[000:00:00;00] on serious repression , so sooner or later you still start to lose because you don't have the resources to protect yourself . er collection of resources in order to introduce positional activity, here in these conditions there are er spontaneous protests , here in vali last year something similar happened when tens of thousands of people in different went to the cities. they went to the field. they didn’t want to replace this regime . the presence of a weak central government

that does not control all the financial flows within the country did not create the strongest consolidated autograph, and in the end, the conflicts of the liter school did not lead to the fact that the power was displaced and so these are the cycles of change, they create more, as if they give the opportunity to civil institutions to sow all that somehow. now , kargostan has become a little bit worse even in kazakhstan, and what this will lead to , only time will tell. well, thank you. excuse us. business i need to discuss with energy and here dimash alzhanov, a kazakh political scientist, was in touch with us and told us what is happening in kazakhstan , so be happy, citizens of ukraine, that you are strong and still go out into the street and still

protest and go out to the square and see what happens when people don't come out on the maidan, when they consolidate, they consolidate power around some one person, and then the average central asia has what it has, the conversation was interesting, now it's no less interesting , stanislav ignatius, chairman of the council of the ukrainian association of renewable energy , general director of solar generation, doctor of technical nauk he will be with us and we will talk with him, ms. stanislav, thank you for finding time for us, you can hear it so, so great, if you can hear it, i and and and and and i don't know what to do next a now i know, look. well, how much, well, the main question is how ukraine is ready today. until winter, until late autumn, until winter . how much mistakes are taken into account that were obvious

in previous years and maybe we can last year. not bad, why, i don’t know why, because the cabinet of ministers is working perfectly or because god is in heaven for ukraine and decided that -30° frost should not be allowed to enter ukraine today , now it’s summer, it’s almost the middle of summer, so that you they said about how the winter can be, is the government doing enough for that, are people saving enough here, and the government and people here have such a wide range of questions, please, mr. stanislav p. mykola, thank you for an interesting question, i will immediately speak the truth and answer your first thesis so, first of all, it is true that god helped that we had such a relatively warm winter, and secondly, it is thanks to those energy workers, those professionals

who work like our military on the energy front, who fight for our independence with their hands and their lives directly at generation facilities or at facilities for the transmission and distribution of electrical energy, i.e. at large substations on power lines, these are the guys you see there very often in photos on large towers in orange clothes with gloves in fairy tales, they are the ones who helped us this disgraceful period is relatively normal compared to the next disgraceful period . well, i will not sow myths among your viewers of your territory, because i will say this all the time on other broadcasts and for other audiences, the winter will be the most difficult in the last time of existence regardless, it will be more difficult than the previous winter, this is already official

information, because you understand that after the frenzied shelling by the occupier on our substations, especially with high-voltage equipment, we used to have two principles of operation of our general system of the whole of ukraine , this is the first principle - this e.e. duplication and the second principle is a parallel organization . work so far parallel work . thank god. everything is fine. but with regard to e.e. principles of duplication of equipment. we have a big problem at substations because the enemy below is expensive, very rare, high-voltage equipment, these are primarily transformers, and you have seen these terrible photos and videos from the shelling of kharkivska 35, where the transformers spoke and the atmospheric oil spoke, and we even published a picture when this fire is visible at night from space we currently do not have duplication in our pct facilities and the enemy - this is well known through our agent system

due to the fact that certain of our employees have made this aspect public. therefore, this is the first very important and very difficult component of the passage secondly, this is a problem with the accumulation of fuel for our coal-fired thermal power plants, we understand how large the territory is now occupied and currently in the state in one of the state enterprises that own three powerful power plants they don't have the resources due to public debt to purchase uh, this coal is purchased by another state enterprise, and this is a very complicated process, which i hope the government controls and keeps its finger on the pulse here. another problem is that i think we are up to we will return to this issue with you on the air, this is the accumulation of natural gas passes in our underground reservoirs, as this will provide an opportunity for our energy security for the autumn and

winter period . we have much less gas now than before, even in the war period of the 22nd year. at this very time, it is primarily connected with the policy of uh, on the occupier , did you say our i apologize to the occupiers, which it supplies less and less gas to european partners due to sanctions , and the less we receive . to the gas transportation system at the entrance from the russian federation, and this is also a problem. well, the most important problem is that we understand that our such a good neighbor, who was good for a long time and now has become a monkey with a grenade, can strike at

any object at any time power system object as a generator to enterprises and electric power companies that are engaged in the distribution and transmission of electricity, this is an injection of ukrenergo and oblenergo, that is , these are large substations. of electricity both for sonya and for business, and we need to prepare for this winter. it is important enough to feed. if you have your storage devices, have them inspected. if you have your generators, have them inspected and have a supply of fuel and prepare for this winter. more seriously, but than we were preparing for the pre-order of the winter disgraceful period, look mr. evil, and for the sake of it well, that is, conditionally speaking, what am i, what are you, now i will be proud of such an arrogant person and i am the prime minister of ukraine, and here you are telling me this

and the ministers are sitting around me. i say listen to stanislav. he says such and such . we, he named four or five problematic points. the only point that we cannot do anything about is putin's name. where will he shoot, how will he shoot, when he shoots, we we don't know the rest, but is it possible, or is it possible to run european gas into the gas storage, and is it possible , at least somehow, semi-safe, i'm not saying 100%. some of these main generator possibilities, i don’t know, maybe they should be sprinkled under the ground or sprinkled with earth so that they are less likely to be damaged and so on, that is, this moment can be used to help some part of what you call barks, also note that yesterday i conducted the program and there was a figure that our currency reserves were 39 billion. we

had money. we have a lot of money on average, 15 was 10-20, 24 was considered super much , now 39, that is, we can theoretically buy what we can do to help, mr. mykola, i will tell you frankly, such experts as uh, we currently speak the same language with the government , and this is very positive because it is happening . i think that for the first time in the field of energy in the whole recent time, since before there were two points of view, one point of view is an expert point of view, the second point of view is the government's point of view, which has never coincided. today, we work hand in hand and develop common positions, and the government very often now applies for services to such experts and here the opinions are consolidated regarding the fact that there is a lot of money there, i watched this program of yours, but the question is that

you understand this equipment. it is not only expensive, but it is produced for a very long time, and it was mainly soviet of production and there are few factories located in ukraine , the occupiers are in the country of the aggressors, and therefore there is a big problem here that we cannot produce this equipment. everything in europe or european partners will be brought to you from europe, but the problem is different between us and europe, different voltage classes, that is , roughly speaking, different voltage on high-voltage lines, and therefore european equipment very rarely fits our nevestas, now there are units of what when european large transformers came to ukraine it was a big long way when they traveled there , even whole bridges were dismantled in european countries, uh, in ukraine, they traveled on certain

roads, they made these roads from soil and rubble so that they could bypass certain uh obstacles and they arrived at their facilities and now the installation, but it is so artificial and so complicated, and currently the largest repair company in europe, i think in the world, is underway in ukraine to restore the networks of these substations in order for us to this disgraceful period passed with great problems, but i want to appeal to every ukrainian on your broadcast and say the following: and now we have a deficit, the energy is turned off . microwave ovens. well, the queen oven is the biggest user of electricity in your house in the household sector. it saves on laundry and you switch to daytime and

nighttime. doing this will help our energy system to purchase less electricity for the border eh and eh to be now direct more money to just these restoration projects this is the last issue very important for ukrainians and i will be cursed now i can already hear the curse that with gasoline our gasoline has increased taxes have become more expensive by 3 hryvnias and gasoline prices will continue to rise at once , whether or not this will happen or what will happen. mykola, in the oil and gas business, any panic starts from one place, this place is called stella at the gas station, and you and i are definitely e- this panic, which the majority of ukrainians will confirm on february 24 of last year, affects this stela and the price

tags for these ceilings. won't get up even then we saw last weekend that there were even in kyiv , in other cities of ukraine, that there were crazy steps of queues at the entrance to the gas stations, but nothing happened. yesterday, i saw a lot of the country and the ceiling price has changed to a maximum of hryvnias, and this is very good, but i am always inclined to analysis and i want to call on you and call on your theory. do not curse the editors . i will say two sentences. you need to analyze . look when we got a shortage of e-fuel as a result of the shelling of our oil tanks. -e natural plants and e-e storage of processed refined oil for petroleum products it was may may april last year, then the government reduced e-e vat on e-enlightened petroleum products e-e

from 20% to 3%. it has rolled back since the first of this month. this is again by 17%, but look , the market edited correctly and the market raised by uah 3, but uah 3. sorry, this is by 17%. plus was like an excise tax for diesel and for e-e gasoline up to $100 per ton. and today it has been raised again to €213.5 per ton for gasoline and up to €139 for m-m e-e diesel fuel plus e there is a grain harvesting company ahead, there is a harvest, when there is always a shortage and the market reacts to this, raising the price of fuel, plus we understand what equipment works

, how much we do not say, stanislav. how am i i agree with you great you said thank you thank you all the best mr. stanislav thank you very much chairman of the council of the ukrainian renewable energy association general director of solar generation technical sciences and we have less than 15 left minutes to talk about ukrainians, in order to talk about ukrainians, we need to invite anton groshetskyi, the executive director of miss kyiv international institute of sociology, conducted another study that would surprise all normal people. you are a sociologist of good health, anton, not a philosopher and not a political scientist, but all the same, i

ask you. and how did it happen that they bomb from morning to night, people die, and 70% of ukrainians believe themselves happy, and only 16 consider themselves unhappy, what kind of nation is so unique, good evening, this is a unique ukrainian nation, a nation of heroes, in principle, it is possible to start the main interpretation of the results , by the way, we compare that this question is also studied by philosophers and political scientists, economists and sociologists, and in principle here what is wrong is that now 70% consider themselves happy and what is the fact that this indicator has not changed compared to what we recorded before the large-scale invasion and really the question is why, despite all these difficulties, all these the tragic living conditions of ukrainians do not become more untimely, which cannot be several , but the main reason is that ukrainians have revised the criteria, which for them is, well, it is important to be happy now we understand that for us it is a part of connecting nations in age or a common

enemy if our friends are close acquaintances there have good health, we work there a little, we will donate , it is already good, it means we are happy, everything is great. that is, all these factors in the aggregate, they are added to the stability of ukrainians, which is even in surveys, and this is important because if we were now a nation of unhappy people, then our partners from the west would tell us even more strongly that look, if you are so unhappy , this is how you negotiate with the russians. and we, on the contrary , show them that you know war as war, but do not think that we are unhappy here, everything is fine with us , if we work there let's move on. let's go to the moon of the enemy, but listen, and you don't, as they say in russian, that's okay, brad, and you haven't tried sociologists to somehow sit down at the same table with psychologists. i think they are very, very interesting, such a cross-trance, er, scientific discipline

could you. and just on the basis of ukrainian studies , what can there be something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, we, in, in anthropology, in anthropology, sociology will make some contribution. that you brought up a very important topic, a lot of ukrainian defeats in the history of ukraine were due to fatigue, this is true when the war is a year, two, three, four, and everyone just gets tired and says let's already come here and let's not fight, and here i am , by the way, i pray for exactly that here we have therefore, you did not come to say something to the sir and i am funding for sounds and a number of problems not yet form this process yet, but gradually there are really scholars who are more

studied more deeply and psychologists now have placed a very interesting explanation as a very interesting explanation the population adapts to older rallies and to what extent it, despite this terrible reality, is ready to live normally and continue to try as much as possible there with its head held high regarding fatigue we also published results on self-esteem this week the financial situation of the family and they testify to the same objectively, most of our people answer that their incomes have decreased , they have lost their jobs, there are problems with physical health and emotional health, because all this is difficult, but the self-assessment of their financial status has remained the same as it was new to the invasion, and this testifies to the fact that this fatigue has been postponed somewhere in the distant past, and this one is not there yet. of course , we are tired of our relatives. we ask do you want to surrender certain territories in order to achieve peace as soon as possible more than 80% say no let's fight on but

not make concessions to this aggressor couple anton see one more point of clarification i would like young people to be wealthier we feel happier okay but geographically it is interesting 75% of people in the west feel happy, and 60% and 60-9% fall in the east. why is it because there are fewer shootings in the west, or because in the west even before the war, they were more pro-european, while in the east they were pro-pro- are more pro-russian or pro-soviet, and that is why they still doubt this ukrainian happiness , what would they say? i would say that the first explanation is more true , it is more close to the contact line , it forms more such negative information that can make people suffer more and feel worse

because the closer the respondent is alive to the rooster , the more likely it is. you have friends, relatives who live and are in danger. to feel happy, but here it is fundamental that even in the east, even in the south, in the south and east, with all these difficulties and this war period, it is still the case that the majority is considered happy, because even among the immigrants , 54% consider themselves happy, so this is less than the average ukrainian level but if you imagine what these people who lost everything went through and were forced to move to adapt to a new place, and among them more than half consider themselves happy. that is, i am showing this once again about the positive side of the ukrainian nation in general about the fact that the ukrainian nation was formed in this way after the crucible of war only hardened people even more. well, if you use such lofty words to tell us about the ukrainian nation waging war against the russian nation, then the pro-russian nation should be talked about

. a good leader and correct politics are not my words are addressed to putin and his policies , and the words are 70% of russians who, according to levada , are the center of the sociological center of such a russian, these are 70 of such people, and you know what this proves, i will tell you honestly, i trust livadi and i listen very hard when they say that he is their leader , what are you listening to, believe the sociologists well, because you know there is such a part of sociology in russia as they say no, they are not telling the truth, they are afraid, they are actually a large number against tina. and i, because i was brought up in a family scientists, for a scientist from a proper scientist, the truth is important, he does not

publish something that contradicts the truth, he will definitely spend a long time looking for ways to describe true information in one, he is a scientist, there is no point in lying because he is not putin, after all, what kind of people live near us in the north and east. we, due to the lack of modern communication systems and technology , it is very difficult to see from such a height without an eyepiece church. they even conduct special experiments that show that the russians in the polls are not completely sincere , but mostly they answer sincerely and the position of lava is towards the center. as far as i understand, show that the results are terrible, but you will have to them to believe that the russians really think like that and it shows that

the political culture of ukrainians for various reasons, well, it is that away from moscow, moscow, we see that the moods of russians are completely different from ukrainians, and this is not washing bridges, this is not propaganda. imperialist sentiments that did not fade away after the collapse of the soviet union will only grow to 3 cm in ukraine . therefore, in fact, ukraine could develop by discussing things from various discussions there and as a result to go to certain more democratic higher degrees, and the russians threatened revenge in this swamp and the desire to prove to the whole world there, as they like to say, they will finally show kuzkinut mr. anton, and from your point of view, i understand that maybe you are not talking about this because you are scientists in the books are all there, but you can go to the smoking room like you used to and you just chat there, that is, without data, without

this, and just there, and when you chat , maybe you don’t smoke, maybe it’s not fashionable to smoke now , what do you say about the future of the russian people, when will it end or maybe it to finish, i'll tell you. i have my experience. personally, i was a patron for a while, well, i helped drug addicts and alcoholics a little bit . there, well, specific people opened up such an opportunity and invited me to just talk to them and for. i'm now looking at the russians. i then looked at drug addicts, the addict must tell himself that he is a drug addict and only then will he start to recover, well at least he won't start but will get a chance to recover and then i look at russia it 's drug addicts it's alcohol which drug addicts are not in

the sense of addiction but they are this this pride a strong empire, we will teach everyone here that it is like an addiction, like drugs, and in order to get rid of it , you have to say to yourself that i am sick, i need to be treated. when will this end and is it possible to change the heads of the russians? if you would go into a smoking room and you would be conquered, then i would say that i still do not see the future of the russians and i really do not see the mechanisms of how the democratization processes in russia can be carried out in a peaceful and calm manner. because now what you call narcotics or alka addiction is so much, but it is really part of the political culture and values ​​of russians that have permeated the whole society, you look at russian teachers, university professors , university rectors, the police, the law enforcement system, this is simply a totally degrading system and

simply replacing putin or someone in the leadership of the country will replace this aggressive teacher who tells his students that it is in principle a good topic to die in a war for russia, although it is simply wild to hear it for well, when students tell such a thing, and accordingly the question is possible for germany a total defeat , but everything is hard to believe, considering that russia has nuclear potential , so it is quite possible an option . in this same case we will talk about the russians. how is this component of the multinational russian people there? how do they talk about the russians - this is still a demographically dying category of the population. and honestly, at this moment i see only the future gradual degradation, we will only hope that it will not come to the use of nuclear weapons, perhaps the only way for this is if

there is suddenly another authoritarian leader. of the russians themselves, but to instill several generations of conditional democratic values ​​and such anti-imperial decolonization sentiments among the population, but this is a very long process, and the ukrainians already have this power inoculation in order not to even look in the direction of russia , mr. antono, the last question you c- research different i see that you d- look at russian sociology short answer is the collapse of russia a reality or is it a wish rather than a reality in a lot of my friends i don’t think i i i think fiiti and you, i also wanted it because russia has so much culturally taken root even among the various tuvan buryats and so on that apart from individual republics such as the caucasus, other republics even in tatarstan, the majority of the population if not half are considered to be ethnic russians and accordingly to divide it all as with the republics, it was difficult to imagine and only if there is

no ideal curtain from his circumstances on the internet 50x50 that you say thank you, the executive director of the kyiv international institute of sociology from huraj was in touch with us, he he told us about ukraine, he surprised me once again, i'm constantly surprised, i've lived here for 60 years and i'm still surprised for three more years, but you won't be surprised, you'll just get a lot of pleasure, because now iryna koval will appear and tell you what it is happening in ukraine and in the world, it is covered by the news on espresso tv. thank you, mr. mykola, i wish you a good evening, and i will tell you about the situation in kherson oblast in a moment, i just received a message, and also about the nato summit and