[000:00:00;00] and despite the fact that hmm, they do their work for this and every day in this world prove uh , uh, uh, uh, i don't have any guarantees. well , a military correspondent came to us today, and he generally asks me, "are you following the situation in the country?" there regarding the vicissitudes of the political i say well, listen, you know, i now consider myself the happiest person if it were not paradoxical that it was said because i don't follow and at the same time i consider myself happy because i don't follow it and i understand what it really is well a certain depth in this opinions because because officials have to do their job, politicians officials have to prove in this world that not only from hiding excuse me for the pixel

of the military, but to prove that they , first of all, do everything to meet the criteria of nato from the point of view of the budget anti-corruption of other procedures, the rule of law, the rule of law, and so on. well, the question is no longer for me, the question is more about who should fulfill it. i don’t know if at least. are really ready to do it, but i will add one point that the only guarantee of the security of ukraine now is the liquidation of this hostile terrorist regime, and in the russian federation, this point can be the only maximum guarantee, all other pieces of paper we already know what kind of pieces of paper they are, we can go to the same place with them therefore, no, no conditions, protocols, directives cannot be considered

as a single guarantee, this can be a plus , in addition to the fact that, of course, we need nato , well, listen, we live in those times when we understand that there can be different wars, it is not clear with whom else we will have to fight for the crimea and so on. we must defend our interests. it is necessary for procedures a-a-m-m-m for those that still have these protocols written in them. well, for example, the protocol of march a, according to which we work as military doctors, they are written in blood if you can say so. and here we are fighting according to these protocols, because nato countries have been through more than one war and they have many of these working procedures that are fixed exactly how they should work in the armed forces of all countries, therefore, of course , we need nato very much but nevertheless we we have

to realize that the liquidation of this hostile regime is actually i don't know if you want the liquidation of the russian federation as it is now can be the only guarantee of our safety conversation it was yehor firsov because there is a veteran paramedic who served on the eastern front thank you for defending us from the russians occupiers we wish you good health, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks, in particular on facebook and youtube, for those who are currently watching us on youtube , please like this video or it was promoted in youtube trends well, subscribe to our pages in social networks, we will be grateful to you for this help , we will be in touch with the people's deputy of ukraine former head of the security service of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko p valentina congratulations and glad to see you on our air

good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes so valentina, the day before today , dmytro kuleba reported that nato agreed to cancel the action plan regarding ukraine's membership and it means for ukraine that we will pass externally what other countries take longer and in a year, that is, at the washington summit, we will be in nato yes or no, this means somewhere, first of all, that the armed forces of ukraine showed a huge military power using nato weapons and nato training and nato protocols. if you want, what we just heard about with you but the most important thing is that the only ones who currently have combat experience of confronting russia are the armed forces of ukraine, therefore and for ukraine

. the leader of the member countries of the alliance that ukraine will first receive not only security guarantees but also commitments with our key allies, we are fighting for these to be security commitments from great britain and the united states of america and from france and from romania and from poland, in fact, from the key points, i wanted ukraine now in the anti-putin coalition, this is the first, i think , what exactly will be decided positively and it is very important for us, the second, the second at the summit, i think it will be confirmed and guaranteed for ukraine for our armed forces forces first of all continuation of long-term support with long-term support with weapons, armor, armored vehicles and training for our servicemen from it is clear what among the priorities we will receive, i think

including the confirmation of long-term contracts and the supply of air defense systems and mice. let's not forget, dear tv viewers, that together with all thirty-one member countries of the r16 alliance, we are choosing fighter jets for our armed forces in order to finally his ukrainian aviation or military aviation covered the sky and covered the counteroffensive of our armed forces so that we lost less defenders and had more firepower at the general staff of general zaluzhny third third about which there is really no decision yet i think this knife will still be quite tense with all our partners in vilnius they have already moved there from the ballroom president biden arrived in vilnius after great britain and many other leaders are already there, i

even heard that the prime minister of japan, as a country that heads a large family, is also arriving in vilnius and all this is not in vain, all this in order that, after all, i will briefly present to you without revealing big secrets now from the position of the ukrainian side, where i am an active participant, our position is that at the summit tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, ukraine is official according to the decision of this summit of the 74th vilnius received both confirmation and invitation and understanding that we are becoming a nato member country. at the same time, as a professional diplomat, i am here . let serhii briefly explain to the tv viewers that standing up to members can really take some time , for example, as we are a candidate country now on membership in the european union and negotiations on membership will most likely begin at the end of this year. so, negotiations on membership in nato are precisely what we believe can and

should be tomorrow , the day after tomorrow, and after that you have already mentioned it. i confirm your expert opinion that most likely at the 75th nato anniversary summit in washington, ukraine should have already completed the procedures and all other necessary formalities to become a full member of nato, in fact we will most likely be the 33rd nato member country after sweden there is a statement by jobbib at a joint press conference with the president of latvia, where he talks about membership, the future and ukraine's membership in the north atlantic alliance, we will hear and see. we are very firmly convinced that ukraine should join nato as soon as conditions allow, not all nato members have such a firm position, but there is a deep commitment to ukraine to its security and future

, which is shared by all nato members, discussions about how exactly we will formulate this are still ongoing, but i am very optimistic that the signal we will send not only to the ukrainian government not only to the ukrainian people but also to russia, however, how strong and united we all are will be very important , mr. valentin, you mentioned the security guarantees that ukraine can receive . we are talking about security guarantees from individual states, not from the north atlantic alliance . i understood correctly according to the scheme by which these were received security guarantees finland and sweden when they announced that they are joining the alliance, i.e. in the event of a nuclear strike , as i understand ukraine, those are the countries that have nuclear weapons, great britain, the united states the united states of america france

who else can help us, they will stand up for ukraine, that's right, i understand a little more . in fact, i'm talking and now the formula is being chosen, after all , from the obligations of security, not so much guarantees . well, that will be a simple memorandum. not about the guarantee, after all, the obligations and the united states of america agree now in the working order on the model of security obligations , which, for example, israel has with the united states of america, but such security obligations we are leaving the eu under bilateral and bilateral agreements. i have already mentioned the countries of the usa, great britain , poland, romania, even spain, but here it is still very important to understand that all the countries that even i have just named are leninato countries, and you know which ones have the largest armies, that is why they are bilateral guarantees from so many of our nato allies essentially mean

the gradual acquisition of ukraine's membership in the alliance country by country, and so 31 countries as of today, more than that, for example, the baltic countries , for example, i already mentioned romania, poland slovakia and even turkey agree that ukraine can and should receive an invitation to join nato at this summit. the question now lies with the world's biggest leaders. in essence, now the key decisions will be made by the president of the united states, biden , the chancellor of the federal republic of germany, schultz, and i repeat, even the prime minister. the prime minister of japan, the country that is the head of the big seven, will also join the summit , since the ukrainian issue is now under the global security issue, the ukrainian issue , and we, ukraine, are now in the interests of the whole world . all are anti-putin coalition, which is based

on nato member countries, that is, it is no longer a complex matter to embroider everything, so much so that we are asking even the ato, as in essence nato and the anti-pus coalition are interested in the fact that the ukrainian and armed forces and the investments that the allies make almost every day in our defense and security become the property of everything that is right for nato all 30 are one well, with our accession, i will repeat the 33 countries in the alliance plan, the time to repeat promises has already passed , the president of lithuania said so at the joint press conference with stoltenberg , we will hear and see the atlantic structures of security and becoming a member of nato, the time to repeat promises has passed, the time has come to agree on a clear plan how we will achieve this, we have no other choice but to agree and send a powerful signal to ukraine, the prospect of membership is extremely important for a country that

has been heroically fighting against the russian monster from vilnius for almost a year and a half to become the place from where good news goes to the ukrainian people, mr. valentin, we now see, well, conditional three groups of countries in nato that can be divided into our obvious sympathizers and our lobbyists in the north atlantic alliance, this is lithuania latvia, estonia, poland is a country that wants us to join the north atlantic alliance as soon as possible . there are large countries that are considering the united states of america, great britain. they think germany, france think how appropriate it is now . what is going on with the fighters and commanders of azov is a separate story, but today erdoğan said that for the support of sweden

, which should be the 32nd country in the north atlantic alliance, turkey would wanted to open the doors of the european union for ankara, they have been standing at these doors for 50 years and this is a very long process, according to you , considering the position of the president of turkey, because sweden will also go through turkey for ratification through the turkish parliament, and we will also go through it if there is a positively approved decision, does this mean that not only the north atlantic alliance , but also the union will change, that is, what did putin not want to change, that they are fundamentally changing this map, geography, p- they are changing all politics because if turkey becomes a member the european union obviously has nothing to do with putin, and the russians are definitely

in turkey , because it will be even faster with europe . how he played with putin for a very long time. well, he continues to play because he is almost the only negotiator besides the leaders of china, brazil and the leaders of south africa who still maintain contacts with putin, even the leaders of africa who came to us and then to moscow, even they expressed that they are after all they are waiting for putin to take some steps towards peace, but not about them, now about turkey , i can say that the turkish president or the president of turkey really stands up now in his own security interests , this means before the summit, and he, too, and turkey also has a serious interest, for example, in obtaining modern fighters of the same

m-16 that we are talking about and which we want to receive in the near future, that is, even in such matters of additional weapons, even the key nato countries that are watching now and they see the aid that is going to ukraine, they understand that this is unheard of and i have not seen it before, support with equipment, weapons and training for military personnel and all this according to nato standards, and i am talking now about the armed forces of ukraine. therefore, it is important for us not to pay attention to with all due respect to other countries, they defend their own interests. and now it is important for us to defend ukrainian interests and hold the ukrainian position, it is concentrated in three very important components, that group of countries which you named baltic poland slovakia, i would add that romania because i personally entered into negotiations with a high-level romanian government delegation about nato last week and

i can tell you that this is a group of countries that is simply not separate, and ahead is on the list of nato member countries who really sincerely want ukraine to be a member of the alliance, the second group of countries that follows them stands alone and follows them. these are the countries that are also part of the anti-putin coalition, that also help with weapons and training, but that have the vision regarding that is not so soon, it is possible that ukraine will become a member of the alliance, but the process must be started already at this summit, and i would be really fair. the leaders behind the scenes tonight will actually be, uh, not disputes, you know , such discussions, so that it doesn’t happen like it happened in

2008 at the nato summit in bucharest, when exactly these countries, well, plus then, france also joined now, by the way, macron changed he expresses his attitude positively and takes the position that ukraine's membership in nato is positive for france, but returning to germany and the united states, now you know it will be unpleasant for them if the shadow of the bucharest summit is again not determination, but in fact such a win for putin if uh and again, their position will not be completely decisive and the invitation or the prospect of ukraine's membership in nato will somehow be replaced by something else, so i think that taking into account this factor of 2008 and the bucharest-vilnius factor after all, the leaders of the nato member countries will be able to overcome this fear, and maybe

this is not flexibility, and still make a historic and heart-breaking decision that ukraine becomes a member of the alliance, yes, with a certain period, after all, the acquisition of membership, but lena of nato, and this will mean an additional and one serious break in the war in the confrontation with russia and its aggression on the territory of ukraine, this one with you is called that ukraine will never again under any circumstances be a victim of aggression stood alone apart from the entire civilized world and this will mean that the anti-putin coalition that has formed has essentially formed and is being formed in nato into the north atlantic alliance, this will mean, valentin, that russia will never win this war correctly. that's right. that 's right. and the alliance will have enough power to stop them and do everything so that they don't win.

that's right. by the way, the key ones are set up there , i think all the nato member countries, but believe me , we have negotiations, especially last week. i met with all the key representatives, even great britain. it's fantastic. with regard to ukraine, especially members of parliament and the minister of defense of great britain, they all told me personally that great britain will continue to help the armed forces and really wants and will do everything for ukraine to be in nato . our interests and which will serve to squeeze out the aggressor in our territory .

american former government officials held secret talks with lavrov and people from putin's entourage, if such talks are currently underway. what can lavrov negotiate with former officials of the united states of america, this group of people who are around lavrov and patrusheva did not write this on nbc, but it must be mentioned on your broadcast a group of expl and scientists and all kinds of other his assistants really er has such contacts, but with whom in the united states are also er levels of experts of the er people of the security council and er of the us state department these contacts which are taking place at a single level now, not even at the governmental level, but around the governmental level. and from the united states and russia, what exactly are they discussing, well, we do not take part there, so er, i think that we should not even pay special attention to this, that is nothing more

rather than maintaining contacts, i repeat, it is the curacly and experts who are not in the government but are close. thank you, mr. valentin, you now have a language. it was a people's deputy of ukraine. the former head of the security service of ukraine. espresso and also on our social networks for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, like this video subscribe to our pages well, next we have journalist roman tsymbalyuk on the air, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air hi serhiu moreover, such pleasant news about russia, about azov, and about the reaction in russia, in a word, let's talk about it now, the only thing i will say to our viewers who are watching now on youtube and not only on youtube is to subscribe to roman tsimbalyuk on his page because this a person who has a million subscribers, that is, a huge audience, if you are not yet in this audience, you are simply depriving yourself

of pleasure every night and every day to see roman tsymbalyuk and hear his comments, so subscribe to his youtube channel, do it so that these millions roman has not one but two well, me it seems that he is already moving to that moment, so let's start with azov . five commanders of the defense of azov were returned to ukraine, and these are five commanders , some of whom have already publicly said that they are not returning to the war in russia, of course the return of the azov people who were in the territory of turkey and those who, according to the agreements with the regime and who died in dakhan, were supposed to stay in russia until the end of the war, they are just going crazy, they can’t understand how it is with- from ankara hmm, she just took and deceived us

piskov about the return of the azov people, what does he say piskov, we will hear piskov, or no one else said anything normal. as far as i understand , we will hear piskov, it ’s great, the sound is gone. well, in principle, i will quote it now, although it could be left as it is, as for the return of the leader to azov, then this is a violation of existing agreements and we will discuss it with the turkish side, which we actually have already started doing. it is very important that, unlike many countries of the so-called collective action, turkey maintains a dialogue with us, moreover, supports it at the highest level. well, we see that at the highest level erdoğan just took the level and, well, he just dropped

putin, well, publicly, can it be considered a public humiliation, what happened with azov , because it is such an epochal event, as my former friend olya skabeeva said, it was a shot back in principle. this is probably a too emotional perception of the situation and with a high probability. well, first of all, it is very nice that the russians in piski also mentioned in one of the comments that turkey is a nato state, it is very cool. on the topic of nato, nato is expanding, nato is doing something , on the other hand, they are creating a gas hub in the states at the atomic power plant, they want to build a gas hub there , and they want a lot of things, and it seems to me that this is some kind of simple, some kind of contradiction, because well,

it turns out that they supply strategic raw materials ah, to the west. that is, it is something like feeding hitler, if you measure by such categories, and this is an interesting moment, and indeed ukraine and turkey are neighboring countries across the seas, but we are part of the west, and this is very - i really like how cool it is, and regarding the direct dismissal of the leaders of the defenders of mariupol, after all, it is not azov, but mariupol will probably be like this today, it will probably be more correct, ah , it is important, first of all, to return everyone to this lighthouse. i know very well that they are authorized departments continue the work to return everyone from captivity, and in this case

we do not react to these russians, they, in principle, belong to us in the military to one or another unit , they do not become the greatest, not the least, not the best and worst of our defenders, and this the work continues. i don't know why the russians are so nervous about this, but in fact you don't have to do it, hmm. since they have, you know, such a prize in the form of viktor medvedchuk, and as they say, русский из свойх не бросают и respectively accordingly let them be is happy all the more, they are creating some kind of ukraine in the ukraine of vladimir putin's dream, but she will be based in moscow and live in the same apartment or

estate where viktor medvedchuk lives, and why, why do you think, why did ordagan leave? to such a humiliation, well, this is a humiliation, i can't accept what happened in any other way, because well, it seems that putin is such a great friend of erdogan and they are not at the highest level, they are on the short leg, and erda didn't even say anything , i assume that this is because due to what today erdoğan said that turkey should become a member of the european union , we will vote for sweden's accession to nato, well, obviously, this door to the european union and nato is much more attractive than that one . well , the russian toilet. to this situation, if the path to the european union is opened to it. and this can also happen very quickly, it will fundamentally

change this history in general, that is, why then erdogan's russia when the whole of europe will be open to him and he will be the master and he is a man which opens the door for both sweden and ukraine, that is, he will generally be the master of the situation. well, compared to putin, putin is nobody at all. well, first of all, it seems to me that the european union will not go to such a size. well , we will find another combination of agreements that sweden could complete its accession to the alliance and in fact, in part of sweden, this country is not at war, this country has a more powerful army and these processes that we are now seeing in relation to the swedes, they are er. i would call it internal history simply western cuisine because there are many of states many interests, many opinions on this matter, so why did he do that, it seems to me that the main reason is that russians behave like

monsters, because maybe they are monsters, and one of the key reasons is that putin and the rest of them are holders of russian passports and so on, they constantly they lie, they lie to everyone, for example, for the last position of the russians regarding the grain agreement, what do they say there , as it were, someone promised them something there, a sailboat, someone to the bank will decide in their favor, you, and so on and so on. well, this is nonsense. in russian of course it's just a delusion they take and stretch their lies it seems that no one knows what documents were signed, which means the grain agreement or the grain initiative it has only one point, the only one is the obligation of states not to attack merchant ships, well, in our