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[000:00:00;00] the office is 11 effective components to protect your eyes glaufix sharp vision lasts forever 503 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers to your attention news on espresso anzhelika sezonenko works in the studio i would like to remind you that the first day of nato continues in vilnius and we will include it in this issue our correspondent in order for her to tell what is currently happening at the summit, what statements have already been made, and so far, before other news, the head of
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the makarov court, oleksiy tandyr, was drunk fatal road accident, the latest alcohol intoxication, this was confirmed by the forensic medical examination, the dbr also established that the judge was driving a car at a speed of 100 km/h. there are three children left, 26 of the 28 shaheds were shot down by ukrainian defenders this night, he is forming the air force of ukraine, the occupiers attacked our country from the south-eastern direction, in addition, during the past day, defenders destroyed three-strike uavs and five reconnaissance drones, our aviation hit enemy positions more than 20 times, two enemy drones hit the administration
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building of a port facility in odesa region, the regional military administration was also informed . were liquidated without casualties or critical damage, in a comment to espresso , the head of the joint press center of the siloboronipdnya natalya humenyuk noted that the enemy was preparing in advance to of such an attack, the power of the attacks itself, more than 21, and which were launched in several waves in the direction of the black sea water area, indicates that the enemy prepared for it carefully and planned it precisely for the relevant events, taking into account what is happening in the world today, and in the morning the russians tried to attack kyiv with martyrs our defenders shot down all the targets on the approaches to
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the capital, the city military administration says, however, fragments of iranian drones fell in the fastiv and obukhiv districts of the region, the state emergency service reported that 12 were damaged there of private houses and a high-rise apartment block, doors, windows, facades and roofs were broken, the head of the regional military administration , ruslan kravchenko, clarified that fortunately there were no victims and victims. new evidence against the russian agents was revealed by the security service. recorded how those involved discuss the preparation of a series of explosions in the places of deployment of units of the security service and
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the national police in order to commit terrorist attacks the fsb planned to send a parcel with ten kilograms of plastid to its agents. another 540 russians were joined by our defenders to the dead alliance , a total of 235,000 20 invaders were already united there. systems , eight units of special equipment, four tanks and the same number of multiple rocket launcher systems in the general staff add that the
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approximate data went to the bottom, so to speak, in russia the commander of the krasnodar submarine, stanislav verzytskyi, according to ukrainian intelligence, was killed around six o'clock in the morning during a run , an unknown person fired seven bullets at him from makarov's pistol, after which rzytskyi ran away, died on the spot due to heavy rain, the park was deserted, so no witnesses to the incident were found before the ukrainian the media reported that it was on the orders of the murdered man that almost a year ago , caliber cruise missiles were launched at vinnytsia . at that time, 27 people died in the city, including three children. the eliminated rzhytskyi was also deputy chief of mobilization work in krasnodar during the riot, the wagnerites reached the nuclear base in voronezh 45, the head of the main intelligence department kyrylo budanov said, prigozhin's mercenaries moved north
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towards moscow on june 24, and a contingent of military vehicles turned east along the highway in the direction of the fortified russian army bases and stored nuclear weapons, the militants wanted to capture part of the nukes in order to raise the stakes of the insurgency, but they were unable to open the doors to the storage facilities because of the small nuclear charges that were carried in portable backpacks, this is one of their main storages, this is another reason why they went there, because to use a nuclear charge. let's say for a ballistic missile. well, in principle, you can't use a nuclear backpack. yes, it's absolutely real, such long-awaited statements at the nato summit have already
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taken place the first briefings, of course, they also talked about ukraine. and what exactly does our correspondent natalya know from the crossing , who is in vilnius? natalya, i congratulate you again, and tell me who and what has already been said at the summit, anzhelika. congratulations, studio. the first day of nato began right here in vilnius, the leaders of the country, the leaders of the alliance countries continue to arrive, in particular, representatives from ukraine also arrived among us, and people 's deputy oleksiy goncharenko, who today already managed to ask a question for jensus stolton stolton perga, mr. oleksiyu, please tell me , not everyone heard, what did you every day , the secretary general of nato , i congratulate you, you are extremely important to us.
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out of the documents of this summit, the words of invitation for ukraine , the invitation to nato, and invitations or invitations because it is fundamentally important for us . borborotsya, but if this word does not come, it will be a disappointment for many ukrainians , and janstotenberg answered, what is that? there and be sure there will be a positive and very strong message for ukraine, in particular, about the path to membership by oleksiy so genstonberg announced that in a few hours we will hear
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a-ah sh- the acceptance of the communique, which will be what brings good news for ukraine, in your opinion, what it will be approved and how much closer ukraine will become to nato membership, right now the struggle continues. eastern europe , led by lithuania, poland, other countries for us , great britain, italy, france, for turkey, not against e unfortunately for germany, the usa is against, and the key the word of the usa is definitely because if the usa says so, then i think that germany also already supports everything and right now this struggle is going on , there was an attempt to agree on the wording yesterday, it did not succeed at the level of ambassadors because, thank god , eastern europe did not retreat, uh, today , the next attempt to at two o'clock they have to agree on the text, whether it will be possible to do it or not , we'll see, but right now, all the hours , see this historical for us, for everyone, for ukrainians, for future generations of ukrainians
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, that's the question. well, we keep our fists, we work for moreover, i am here to convey this message. yesterday i had the opportunity to meet with american senators, ambassadors , er, today, as you can see, we continue to work, and jenstoutenberg and other heads of state governments have just met the prime minister of estonia , talked and so on. that is, this is our task achieve all these words of the invitation, that is, yes, let everything be an invitation that is still unofficial , corresponding to article ten of the washington treaty, because we have no chance at this summit, but the words that ukraine has already been invited are the only ones that remain official let's arrange it a little later. this is what we have to squeeze out. it is fundamentally important for us. well, we will see if it will be agreed by two o'clock, as they plan. will it be postponed further, but we must fight to the end. we are waiting for the president
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of the united states of america, joe biden, to speak today, what will he say, we will hear later. well, tomorrow the president of ukraine and the president of the united states will meet, more about decisions and clear steps introduction and to ali in general ukraine in nato we will find out later i pass the floor to the studio thank you and our correspondence nataliya stare pravo and oleksiy goncharenko to the people's deputy of ukraine who voiced for us the first statements that are heard at the nato summit, of course today should be a historic decision for us so we are following and reporting everything is live for you first. this is what i'm finishing up for now. see you at 12:00. my colleagues andriy saichuk and lesya vakulyuk continue to work for you , dear friends. let's go back to avatar and now
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we'll talk about a topic that worries poles in first of all, ukrainians, and also about our common history during the second world war , about the volyn tragedy, exactly july 11 in poland is the day when the memory of those who died during the tragic events in volyn in 1942-1943 is commemorated . well, actually the day before both presidents of the two countries, andrzej duda and volodymyr zelenskyi, laid flowers at the memorials of the dead, and what is interesting is that not all ukrainian users, of course, because few people in ukraine still understand and know what the volyn tragedy is, because it is ukrainian history it is so complicated that ukrainians are only now , most ukrainians are beginning to learn about the history of ukraine, er, to open its pages for themselves, so some users who know
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what the volyn tragedy is, noticed such an interesting thing in the way that andrzej duda presented the president actually presented his own e- e information on my page as my private one because i am duda and on my page as the president of poland and actually the post was somewhat different there and there because on the page e-e from the office of the president of poland it was noted so that we together we honor the memory of all the innocent victims of volyn, and memory unites us together, we are stronger, but actually according to andrzej duda himself , he sounded a little different, if we can show him now, i will try to translate it to
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lutsk in volyn, and in the commemoration of the bloody bloody week together with president zelensky, we honored the memory of the murdered poles, and there was no longer talk of a victim on both sides. this actually caused some questions and misunderstandings, and now we will talk about this, in particular, about how in poland they are now talking about the events that happened on volhynia in the last century between the poles and the ukrainians and how now they believe that we have a full-scale invasion and our peoples have become quite close and we thank the poles for stupidity this is the support they give us to what extent here is this page from history again spoiling our current relations that can be said began to be restored and how to finally pass this page so that we do not spoil our relations and that the russians in particular do not take advantage of this oleksandra hnatyuk is a polish researcher in the field of ukrainian studies
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, a professor at the university of warsaw we also add to our etar, oleksandr, we congratulate you. good day, mrs. oleksandr. well, ukrainians actually know about the volyn tragedy, because unfortunately, not all ukrainians know what it was. not all ukrainians know ukrainian history well even to the end not the same, not to mention some pages related to the history of ukraine and the history of poland, so those who know have noticed such discrepancies between what people wrote to angela on their page and what sounded on his page as on the page office of the president, why did this happen? this is a sign that there is an election campaign ahead in poland, or whatever it was. in fact , it is about much deeper problems and
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processes, and these are certain misunderstandings within the polish society itself. the group that defeats the demands of the polish side is about a group of so-called handsome men , headed by eh or the spokesman who became eh father tadeu-60 from izolaska and eh these hm, first of all, the verbal altercations continue no the first year, it has been going on for at least 8 years, and in each case, it became such a hot topic after 2015, that is, after the right-wing forces came to power, led
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by er, with law and justice and this kind of blackmail arranged by the father and sakovich zelenskyi, er, to almost all polish politicians. and most of all, it is from the right side, er , with spinning this er, this er topic, in the end, not only this but, but in particular, this one. this encourages everyone to er -e radicalization of one's own rhetoric and in fact, it turns it into the opposite direction of criticism against ukraine with against ukrainians against ukraine but well, in fact, this is a kind of schizophrenia, which consists in the fact that on the one hand we support ukraine and ukrainians in
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the struggle for dependence on for the reconquest of their territories for future security and on the other hand on the other hand, we are making more and more demands when it comes to historical issues and such. well, i wouldn't call it blackmail, but there are such high hopes that since poland and the poles have supported how strongly and how much they expect ukrainians to in place of a-and namely e recognition of what happened in 1943-44 is a manifestation of genocide, and this
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is exactly what the ukrainian side categorically does not accept, understanding that there is a certain clear definition of genocide and that that anton shrojnych emphasizes in his interview, which was published today in the polish media , that there can be no difference between how we interpret genocide, if the civilian population is destroyed, and in a polish village, this is genocide if the ukrainian population in a ukrainian village is destroyed, it is no longer genocide
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paid promotion these are the double standards in poland . genocide is the first place, when the first place should be the memory of the innocent civilian victims of this conflict, because there was definitely a conflict, and it is definitely poles, poles died during this conflict, much more. how many? times more, it is no longer no, well, it shouldn't be the main question, the main question should be the commemoration of the innocent victims, both from the polish and ukrainian sides , and this is exactly the message that president volodymyr zelenskyi gave that we remember the innocent
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victims of this conflict, and the hierarchy of our churches also call for this e-e in particular his beatitude svyatoslav shevchuk e-e in particular e-e metropolitan epiphany epiphany i.e. and it is clear that this process e-e commemoration e process of reconciliation it continues not not from today not from the visit because i am very fond of lutsk and not from meeting andrzej duty with it started a long time ago with president zelenskyi, it has been going on for more than 40 years, and at the beginning it was primarily the hierarchs of the greek catholic church and the roman catholic church who, on the eve
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of the millennium of baptism, made such an appeal to trust me, this process has been going on for more than 40 years, it is far from over , and the ukrainian polish historian has a very big role to play, and it seems to me that there is still a lot of work to be done, an example of a well-done job is the first volume of a multivolume a study under the chairmanship of my colleague ihor galagida, which was published in the journal, which was dedicated to the ukrainian victims of this conflict during the second world war in folusha and in these territories, which
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are in today's poland, about volyn about eastern galicia at the exit i think that it will show quite well the scale of this conflict, it will put its own not just accents , but it shows the scale of this conflict in terms of the number of victims and returns the names of these victims, that is, the conviction that impossible to already know the personalities of the dead turned out to be absolutely not wrong, ukrainian researchers refuted this , in this very issue, which was published the year before last, and which will have a continuation of this and the next and
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in the following years. a huge disparity in the overall assessment of the events of the 43rd and 44th years in volhynia, while for poland , the zhek actually cites the hoe of the polish researcher of this topic, the historian - this is the topic of volhynia and the volhynia tragedy or as often in poland is told that the volyn massacre, that is, the massacre , is such a fundamental cornerstone , to a certain extent, of such an awareness of the role of the poles and their role as victims of the people. contexts, and in particular, a good illustration was the moment when the poles were surprised, for example, when general zaluzhny sat against the background of bandera's portrait, so that pre dnister muravetskyi was even forced
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to compare bandera and putin, which in turn absolutely did not cause a deaf misunderstanding here in ukraine, because for a ukrainian it is precisely in the mythology in which we currently exist that bandera is the absolute antipode, he is a symbol, let's say so, of the struggle and rebellion against russia, the moscow empire, and here it shows how much we very some parallel if they are perpendicular courses exist precisely in the mass consciousness from the acceptance of popular with the popular acceptance of history so is it really enough just the work of historians in order to at least some such to overcome at least a little this gap in the perception of the history of these events between our peoples, thank you very much for this question, this is a more general question about the role of historians and about what influences
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the mass consciousness the most, and it is obvious that the mass consciousness is influenced to a lesser extent by historians but historians can always play a very, very significant role without clear research without very thorough research well, this mass consciousness can be extremely distorted and this is exactly how it looks today in the case of poland in the end, in the case of ukraine, this also manifests itself, although to a much lesser extent, because history does not play such a central role for ukrainians as it does for polish identity, it is different ways of form of identity, one cannot say one is better and the other is worse - they are simply different as
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different there are our societies, they are very close culturally, but when looking at the formation of identity, they are very different when it comes to what affects the mass consciousness the most, this is this, this is certain manifestations of mass culture and in this way, the film volyn influenced the polish mass consciousness very strongly in ukraine, as did a similar film, hmm, which had such an impact on the mass consciousness not only in this topic, but in many other topics , this is simply not the first point when it comes to what is a sacrifice of the people and i, it is being formed, i will draw your attention to the next delta detail july 11 is celebrated
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as a day of remembrance for the victims of the volyn tragedy, of course in poland it is not called the volyn tragedy think that not the wording of the volyn tragedy as a diminutive, here i open the parentheses, but they are short, and i will explain only that the name a itself has a huge influence on how we think about it, if we call it genocide, if we call it a massacre, it has an impact on the way we form an image, our good colleague myroslav the czech once said that hmmm we don't know if there is a desire to forgive until the end what we have formulated because we never understand what exactly radicals want the most from us until the end a conversation
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but we hope to continue it, because this topic has reasons for your academic year, exactly for conversation, because we are actually moving towards each other and somehow these parallel stories of ours have to find common points of contact so that our enemies do not once again use, uh, our differences for that to make us quarrel, thank you for participating in our broadcast. thank you very much. see you in the next meetings. oleksandra hnatiuk, a polish researcher or hnatiuk, with a polish accent, a polish researcher in the field of ukrainian studies, a professor of varshavskyi of the university was with us and she tried to find these points of contact in how to interpret the volyn tragedy and how we should look at our history in polish, for us ukrainians and poles, well, now we will tell you about a ukrainian woman who is not afraid to tease the russians with a ukrainian song, this is yuliya koroleva vojolova of the armed forces of ukraine for several years, she fearlessly drives to the front lines a few hundred meters from the enemy and told her story in the war to our khrystyna
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parubiy, let's see , i wanted to join the rescuers, but i went to war yuliya koroleva, junior sergeant of the armed forces of ukraine, a woman has been serving in the army since 2017. she wanted to leave earlier but got pregnant. and only when her daughter grew up , she voluntarily went to the war. our sumy rvc refused me, said that she was not washing the child ’s head. go home, and i called my friend and went with him. toretsk battalion , 15th sumy motorized infantry battalion of the 58th brigade, went with him to toretsk, took the position of the battalion commander, and

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