[000:00:00;00] chspresso and invitations, experts based on facts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events, you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch saturday's political club, that saturdays are not with the press, vasyl's big broadcast in winter , two hours of airtime, two hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and what is the world like? 2 hours to keep abreast of economic news and new sports

. two hours in the company of favorite presenters. vasyl zimi's broadcast is a project for intelligent and caring people in the evening. he is the most expressive in his politics. he is always on the side of ukraine, often harsh and categorical. whose husband , about whom more than one documentary and feature film was shot, nobel peace prize laureate and president of poland in 1990-95, lech wałęsa , good afternoon, mr. president, icon yes and yellow would be a very beautiful shirt for me, i see a blue-yellow badge and i want to thank

you for supporting ukraine, you are a worthy beast , you actually support our country. the euv in the jw planes made a bet on this. were you convinced that russia would fight with ukraine and why are you so unlucky, sir, and why in the end did you not succeed in convincing eu politicians and nato members that this should be done ? i postponed the decision on his second presidential term and he lost the elections, it all complicated the situation, but i couldn't do it earlier because the west is true to everyone, the west, you were not ready for such a decision , you are not ready for such a decision well, it is a problem to accept

poland into nato, the eu, and what if i i also told them to accept ukraine and belarus in this situation, they were not ready to swallow it, and that is why i said yes and step by step, they want to join with hungary now, and already during the second term of office i am forcing them to accept ukraine and belarus, but i did not have a second term how do you currently assess ukraine's chances, what can we as a country hope for from the summit in vilnius, i am a practitioner in all areas. so, if we talk about nato, then ukraine is the best candidate for nato, along with the fact that if we are talking about the eu, things are a little worse here, there economic conditions must be met so, the direction is correct, but the economic conditions must be planned better. i am doing everything and will do everything

in order to speed up the moment and changes . meanwhile, i remember that if it were not for the escape of poland, i would be in the place of ukraine, the russians were in poland and not in ukraine, i know this. i am fully convinced of this and that is why i appeal and do everything myself. because i know that poland was able to fight and ukraine was not able. well, it was not possible to live with the don, and that is why this terrible war is going on in this bunch taras after of his failed rebellion lives in belarus, at least that is what they say he lives there, and not only he, but also his wagnerian poles, in the meantime, are strengthening their borders, to what extent do you think poland and the polish army

are ready for russian soldiers to enter poland the territory of the poles, how will that general try, is he dating, how will he get retribution from the poles, but i am 100% convinced that he will not try because i know that there is no chance well, unless it is a planned world war that they have to leave in order for russia to use all its means if there are such plans, then the world must prepare for such plans . and what are they saying in poland now about the war in ukraine, what are the moods among the people , we know very well that there has never been a more suitable situation for making peace with russia putin made a mistake by mobilizing the entire developed world against himself. i wanted to restore order with russia when we collapsed the soviet union . but it was too early. now 40 years have passed since then. i am more ready and we can

help russia change the political system. this is not putin, this is not stalin. the political system is caused by the fact that such elections are held, and for that, and for the sake of russia, we must use propaganda to prove to every russian that tomorrow putin will take him in the army , the day after tomorrow he will die, and today he died his son, his daughter, because putin is in the military, he will take it not so much with tanks , not so much with missiles, but with propaganda, we must convince every russian that for his life and his happiness and for ours, it is also necessary for russia to change the political system , the country's president cannot have more than two cadences of 5 years because he will build such a gang as putin was building now and before stalin well, but putin uh... then after the failed rebellion prigozhina saw that he was losing power and he

was very afraid of that and was afraid of the face of things, so the west , meanwhile, is afraid that the events that happened in russia recently may cause its disintegration, disintegration on the outside, but the pieces or what do you think, are western politicians ready for the fact that russia will disintegrate and is the scenario in the end better or worse for russia or better for the west, better for the report for all of us, i was the first at this time to determine two ways to change russia , one is to change the political system that i was talking about. well, the second is for the people that the russians conquered by force, as they are now trying to do with ukraine, and with russification, they are not against russia, but

they must find their own identity. they can stay with russia, but they have to say that our coffins are there, you conquered us, you conquered us, but we also want to have our own, our own territory, we will be in russia, but we must have our own cool propaganda to outline the situation, not to be afraid that the russian peoples will now start a struggle for their independence, independence which cannot change russia, but find what is their age, or will they hear everything you are talking about, because even on those films in rostov, when prigozhin was going to moscow, in rostov, the video or how the people

it was possible to notice how passers-by support the wagners, they consider them almost heroes, although they are actually murderers, criminals, as ordinary as a bucket of water, but people give them food and water , they say, “thank you for the support, what with russian society, they are spiraling into the people who they cheer for those who kill others for money, why do they consider those who come with war to another country as heroes dear ms. muvi , the current state of affairs is how russian society was brought up in this way, and that is why it is necessary to remove that education and beliefs and this takes some time, they must be converted to civilization, as the entire western world has been done, but this is not a matter of one day, today's state of affairs you have outlined well now and we must change it

calmly, because the development of civilization indicates that we must move to a higher organization, because to the continents and even to globalization, even with the divided old times , it is difficult to unite, it is difficult to understand, we have to get rid of many things, and good people must be acquired, this is the way things are , a full-scale invasion has been going on for a year and a half year, we hear in the news that people in the west are beginning to get tired of the war in ukraine, do you feel this way and will it decrease? do you observe this fatigue in your compatriots, what do they say in poland now that living in our generation is what fate requires of us in view of technical development and even the pandemic of reorientation from countries to continents and globalization, but globalization

. how to do it, because development requires it. when such a difference in upbringing in the economy is a harm that we have caused ourselves, how to do it, it is critically necessary, and that is why it is the means. instructions for today but in order to change and go in the direction of the development of civilization until the end of the 20th century, for the most part, all countries did the same as russia. so simply , the territories where the end of the 20th century we see that there are two concepts of russian increasing the power of nuclear-powered missiles of a friend through the eu through nato peaceful democratic, who wants to increase it, the question arises whether this concept will win already this time after putin's mistake or we

will wait a little longer for something that corresponds to logic a-a this is a joke where ukraine will not end, what will happen if ukraine does not end the war this year and next year already without the help of our solar ones without the help of our allies we will not win it, so we need the support of the sparcha eh at home it will grow that then will ukraine cope or yes ukraine of choice must stand on the ukrainian side because this is the side of development the development of the world requires that we they did not act with tanks on rockets, but they made their choice voluntarily in a peaceful way, that is why we ask the question about the time, the time when it will happen and the price we will pay for it. and it is inevitable

sooner or later russia in this state finished when it will happen but what price will we pay for this for the development of this change, what should we as ukrainians do perhaps you have some advice so that the world does not forget about the war, about the fact that we lose our loved ones in it every day, i offered it a long time ago, but she did not understand me when one volunteered for help, but i volunteered not to run with a machine gun, novelists are joining other generals , other leaders are joining in helping your president

, we will build international solidarity the solidarity of the world thanks to a wise organization, the world must take you in that physical world solidarity and now i'm tired a little more noticeably and how would you assess how ukrainian-polish relations have changed during this difficult period that ukraine is going through ? th century, there were interests of countries and regions, and wars brought certain connections to their country, technical development went further and says that a country is not enough. we must

build continents and globalization in certain topics in connection with this. there, we interpret it as the development that took place at the same time, excluding from the measure of warfare in war, but there was no experience, then now we would have fought more, so that in the development of the world, all those events were inevitable and necessary in order to draw conclusions and build a better the future, how should we perceive our past, our experience and conclusions made, and thanks to those conclusions, today we are becoming better than the previous ukrainian-polish generation, history always has some order

july 11 will be the next anniversary of volynska tragedies and presenter i would like to know what is being said in poland today about those difficult pages of our common history, taras , will elections be held in poland in the fall, or will any of the politicians use this question again , that in the development of civilization and the world, such things were inevitable, let's understand it finally we moved into that period because it was impossible to jump over it, it is obvious that we caused disaster and destroyed life, this is all true, but that was due to the development of the world, he also paid for the second world war with his father and is now talking to by prisoners of war and others, because these are other prisoners of war and other challenges, these challenges are no longer for

the state, not for the country, but for the continent and for globalization, so interests and development determine behavior , so practically it can be seen. you have to remember everything about this, but put it in the framework of the development of world civilization, it 's new, it's not like that, but i agree. but maybe you saw that not so long ago, the spokesman of the polish mfa , now the former spokesman of the polish mfa, lukasz i sina stated that president volodymyr zelenskyy should apologize for the wrongdoing. there is too much in the memory of that wrong , it must be done. these were mistakes. there were wrongs, that's all true, but it should be put into the context of the development of the world .

we wouldn't have had that bad experience in practice , i see it and in practice it is like that, we can do it, we can fight on, we can either or develop and follow the spirit of the times and development , of course no one will bring back life no one will bring back what has been done it's true but this there is a price for the development of civilization. on may 13, you were one of the signatories of the lviv declaration , a document about the need to create a ukrainian center of freedom and democracy in lviv on the model of the european solidarity center in gdańsk. what will this initiative center do ? conclusions for the future in such a concept. i support initiatives of this type , i admit that for me and for many

ukrainians, poland is an example of what ukraine should be, how it should join the european union how should ukrainians behave, how should they treat their country taras poland is going through a crisis at the beginning of june, a lot of people came out for protests, i'm very flattered, what is happening to democracy in your country in poland, if it were panned to pierre, what is happening in poland right now is not in europe is the right thing in the world because we are moving from the interests of countries to the larger formations of the country

. the age of intelligence and information globalization has appeared . and we found ourselves in the middle. time is the era of words and discussions , what is the world, what is poland, what is ukraine should look like. find in the discussions and it's good that there are these extremes because others will wake up and start looking for better solutions and wiser proposals i hope that all this will lead to a better solution if there was no limit to bad decisions then yours would have reached before the appearance of good ones why are the poles shouting on the street that they were disturbed because in this construction the proposal that we have chosen is the separation of powers that

is written in the constitution, this is all demagogues and populists are trying to destroy and as an easy example the theorists who are in power in poland believe that if something gets in the way, it should be thrown out but if they throw away one today, then tomorrow they will have to throw away the next one, so they throw it out one by one and it remains a dictatorship instead, such practices as they say no , nothing can be thrown away, only adapted so that it suited the present, so that it did not hinder, did not complicate, but built together, and this is the difference between theoretical and practical . theoreticians throw it out, and practitioners adjust it so that it fits. it helped to create an understanding of how the poles will vote this fall. they promise they deceive and this is currently winning during

the victory of the victory of rude behavior it may last a little longer but i hope that it will finally end and i am doing everything to make it end as soon as possible because this is not necessary losses are unnecessary enemies because enemies are being made here and in connection with that it will not pay off for poland, that is why i am trying to speed it up, but you cannot speed up certain things very much and can russia take advantage of what is happening between polish political forces, for example against ukraine and even if russia will win in the old style, then in the new she will lose, or the future belongs to freedom and democracy, because technical development and mobile phones , the internet says that such behavior as in russia is not for these times, it is early what to play then again a matter of time and the price we will pay for

what is logical, normal and correct vinnytsia poland's policy towards ukraine after the autumn elections because, as i have already said, technical development requires us to erase borders so that we build new things in the economy and in needs necessary and not artificial for common good interests, and therefore we will open ourselves to this, the technical development of civilization prompts and my last question how bad does it look what what are you saying last what are you scaring me last in our country but once every 10 years we talk to you, so i think that in another 10 years we will do the next interview when ukraine already wins oh you have to hurry you know i am already 80 years old but i wish you many more years and good health

and in ukraine i wish victory so that then you and i could talk about what our country's path to the european union is and whether we are guilty of being satisfied that there is no free poland without a free ukraine, and to make it clear how and according to them, what kind of victory do you see for ukraine, how should it be after overcoming the enemy, the enemy is happening friends i when i fought with the soviet union, we managed to do it and i became a friend of russia, today i am its enemy because i am on the side of ukraine because i say how to fight against russia, that is why i am an enemy , but in fact i am a friend of the russians, so previously they were good people who fell into a bad system they got that system and they have to behave that way. that is why we need to help them change the system and they will thank us, then the ukrainians

will also be friends with the russians in the future, we will share what to do with the troubles and losses that russia has caused, which it must restore, and later the development of the world will show that we are doomed to each other, we will not move russia anywhere, we will not bring ukraine, it means it is better to live in peace and in harmony than to fight and kill each other. centenary thank you very much i accept your invitation once again i want to thank you for your support of ukraine and also for the honor to all poles that they stand by our country this was oleg wałęsa the president of poland in 90-95 and a nobel

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how did you even say all this news to distract yourself from the discussion of such and such different planes of our ukrainian reality, let's pay tribute to our railwaymen ukrzaliznytsia and all its employees, these capacities that it has at its disposal actually played a very important role in the beginning of a large-scale invasion and continue to play now and uh, we are very grateful to all the employees of ukrzaliznytsia, this is an enterprise that lost a lot of its employees precisely because of the attacks of the russian federation. there are certain events that cause a heated discussion in ukrainian society , such as women's compartments or something else like paramilitary guards, and some ukrainian trains are returning, we will talk about this and not only