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[000:00:00;00] былы вымерное время well, then it would be second to none now, wars a-a and at the same time he has a bunch of people there who are not very sure about something . the fact that putin cannot feel as confident as he did 10 years ago in a situation when he was told that there are some permissible conversations . secondly, he is in the war and every critical moment threatens the goalkeeper just to the point that he falls off the cliff together with his entire military company, so i think that this is unfortunate if you also finally formulate all putinism , imagine yourself such a creeping right-wing coup
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there is such a slowly stretched one during the time no no one-day but in what parts through the points and here it is very much it is a hop and one more as if it were a move to the right well there is not much good here because after all the hydron eh of course those people who stop beauties, they are also recognized as a hawk, hawks - on the one hand, they are distant rocks, and on the other hand, they are also a party to the fact that this russian public swamp has finally been cleaned. yes, the liberals have already been cleaned there. now they will clean it, apparently too loudly patriots, who are probably already annoying these facebook followers, but as a result of this new right- wing coup, such a flower of evil will grow unconditionally or not at all
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during the past week and at least try to look into the week that lies ahead of us in order to be well if we are not ready for that what could happen is at least informed because information is also power okay before i introduce my guest today i will do what i always do at the beginning of every program every week that is i want to remind those who watch us on youtube you can watch on the general espresso channel and also on the channel created specially for the world at war program, so on this special channel every week we ask you a question to which we want to hear your answer , and today's question is no exception today we delivered to you, obviously not the original, but it is exactly what it should be today the day before nato in vilnius, which starts tomorrow, so
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what was promised to ukraine, they will promise us in ukraine at the nato summit in lithuania. the first option is joining the alliance. the second is long-term support . the third is your option. please give answers to your questions somewhere in the middle of the program, i will add the intermediate results . let's see how you answer this question . well, at the end, it's obvious that there will be a full stop in this voting. well, and at the end, maybe even we will have to go off the air for a few minutes, because in vilnius, well, at least a press conference is planned, a joint press conference of nato secretary general jens stoltenberg and the president, but you are the host of this, the host countries of this sami, that guitar player everywhere it is planned somewhere around 1:55 p.m. therefore, maybe we will just finish a little faster, and one more thing i would like to ask all of you who watch yours on youtube, please put
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your favorites under this one under this video if you liked the program, i really hope that you will like it, don't like it, if you don't like it, although why you might not like it, i don't understand , oh, and leave your comments , it's extremely important for us, we read your comments, and this is extremely important for that to, together with likes and dislikes, help promote the world during the war in the complex algorithm of youtube so that as many people as possible have the opportunity to watch this program, well, obviously today's main and probably the main topic is the nato summit in vilnius, which starts tomorrow and will be until the day after tomorrow, that is, tuesday and wednesday, and about this, but also about other things. i will talk today with pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019, mr. pavlo. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine
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. glory to the heroes. with you your viewers ours but first of all yours ours because the viewers are waiting for you know that your answers are very for well they are important for all of us so thank you very much for joining p see if last week the same i talked a lot about nato. that's it. last week the day before last, it could also be said that it was some kind of guesswork on coffee grounds. and what could be, what could be the day before the opening of the summit, we already have enough information to make sure that it didn't happen. i hope so. i hope fortune-telling over coffee and porridge. and i'm sure you have even more information . maybe even insider information, which if you can even share it with me, but look at the latest news of the last hour that appeared in ukraine's vinform space, it was made public by
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the minister of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba i here he said that they canceled the demand for the pdc, the action plan for nato membership for ukraine, mr. pavla. explain to our viewers what it was all about, when it appeared, and why. and if it is important for us that it was canceled well, i will remind you over the coffee grounds, what is the cry, what is it to you , coffeeman, they like coffee, uh, not coffee, what is the pdch? there was no need to guess over the coffee grounds, what is it to understand that this tool is for us and for nato, for us together during our approach
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to nato, it no longer works and will not work because of that he is completely bad, and first of all, he is from the 90s, he is a kind of logic, very structured, and he is about how to move gradually and ovulate slowly, complying with all possible and impossible bureaucratic and political requirements to nato during the war, it is the usual nonsense and after the war it will be meaningless, and it is absolutely clear to us and to us that this decision has actually been made. we will hear it there and see it in the near future. especially attitude this does not mean that we should not go
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forward and we should not adhere to nato standards and strive for them eh this would be bad for ukraine bad for the alliance in general for common solidarity there are things that concern the military eh various options are security there are of course general eh in nato they accept the unarmed forces are not the special services, but the country, the country as a whole, with its political system , with its stability, with its stability, democracy , the rule of law, and of course, we need a plan. more poor and political, but at the same time we do not receive a discount from nato , as i said, we will work on a different logic
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of accession, for me one of the key results would be if from toltonberg i would go to a press conference, you will hear him today the initial press conference with the president of lithuania, but then there will be a few more, but he would come out and say, i'm staying here for another year . i was asked by the allies, and this is actually a correct story, during the war, horses are not changed, and i say this with great respect who knows very well, we need such a good horse, which is respected by everyone, who is able to pull, who is able to achieve the unity of all allies, and we would really need him to come out.
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the first day after registration and in the near future a new entry visa for ukraine will be ready and we will discuss it then at the newly created ukraine nato council, here are five for me, a result that would be worthy and would warm our hearts, we would like more we would like an immediate invitation to the alliance, but as a result, at least this would be worthy, mr. pavlo. well, look at what you said. okay, we all understand that we will not be invited to nato. we will not become a member of nato. it is worth talking until the end, before our victory over the russians. now you say that you have taken away this bureaucratic mechanism that delayed our accession to nato, if, for example, this happens and jenstoutenberg comes out and says that i was instructed
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to write a new plan for ukraine's accession to nato this plan will be faster, this plan will not only be faster, it will be more ambitious, because it not only delayed, if the pdc was maintained , it made it difficult because it was moving with some er bureaucratic hooks. this does not mean that they are not needed at all, but the vision of ukraine joining nato after the war, during the war, it should be political. if you want it to be geopolitical, and the fact that there is no pdc actually means that nato is rebooting itself and us in the 21st century. look at recent history
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after the second world war, there were countries that passed from the conditions of the third world to the western, these are very different examples: japan, south korea, israel, singapore, own tamasa maturachchyna, there are many of them, but no one, even during this time and certainly no one in the 21st century, came so uh , ambitious, large-scale with the desire to join the european union and donated, and this means that not only geopolitics, but world politics in general is changing precisely because ukraine is changing it. right now and that is why i think it is critical that we need a new logic, and on this logic, well, jens will definitely work in the near future, uh, now you have another question. look, uh, until the last one, even until today. and in the end , i didn’t find any information before the program about whether
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the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, will definitely be at this summit, because the last thing i found was that he said we should hear something well, dmytro kuleba said that we will hear something and it is something important and very relevant for us that will push us to join nato . please tell me if you have any information or if there is any decision in the office of the president will they be like this or will president zelenskyy be at this summit? i think that this question should be asked where the president's office is and nobody here should engage in any speculations, but i think that today, even if the result is not the one that all ukrainians would like, no one will say to zelensky it is wrong not to go and i will say why if we are not
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allies at the same table if we do not talk with them about the future if we do not talk about military and financial aid personal after shaking hands with such a real so who will be happy, they will be happy in the kremlin well, agree, they will say, you see, they started some conversations there, some quarrels started there, and we should not give them even such an excuse, and everyone perfectly understands that we wanted more yesterday and that this is a fundamentally important issue, but at the same time, we understand the world, er, we understand that our allies have their own opinions, they do not share ours. since we are ready to raise the stakes, we have shown it, we are not afraid of anything
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, but some of our allies think that if ukraine is invited now, will it not be mean a direct path to a conflict with russia, including perhaps there is a conflict there, as then interpol, article 4 on immediate consultations in case of danger, and even more so article five on the collective baron, it is not automatic, you know very well, but nevertheless it is perceived as a basis of the entire western trans-atlantic security system to allow russia to somehow manipulate and increase the stakes, russia can if you want my opinion, it can raise the stakes and try to attack one of the nato countries to
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show that it is not working or together with us why not 100% can, especially putin in today's reality when after the prigozhin putsch many people understand that his situation is weaker than before or are you for the internal russian situation we will also see in the near future and the second part of the arguments i of course deliberately simplify it tomorrow's russia, where its leader is the head of its regime in a weaker institution , is this not an unpredictable situation anymore, or should we maintain a strong position and not go for escalation, which can be considered in the kremlin as provocation and what to do with this russia in general, since it is clear that the problem
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is not only with putin and not with the russian elites , but also with the russians . now there i can continue through someone until the stoltenberg press conference and on the seat a is of course not going to do it, but it is very important to understand that our western allies want victory over this regime, but they see this victory as controlled, they do not want escalation, they don't want the risks of seizing nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction, they don't want the risks of a sharp destabilization of the situation, because it will also affect other markets, there are oil markets or metal markets, and for us this is a consideration
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when we see the strikes of people and at night when we see how we are losing the most valuable thing that we have, it's people, this argumentation is on the one hand, hmm, it's so rational. it's understandable, but emotionally, no. but nevertheless, we're already going to nato, we're going to the eu, we understand what it is our allies, we have no other allies and we have to try to combine them. arguments and our arguments, which are largely emotional, this is our task, so i believe that participation in this summit is an important decision, of course, for volodymyr zelenskyi, and we will respect any of his decisions, he feels this is in constant dialogue with the leaders of our allies. but i believe that we should not allow russia or even china or
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anyone else to point fingers at us and say, well , you see, they, er, are engaged in the fact that the west is increasing, but nevertheless, they are already internal problems and quarrels, that is, everything that serves the kremlin definitely does not serve our benefit, and we are responsible people and we understand this well, mr. pavlo, look. last year , the nato summit was also held in madrid, and there it was so obvious that they talked about ukraine because the war had already lasted six months. well a little less than six months, and now it has been going on for one and a half years, there is some kind of change, this shift is inserted into the support of ukraine in the middle of the leaders of the nato countries . i suspect that there will be some surprises during these two days, which were talked about by, for example, the prime minister of estonia, who is the same
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, the same president of lithuania, and they all somehow set us up for a settlement, that there will be something else. that is, it is very important for us in your opinion, the summit will go down in history simply as historical for ukraine or fateful for us. everyone is a test right now. agree, every nato summit or every summit is historic for us . will it be fateful for me ? that ukraine is going to nato, just as they once made a decision that ukraine is going to the european union, but this is not the only one for us, not a summit , just as it is, they made a decision that we are going, someday there will be the beginning of official negotiations, then there will be membership, that is, there are milestones in our history, they
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do not consist of only one of one of two or three events eh i think we are always prone to white and black treason victory but relying on one summit eh normal important but nevertheless we have to achieve the result the result for us it is ours membership in the alliance as well as even being in the alliance does not mean that automatically our security is fully ensured and there is nothing more to do, the russian regime will continue to exist in one form or another well, we are in the world , of course, somehow inside we hope not but that's not the case we are less likely to assume that the russian regime will be this or that , let's see. we will need to continue to defend ourselves and be part of a common strategy to contain this regime, a common
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nato common is a village strategy , so again it is historical or fateful let's leave it to the historians, they will write interesting books there. maybe someone will read them. now is the time to create history, not to write history textbooks. i would like it to become both historical and fateful . maybe one day you will write about it in your book. and i would really like to see it, and now about the ukraine nato council , which, er, on wednesday, appears at lunch, er, at 1:00 p.m. i don't remember exactly the work schedule. why is it more important than just the ukraine committee nato that has existed until now and why the same well, somehow there are a lot of our experts er and non -experts just those who like to talk put their hope on this very council why it is
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important special hopes simply this is really a step forward er for us it is important er and the signal is important for putin. do you remember the year 1997 ? a mechanism is being created commissions are a good mechanism, but nevertheless, they were created by this council against the background of the fact that the russian nato council is nowhere, it says that the attitude towards ukraine will never be secondary, that we are at the same table and no one
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like the hungarians will then try to manipulate it and delay something there or say we are going to not going to play we are not playing this is an important path of poets for us it is very important that the council discusses serious issues, i.e. our security our defense mother-in-law alliance no individual allies namely alliance ego быть для украина well, actually moving forward, because as i said, there will still be a new plan, a new line, call it what you want, and we need to understand and what to do for it , discuss how we will implement it together. is somehow positive news, so definitely is the council a substitute for what we need, well, of course not. but nevertheless
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, we are gradually building a framework with our membership in nato, and the council is one of the elements. good . we need to build this framework as soon as possible together with our nato allies, mr. pavly, look according to the rules of television, we have to go to commercials now, unfortunately, but it will be short. i ask you to stay in touch with us and we will meet with you and the audience already. literally in a few minutes, a two-in- one nailer it does not require cutting the nail and it is easy to apply it twice a day it penetrates deeply destroys stops the reproduction of the fungus brightens the color of the nail neyner two in one it is proven effective visible result convenient use in joints and spine, osteochondrosis, gout , radiculitis, arthritis and arthrosis, with all these problems, you will find dicrasin, a means for external use, useful

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