[000:00:00;00] news in general well, we understand very well that this will not happen, because no matter what anyone says, we will do some conspiracy theory or some assumptions, even if i am the president of cardigan , he can propose it, i have no doubt that he will propose it, i have almost no doubt that it will be heard welcome, but i don't think that it will have any consequences, this is exactly this, this is exactly the question. on july 11-12 , the next nato summit will be held in vilnius, and everyone is actually waiting for the results on the eve of this , the ukrainian side said that we we are waiting for ukraine to become a member of the north atlantic alliance, jens stoltenberg said today that the leaders of the nato countries at this summit will approve a multi-year support package for ukraine that will bring it closer to the alliance, we will hear what

the secretary general of the north atlantic alliance said that the leaders of the alliance countries will agree on a package of three elements which will bring ukraine closer to nato , first, we will agree on a multi-year aid program to ensure full interoperability between the ukrainian armed forces and nato, and second, we will improve our political ties through the creation of the ukraine-nato council, and thirdly, i expect that the leaders of the alliance countries will confirm that ukraine will become a member of nato and will unite on how to bring ukraine closer to this goal. the north atlantic alliance guarantees the security of ukraine, this was the case with finland and sweden. why is no one talking about this? i think this is a matter of third-party agreements with these countries

, you understand. the ideal scenario is that we will combine it all into one, but the question is basically this question. let's say that it will actually work. this is how to force it with such a package solution, which is called, well, what does it mean that we will combine it, because you understand what the situation is, in fact, this is the question different, well, it's about security, and both. it's all about security and about helping ukraine, but the nato summit and the future of ukraine's membership in nato are one issue. individual states that agree to provide these guarantees. by the way, it would be the same in finland and sweden. it was nato members who talked about the fact that we are ready to actually support you. well, the vast majority of them were nato members, but they actually did it.

it was a voluntary initiative. that is, it was not a collective decision of nato, it was an individual initiative of those countries that expressed their support and promised finland and sweden that if there were any manifestations on the part of russia or others, they would send them help. actually, we now we conclude that we have one question, and that is what should be in the final statement of the alliance that ukraine should become a member of nato as soon as the active phase of hostilities ends . this should fundamentally not be a war, because a war is a state of war, it can continue for a long time the uncertainty of the absence of peace, but there may not be large-scale hostilities, so while there are no hostilities, this is the age of impossibility for us, and the second thing is, in fact, as soon as this happens , the consideration of the application for the accession of ukraine will begin too, and the third is within the framework of this council

nato of ukraine, which is actually being rebooted, reaches a higher level, uh, all the parameters of our membership must be carried out , because we once again heard certain things , let's put it this way. with corruption, we need to think about judicial reform , we will be reminded, well, it may be there . that it would be ideal for us to record in the final statement that nato does not object to the fact that certain member states of the alliance, under the terms of bilateral agreements with ukraine, can guarantee certain security guarantees that will be the parameters of this agreement until ukraine becomes a member of nato, that's it for me it seems that it would be quite positive for us, but in any case

, security guarantees are still history in nato, but it is also history outside nato, because these are specific clear agreements from each of the states that plans to provide such guarantees and how far with these guarantees is this or another state ready to go, because it is also necessary to understand that some of our overexcited partners will be there , the hungarians are present at the summit, maybe someone else will immediately start talking about the fact that we should not be involved. we do not want to fight with russia, and there will be such, and they just need to make it clear that there is now a question of security guarantees, and i don’t want hungary to do so. we are not saying that we already accept nato, but if france wants to do the usa, germany or britain, then let's talk with them specifically point by point about each and sign relevant agreements. perhaps at the summit we will hear about the parameters

of these agreements . that the united states of america supports the open door policy, but they say that ukraine must go through a mandatory negotiation process and mandatory fulfillment of certain requirements that are in the alliance, and this discussion should continue between the country and the alliance, at the same time, the president of lithuania always says that at the nato summit in vilnius, it will be possible to agree on such commitments to ukraine that will not disappoint ukraine as a result. the same thing , oleksandr, according to you, will affect the course of the russian-ukrainian war

er, how will they be affected at the front on putin's behavior on russia's behavior on what will happen next in the russian-ukrainian war well , you see, i'll just add that the president has already said and made another statement that lithuania can impose vetoes on the final statement if this will not correspond to the national interests, and there are certain questions for us here as well, because i am almost sure that now the national interests of ukraine and lithuania coincide in many ways. on the one hand, such a statement is encouraging, the first of the lithuanian president, and the second is such that, well, for some reason , it makes you think, but in the end, we will wait for it and then we will draw conclusions. and

as for the movie, the most important thing is er, the ultimatum of russia in december 2021, which they put forward to nato, that nato withdraw its presence to the limits that preceded 1997, no one is going to fulfill it. it is obvious, if only because the demands of the bucharest summit or the decision or the korean right there in 2008 about that that nato's doors are open for ukraine , they will be confirmed. i think that even in a better form than it was, at least we count on it and more progressive forms for us. so, no matter what , but nato rejects russia's ultimatum nato in fact, it doesn’t go, let’s say in this case, about e in russia, this is the first point, the second point is, of course, we expect and expect that on the sidelines of this summit there will be clarity regarding the acceleration of the provision of weapons to ukraine, which is needed, and this has a direct impact on the entry of e

-e war because the more and the faster we are provided with weapons from our partners, the more it has. well, that is not the most direct influence on what is happening, and i think that we would like to hear exactly eh well, let's say this about the prospects of providing f-16 about transfer to attacks from other types of weapons, this is what you understand about the subject, this is what will not give you this, you know, despondency, because, in particular, against the background of the budapest memorandum and other points , there is a somewhat skeptical attitude. some solutions, but for us it is important that they go into the objective plane, although at the same time we see that we are already being told and hinted at from the side of the united states that a simplified procedure is possible and will be for ukraine, but

a simplified procedure and the departure of the discoverers who is mandatory for everyone in the defense, security, political, legal spheres, there will be no exceptions, this is also for us to understand . i think that we can be reminded about it, but here is the objective i see things in that, uh, it should be clarity on weapons, and because russia's demands will be rejected. i think this is obvious. well, i think that the russians will not be satisfied in any case, because their main demand is that we remain a neutral state in general, and they constantly emphasize this. thank you, oleksandr, for conversation it was oleksandr musienko, a military expert, and i will say that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching live on youtube, please like this video, subscribe to our pages on social networks, i want to introduce another one of our guests - this is yuriy

gudymenko, junior sergeant of the armed forces of ukraine, commander of the sapper division , former leader of the democratic ax. i congratulate you , mr. yuriy, i would like to see you on our air . good evening. i don't want to. first of all, i want you congratulations on the release of your book, which is called history and wars, it is specially shown not for you on our tv viewers, and for those who want to see mr. yurii with this book with an autograph, you can visit on july 8 at 4:00 p.m. this is in kyiv, not in lviv, let me remind you once again, let's briefly tell you what kind of book this is, because this book is very well published, i have already looked through it, i have read a lot of things already on facebook in some posts, but obviously there are things that were not included in social networks which

were published only in this book. yes, it’s true . this is a collection . yes, in fact, they are. and it is built in chronological order from 2014 to 2023. that's what i wrote. but in 2014 , uh, two texts were taken out of kinology, they are the last uh, because there are two texts from 2014 that i wrote when i was a resident native zaporizhzhia and they have actually been warning us since march 2014 that russia is going to elect the zaporizhzhia region, russia

is going to leave crimea, russia is going to kyiv, and it's not that i want to get the status of a prophet there or something else. it's absolutely not mine and i just wanted with this to show that there are things that could probably have been prevented and that could have been calculated even before the great war and for me as a native of zaporizhia , zaporizhia can be my hometown. would be to make sure that this did not happen. let's return now to what is happening in the world politics of relations with ukraine and the promises of the united states of america dan to give us cluster munitions, because you are a person who is an er-e sapper and a person who understands

cluster munitions probably a lot more than me and our tv viewers, the united states of america promises to provide us with cluster munitions, and this is very good, in the fight against the russian invaders, the russians use cluster munitions, but some of our partners, in particular, from german foreign minister anna lena berbuk says that there is no need to supply ukraine with these munitions, what ukraine gains and what it loses by receiving these munitions from the point of view of the future demining of those territories where these munitions will be used , see from the point of view of future demining from this point of view a we will get from three to four five , as far as i remember

, this is for this particular model of ammunition. they will be torn from ammunition, but i personally believe that, in this situation , there is no good choice, that is, it will be possible not to receive cassette tapes, tens of hundreds of fighters , where ordinary artillery will work, and we have problems with them in connection with yuri gudymenko, please redial e-e, we are waiting for the decision of the united states of america itself regarding the allocation of 800 million dollars in aid to the country, among other things. there will also be

cluster munitions. munitions in ukraine will be felt for many years , the ukrainian authorities should not rush to make a decision regarding their use during hostilities, i will quote what they mean by bell, the leaders of ukraine should compare the benefits of these weapons , which can provide a decisive advantage in this war, with the risks that they will inherit when they will have to clear the shells from the shells , the territory that did not explode means the shells, we are in touch again good mr. yurii so, let's continue about cluster munitions, because it is very important to explain to our tv viewers , look, uh, some percentage of cluster munitions will definitely not explode, this is a fact, uh, in soviet munitions, in russian munitions , this percentage is much higher than those that we can

now the americans have much more to hand over and it really doesn’t break really then the sappers have to work with them eh and it’s usually difficult but it’s much harder eh hm eh to deal with russian fortifications that have to be stormed eh which may not take plus or minus or spend a huge amount of ammunition of course artillery and of course mortars and therefore cassettes no ammunition yes okay some percentage of them will not be realized but in my opinion we will lose much less people uh ah when using them than without using them i.e. an absolutely ideal model that has no losses, i don’t know any problems for the environment , no e-e losses among the civilian population , there is no such simple choice, there is no choice between greater e-e losses of ukrainian lives

and less, we will lose ukrainian lives and full of course, the russian federation, which came to our earth with a war, is responsible for this, and therefore i would advise humans straits watch and all other human rights organizations not to tell us about how to properly liberate our land from the occupiers, but to pay attention to the fact that everything is happening thanks to whom these battles, all these victims , all these destruction of human shields, volodymyr zelenskyi and yuryu just a few days ago announced that the counteroffensive has slowed down because western weapons are coming slowly, there is also a study by the kielsko institute of the world of the economy, according to some united states of america, germany, great britain provided ukraine with much less weapons than promised, and the declared amount of new aid is decreasing, according to your opinion, is it a deliberate step

, is the supply of weapons decreasing, or is it just that the world is not keeping up with the pace of the ukrainian army and from how the ukrainian army uses these weapons, because this war is really the biggest war after the second world war on the european continent. i think it would be wrong to speak in general, and because all the countries of the west have completely different different interests and different stockpiles of weapons, by the way, and the weapons themselves have, well, are very different and they are given to us or not given to us in what quantity for completely different reasons, that is, linguistically speaking, with the f-16 aircraft, which has been discussed for quite some time, the decision to provide them it seems to me that it is purely political, because there are quite a lot of them with some types of ammunition, for example, the situation is different in the west, there are not so many of them, they did not prepare for such a war at all, and therefore

their production and supply to us are delayed not because of political reasons. there is even a desire to transfer a for purely physical reasons, they don't have time to produce them in sufficient quantity , and they don't have a stock. that's why, well, really, our war is absolute historical nonsense for the west, because in their picture of the world, there are more of them to be no, well, no , it shouldn't be , yes. they were preparing to fight with underdeveloped countries, with terrorists, with people in which with heavy weapons. e against a highly developed country, they are very well

, it turned out that a significant part of their defense industry it is simply not physically ready for this. they don’t have technology, but they don’t have the technology, but they don’t have the volume. and in general, the country of europe in general, for the last decade there , in fact, carried out a policy of disarmament and reducing defense spending, and now in an emergency, they are all, on the contrary , starting to correct their mistakes to wind up volumes in preparation for the future and it is exactly this format, by the way, because obviously no one could even imagine that there would be a war of exactly this scale, the biggest war in the last tens of years in the last

for decades, putin has been talking about the problems that some countries are creating, but they will overcome these problems. well, at least that's what he said at the meeting of the members of the council of security. countries in relation to russia, so far nothing good has happened from the point of view of achieving the goals that are not set on the russian administration, i am sure nothing will work, but against this background, mr. yuriy, there have been more secret negotiations, as it turned out, lavrov with former officials of the united states of america, in particular, this was reported by mbc news with reference to its sources, e.e. moscow of course denies that lavrov is conducting some kind of separate negotiations there, but purely theoretically, can moscow now enter into some behind-the-scenes

negotiations about how macron once said with a face that needs to be saved to get out of this war , are they ready? collapse of russia, bring the economy to ruin, well, do everything well, but don't give in to your ego, eh. i think that many russian officials have a completely different view of this than putin's, because it seems to me that putin eh, in this regard, will come to the end of him there is nowhere to run away well, he has nowhere to act in fact and on the one hand he has internal tension, on the other hand he has a war that the general will lose sooner or later eh but i am absolutely sure that moscow can conduct separate

negotiations eh i honestly don't i think that uh these are negotiations, well, on some serious level, uh, because well, i don’t see many people who want to communicate with lavrov, uh, at all . well, to be honest, uh, i also don’t see the possibility in the united states , hmm, to hear something from russia or to offer something to russia, uh, except immediate withdrawal from the entire occupied territory of ukraine. lavrov obviously does not want to hear this, cannot, and will not, but secret negotiations. of course, russia very much wants to hold very much and drawing historical parallels - well, i don't think that we will see a flight of laurel as we once saw coming to britain, well, we saw it. okay, we saw it in the history textbooks. i'm not that old, after all. but uh, they dream about it

. i'm sure that a large number of uh, people from around the point dream of separate negotiations because they don't want to. drowning together with putin, they will try to make it so that it is they, their families, their entourage who somehow got out of the sanctions, got out of the water dry, but i don't think that they have anything to offer now , the editor of a dictatorial country, er, only a dictator can offer something and all the others only the executors, well, there is another dictator in the north of ukraine, oleksandr lukashenko, speaking to journalists yesterday, said that he can be a mediator in the so-called peace talks between ukraine and russia, if of course he is asked, although his status as a co-aggressor is already behind him already established, no one will deny this

. at the same time, literally today, the representatives of lithuania, poland and latvia wrote a letter to nato about the threats from minsk from minsk because tactical nuclear weapons are being moved poland , lithuania , and latvia pose a logical question to the north atlantic alliance . is it necessary to revise this concept of nuclear deterrence and do something already ? nuclear site e for launching missiles in belarus, will it lead to an even greater strengthening of nato's position in eastern europe? well, expansion, well, expansion - this already concerns ukraine in the context of the vilnius

summit, that is, whether or not these steps will be the increase that he is now demonstrating will then lead to the fact that he will get the absolutely opposite effect, that is, not the borders of 1997, but the borders of 2024, but already in the borders of ukraine, nato. i think that this is absolutely, well, well , putin got in a situation in which everyone's blood only makes him worse. this fact. and now this room is absolutely useless from the point of view of strategy, logic and even the very principles of using nuclear weapons. europeans because this has not happened for a long time and europeans are afraid of a nuclear war, this is a fact. all people are afraid of a nuclear war, but if

putin thinks that he will thereby make them more pliable, it is not true because he is not in the eyes of the world the rightful successor of the all-powerful ussr, now he is in in the eyes of the world, a loser who started a war against someone who violated all the rules of the civilized world should be punished for this and takes his steps already in this status, this does not strengthen him in a negotiating position, it actually strengthens our race position because of course ukraine will be in nato and it will be there not only of course thanks to the fact that putin somehow did not move the premises there because nato at this stage of the development of human civilization there is actually no sense without ukraine well, simply it makes no sense because it is ukraine that is doing what nato

was once created for, in order to restrain the appetites of moscow and the advancement of moscow , the military advancement of moscow towards europe, and of course ukraine will be nato because without nato, well, without ukraine, nato - it's just abbreviation thank you mr. yuriy this was yuriy gudymenko, the youngest member of the armed forces of ukraine, the commander of the sapper division, the former leader of dem axes, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live, please like this videos, subscribe to our social networks, you can become our sponsor , a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel, you can now see a qr-code by clicking on which you can join our sponsor club and help us develop the youtube channel , we will be grateful for any help, also read our news on the espresso tv website

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