of thousands of users and the availability of information on the relevant infrastructure , including those responsible for distribution training and so on. this is a unique new council in the ukrainian army , in the ukrainian armed forces, what both our allies and enemies are studying, but at the same time, i can’t ask you, in principle, now, that is, this is our second conversation, and you are a supporter of

don't talk about who developed this system, do you feel any risks for yourself or are there any nuances that are related to certain security? well, the decision to be non-public was accepted even at the beginning of a large-scale invasion, first of all, it is related to the risks of cyberspace, that is, a full-scale cyber attack is going on, trying to compromise the accounts of developers after developers are hunted . well, of course you understand. having the internet in the modern world, it is not necessary to send a spy who physically took possession of these codes, it is enough to do some certain actions in the information space in on the internet and this risk we send out very er seriously, that's why we decided not to promote in social networks, not to give a public

interview, it is only limited to release this information , in principle, in narrow circles, key persons are known, these are several private companies that are engaged in supporting the development of nettle well, actually the armed forces themselves, which are also actively developing and implementing nettle . that is, it is a collaboration of a large number of people who understand, well, in real users in the armed forces, i think it is not said there for sure not about tens of thousands, but i already think about hundreds of thousands of tablets that are used by fighters in various branches and types of troops, and the question arises whether the system itself should be adopted for service, or exactly these procedures for adoption, they are from the past, they are now restraining factors for that to er go against the mass of such a system, what do you think about this, well

, the answer is this question is complex, that is , it would be wrong to say that the information protection procedures there are outdated, because these the procedures are quite relevant, they are international standards, such as 27,000, if i am not mistaken, and so on. which are dictated before, and these are quite strict standards, which are difficult to fulfill , even private ones. well, there is no private company or the armed forces, even without a fingerboard, information when the fingerboard is imposed, that’s all becomes much more difficult, therefore, the issue of full legalization and harmonization of a system such as nettle, which is a decorative plant, one might say , made its own way. this is a difficult issue that needs to be resolved. but again, it was

a decision made consciously by the armed forces and developers that it will be gradual, that is, in parallel, work is being carried out on the official adoption of the system of integration into the general management system . of the digital digital system of the tactical link of the armed forces of ukraine, but in general , do you feel proud of the fact that you and your team have made a system that actually, well, our military evaluates it very highly, and even nato partners talk about what they have there is no such thing. what kind of feeling do you have against the background of such evaluations? i will say that of course there is a feeling, er , i

am proud of my work. work, that is, the fact that we can be useful armed forces is, well, this is the main thing for us , that is , everything else is secondary. that is, if we can be useful, this is the main award of the entire team, what it is actually based on, and of course, this is no comparison with the fighters who do not transfer. that is, we only do our own small business, as we think, so with that, it's just on the front line and i will give an example when one of the art units was being formed and one of the commanders of this brigade told me about you what

is being formed do you know if you know the developers in nettles i said that i know i gave it your phones and they then thanked me for what is actually difficult is that the team provided courses for urgent training courses for these officers who then convey this to their subordinates because this direction of mastering the nettle well, it is also extremely important that your people provide a new one, although you did it there and variations there can be found on youtube look, but i give credit for the speed of response to the request from our units. well, i was pleasantly surprised. well, i'll tell you that it's a nettle. i want to believe, maybe these are too loud words that it's already such a national thing. that is, the collaboration itself the organization of ukrainians, it manifests itself, including in this system, when it was created there by specific people, specific developers, now it is already living its life , gunners are also direct

developers who give tasks to programmers and so on, whose volunteers carry out training . there was something so ukrainian and so on invented in 2014 , but the very essence of it is that it is like a wild plant that stings and so on, and it really reflects the essence of this system. that is, it is already a collaboration of a large and large number of people, it is not possible to single out all of this in general, and this is what i will say. this is the uniqueness and ukrainianness of this product, which we can all write about in principle. well, this is already a product. it is alive like any nettle, that is, in fact, it is now acquiring new ones opportunities due to the fact that new solutions are being added, there are new means of information transmission, how it is currently developing, and are there, relatively speaking, any visions of a new project there, in particular, there, well, alya

kropyva 2:0 uh, any product it can be or alive or dead without users without developers, a product does not live for a long time, the modern world requires constant interaction, constant development operations, reactions to user needs, and all this is now happening when you are nettles and very big, now if you say everyone gather all developers from all divisions, it is dozens and dozens of developers , this is very active development, well, active combat actions, changing some nuances of use, all this is reflected in new versions of the product that come out almost every 2-3 weeks with significant upgrades, this is this, this is the usual

as for nettle 2:0 , here the question is broader, while we are evolving, of course, unfortunately, literally a few seconds, so i still have to say goodbye. the press class was oleg ot, who represents the volunteer organization army sos and is one of the developers and initiators of the creation of the nettle system, which is now effectively used by the armed forces and which, in fact, is an example for low-lying nato countries that are trying to create their own digital systems, i am oleksandr sklyar, born and raised in kharkiv, in a city that suffers from russian weapons every day, i know that poltava has become a home for tens of thousands of displaced people, and for me a second hometown where the best years of my career passed. thank you in the armed

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can you live now without stopping you can unsurpassed the history of the liberated cities of ukraine gone let's see how our brothers helped us , freed us from a normal life, freed us from the normal technology of pro-russian inhumans , it was terrible, it was very scary, every day , one by one, two houses and ukrainian people were burned нацыки здесь есть yes, we are all nationalists here, did the people resist, the residents came here, stopped and sent them back and became heroes, the novel was, is and will always be ukraine about the unbreakable cities of ukraine from the ukraine project in the documentary cycle de-occupation that saturdays at 11:10 on espresso join the communities with a ukrainian view of the world become a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel and this is access to exclusive content

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. he is alive and well. and most importantly, he did not become the victim of no crime, emotions in my eyes and barely calmed me down at work, it was just at work. when we talked with roman 's mother, she was waiting for her son to be brought home to ivano-frankivsk region from the zaporizhzhia region , where exactly the boy was found and under what circumstances is still unknown, because the woman herself she did not communicate with the child, but she told the story of her son 's disappearance. so, roman lived in the village of kulachkivtsi in the kolomiysk district of the region . returned that june, and on that very day nothing like that happened because i was at work. i work three shifts. i came home from the third shift and he was not there. it was him sometime this morning . the mother of the missing boy said that there were no prerequisites for her son's escape

last time . they talked the night before, on june 19, they did not quarrel, on the contrary, the woman says that her son was in a very high mood, yes, attention, of course, but i was at home , my mother was at home , i was going to work, he was also in a good mood. p.m. wishes, this is the whole movie, it didn't even happen that every child definitely wants to go somewhere. well, quarrels are not to be said about quarrels . well, it happens that it can make him angry, you know. he already wants to have his own opinion to argue . well, you would also like to know that someone insulted him or humiliated him. mrs. natalya says that her son loves to travel and adores ukrainian cities. he once lived and went on a kind of tour without permission, but then returned in two days. perhaps the woman suggests that he decided again.

go somewhere to travel, and since he knew that he would not be let go, he simply hid his idea, there were no notes . well, he said a lot that he would like kharkiv and odessa, and again , you yourself understand that no one would let him go to kharkiv, odessa, but he decided that he would he will go, because he is such a child of mine, if he planned it, he is sitting. i don’t know, the phone has been turned off since the first day, but he had with him a second phone number, the number of which he did not disclose to anyone, not even to me. passport, ukrainian passport, my documents were also taken away, i don’t know why, if the guy took a foreign passport with him, there was a logical assumption that he would try to cross the border , but this information was quickly checked and it was not confirmed, the border service said that he had not crossed the border at the moment, they called me and informed me that the last time he was seen on june 23, somewhere in the odesa region, the idea is there , i don't understand that in those directions he stood on the branches of uman izmail, such and such

branches of these cities, and he rested there too but since they didn't know at that time that he was a wanted person , well, he didn't do anything in the end, it is already known that the novel reached the entire zaporizhzhia region and that's where the law enforcement officers found him, so this story ended happy endo but unfortunately there are still many children and are still wanted, help find them, everyone can take just a minute of your time and go to the website of the magnolia children search service, here you can view all the photos of the missing, who knows, maybe you will recognize someone and eventually help to find them, we have created a resource thanks to which you you can report any crime against a child in any city at any time, just go to the site and report and we will launch all possible mechanisms for punishing

the criminal stopkramy.ua we are starting an information day on the tv channel espressova tari news hrystyna parubiy kasatni is working in the studio the ammunition will be in the ukrainian military, the united states of america has made a corresponding decision, although our side has given written guarantees that they will be used, we will change the cluster shells with minimal risk to the population will bypass the new aid package, they reported