[000:00:00;00] we will be able to continue our discussion, perhaps in the future we will face larger-scale projects, that is, we are talking about concrete steps . just like that, the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel continues. my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and there is news from france . it is necessary to prepare new deliveries of military aid , the minister of foreign affairs of france, catherine colonna, stated this in her last interview. france has repeatedly stated that it will support ukraine

as much as is necessary in order for it to be able to ensure the legal protection of its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders, no one should doubt our determination to fulfill this obligation . needs are ammunition and our colleagues from the european union are doing everything necessary to ensure that we receive them , most importantly, in the appropriate volume and on time about this and not only we will talk with maria mezentseva, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the permanent delegation of the verkhovna rada as a couple mrs. maria i congratulate you glory to ukraine and glory to the heroes let's talk about this topic and start the presidency of the council of the eu reached a preliminary agreement with representatives of the european parliament on the law on support production of ammunition, the agreed provision urgently mobilizes 500 million euros from the eu budget

at current prices to support the expansion of production capacities for the production of ground-type ammunition and artillery munitions as well as missiles, this is actually a continuation of the reinforcement of the direction that was agreed by the council in march 2023 ms. maria is everything going according to plan are you making enough efforts and are the appropriate decisions timely so that everything goes smoothly for us at the front yes thank you very much for question. i am sure that not all three viewers know that , in general, such decisions on military aid in the direct allocation of such funds from the eu budget , yes, half a billion, that is, 500 million, are not space funds for the eu, because their budget much more but usually they focused on certain training issues on joint efforts, but here we see the specific

allocation of funds for ammunition, artillery shells, land, everything that you listed, of course, uh, we expect additional news precisely at the vilnius summit , where the expansion is not 27 countries like the eu and 31 already together with finland, but we believe that since the presidency now has in the european union for six months spain, the minister of defense , we are proud that she is a woman and, in principle , all the efforts of the prime minister of spain they were sent to approve this decision, we were informed as a delegation that had the opportunity to talk with european partners about this the day before, that is, in principle, from our meeting, the members of the european parliament of the committee were then dispatched to a meeting with the council of the eu, we are very glad that such agreements

have been reached, we will be happy even more so if this production starts as soon as possible, of course we as people's deputies who are very often together with boys and girls as our defenders on the front line keep in direct contact with them, they talked about the fact that within the framework of our state interests, of course, we want such production to have localization in ukraine as well, if we are talking about more comprehensive achievements than the agreements reached, of course there are certain reservations regarding such localizations due to the continued aggression of russia against ukraine, we are considering different geographies, but in principle it would be ideal because, for example, the adjustment of combat vehicles is already taking place in several regions of ukraine without crossing the state

border, this is great because it ensures a speed and b jobs, including to help the defense forces . as for additional issues that we didn't have to. well , let's just say they were on our agenda . as in 2013 the association agreement was not signed there, he says we are waiting and we can already see our progress in fulfilling the seven points of obligations, yes, two are rated as perfectly fulfilled, and we are finalizing the other five, i directly reported to the european commission regarding legislative initiatives this is also the return of the declaration for the subjects of the declaration, not only people's deputies, but also all a that relate to our anti

-corruption obligations, the fight against corruption , of course, this issue is also an ethnic issue. well, national minorities are issues that we are also working on in the council of europe together with colleagues , and i hope that the corresponding changes that we, as the ukrainian side, and our partners, for example, in hungary and romania, are expecting those philosophies will be compatible with the documents recently issued by the venice commission . well, i would like, for example, the hungarian partners to take into account the realism of the conditions in which ukraine is. on e-e also our blitz with the state language ukrainian well, i won't

go into details if i'm allowed, but in general the progress of points is not the only way we work. you know that european integration i also touched on the media about the law. i also welcome you as a front. the relevant front is reliable. and this law was evaluated at the highest level , that is, we are making maximum progress here. after hanna malyar, the deputy minister of defense of ukraine , noted that the crimean bridge and the kerch bridge were attacked by us and this is such a public recognition well, we all understand very well that the war actually could not to bring us to this point in october of last year, and after that, maria zakharova , after getting out of her drunkenness a little, as they say, noted that this is a terrorist practice, and

this is exactly what the defense forces of ukraine are planning now on the military around, we must return to the topic of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, a provocation that they themselves plan, but in advance they accuse us in the same way as our colleagues react, our colleagues, again, i will return to the specialized committee - this is the committee of energy , industry and scientific research, there are very powerful meps, one of them, for example, the former president of the parliament, the european parliament, or even the prime minister of poland, zebuzik is falling, and our other dear colleagues, they are aware, absolutely aware that such announcements remind us very much of everything that happened not only in the last 51 days of full-scale aggression, but also this has been happening since 2014, just under a different veil, starting with the green men and

many other things, so here we are together with colleagues of the european parliament in our joint cell from thursday of this week it is already on the europalamento website, we are a separate item statement of the parliamentary committee of the assembly and the parliamentary committee of the association. i'm sorry, meps and members of the verkhovna rada, this is a joint working group . we wrote in a separate item that we call on megatel to fulfill its mandate to be at the station and put pressure on russia as a party that must fulfill its obligations regarding the cooling of the the cooled mode, for example, of the block with the nuclear power plant and not only because here here, well , on the sidelines, we discussed this issue and we

see how they react to the work. i'm sorry, it's not the topic of the nuclear power plant is nevertheless a tangential topic , how do you feel that the international red cross is being fulfilled or, more precisely, not being fulfilled? i want this to happen , because you remember when the tragedy happened at the kakhovsky hpp, how did the un, for example , the council of europe react, the european parliament unequivocally recognized it as an act of ecocide, and the european parliament urgently withdrew from with its statements, the un is like a structure where there are 193 countries, so it all takes more time to agree, but i'm sorry, i still have to explain this crime, and if you allow me to add that it's just about the leukicide we should work as international lawyers a little more

that, for example, the european parliament does not have an agreed version of which court should consider this crime. that is, it is laziness. everything remains in question , it is a question because it is a legal issue, well, it is a legal issue. so we leave it to a lawyer, an internationalist among the people's deputies, such people are, of course, it is very important to write this in the resolution, but first of all, the ukrainians received compensation and this is possible due to the register of losses that is already starting to work in gas and thanks to the ukrainian authorities of the prosecutor's office, the ministry of justice, the council of europe, the office of the president of the delegation guys, now you can submit your applications for compensation, and this also applies not only to the loss of property, the loss of missing relatives - this is to the employee, etc., that is

, real mechanisms are important for us, not just statements. thank you, maria , for your powerful work and for inclusion in on the air maria mezentseva, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the permanent delegation of the verkhovna rada, the couple was in touch with us, eh, now we have a short break. after that, we will talk about how ukrainians all over the world are reacting to the summit in vilnius and what they they urge us to request from our partners, please, there are discounts on exoderil cream 20% in pharmacies. traveler, you want to save. you want to wake up rested and full of strength, but from the old mattress. the whole body constantly hurts, and you can’t find a comfortable position on the sofa. you need to improve your sleeping place meet the new product from the experts mattress tv mattress stopper casper ortholight instant solution to the problem of an uncomfortable sofa or an old mattress

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expect from next week and definitely the most important event will be the summit in vilnius, on july 11-12, there will be a nato summit where important theses for ukraine can be heard, one of which is the most ambitious . you know not only ukrainians who are now forced to emigrate, but also actually citizens of those countries who are already members of the alliance and who have critical thinking and understand that now the efforts of the defense forces of ukraine and the ukrainian people are restraining a powerful world aggressor and if we do not grind it down, we will have to to beat them a little cynically, let it sound but it's the truth ah, about these rallies that are taking place in 33 countries of the world and about

today's largest one in vilnius, we will talk with vlada dumenko, the coordinator of the action of the international center of ukrainian victory of the government. congratulations, we don't have much time, but i really want to know how crowded today's rally in vilnius is, whether many people support ukraine in nato. i don't know if our guest can hear me. please tell us briefly how the rally in vilnius is going now. what do you expect from the summit and other actions in 33 countries ? yes

, we have already started actions around the world. it's seven o'clock in the evening, congratulations, it hasn't started yet, we're waiting for it and everyone will respond. we invite you to join us. it's yours to say that all people have ukrainian local emotions that come out at the joint action about the contribution. it's very clear, quite clear, write the equation a this is receiving a formal invitation to nato for ukraine, unfortunately, there are problems with communication with vlada domenko , the coordinator of the action of the international center of ukrainian victory, people go to rallies in order to, well, something a-a force the politicians to make an important decision just to say that nato's doors are open for ukraine. and to demonstrate this with a specific invitation

does not in any way mean that we are not aware of how much work lies ahead of us, work not only to destroy the occupier on our land, work not only to liberate our occupied territories , but also internal work in the context of reforms . this is a very difficult task when you are fighting one of the most powerful opponents. at the same time, you have to come out of this crisis already reformed and changed. this is another one of our a front that we should not let out of sight and i thank all our viewers for joining this work and i thank you that despite the current somewhat centralized information policy, you, together with the espresso tv channel, continue to focus on all important stories that relate to our development as before the victory yes and after a-a we were lucky with us e agreed to talk e-e

to the president of poland in previous years lech wałęsa and i am sincerely a little jealous of my colleague lesya wakuliuk who did for you and for me this is an interview, and we will now see it in our politics. he is always on the side of ukraine , often harsh and categorical. today we have as a guest , without exaggeration, the most famous electrician in the whole world, who became a symbol of the struggle for independence, the leader of the solidarity movement , whose members fought against the communist regime in poland, a man about whom more than one documentary and feature film was shot nobel peace laureate and president of poland in 1990-95 lech wałęsa good day, mr. president

good day there is a yellow badge and a very beautiful shirt. i see a blue-yellow badge and i want to thank you for supporting ukraine with via . you already support our country, mr. donzhiv . after all, ukraine and the interview mentioned that at the beginning of their presidency , they wanted ukraine and belarus together joined nato and the eu show those mr. to tego why did you bet on it then? nato members that it must be done until then, or will they do it? i believe that this is my mistake, because i postponed the decision until my second

presidential term and lost the elections, it all complicated the situation, but i could not do it earlier, because the west is true for everyone , you are not was ready for such a decision, it was a problem to accept poland into nato, the eu. and what if i told them to also accept ukraine and belarus in that situation, they were not ready to swallow it, and that's why i said yes, and we will step by step, they want to join with hungary now. already during the second term of office forces them to accept ukraine and belarus, but i did not have a second term. and how do you assess ukraine's chances now, what can we as a country hope for from the summit in vilnius, i am a practitioner in all areas. so, if we talk about nato, then ukraine is the best candidate

well, for nato, at the same time, if it is about the eu, and here things are a little worse, there the economic conditions must be met. so the direction is correct, but the economic conditions must be planned better . i am doing everything and will do everything in order to speed up the moment and changes. i remember that if it were not for the escape of poland, i would be in the place of ukraine, the russians were in poland, not in ukraine, i know this. i am completely convinced of this and that is why i appeal and do everything myself. because i know that poland was able to escape and ukraine was not. well, yes she couldn't live with the don, and that's why this terrible war is going on in her own way. taras grigoryovych lives in belarus after his failed rebellion, at least that's what they say he

lives there, and not only he, but also his fellow wagnerites , the poles, meanwhile, are strengthening their borders as much as poland in your opinion and polish the army is ready for the fact that russian soldiers can enter the territory of poland, into the territory of poland, the general will try to see if he will act, he will see how he will get rebuff from the poles, but i am 100% convinced that he will not try, because i know that there is no chance. well, unless this is a planned world war that they should go so that russia uses all its means. if there are such plans, then the world must prepare for such plans. and what are they saying in poland now about the war in ukraine, what are the moods among the people, we know very well that we have never

there was a more suitable situation in order to put things in order with russia . putin made a mistake by mobilizing the entire developed world against him. i wanted to put things in order with russia when we collapsed the soviet union. to change the political system, it is not putin , it is not stalin, it is the political system that causes such elections, and for that , and for the sake of russia, we must use propaganda to prove to every russian that tomorrow putin will take him into the army the day after tomorrow he will die, and today his son and his daughter died because putin is in the military, so not so much with tanks, not so much with missiles, but with propaganda, we must convince every russian that for his life and his happiness and for ours, it is also necessary for russia to change the political system,

the president cannot the country should have more than two terms of 5 years each because he will build such a gang as putin was building now and before stalin well, but putin eh. then, after the failed rebellion, prigozhina saw that he was losing power, and he was very afraid of this and was afraid of the face of the world. is afraid that the events that have happened in russia recently can cause its disintegration more easily on the outside, but kavalki or what do you think, are western politicians ready for russia to disintegrate and is the scenario ultimately better or worse for russia or better for the west, better for the world, for us i was the first of all at this time to identify two ways to change russia , one is the change of the political system that i was talking about. well, the second is for the people that the russians

won by force, as they are now trying to do with ukraine, and with russification, they became not against russia, but they must find their identity, they can stay with russia, but they must say our coffins are there , you conquered us, conquered us, but we want to have our own territory , we will be in russia, but we must have our own, introduce propaganda to outline the situation, do not be afraid that the russian people will now start a struggle for independence, independence that cannot change russia, but to find what is their age, what you

are talking about, because even on those films in rostov when prigozhin went to moscow in rostov , for example, the video or how the people of the spire can it was noticed how passers-by support the wagnerites, they consider them almost heroes, although they are actually murderers, criminals, as ordinary as buckets of water, but people give them food and water, they say, “thank you for your support, what is wrong with russian society, why do they cheer for those people?” who kills others for money, why are those who come with war to another country considered heroes? dear ms. uvyoda, you are also talking about the current state of affairs

. upbringing and persuasion and this takes a little time, they need to be converted to civilization, as the entire western world has been done, but this is not a matter of one day, the current state of affairs. that we have to move to a higher organization, because to continents and even to globalization, and with the old times divided, it is difficult to unite , it is difficult to understand, we have to get rid of many things, and good people must be acquired like this the course of things, the full-scale invasion has been going on for a year and a half, we hear in the news that people in the west are starting to get tired of the war in ukraine or in mr. ochuva, and it has decreased

in that of his compatriots, what they say in poland, now in our in our generation, fate requires us to review on technical development and even on the pandemic of reorientation from countries to continents and globalization of globalization how to do it your development requires it when such a difference in education in the economy is self -inflicted harm how to do it is critical it is necessary and that is why these funds are guidelines for today but in order to change and go in the direction of the development of civilization until the end of the 20th century, mostly all countries appropriated other territories, where at the end of the 20th century we

see that there are two concepts of ukraine, nuclear and the second through the eu through nato, peaceful who wants a democratic one, the question arises. will this concept win this time after putin's mistake, or will we wait a little longer for something that corresponds to logic, ah , this is benji, where ukraine will not end, what will happen if ukraine does not end the war this year and next year, we will not win it without the help of our allies, so we need your support, so whether ukraine will be able to do it or not , the world has no choice but to stand on the side of ukraine, because it is the side of development