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[000:00:00;00] what is happening is a more planned wave. and in the solomon islands that the president of the united states will plan a visit there, it is so far away for us, just like that. this is how the world looks like. the rivalry in the pacific ocean is a huge world, pregnant with possible conflicts . the thai straits, which in principle will stop the world economy, as none the coronavirus did not stop it, because if the production of chips is blocked, you can say goodbye to the entire gross national product of developed countries , which is five times better. well, that is why. by the way, biden is met him at rendre mody, prepared a vegetarian menu for him, and in a special event, chefs were invited to the white house to make this dinner menu for rendre mody , the list of guests was specially selected.
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that now they are working this prc to india and now i would say that this is so, you know, this card is such a trump card i would say that the action is blocking, it is your outfit for repair, not at biden’s, not everyone is ringing with those with whom he will be able to fulfill some of their tasks or turn the world upside down or, on the contrary, change the situation so that there are no encroachments on international law, well, that is, there are such real possibilities, and that is why i believe that the ukrainian crisis, if it continues, does not contribute to our opportunities as a world democracy to endure. after all, they started with her. vitaliya wanted to remind you that you told me about an interesting article by fury nefer. and i would like you to tell our viewers the main points
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that the united states should not accept ukraine into nato this is one of the voices of such voices, there are many, this is an american expert from the institute of cardboard wrote such a huge text in such a text that it is dangerous to accept ukraine into nato because if ukraine is accepted , donato, ukraine will remain in conflict with russia, which will mean that the united states is forced will enter into such a conflict and what will happen if, say, the united states does not want to enter into such a conflict with the russian federation, ukraine is in nato, it is in conflict with russia, and the united states does not want to be a participant in the conflict, it will destroy everything is too much, that is, the idea is very simple, so as not to demonstrate our helplessness in a real conflict with a nuclear state, let's not create conditions under which such helplessness will be obvious, because it will be much worse in the future, that is, it is better that ukraine be protected and we will pretend that we will protect it if it
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was in too much than she will be in too much and we won't protect her, so what is the morality of all these views? by the way, there was also information in ambisinius that there were supposed to be meetings of former us government officials with the minister of foreign affairs of russia lavrov and our representatives of the ministry of foreign affairs reacted and said that in view of the timing of the appearance of these materials in the media on the eve of vilnius , the question arises as to whether the hard position of anyone regarding the invitation of ukraine to nato is related to the quality of these behind-the-scenes consultations . such consultations were confirmed by the white house if there were no consultations . did you not confirm this fact? the question is that the diplomacy of the so-called second track this is a completely normal phenomenon for the united states. the united states always conducts diplomacy for years with non-involved persons
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who are not responsible for their decisions, actions and words. they try to make these persons talk to officials of a country with which they themselves do not want to have any of real diplomatic contexts, the most striking example of such negotiators is a perfectly christening example for everyone, the christ we know is the victory over john dalys with general karl wolff , general of the ss and by the way, it must be said that on in contrast to this version of the soviet version, which is known to people of the older generation who watched this famous series, it is even the garbage of spring, and there was this version that the soviet union did not know about these talks of heroism, learned about it and reported it to the command, but in fact it was not a school it is necessary because roosevelt is talking about these negotiations and stalin was informed, it was not a secret, they were allies and did not hide anything from each other at that stage
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, and in the kremlin it did not cause any uh-uh, especially the rampage with this layoff the reason that in moscow they believed that if it is possible to agree that part of the german troops will not participate in the war and the part that was in italy, for which general wolff was responsible as the chief of staff of general kystil, then this will improve the situation with the soviet troops because then the allies will be able to open a second front faster, they will not be forced to detain german troops on the territory of the apennine peninsula , that is, there was logic in this, but if you look at it with your own eyes, you know the morals and to say that there is a citizen of the united states, a person who had connections with the american leadership there, actually conducts official conversations with the ss general, there was a whole gene for this , not to the point, it must be said right away that the americans did everything possible to ease the fate of general wolff after the second world
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war, although he was, as you understand, not an angel, to put it mildly, and, to put it mildly, he participated in crimes against humanity because he was a general of the ss, not of the army, but he performed many moments that facilitated their activity as an ally. this is what real politics looks like. i i just think. in short, sergey lavrov, general wolff, general wolff had real opportunities to influence general wolff, he is a good leader of the ss, he had the opportunity to communicate there with the fuehrer, heinrichs , and the hymn-writers. he listened to him. he was an influential person, and sergey lavrov is not such a person , he is just a tape recorder who is performing this aria and what putin is putting in him and if we talk about some real negotiations, they are real. i think that we simply do not know anything about them. i think
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that such consultations are at the level of mykola patrosheva and serhiy naryzhka or some other informal people. they are happening and are not connected in any way with the summit on, but they are connected with the fact that the americans are looking for some opportunities to see where russia can stand in the way of the road from the end-resh when was when was the caribbean the crisis was settled by the efforts of khrushchev's sons-in-law oleksiy jubi, who was just the editor -in-chief of the izvestia newspaper, and was not even an official person. well , he was a relative of the first secateur, of course, this was enough for such a mission and there were several more such informal contacts with whom the americans talked. i think that this is still happening now. another question is how much russia and we are interested in this. these are the questions that the russians can also carry out a number of such, as it were, from closed secret diplomacy, hoping to destabilize the americans. well, simply it's time to drag to create
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hope that they will recover because what is the point of these negotiations to create hope that they will lead to something, the russians were actively engaged in diplomacy of the 2nd track in ukraine from the 14th to the 22nd year, there were a lot of different experts, do you remember they came, they didn’t even hide , they were big on consultations on how to end the war, and do you remember the most interesting thing was how the new representative of the president of the russian federation in the minsk contact group, boris grezlov , flew to kyiv and met with the president of ukraine, petro poroshenko if you really analyze politics and see that a person who is a permanent member of the security council of the russian federation was the head of the state duma of the minister of internal affairs of the russian federation , that is, he obviously has direct contact with putin well, at least the meeting of the security council comes to kyiv and talks with the ukrainian president, you have hope
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that the crisis will end. and what happens next ? on the contrary , the situation escalates, and then by the way, when they played this game several times with poroshenko, poroshenko lost power. they they started playing the same game with zelensky, er, we are dmytro kozak, who also tried to play the game of such a good investigator . such consultative joy - to the consultative council, and if the teacher then we will push the dnrivts and if you have never been involved in politics, a person who has worked all his life in the russian special services is sitting in front of you, saying that the mouse does not just want to solve it already урегулировать who do you think that for sure they are for sure everything needs to be stopped already, they themselves are tired of sanctions from and they have one task, and by the way, this is the main task of russian diplomacy, to delay time and
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pretend that they are ready to talk, they this is how they have been acting since 1918, that is how they started talking to them, relatively speaking, with the bolsheviks, and these are the heirs and even the cysts , they act like this all the time and act if they really want some kind of constructive agreement, it is not happening as we think, not as the americans believe this is real, the first person, real, picks up the phone and starts talking as a matter of fact, here i want to speak as john kennedy without any intermediaries, without any secret years, without this, this is like putin . by the way, during this rebellion , putin himself had a nice conversation with lukashenko. because well, we don't know who called whom, that's not even the question. the question is that there is direct contact between people who make real decisions and russian politics is based only on this. everything else
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is a kabuki theater . signals are being sent and decisions are not being made. speaking of lukashenko, an interesting situation is now coming. indeed, his plane moves in the direction of the russian federation. what is happening there so far? why is he sitting there? why are the agreements not working ? we do not know what the real agreements were about, we know what lukashenko talked about, and the real agreements were obviously prigozhyn not with lukashenko, well, we reached them publicly. they said that it should be brought to belarus, so they have to fulfill it, today there are some agreements, and tomorrow some new circumstances are connected with the need to protect the sovereignty of the russian federation in england, this is not needed
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here and there, not there, but here several contradictory processes are happening at once, on the one hand, we see how prigozhyn strengthens his influence, he is given money, pistols, and everything else, and on the other hand, we see that the wagnerites are sent somewhere, and we usually meet with the situation when the handsome man does not have any uh, clear obligations to the scumbag that didn't exist before. so, in this regard, i don't even know if it's possible to comment on this while being sane , because we don't fully know what it is about who of who agreed, lukashenko was the frontman of the agreement and not the person who actually negotiated with the accomplice, i am absolutely sure of this, so in this regard, there in russia . what do you think, after all, it is not profitable now that someone will liquidate him, he would not be there. he is not crazy anymore. well
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it seems to me that he is still crazy . let's talk about what was found in his house. do you think he is not crazy? there are some sledgehammer heads. well , why aren't they cut off? he is a bandit . no, this is a photo of the head. this is at home. well, it's very strange. it's at home. i certainly wouldn't be the head of a private company. i wouldn't send people to african countries. i wouldn't rob gold there, and i wouldn't do a lot of it . you know, money, the question of money, but not mental , was opened through it is very important for such a person to go to prison, it is such a millet-style only when you are not a prosecutor and a prisoner is not like that, there were also gold bars, after all, it is all from africa, it is clear where it comes from, but the handsome man himself looks like a person of absolutely sane sense of humor, because in principle what he says in their video messages, they look insane in their statements, there is absolutely clear cold-blooded analysis, by the way, you may have noticed that prigozhin's analysis is very often much more competent than putin's analysis
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. he clearly understands what is happening in ukraine, what are the capabilities of the russian troops, what are the capabilities of the ukrainian army. he is talking about the real competences of the ministry of defense. if you listen to his address when he analyzed this war for half an hour , this is the analysis of a person who has an absolutely obvious analytical dub, then simply this person thugs are scoundrels, but that does not mean that she is not capable of analyzing the situation , what i am talking about is that such a person will definitely not sit where she is being beaten. so i think that now some kind of struggle is going on, not between the handsome man and the sheikh, but if you want, between the main administration the general staff of russia is a former game and the federal security service of the russian federation. part of this struggle is important, but only a part, but he knows for sure that as long as the game exists, nothing will happen to him . he knows a lot and can hold a lot in his hands
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there are many connections and not only in russia but in the central african republic in malius siri. all this is needed, all this is part of their political influence and their enrichment, so in any case it is absolutely obvious that the very activity of prigozhina is needed by the russian political leadership and the most important thing is that we start with by the way, realize whether putin is starting to stop what is prigozhin's mutiny was not restrained against him, and if it is aimed at his and gerasima, it means that it is possible to continue to use this a tool to keep them in the fist, you will notice that it is just how many 10 days or 12 two weeks less and why did not say a single word well, it would be possible to say something if you are the minister of defense about a situation that is directly related to you if you won, then you say something, come out as the winner, you can just come out. you can just say something at all during this time, he disappeared, they showed him several times where he sat for meetings about putin and did not say the same thing. by the way, it concerns
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their buses. but it was the most influential the most popular minister in the russian federation before the start of the war is a person who has been in power for 30 or two years as a minister, it is impossible to say that such a person can be anyone, who also heads the ministry of defense, something else is just happening. well, i'm not sure, not sure, no, no who does not particularly influence, does not influence, but he will be a character in clan games. and putin is, i would say, a person who tries to establish a balance in these clan games, well, let's continue this conversation, vitaliy , we now have an absolutely exclusive inclusion will, because you remember in our news, we reported that the commanders of azov finally returned from turkey, our legendary fighters who defended mariupol and azov directly, and they were exchanged a year ago, and they
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were in turkey by agreement and finally returned home. lviv meets them, and our co- correspondent, my colleague khrystyna parubiy. i am now very glad that khresne is there. we would also like to meet our heroes with vitaly . khrystyna, tell me if you have seen our defenders . khrystyna, please. congratulations, colleague. congratulations to everyone. viewers of the espresso tv channel. yes, today i actually have a unique chance. but i haven't seen it yet. at the moment, only on the central square in lviv dozens of people have gathered. they are waiting, but in reality we don't know what we are expecting because the previous information we have that there should be a prayer here until the 500th day of the full-scale russian invasion, which i will remind you today is uh-uh, but probably probably we are waiting for avtodan and volodymyr zelenskyi, as well as for
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the azov citizens released from turkey. and i will remind you of this denys prokopenko svyatoslav palamar serhiy volynskyi, oleg khomenko and denys lega will be with their relatives today. why do we have uh, we can think so because in fact there is information that there will be a high delegation from kyiv, so it will probably be them, i will remind you that the information appeared today the turks released them today and that they are already in ukraine and today it is certain that lviv will meet them. this is what i have at the moment. well, we do not have any more brief information at the moment, but we are expecting and will meet them and will inform you more studio thank you thank you. waiting, we know that there have already been reports from the local authorities in lviv that there will be such a high delegation , that is why the central highways of the city are being blocked, and this is also such a very important moment, because it is obvious that
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everything will start from lviv, as we understand , then there will be. i hope to meet in kyiv, but just lviv as a city where such a border station has the opportunity to be the first to greet the heroes who were released today, too . an interesting story about the jeep - it was her portagan who made the decision to release these people it is obvious that their stay in turkey had to be coordinated with moscow in one way or another, it was moscow's. by the way, i still don't understand why there was such a demand that people were in turkey, that they were essentially interned in turkey, while those who did we exchange for them, let's say victor medvedchuk. they went to russia before turkey, this is a representation so that they don't return to the front, because this is really the commander of azov together for the russian federation, it's just like
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a red rag for a bull, they hate them they are not considered fascists , and the question arises. why could this happen now, but we are saying that president verdagan is going to meet the president of the russian federation in turkey in the next few days. he promised to talk with him, including decisions related to the so-called grain the agreement that we already talked about at the beginning and you know what he will dispute about it, come on, we continue with the given water, the azovians are already in ukraine and they can already join the army, what were you so afraid of, maybe this is a gesture for us, for president zelenskyi, what eh, eh, regekto and pardogan agreed with putin regarding the release of these rules, and maybe, on the contrary, the president could agree on something later . because before the presidential elections, it was very important for him to agree on something with putin, and it was important for him to withstand all these regimes that continued the grain agreement and it was very important for him to look like such a serious player in
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the international arena. and now he will be disappointed in these opportunities. i mean about putin, if he thinks that he will not agree on anything concrete with him anyway and then now there is no way to make any advances for him because he has already won the presidential election. so why do i advise you to keep people with you now when he cannot get anything from russia? he is an absolutely pragmatic person. and then what will happen at this meeting with putin, i finally forgot his last name. i think they have something to talk about, and besides the ukrainian-russian war, they have joint business plans for construction there, so i am spending russian money in the power plant in turkish russian banks. comfort in turkish villas, including for relatives putin, that is, the pace for conversation there is enough, well, there is enough else that uh, if
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there is no such geopolitical connection, such geopolitical solidarity, then rajpty, her cardigan , can afford such a strong gesture , because it is definitely a strong gesture, but we must understand that they are not the commanders of azov they just lived there in turkey and walked there, uh, on the streets, talked to people, it was not, there was no life in turkey, that they cannot return to ukraine from turkey. in turkey, do what you want, no, it was basically continued intonation, they were on a military base in comfortable conditions. well, of course they were not beaten there, obviously as in the russian situation, they were free within the framework of this military base, but exactly within the framework of this military base, it is still psychologically difficult, they were without their family, without their family they did not have as far as i understand access to information access to information was limited there are also questions and why what was the point of this
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their contact with loved ones was limited they could visit them only for some er, a specific scenario, well, with agreements with the turkish side. that is, it was a regime of intonation, it was not a regime of russian captivity, and it was a regime of turkish internment , there is a form such as intonation of citizens who, er, against whom there are no er, accusations, they do not consider this as prisoners, they are simply in a specific place and they cannot leave this place, this is also one mention of this war for me, do you understand why to tell the details like that? it seems unlikely to me. came in. i think they will tell something more about what i am telling. but in the media, as far as i remember, there were reports about what was happening. i knew this before from some of my sources, but i did not make it public
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until i read it these were texts about how their stay in turkey is really happening, it is very interesting that we even thought about it a lot , we had some kind of illusion that they are just people living in turkey and here they are. we are in ukraine. well, i did not know about what they are were limited by information, i understood that they are in some specific place and they cannot go out there arbitrarily, but the limitation of information is somehow too much well , nevertheless, i can still get confused because i read what i know angelica i have a problem so what let's assume that the memory is phenomenal. they always say i don't know, i just have information about what happened to them, and i don't know where this information comes from, sources that have already been made public or not yet made public, so i'm just telling you i am telling this general picture that corresponds to reality and as far as i can refer to competent sources from whom
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i have this information first-hand, the question is not even in this question that why such a procedure was carried out, this is what is important to understand because if the russians did not want they were going to the front, that can be understood. and why was it necessary to create such restrictions so that they could not live with their families? well, in the end, why ? and that a person is free, that we cannot be there, their relatives as much as they they want, that is, a million questions that will always arise. but the most important thing is that they are now free, that all this pp has finally ended. but you and i must remember how many people, including azov, continue to be in russian captivity, and this procedure has slowed down because the russians as always slow down this procedure because they consider it necessary to keep people hostage, and we know that a huge number of people who are in russian prisons , including citizens of ukraine from the occupied
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territories from crimea, public journalists activists, it didn't start on february 24, 2022. it started in the 14th year, when they began to capture people in packs of very slow people to exchange, to arrest someone else , right now, during the war , the repression in crimea continues, just about uh, rapists that we know about because we simply do not know anything about what is happening in donetsk region and luhansk region, because the regime there is not me in crimea, where it seems that there are no military operations. therefore , russia is forced to behave as if it is an occupied , unoccupied territory, a subject of russian federation, and where military actions are taking place, they do not obey any e-e laws at all, you know this story with the murder of these berdyan teenagers, yes, and again, under what legislation they wanted to bring them to justice, that is, for the greatness of the soviet russian federation or what legislation
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there was a temporary uh, what kind of judicial system is there now , has the transition period ended there, we don't understand all this, but they understand the most important thing is that the people in the territories occupied by russia , even these territories are called normal the territories of the russian federation live in a state of complete lack of rights, and therefore if we can talk about prisoners and understand their approximate number and all that, we can talk about public activists and journalists from crimea. so when it comes to donbas and the south of ukraine, we are generally many things we don't know. i think that we will learn a lot more details about the victims of this war on the part of russia there in these territories in the event of the liberation of those territories. by the way, russians can be so afraid of them, according to you remember what happened in izyum when they started to be opened one by one, the graves of those whom the russians entered how many such graves somewhere in america allowed the bodies to be taken away and now
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they will conduct dna analyzes in order to understand who they killed anyway and who was left there, this is a very important moment and i think that you and i should remember not one of our compatriots who can be taken out of there on the eve of the holiday that will take place today in ukraine. there were also quite a few border guards there, but there are usually 40-50 people, well, sometimes 100, and they are imprisoned in captivity thousands well right, because russia always believes that it is she who is in the materials here, if someone serious is caught in the growth of ukrainian prisoners or something else like that will happen, it will be possible to exchange at least 1,000 people for him. we remember that when it was necessary to release this makha, who was a very dangerous witness for putin, then he gave sentsova, whom he was not going to, yes, yes. and if it was necessary to change so that medvedchuk came to russia, then it was possible to give even the commanders of azov, this is what they
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calculate, you know, yes, this is a very simple , cold-blooded calculation of the situation. yes many people are interested in what is interesting about putin . the war continues. maybe it will appear. you know this. well, by the way, we will show, i think it is dead, when our streets will meet . please follow the path with our youtube channels on our youtube channel. lviv on svobody avenue, we'll see how it will all look, it's very important, they'll give a short one, at least put it before the people before the changes. well, i think that people will be waiting for them, whenever they don't appear there, at least for a documentary hour we will have time to go to the center of lviv to meet our heroes, so let's hope for this that today will be such an important day for all ukrainians today lviv residents will be there tomorrow or the day after tomorrow kyivans will meet
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with ukrainian heroes who came from uh, in fact, not from captivity from the stay in turkey on the 500th day of this great war and we will always say goodbye to you because we thank you, the comforters of the saturday political club in ukraine at 2 p.m. koval greetings to all viewers, an unexpected visit volodymyr zelensky visited lutsk, where he met with the president of poland, and

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