[000:00:00;00] more than 1.5 dozen people turned out to be, and this is actually the end of our next hour of the marathon, we will return with andrii at 10:00 o'clock, and now a moment of silence for all those ukrainians who died from russian aggression, for those ukrainians who died today, as a result of the dropping of aerial bombs by the russians and for those ukrainians who died in 501 days, it is a large-scale detachment and for all these nine years of war

, we will commemorate with a minute . my greetings are freedom of the morning. i congratulate you and we will start the return of defenders to mariupol from turkey home, how ukraine managed to achieve the release of military commanders who, under the terms of the exchange, could and should have been in turkey until the end of the war, and whether russia was really not informed. zelensky has not yet decided whether he will go to the nato summit in vilnius, a state of the alliance, in the meantime, is frantic , this was a direct quote, they are preparing a decision on security guarantees for ukraine. politico writes the publication. so what to expect from an event that can change

world security in the direction of bakhmut , russian forces are on the defensive, he says the deputy minister of the painter and the commander of the ground forces talks about a trap for the russian military what is happening on the flanks of the bakhmut and how events will develop there, we will hear further in the analysis from the ukrainian defender well, the main intelligence department announces the time of retribution that has come, this is also a very interesting video that was published this morning we will talk about this further, if you watch youtube but have not yet subscribed to the radio freedom channel, be sure to do so. that way, we will always be in touch with you. also comment on what you saw in this broadcast and share the video with your friends on the southern flank of bahmut there is a certain advance of the forces of the armed forces of ukraine, a message about this appeared in the telegram channel of the deputy minister of defense of ukraine anna malyar, according to her , russian forces are on the defensive on the northern flank near in bakhmut , the fighting continues without changes in the situation, says the painter, the commander of the ground forces, oleksandr syrskyi, also

reports on the advance of the armed forces of ukraine in the direction of bakhmut and adds that in some places , russian forces find themselves in a trap. the russian ministry of defense did not mention in the last day's summary of the battles for the city of bakhmut that the truth was that in a separate message they published a video in which a tankist talks about repelling an attack by the armed forces of the soviet union on a soldier in the artemiv direction and explains the complexity of combat work in this direction by the features of the area . meanwhile, the head of chechnya, ramzan kadyrov, just yesterday in the evening, he reported about the transfer of his fighters from the akhmat special forces unit to the bakhmut direction, he published a video in which a kadyrov man named allaudinov was allegedly in the area of ​​klishivka, which is in the south direction from bakhmut and added that such rotations testify to the high trust of the russian general staff and the high combat capability of the unit operationally in war conditions. we cannot verify where this video was shot. but as early as the beginning of june, an analyst of the american institute for the study of war reported that the russian authorities are probably trying to increase

the number of the chechen units of the kadyrov on the front line in donbas to compensate for the withdrawal of the forces of the wagner pvc and to try to intensify offensive operations from the outskirts of the settlements near bakhmut, which were freed during the offensive of ukrainian troops, the bodies of the dead are evacuated for exhumation, the correspondent of radio freedom of the donbas project reports the realities, so in 5 days on the liberated outskirts of bakhmut, 85 bodies were exhumed , among the remains they found the bodies of three ukrainian soldiers and 82 russian remains belonging to people who died around february in march, one of the fighters had a wagner chevron, the other had a certificate of acceptance of the watch issued by the penitentiary , donbas reports the realities after experts on the bodies of russian soldiers should be exchanged for bodies the signs of the dead ukrainian fighters are as follows: if this zone has self-defense, they have already done hepatitis or the eye is infected

with tuberculosis, this means that when a person works with him with a wounded person, she knows that he has such sores as tuberculosis or something like that , only this is a white bracelet yes, it is white, there are white and yellow. we saw red bracelets and on the bodies, it means that a person is sick. petro kuzyk , commander of the freedom battalion, part of the fourth operational brigade of the national guard of ukraine, the major is already in touch with us. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine heroes thank you, mr. petro. please tell me how the night passed in the direction of bakhmut, what is the situation at the front as of now, maybe there are certain changes in the advancement of the armed forces, about which we can already say good, good, that means without losses , that's why we are constantly there, well, they are like that now for us

, such a category is e- the battles will be very dynamic, very dense, the enemy is resisting, so you know, such jerks do not happen there, but gradually such an offensive is coming, and he is going, and if the enemy does not take any drastic other actions , he will, well, all the territories will released by in this direction, the enemy is quite strong, seriously fortified, i always say this is the result of our calculations 13, they were seriously scared and prepared seriously, there are areas eh there, it depends on the terrain, where the enemy seriously strengthened himself for a penny, accumulated eh, serious engineering was concreted there it is much more difficult there . this is what you are pointing out that the russian forces are actually breaking through in the defense in the direction of bakhmut

, and what deputy minister malyar says about that, that is, that there are these fortifications, these special protective zones have been created that allow to defend themselves from the ukrainian military, yes, but there are areas where they are trying, they are trying to counter attack , they are being pushed quite seriously , but they are cutting everything, that is, the situation is not simple. they are pouring in where they managed to strengthen themselves. well, for now, they are still trying to resist, for example, those areas where they used these, instead of wagner, storm z - this is basically the same office, only they have

a contract directly from the ministry of defense well this the captives are already telling only that, er, go to the prisoners, they also throw such fire horns, mindless assaults . what do they hope for? it's not clear, nice. well, how is this course to shoot down, er, confuse plans, and that 's where there are many of these fines, they try to storm with them, and the result is, but they really they interfere a little, because er, well, you have to be distracted, destroy them, they try to use such tactics, for example, they took away an area from their position, they try to recapture it, driving up on tanks under the very trenches, dropping directly from the tanks into the amphibious assault

i won't say that this is a new tactic for us, but it was not used in principle, but as a result, hmm, enemy tanks were burned, but in our area, in the last period, in two such tank attacks, seven tanks were burned , the first was 5 tanks, the second attack was already less, there were three tanks unfortunately, one escaped. but nevertheless, well, when there are tank assaults for the infantry , it is a serious test to fight back in such an area. for the infantrymen, it is difficult, plus you talked about the fact that with whom was replaced pvt .

in battles, it can change the situation on the front, which i always said that you can't belittle the enemy's capabilities or speak disparagingly about them, because it is the enemy and he is armed, especially the occupier as a representative of the occupier as uh the russian federation is armed to the hilt with old soviet equipment, often modernized and they pose a certain serious threat, but we met akhmat units back in the frontier, then partly in north donetsk, then we met with them under the neck in bakhmut, e-e 10 could not be found for a long time, but somewhere all- after all, our intelligence revealed nothing serious about them, they do not represent themselves, because

they are light infantry units. well, what we are talking about is, in fact, the well-armed, uh, personal police of kadyrov, which well, maybe it's good there it is controlled in the sports hall, it is well equipped, but uh, they don’t have serious specialists, as practice shows, maybe it’s some newly formed units , they will surprise you with something. tanks themselves and so on, it's so so so far so far those whom we met it was a vivid picture that in a real battle nothing surprised us, they disappointed us the most because

we were expecting some kind of super training from them and our infantry is there, why would there be cases when we put less-prepared infantry on the chosen ones on such remote flanks? well, in the direction of the attack, we put more experienced units with some evasive maneuvers. i mean, i went to these recruits, these recruits disassembled them into spare parts in battle, i'm not bragging, i was just surprised myself, and this is who for a long time was quite disappointed in their units, because, well , actually, if we expected much more from this unit, between us currently units akhmat has not yet been met in the direction of bakhmut. i mean somewhere there, well, in the next day or so, because about yesterday

kadyru reported about it . well, they met in theirs in the winter. there was no well, in the extreme, these new ones, with whom we faced the storm z well, what is it about in essence , the zeks are even less prepared and less motivated than from the vamyra, well, the whole russian army , look at it, you can’t say why not, and so on, it’s me annoying but nevertheless they have these are sorry, the thai units are more or less staffed and prepared, as a rule, these are airdrops there or markets. thank you. unfortunately, we have limited airtime. thank you for finding the opportunity to tune in . take care. the major was in touch with us about the situation in the makhmut

direction, we asked him five commanders of the defense of mariupol returned to ukraine, the commander at once, denys prokopenko on call sign raidis his deputy sviatoslav palamar with call sign kalina acting commander of the 36th separate brigade of marines serhiy volynskyi or volyn also major of the national guard oleg khomenko and colonel of the national guard denys shlega for the last 10 months all of them were in turkey somewhere in september 22 came directly from russian captivity, i remind you that then they were exchanged for the ukrainian politician putin's best man viktor medvedchuk, the russian ukrainian side declared that the extradition of the commanders to a third country is a condition for their release if they can return to the motherland, they will be able to return to the motherland only after the end of the war. however, on saturday, such commanders arrived in ukraine together with president volodymyr zelenskyi, who was on an official visit to turkey and met with the president of marjapta and erdogan , the released commanders were brought to lviv, there they held their first short briefing, except they have already announced that they plan

to return to the front. i am deeply convinced that the army is a team effort and today we are together with you. we will continue the fight. we will definitely we will say our word that in fear i want to thank mr. president i want to thank the whole team i want to thank everyone for finding this key they gave it to us and were able to open these handcuffs we came back and then we will do our job we are military we swore an oath no details the ukrainian authorities did not disclose the conditions of the commanders' return home, except that the representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense andriy dyusov stated in a public comment that the return of the commanders took place in accordance with all necessary procedures and norms international law ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy

, congratulating the commanders of the defense of mariupol at home , did not give details about it either, thanked the sbu intelligence and the president's office for their work. intentions if , by letting the commanders go home, turkey and ukraine violated international agreements , piskov also says that this decision is connected with the alleged failure of the ukrainian counterattack and preparation for the summit, you understand, preparations are underway for the very goal of nato , and you understand that in the context of this preparation, turkey was put under a lot of trust, and turkey itself, of course, being a member of nato, shows its solidarity with the north atlantic alliance. it is interesting that in some russian telegram channels the dismissal of the defense commanders from the latter was accepted as a public

slap in the face of russia on the part of turkey, for example telegram channel dva major, which constantly covers the course of the so-called special operation, so let me remind you that in russia they call it a full -scale war against ukraine. it says that this news caused outrage among the russian military and may in the future negatively affect the morale and psychological spirit of the soldiers, but the russian state news agency published news on sunday the comment of the occupation adviser to the head of the so-called dnr, yan gagin , in which he says that the return of commanders to the front will have only a media effect, supposedly will not affect the situation on the battlefield these minutes vasyl bodnar is already joining us. he is the extraordinary honorable ambassador of ukraine in turkey. i greet you. good morning. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes . thank you for finding the opportunity to join the broadcast. of a large team headed by president zelensky and directly the result of the visit itself, since agreements were reached at the highest level, but the preparatory

work lasted for several months and of course, this is a very important step, a very important moral stimulus for the ukrainian armed forces, and it shows how much the ukrainian state cares about each of its prisoners of war and, in particular , our heroes, the heroes of ukraine and e were here with us for a long time, but of course their place is at the front and they really wanted to go home, so now it has become a reality thanks to the practical actions of president zelenskyi and his team. now, when we talk about the team of people who participated in these negotiations, can you still name someone verse actually who was most involved it is clear that this ukrainian diplomatic corps worked and how difficult was the negotiation process in general, was the turkish side against how it all happened if it is possible to reveal any details look in fact almost the entire diplomatic corps was involved in this process they say the vanguard of president zelenskyi is, of course, the president himself, who you talked with president murdogan not only

during the visit, but there were also several telephone calls and contacts. of course, wherever such contacts could be found. of course, this is andriy borisovich yarmak, this is dmytro ivanovich kuleba, this is the minister of internal affairs, klymenko, and many other e-e special representatives who came to turkey and made direct arrangements. of course, this is a process , each time the process has its own peculiarities, but now we have a result and we have this result to be proud of, it is important for us that turkey is a strategic partner that makes decisions that are beneficial to ukraine, and we need to thank the president several times during at the press conference, he personally thanked president erdoğan for such openness and willingness to cooperate with ukraine in many directions, not only one pow at a time, but this is a process, and you see that every time there are peculiarities, of course , we do not bear the details in order for this process to continue in the future. please tell

me if there are any conditions for the return of the defenders of ukraine to their home. maybe they asked for something in return from ukraine . features, er, what were the features? yes, i don’t know, maybe they tried to trade with ukraine somehow or something else, if you can talk about it. of course, we are not talking about such a thing . look, turkey is an intermediary , which is currently the only state that managed to bring to the negotiating table component parties, the results of this were the grain agreement and the exchange of prisoners of war and the preliminary negotiations in istanbul. that is , again, this is an ongoing process that has its own peculiarities and the peculiarities of the negotiation conversation with the turkish side about it and communication between and russia, you probably remember that last year there were direct meetings of the e-e body with putin, this caused a very strong reaction in ukrainian society, a negative reaction, i spoke on the air then and you can find it in public access about what the council

is telling you about prisoners of war and that was just in august, and just in september they were returned , that is, let's talk about the result and not about the process and look for details in them , in fact, any conditions that i would know about the return of our military personnel were not nominated and this is on the contrary, this is precisely the peculiarity of his position on the turkish side as a mediator who provides so-called good services in order for the process itself to continue, of course her role in this is also important because the ratings also rise and the position of a global player of turkey in this case only strengthens, and of course it is also necessary to take into account the leverage and interdependence of russia and turkey in a certain way and the possibility of making such decisions based on on our own interests, because let's not count that this is only a good thing on the part of ukraine, but it is also a strengthening of the position . by the way, in communication with the russian side, but

it is important that the moment regarding the russian side piskov, putin's spokesman, stated that no one in russia did not warn, maybe you know something more , that is, after all, what happened happened absolutely without the participation of russia, not even in terms of a phone call to moscow or to the cream about the fact that we intend to release the commanders of azov there and other military men go home, because it was previously agreed that until the end of a large-scale war, actually five of these commanders will remain under the protection of turkey. it is possible to say something, so what does russia have to do with it? eh different topics on his own responsibility and to make of it eh well for himself vpr is offended impressed minus eh from the point of view of bilateral relations between individual between turkey and russia there were clear signals from president erdoğan he public about what is expected of putin in august. where they will probably discuss all the specifics of their relations. and i will say that this

is a very large dependence of both russia on turkey and turkey on russia in various aspects , therefore, uh, these are also levers of influence on each other and dialogue well, it can happen according to their interests, but as for our fighters, they were returned to the territory of turkey, and the result of the return to ukraine is the negotiations with the turkish side between ukraine and turkey , not the russian side, here it is more reminds me of an anecdote, you know about how a patient comes to the doctor and says the doctor ignores me, he says. the next one, why did it have to be mentioned? because when it was actually possible to bring ukrainian commanders to turkey, then it was about the agreements between turkey and ukraine and russia, in fact, what they would be to stay there until the end of the war. therefore, this is also an important point, one more question , maybe we can already talk about that, by the way, we talked repeatedly with the parents of ukrainian commanders who were in

turkey, and they also expressed their gratitude to you for the fact that you were constantly in touch with the prisoners. and now it is possible to talk about the conditions of their detention , because they were in turkey all this time, what they had, what they did not have. maybe something could not be disclosed then, we can say now . look, i i can tell a lot of things. i know about all the peculiarities of their life and stay and the peculiarities of communication , but in this case i will be a plagiarist because it can actually take away their right to say it themselves. they are now in ukraine . i think they will also have access to the press. they will tell about all this on their own. i will only say that they actually became members even for our team of our family, we cooperated very closely with them, interacted , helped as much as we could and for us it is in a certain way also such a very sensitive personal topic. i would say because uh they are really very sincere and open people, and what they would most like to do is to return home and return to the army. thank god, thanks to our joint efforts, these dreams have come true, and now we will see how they

will implement their dreams in practice. support by turkey and of ukraine's membership in nato, rudogan says that ukraine deserves to be a member of nato, as you can see, support may look like the same things will happen tomorrow from the united states, a clear signal was sounded that no one will propose full membership in nato to ukraine tomorrow and most likely, this one will end with the fact that ukraine will not become a full member , how can turkey influence this process in matters that are particularly diplomatic, let's say yes, the missions you lead in this direction as it is now looks like well, in fact, it has already been voiced, this phrase that ukraine deserves membership, it reflects the strategic position of turkey regarding the atlantic integration of ukraine, and this position has always been in favor of ukraine, and we have never heard that turkey said anything against ukraine's membership in nato is just that turkey's position is less public than others and the actions taken to

support ukraine. they have a more practical dimension, it is like a dialogue within nato to reach a consensus because this is the basic story. there will be one against, then the decision will not be made. therefore, it is now and everyone understands very well that it will not happen in villars. but in vilnius , a drawn road must be drawn. is there a road map drawn that will show how we have, how and when we should get a full hundred members of the north atlantic alliance from the turkish side, why do i say strategic , because for turkey, ukraine's entry into nato solves a lot of practical issues, the first is the protection of the northern flank, because in this case, we are a country that borders on the north e-e from turkey we will in fact provide the same strategic security, this is the creation of greater stability and security in the black sea region and since we are friendly countries cooperating in many areas

, including the military and technical, in this case we energetically approach the attitude to security in the black sea. the third is, of course, the problems associated with the opposition to russia, and i will remind you that today turkey is a country that , to one degree or another, is at war with the second in the world . is it fighting against russia or has it fought against russia? the downed plane to the confrontations in the left of syria in the south caucasus and the political confrontation in the balkans and central asia, so the fact that we now have open communication between putin and erdogan does not mean that there are no contradictions and or that they have been resolved, this is also the situation in syria is now showing how strong turkey's position is and how , let's say, the influence of the russian side on making specific decisions is decreasing. of course , this is a process that will continue and the main goal on which we are now concentrating is to turkey supported the consensus, if it is reached, this is the main thing, and also convinced

other members of the north atlantic option to support ukraine and create opportunities so that, in the foreseeable future, we received the status of a member state, not a candidate member, but after the meeting of president zelenskyi with president erdogan, what impressions did the turkish side have , there is probably already a history of how it was afterwards, so what can we know now, what can you tell , of course, and the turkish colleagues, since the president was that the second day we also talked about it and the turkish press of course it created such a uh how can you call it the effect of a bomb that exploded because for many it was unexpected first of all that the president would come it was done in a very closed mode from the point of view of security and this has already been done - an important role since president zelensky is extremely popular in the world and in turkey as well. the second is of course the results of their negotiations and the announcement of the agreement. we also, if you

know, signed a special memorandum there on cooperation in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles, this is the development of previous agreements on the construction of a plant by the baker matina company in ukraine, therefore this process is very fruitful and complementary , it is not based only on our interests , but taking into account the interests of the turkish side and of course it causes great admiration that, first of all, in turkey , the opposition to ukraine is also perceived as an extremely positive story and the level of public perception is quite high, on the other hand, what president redagan stated that this is actually a signpost for turkish society about the need to support ukraine and develop cooperation for mutual benefit. finally, very briefly about the grain corridor, whether it will work again or whether it will stop on july 17. if i am not mistaken, the actual date of the agreements is ending. is there a chance to continue what positions ? parties, as far as is known, are not working there for the past two weeks, not a single ship

has entered the black sea, and only eight or nine ships have left from odessa, e.e. the southern is generally blocked by the black sea, nothing does not enter, that is, the russian side has been for a long time through this coordination center, does not allow the passage of ships, does not carry out inspections, and this will cause us big problems , of course, we expect probable negotiations in the coming days about whether to continue the negotiations. we will see how far we can achieve this, and i cannot say that this it is in the interests of turkey and ukraine and many countries in the world to continue this grain corridor, and if the aggressor country does not agree to its continuation, we should look for a literary version. i think that for enabling vasyl bodnar, the ordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in turkey, was our guest, we actually talked about the release of ukrainian comments who had been in turkey