[000:00:00;00] only they want to compete. that is, it all means to show that china and the usa , despite the fact that they have already moved into such a regime of great power competitiveness, but they still try to preserve these economic and trade ties. although i emphasize that american business yes, he still wants to get into this delicious chinese market, but they no longer see china as such a single place for their investment , because they are already looking at what can involve production, both in india and in bangladesh and vietnam and in other countries of east and south-east asia, and this is also for the cinema. well, it is a little unpleasant, and this is if you answer your question: what will happen between the usa and china ?

i think that in the future we will see a meeting between biden and zimpin at the apec summit. it seems to be in the fall. it will be in november in san francisco. but will the structure of their relationship change ? competitors, interdependence, they will be there where you can trade, but where if they compete, they will leave this enmity, for example, it is technology , it is geopolitical influence, it is a struggle with regional leadership, and so on, that is , they will still remain competitors, although in some gaps they will cooperate and cooperate on your opinion , did the participants believe what happened to putin, who told this was his first international speech of this kind after the prigozhin rebellion, he talked about

the consolidation of the russian people, about how they worked beautifully and clearly against this rebellion, who are they united? how are they? the economy is developing steadily and blah blah blah. the participants believed it . what do you think? well, i think that, especially among the chinese, they understand that all this is rhetoric . and the publication of what is desired for reality , that is, as the chinese say, dress up a tree, don’t dress up a dry tree, and i think that they perfectly understand the situation in the middle of the russian federation , especially, again, this is china, the code for which, after all, now cooperation with russia the federation is very important in the context of the consumption of this competition of the usa as well as the economic pressure that washington is trying to exert on beijing, and i think that in view of this, it is china that is very closely analyzing the domestic political situation in the russian federation, considering that it is interested.

for us to hear, but he is interested in a certain stability in the middle of the russian federation, and did he believe the russian leader? i think not, because there are a lot of lobbyists and insiders who they are given information, but the important question is whether it will shake . let's say this rebellion, this instability of the russian federation internally . let's say certain risks. they take into account and see how it will develop. this is the internal political dynamics in the russian federation, taking into account this, in general, this is not a pleasant situation inside the russian federation. thank you, thank you. mr. petar petro shevchenko analyst spirals to the international

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of the week every saturday at 21:00 on espresso ukraine we continue our saturday political club anzhelika sezonka vitaliy will comment on the hottest events of the week, in fact, the events that we will now start discussing it is ahead. and our euro-atlantic integration is important to us not only this week, but for many years, unfortunately, we are not holding back even this political decision to join nato. however , the expectations are already not very positive ms. vitalya, you, like me, do not have any special expectations , because it is absolutely obvious to me that the freedoms themselves 15 - this is definitely not the kind of event that can lead to an invitation to ukraine for donations, and in principle , no one even relied on this from the supporters of euro-atlantic integration ukraine has a different situation, it is connected with the fact that

the summit should develop logistics in the atlantic integration of ukraine. this logistics can be presented to ukraine and nato. therefore, we can talk about the fact that at the washington nato summit , ukraine can receive an invitation to the north atlantic alliance, and what is this logistics, logistics are certain steps that must be taken by both ukraine and nato countries to make this invitation possible these can be different steps, and these can be steps of a political nature, not only of a military nature, because these steps can themselves include the ascertainment of those moments that can make ukraine's accession to nato a reality well, let's say, can ukraine join nato during the war, we all say that we can't. and can ukraine receive an invitation to nato

during the war? that's another question. it is possible that a consensus can be reached regarding the invitation. and can ukraine receive security guarantees for the time being will not join us, this is also a conversation that can lead to some kind of conse- some work of the parties . and if it is possible to get a guarantee of security, then what should they look like in the conditions when ukraine remains in conflict with the russian federation, do you think that the answers to will these questions be given to us in vilnius or will they begin to be discussed, that is, when politicians say that the security guarantee can be extended to the territory that is under the control of the legitimate ukrainian government and that does not meet russia's claims, let's say this is the logic of the discussion. it may not satisfy us

but it can satisfy the nato member states that do not want their own conflict with russia and this may not be the fifth article. and these may be security guarantees for ukraine from the nato member states for the time being until there is no ukrainian membership in nato again, when can ukrainian membership in nato take place, how far will the members of nato be ready to accept ukraine into their membership , the federal chancellor shultz said about this, by the way, that a country that joins nato and the european union does not have of territorial claims, the only excluded contribution of the european union was kiper, who undertook to hold a referendum on unification with the turkish part of the island, and

during this referendum citizens of the republic cyprus refused the unification, the citizens of the turkish e-e part of the island agreed to the unification that was such i would say a blow by a permutation of the european union and all the minds that i don't know if anyone is ready to repeat it once again but there is another interesting precedent which also germany itself could use it, because the federal republic of germany became a member of nato, and the federal republic of germany regarded the german democratic republic as an integral part of its territory, but never raised the question of what to drink. no - the reunification of germany can be achieved by military means exclusively - legally there were articles of the constitution of the federal republic of germany that provided for the incorporation of the territory of east germany in the event that the population of the territory of east germany expressed a desire for such

a reunification. by the way, it happened, but at the same time, the federal the republic of germany , which allegedly had claims to a neighboring state, was a member of nato on its territory, that is, many different mechanisms can be found in international law that already existed in the past. too, because these can be unpleasant questions. let's say we are ready to accept you into nato, you have not released. these are the territories and you must declare by signature that you will be united, that your territory can only be reunited politically, that you do not carry out any military operations actions on e-e on the annexation of this territory which and we also consider to be your territory and if you carry out these actions on your actions no and on the answer to the most widespread friday over then you can fight i don't know received maybe i don't

know the status of the country nato members on this territories that we have at least the functions that ukrainian society must agree to the fact that we will not win back our territories in exchange for the status of a nato member, you look at what ukrainian politician would sign such an agreement . i do not see such a politician on the record. did not liberate all our territories, so it may be that we will liberate all the same, i hope that the counteroffensive will end successfully. and we have hopes, but many ukrainian politicians have already said that in order to liberate all ukrainian territory may require not one, but several such offensives, it is true. well, i am only starting from this, and then there is another moment that is no less difficult. and if we liberate our entire territory, and the russian federation claims that we occupied part of the territory of russia, crimea , donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia

region which are within the constitutional borders of the russian federation, this means that the fifth article of nato extends to this region, does it not mean that if these regions are claimed by the russian federation and we do not have of a political agreement with the russian federation. and there is a reality, a real dispute over territories and large ones. no one admits that russia has recorded territories there, everyone admits that the question is not who or why the west does not recognize the territories as russian. the question is that for the west, from the point of view of its own security, it was b it is important that russia itself does not recognize these territories as russian. and if it is recognized as a russian territory, then with this logic, we can not refuse , the question arises because it is condemned in this territory

the fifth inpatient well, they won't want it because this is a question and no one will ever tell us any leaders of any nato member country , you know, in order to come to nato, you have to give up your own territories, some of which , besides, we control it we are talking about success, what does it look like, you know. let's leave these territories to the russians and come in. it may be that such a policy does not exist in the west either. well, then what is better to say, it is better to keep us as a country at the door until we find a political agreement with to russia, tell us, you know, you will first come to an agreement and then we can immediately accept from you, that is, such a position may also exist , there may be many options, and i say once again that it is not the accession that is important for us, but these security guarantees for us. it is important that the russian federation was aware of the riskiness of the next, he is with us despite the fact that this war is not over

yet and of course we are saying maybe we are entering the situation of the last 500 days and maybe this is not the last but before the last the quality is the same no one knows no one knows how long it will continue no one knows how intense the war will be for us, because if we say that russia has lost half of its military potential , that it will replenish it quite sluggishly, then this means that russia can in any case enter a war of such intensity as was seen in 2022 and 2023 there are still two years there at the most and then it can wage a low-intensity war, but it will still be a war, it will not mean peace, and as we can see, russia is not on the path of finding political solutions, that is what we are talking about today in c6 e-e eighth february 5008, july 500th day of the war, what are we talking about, that russia is leaving

the grain agreement. this was the only real diplomatic agreement of these 17 months, and russia does not want to extend it, but on the contrary to cancel it. last summer, you and i sat in the same studio and discussed how russia grain water comes out and it was enough for a week, that’s true. i’m not saying that now it might not be like that, it might also be, but there is another question that russia absolutely does not gravitate towards any realistic political agreements , although there is no success on the front, this is also interesting russia does not need to have success on the front for this, for this russia just needs to continue the war, well, there are less weapons , you also talk about this, but they are buying all the shaheds of uranium because it is a low- intensity war, you can not have any success on the front, you can keep some not to hold positions, regularly bombard ukrainian cities with these cheap drones, inflict some uh-uh

such a real uh-huh attack on the infrastructure on people and from time to time, not often release the caliber wherever it will be possible to fly, that's how it is was recently in lviv is it a war or not a war here is no success on the front here russia is leaving some positions from somewhere it is coming out from somewhere it is not coming out at this time there is permanent missile fire you are closed air traffic is closed this is a war because is it innocent and if there are no major actions on in the theater of hostilities, we get used to this as an everyday thing, well, people die, but for the west, it will not be such a war , it may not be such a war for us, because fewer people may die, but it does not provide security, that is another story there is no security and stability, there is no investment, all political decisions are postponed because it is euro-atlantic integration. well, how are we going to take you somewhere now? this means that

after the first caliber strike on the first one from your city, we have to respond. and we do not want to get involved in a conflict with russia wait, we can join the european union , let's let the war end, because we still can't provide you with any investments, reconstruction, yes, reconstruction can even begin during the war, there may be insurance, some uh, solutions for the company, but these buildings can also be destroyed at any moment, they can be, and therefore they will most likely be concentrated in the western and central regions, but as we can see , there are no safe places anymore. their missiles unfortunately, well, i'm just saying that everything doesn't look abnormal anyway. it's abnormal, and there is an important question here. it's the most important thing. and how to really end the war if russia doesn't want

to end it? what russia has to do in 500 days has in fact a demonstration of the unprofessionalism of its army. it has a demonstration of the unprofessionalism of its political leadership, which thought that it could achieve a blitzkrieg and destroy ukraine in three days. for its oil, can you imagine 18 months ago , they were talking about the northern stream-2, so it was supposed to end there, it seems that several kilometers were not completed, they were working well, then they completed it , but when we talked about it, there were several kilometers and everything was built, all that remained was to certify it. and we would have lost gas for it, and now all this is about something that never happened at all. that is why it is a strange situation, but it is on the one hand, on the other hand

, well, russia is selling energy to asian countries , the profit has decreased somewhere in woe betide, but it is doubled, but it is still huge, it allows to finance the economy that russia has today, ukraine is destabilized by the war and continues to destabilize the west. well, not in a simple situation, because the number of votes that say that it is necessary to stay away from this , the aggravation is increasing and the further it goes on, the longer it will be, the more right-wing populist parties are starting to gain momentum, we said that this is a sociological survey in germany. yielding only to the christian democratic union and even the christian energy union, it lags behind by 3%. and already representatives of this party are beginning

to head local authorities or even 18 months ago, they could not have imagined, so this is already the result that putin is counting on, and the right populists are now already at the university in finland, in the swedish government, they can get into the government of spain after the next parliamentary elections . different beliefs, but the italian government is headed by the leader of such a provocative polish party , but she is an irreconcilable opponent of putin , but this is simply because the kremlin somehow missed these forces, you know why we, she will be frank on the fascist side, that is, the people who came from the frankly fascist camp, and putin tried to establish connections, including from finance, with people with whom he is with whom they could not tell him that how is it that you finance those who i like in whom there was salt

and here is salvini, both of these parties are in the italian government, they are not fascists, but they are obviously sympathizers of the kremlin, they were before the war, we don't know what the level of relations would be now if salvini had been the prime minister of italy in america, he had not died and would have continued to act, that is it was just lucky, but these are all the rules of populist parties, they have a better reputation, you are already speaking with fear and what will happen if the right-wing populists come to power in slovakia, we will have another hungary in the european union and what will happen if the right-wing populists are partners in the government coalition poland, what will polish-ukrainian relations look like if there is such a government and it is only from central europe and when we look at it with you. for us it is just such a theory when you look at it through putin's eyes, i think well, well, we just need to give it more time

wait a year, well, two years and everything will change. yes, the geopolitical situation is changing a lot, they may not find a strong candidate who can lose the elections, the president of france will be maria lipin, and the president is almost brics , just a good hop and this is what putin can count on as to save himself, therefore, he can tell his all these boys , the boys are not drifters, we just have to wait. this is just a temporary situation, we will not go to the elections, and they will all have to defend their opportunities in a state of economic crisis in a state unemployment is in a state when people are afraid of war. and if we really close the grain agreement now, and the migration crisis is a global cock, we will wipe everyone out, and that is also enough, a logical forecast would say that is why i say that, in principle, returning to

the vyshynsky tonafta itself. i believe that the north atlantic treaty organization should end this war as soon as possible, this war creates almost invisible cracks like on glass, not only here in ukraine, where people may not notice these cracks simply because our economy lives at the expense of the west. creates cracks in the very west and now they are coming and you can already see them and there are already many of them small, they are thin, you like me, some alternative candidate for germany won the election in some federal district where 0.2% of the population lives, these are all little things , but that's it it consists of those small cracks this is the situation when this glass building is bach and suddenly there is nothing and it concerns the united states it concerns the european union it concerns great britain or great britain of course

it is such an important and effective ally ukraine, but it is in a deep crisis, well, this is also a consequence of brexit, of course, but one way or another, everything that is happening in the world now also affects its future possibilities. the united states is in a situation where it is forced to create several alliances at once because it is convinced that russia still cannot shake their power and change the world order, even if ukraine was occupied by russia, the gross national product of russia would still be less than the gross national product of italy together with ukraine we are not talking without ukraine, we are talking about russia , which won. that is, it is still nothing, but china is something, it is a country that has the strength to

change the order that developed in the world after the second world war, and that is why the americans are trying to create a union with india and australia there. with the philippines, there are already so many formats that you can't even have time to watch them all. president joe biden was supposed to go to papua . the new guy of the war. well, he just didn't go because he had a debt crisis . he went to entel. that surely the war is now an american base that should correspond to the chinese base on the solomon islands. who would have thought that we would even discuss what is happening on a more planned basis and in the solomon islands that the president of the united states will plan a visit there , it is so far away for us, it is so simple now this is what the world looks like, the rivalry in the pacific ocean is huge, the world is pregnant with possible conflicts , the thai strait, which in principle will stop

the world economy like no coronavirus did not stop it because if the production of chipi is blocked, you can say goodbye to the entire main national product of developed countries, which is 5. well, that’s why. by the way, biden met nare-modi in such a way that he prepared a vegetarian menu for him and invited special chefs to the white house to to make this dinner menu for the rendition ceremony, the list of guests was specially selected , it was as if a king would be received because there is a huge temptation to relocate a huge number of entrepreneurs who are currently working in the prc to india and now i would say so, you know this card is such a trump card. i would say that the action is blocking you even on emotions. biden does not have everyone who is friendly with those with whom he will be able to fulfill some of their tasks or turn the world upside down or, on the contrary, change the situation so that there are no encroachments on