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authoritative comments and forecasts in the information marathon project with vitaly portnikov every sunday at 20:10 on espresso, this is the espresso tv channel, we talk about the most important things for today and for the week in connection with oleksandr's studio hara, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies, mr. oleksandr vitayu. thank you for joining the broadcast on good day . thank you for the invitation . i would like to tell the truth about the situation with the return of our heroes, the commanders of the defenders of mariupol. if they wish, they will return to military affairs in order to show themselves in battle - this is literally a quote from denys prokopenko-redis. and i will remind you that in principle

they were interned on the territory of turkey with the condition that until the end of the war they will be there and will not take part in the planning, well, directly physically in military operations . step maybe he feels more confident now that he has been re-elected as president, maybe what we saw in the russian federation with the failed rebellion, but with such a rebellion, the beauty showed putin's weakness and now there is no need at all to do something with him to count on erdoğan, your opinion, oleksandr well, i like that you mentioned prigozhin , because it is actually such a trend in russia and outside of the internet, humiliating putin means not allowing him to save face, you perfectly

remember how our western partners said that we should not drive putin into a corner we need to humiliate him because then he will do something like that before, regarding irdakad, well , it is absolutely clear that this person feels very confident, uh, he has been there for more than a dozen years in the highest offices of the government, this the first moment, and let's remember how at one time the turks warned the russians several times not to fly into their airspace, and then the russians once again violated this and the plane was shot down. well, then they banned, er , these tomatoes are turkish, and several companies were expelled from the russian federation because of a certain time, everything returned to normal, because between turkey and putin's cardigan and russia, there is a coincidence of interests and certain contradictions, which allow them to sometimes act

in a way that would not be very convenient for the other partner turkey remains a nato member country that declares that it is not going to undermine unity in any way. although, of course, there are nuances, especially now regarding sweden, the second point is that turkey did not recognize the illegal annexation of crimea and other territories and constantly repeats that it is ukrainian territory and helps us, including with weapons there , so that we also return that territory. that is, it is such a complex set of relations. of course, this is another dagger in the back or a little lower to mr. putin. of course, we are glad to see our heroes, and of course that we want to see the rest of the defenders of mariupol and, by extension, in particular the azovians in ukraine, because it means that russia is not fulfilling its obligations, which were given when the issue of our heroes

laying down weapons and actually leaving this fortress of azovstal was being decided. so, we will to wait, but actually this is a very good signal, and we see that ah, you know, the village of potemkin , from the authoritarian regime, only looks like a monolith on reinforced concrete, but in fact it is rotten and fragile inside, and i hope that with success more powerful than now in our offensive , we will, let's say, create such a situation when this power in moscow will fall and disintegration processes will begin in the russian federation, this will be inevitable. i hope, of course, that it will be there for two months. the empires are dying for quite a long time. and actually we are now watching, or rather not watching. we are participating in the destruction of this nedo-empire. finally, our thesis with you that

there is a trend in the u.s. to take, uh, not putin, to the kpi will be confirmed. is it worth waiting for? this, for example, from the leadership of the people's republic of china, because they are quite wisely watching to the last and already understanding whose side schalke is on, the scales lean more towards that and put it very often , it happens ah, should we expect something like this from the prc on like what erdoğan did, no, absolutely no, because, first of all, the chinese are trying to think in a slightly longer perspective . of course, they want to become a heymon, they want to push out of this place the united states and, er, these northern barbarians they are instrumental, because what the chinese are thinking about, what are they thinking, the russians had the stupidity to start with less resources and in more

unfavorable conditions, uh, you know, i really like the saying of one of the chinese journalists. it's a pity that i didn't remember her name, she told the americans na na the question: why don't they stand together with the united states? they don't support ukraine, since there is the rule of law in international law , humanitarian things. she said that you want us to help you deal with russia, and then you will concentrate resources on to hold us back is this key phrase, that is, they understand that the russian federation is even so weak and even that it is weak . it is even more and more dependent, primarily in the economic sense, on china, and there are more details in the political sense, and it is actually very profitable . instead of zinc, now they buy russian resources and the chinese are strengthening their influence on the far east and on siberia, of course, hoping to absorb it in a certain way, but it will definitely not be such a brutal annexation as russia

did with crimea or later with others ukrainian territories, why do the chinese take such steps when they can simply control it, with the russians, physical control is the only thing they know how to understand, and soft control through e-e money, through infrastructure or through this dialogue, as the western world actually dominates, they are simply not capable of doing that is why the chinese will support, uh, try to keep russia from losing this war. but they understand that she definitely can't win this war. well, i'm trying to get into our european affairs. there are two points that bother me. are concerned about china's peacekeeping initiatives, more precisely, the peacekeeping post is the reconstruction of ukraine, and the second point is participation in the formation of the european security architecture, this will only mean that ukraine should be armed, it should not be militarized in order to oppose the russian federation, and the post is

for reconstruction this means the actual joining of ukraine to this one road one belt in order to have an influence on the domestic and foreign policy of ukraine through infrastructure projects and through us to have access to central eastern europe and beyond. and already to the western markets, of course i want to see chinese chinese aid and money, but not to the extent that we become like african states with dependents for decades in terms of resources. i am not talking about the political. thank you, mr. oleksandr, on the eve of vinnytsia nato , a rather interesting event took place - it is the shanghai commonwealth organization itself, and now iran is entering, belarus is preparing, it is magic to somehow influence the course of events now

opinion in general, our partners in the world, well, paraphrasing a russian classic, that all free peoples are equally happy and all enslaved peoples are unhappy, each one individually, and actually if you looked at the theses, what was the topic of this coincidence, they talked about each of them, their problem and some kind of unity and in principle, the organization is created for that, which is certain or of value, if we say, for example, about the same nato or there are common interests, well, in fact, it was built on this shock, but now we do not see this convergence of these interests, on the contrary, we see that there are certain disagreements, the only thing that unites them. of course, it's not love for, it's based on the rules of the world order , where there is a question of human rights, education , and other such things that annoy, of course, authoritarian china. religious, whatever, i'm not talking

about our northern barbarians, who are actually a fascist state that is completely wrong. let's say with a step against the west, they are already doing everything, but they are doing it a little, it is in single steps, sometimes synchronously, if we say the help of the same iran, in the war against ukraine, the russian federation, that's all, but so that it is organized, united, well, let's wait well, to briefly talk about the expectations from vilsk themselves, stoltenberg said that at the summit in vilnius, the leaders will adopt a package regarding ukraine, which will contain three main elements, and the leaders will agree on a multi-year support program to guarantee full interoperability between

by the ukrainian armed forces and nato, secondly, at the summit , political ties between ukraine, nato, and the council of ukraine will be renewed. comment, well, of course. this is interesting and correct. of course, the points should be looked at in the final document, and since it is not possible to assess the depth of these things based on such general points, of course we want to get a clear formula that ukraine will become a member of nato after the end of this war. it's not just that nato's doors remain open, they can actually never be closed, not even for ukraine, for other states , because in fact the alliance itself is ideologically based on this, so they can't throw us out and deprive us of this, let's say , goals in this regard, such an extremely important long-term aid package of course, this will also depend on how much

it corresponds to those proposals of ukraine, what capabilities do we need in order to fight now and deter russian aggression in the future, so let's look at the documents then we will have more reason to say yes or to criticize our partners or to say thank you for recognizing our role and our contribution to european security thank you mr. oleksandr oleksandr khan expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies e-e now on the espresso tv channel in i am personally taking a short break, but stay with us , my colleagues are continuing their work, i am denysa oliynyk , after the start of the audacious invasion of the russian troops into ukraine, i returned home from

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the main events of this week vitaly portnikov and top experts on the most striking events of the last seven days, the first guest will be the generator of satellite forces , the former national security adviser to the president of the united states, donald trump, herbert the mat-master , we will touch on current topics, pressing questions , authoritative comments and forecasts in the project information marathon with vitaly portnikov every sunday at 8:10 p.m. espresso, the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians, victories and losses , analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics , all this will be discussed by serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program, people with information and people who defend ukraine and create the future shape public opinion, the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict of serhiy rudenko from

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on a transit vacation. on the agenda is the issue of security and defense of ukraine , economic competitiveness of the eu , migration and relations with external forces such as china, my guest today is the president of lithuania and we are here after a successful career as an economist, including the position in the central bank of lithuania in the 19th year he was elected president july 11-12 his country is hosting an important nato summit mr. president thank you very much for joining good morning on thursday many comments were posted calling wagner's mercenaries with various murderers what did you try to focus on this colleagues from the european union , perhaps some of them are too calm about what is happening, i can say that this was one of the hottest topics of our discussion because colleagues understand well

what happened, but for now we have limited information is already in belarus, but there is no intelligence data about the presence of wagner 's military group, e.e. lukashenko may have up to 6,000 wags in belarus today. no, we do not have such information. wagnerites , then the most important question is what i must clarify next. recently, you had the opportunity to be with president zelensky, how

worried did he seem to you about this and what does this mean for his personal security if the wagnerites will be physically closer to his location. well, he told me that the numbers speak for themselves . there are about 20,000 wagnerites on the battlefield in ukraine. we are talking about five or six. this is the proportion of fighters. is not the main assumption for many reasons , no one knows that it is possible to reintegrate these fighters into the regular army of the russian federation due to the difference in the salary of wagner is much higher than that of the russian army, so it is likely that they

will be used in africa or simply in order to strengthen the belarusian army, in any case, we must be ready for the worst development of events, and therefore the scenario where to give the scenario that they can turn against us, you said it on the first day yourself, that is, your country has the longest of all countries is from the border from belarus have you strengthened your protection on the border between lithuania and belarus yes we have a special plan some cooperation between our armed forces between the border guards and we will also spend a lot more money to gather intelligence on the border, we call on our colleagues and allies of the council to pay due attention to this during

the city summit war, i think it is very important to discuss the context of the forward presence in order to be aware of current events , to respond to them, and also to protect and strengthen the eastern flank, we will return to of these issues in the framework of the nato summit in vinnytsia, but there are still a few points regarding the eu council . the presence of the vagnev people in belarus but it is also very important for me in the context of nuclear issues, because now there is a lack of information to decide what will ultimately be known from me

just action as you mentioned, over the last six months there has been a lot of aggressive rhetoric from putin and lukashenka about the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons on belarusian soil , as far as i know, is already at the stage of implementation , we are probably talking about a few weeks and then the nuclear weapons will be placed there, we are still observing isolated attempts of illegal crossing the border, illegal migration with weapons continues now, in the aggregate, we have them correctly noted, an explosive cocktail of factors that should be kept in mind by the seletskam or, er, to what all this means for nato, what are your plans for regional defense, because you said that now in

us they should be the least shaved in defense , do you think that the entry of sweden into finland will change the situation, that it will still be shaved regardless of what happens , first of all, we must understand and we must be united in understanding what is safe the situation in our region is not improving now and continues to deteriorate due to the reasons i have already mentioned, of course such immunity is an additional factor of danger in the region, that is why we are looking forward to the vinnytsia summit, in particular to the regional plans that will be approved there. at the end of this year, regarding the german military, they are about to arrive in lithuania, right? we already have

german troops, but we are talking about expanding their presence to the level of a brigade. to deploy a full-fledged german brigade on a permanent basis e-e basis as soon as the situation allows, infrastructure, testing grounds are needed, that is why we are speeding up the procedures to complete the work on the creation of infrastructure by 2026 are really very positive, but we must also make decisions at the nato level that concern not only the security of the baltic but the black sea is a stain there fucking there security of boltextibat tolstoy's black sea and sweeding - this

is extremely important for finland from a strategic point of view eh welcome membership finland, we still believe that sweden will be able to be included in the victory at the vilnius summit. but of course , the probability of this is not high. what signals do you think the vilnius summit should send to ukraine from the point of view of ukraine's possible membership in nato and also based on your recent discussions with president zelensky what are his time frames and of course there are certain expectations , the president told me that they understand that the situation does not allow to invite ukraine to become a full member of nato today, but they all wanted to see a certain corridor

procedure or algorithm to do this if the war ends. i am absolutely sure that the war will be victorious for ukraine, we must do everything depending on us to support ukraine to the end, consider the issue of how to bring ukraine closer to nato operationally, how to create institutional bodies such as the ukraine nato council, which will take place on general meeting in vilnius chanson is extremely important as foreign support from various countries including france, you really do a great job supporting ukraine and it has a very big the importance of speaking about france, what are the disagreements between germany and france regarding the so-called european initiative sky shield is about anti-missile defense in europe france is very interested in not having european strategic autonomy, that is, having its own industry that produced various components such that it seems that germany is not against

using american or israeli technologies, i think you are more in favor of the second option, you have always been supporters of trans-atlantic relations, as it follows from recent events, we must take it upon ourselves more and more responsibility, that's why the war in ukraine became a push home about strategy and autonomy, but you probably shouldn't start with such big projects, you quite simple things, for example, the majority of investments in the defense sector to support ukraine on a bilateral level, of course , eu levels ukraine ballad rolentov cost on you a good example of such autonomy is the initiative and also the educational mission of europe is

very useful in this regard, uh, we will be able to continue our discussion, maybe later we will put before us, that is, we are talking about specific steps that's how the step-by-step arrival live broadcast of the espresso tv channel continues. my name is khrystyna yatskiv and there is news from france . no one should doubt the determination of this country to support ukraine as long as necessary. new supplies of military aid are being prepared. catherine column of france france has repeatedly stated that it will support ukraine as much as is necessary in order for it