[000:00:00;00] in lutsk, where they discussed the non-peak situation and actually within the framework of this war and also strengthening the defense of poland's eastern borders . probably about the importance of communication between our countries, in addition to communication in general between the representatives of all nato member countries and ukraine. connected with the commemoration of the 80th anniversary of the volyn tragedy, they took part in the e-e

economic messiah that the cathedral roman catholic cathedral e-e demonstrated the rules of the papal nonse and the head of the conference of the piscuator of the roman catholic ukraine and the roman catholic conference of roman catholic bishops the president's friends placed candles on the crosses in front of the throne and said how important it is to remember all the victims of the volyn tragedy . so this was the main purpose of the presidents' visit to lutsk. but of course, talking about the past in the context of today is it is especially important that what the president spoke on the eve of vinnytsia, nato itself agreed on positions plus before that plus what wording will be adopted at the vodmos region, those that will determine the path to ukraine's membership in nato were

extremely important ukraine , which rather than both nato and the european union, we would like to ask you about the position of the united states secretary of state anthony blinkin, who very specifically said that nato itself will demonstrate support for ukraine, in particular with the path to membership, on the other hand, this was preceded by rather unclear and not too clear statements of the president of the united states, joseph biden , yes. there was a rather sharp reaction from the official diplomatic kyiv and, in general , the visit of our president to the capital of lithuania was in question, so we understand that history is now being written on the tables of this summit , on the other hand, we understand that there were also extremely weak signals from key states, that is, the key state of

the european union, germany, no no tried to join ukraine to nato. well, the cautious signals from joseph baytan were quite strange. comment well, i believe that the question of ukraine's membership has been resolved in the sense that ukraine will be a member of the question of the sequence of steps, which is the completion of the warming of the conditions of completion, that is, the transfer of such weapons to ukraine that will accelerate the ukrainian victory and this is the transfer of the weapons of his body from the in question faction of the star far away is that he has already transferred long-range missiles from everyone with the british postal storm shadow on the approach in the village such f16 as well as in the so-called israeli e-e security guarantee from the united states of america what does it mean it means a number that ukraine should get a technological advantage over its neighbors when it comes to

weapons this is extremely important for ukrainian defense for help, it's about membership in nato, i wouldn't worry too much about what's going on , there are various discussions, various discussions in front of themselves. instead, it remains for the leaders to put a full stop on it, i wish what is absolutely a normal process, because nato is making an absolutely historic decision about its expansion to the east, to the zone that is currently at war and will be a member of ukraine, which will win the war among the nuclear powers, that is, in russia, this is a completely new situation, which i think er, the founders of nato could not even foresee that one day there will be such and

such bills before nato, that is, another factor - this is actually what president baidom said so clearly today, the provision of the guarantee of the fifth article of the washington treaty, it was determined that nato enters the war, and then the configuration of forces and the dynamics of the development of events in ukraine before ukraine were completely different. so i believe that the process is going on, the process is silent when it comes to the main decisions, but it is moving in the absolutely right direction, also for us, a ukrainian ukraine to demand the sale of the implementation of the action plan for the acquisition of membership of the north atlantic ocean, god of aviation , in return, ukraine repeats, repeats, the veto on the way of sweden and finland. i think that this is absolutely

positive, even six months ago or a year ago, in general, we thought that uh, the dream should remain for ukraine, there is no longer a vat receipt , it is not even possible, we all understand that uh, nato members and the united states of america and ukraine are aiming for the washington nato summit - the flowers of 2024, which will celebrate the 175th anniversary of the founding of nato, and there will be another decision on ukraine 's accession to dan. question, we know that pro-russian forces are active in many countries, not only, unfortunately, in russia, they are also present in poland. actually, recently they staged a protest action under the ukrainian embassy in warsaw

, er, that's how they reacted to those people, to the activists who came here and under this embassy with ukrainian flags, how frequent and massive are such actions and how are they, what kind of reflection do these actions have in the polish media in the polish media , that is, how does polish society react and see these events, are these protests pro-russian some 780% of poles express massive support for ukraine's membership in the eu and nato, and this percentage has not changed for a year and a half, that is, stable support for the country in poland is maintained and so far there are no signs of

this situation changing. there are people who want to stop being a part of society and they don't like the support in ukraine because they don't like the european union and they like the attack, well, the natural process of the democrats is a threat, but miroslava well , today in poland and in ukraine as well are bypassing the anniversary of the great tragedy, this is how they talk about the events in volyn, as a result of which tens of thousands of civilians of polish and ukrainian nationality were killed , an extremely symbolic visit of the president of poland andriy duda and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi to volyn took place. on the other hand, we understand that it is necessary

to somehow intensify our thinking on historical topics, because the russians usually manipulated very easily, taking advantage of their intransigence in quotation marks, the position of ukrainian polish historians, i would ask you to evaluate the progress of the dialogue with, in particular, the policy of commemorating the victims of the events of the second world war , in particular, and the volyn tragedy, in particular, i have already said that already in this world, i remember that the measures to clarify the historical and their context and the counting of victims from one residential side has been carried out for almost 30 years , that is, the discussions of historians took place, they took place and we hope will continue in the future, just as you have already stopped and measures to overcome

this critical legacy of the new is also carried out in the 20th quarter of a century. we remember the landmark event of ivan paul ii's visit to ukraine in 2001. it consisted of kharkiv. forgiveness and reciprocity eh presidents duda who can fashniv kuchma in 1997 this process was initiated in volyn , the center was opened in the third year there were joint declarations of the bishops, the catholic from one country from the other joined the orthodox before that, when was the activity of presidents kachynskyi and yushchenko, koshniewskiy yushchenko, the activity of president komarovsky, the activity of president poroshenko , and finally the fact that the presidents met together in

lutsk paid their respects to the victims of the volyn tragedy. i believe that this is an extremely positive positive process that the president led this process of both societies. that is we are returning after such a period when this did not happen. this period began with the reign of viktor yanukovych's madmen in ukraine, and what will the president lead want to lead this process and extremely positively, that is, i hope that the historical past will not be an obstacle for good-neighborly friendly relations between ukraine and poland, but on the contrary that this understanding of history will serve those with closer relations and what we can say we talk about the tragic past, we honor the monuments who is on top, but we are moving forward thank you mr. myroslav myroslav chekovskiy was a politician and public figure espresso continued on the air, there was a short pause, and then

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opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future is already the main and interesting thing in the program verdict serhiy rudenko from monday to friday at 20:00 repeat at 12:10 the president of the united states joseph biden said that the united states literally perceives the obligation to defend every inch of nato land as provided for in the fifth article is that of the american president, we accept nato , we all accept article five, an attack on one, an attack on all, literally, the president clarified that the invasion of one inch of nato territory means that all countries that are members of the alliance will be at war against those who violate this space and we will defend every inch a-a very biden noted that the product of the next days in vilnius, the member states

of the alliance will focus on how to strengthen the eastern flank of nato and modernize deterrence and defense capabilities quote we will also to discuss our support for the people of ukraine i want to thank you for your partnership and leadership as we together accept this challenge, we are now adding to zhukov an employee of the center for strategic communications and information security of the deputy kharkiv regional council good day good day and oleksandr hlushchenko expert in telecommunications good day, mr. oleksandr good day what will we talk about new social media and not only social networks, they are not in our lives and in particular in informing people in informing in particular about the war before history recently with a new social network has appeared in the middle called

it is uh mark zuckerberg's social network and it is a direct competition to twitter, which belongs to elon mask, from the recent past it is clear that direct competitors do not like each other very much there is one more accusation here, so elon musk is threatening a lawsuit because it seems that stress lures employees who know technology to twitter, they know how it all works, i have a question, is the time when this new social network appeared is a coincidence? is it just a requirement of time, because twitter did you need a competitor or is there somewhere deeper mr. oleksandr i will probably start with you first and then we will ask mr. sergey

to comment good day studio good day viewers in fact in the information market there is always competition and pretext for the creation of a new platform, a generous platform where mark zuckerberg can ban ukrainians for the word russian, eh, the fact became that twitter had a new owner, twitter from such a fragmented authentic platform began to micron and change, and for the purpose , a window of opportunity appeared for that to win back part of the audience because we know that twitter is an effective political tool in the agro-saxon market

which have appeared recently and several simply that the means this is probably eh such a speed record holder did not accept the audience and i also connect this primarily with those new introductions that he masks his management are probably now talking about on twitter yes with these restrictions on the number of impressions with this with this with efforts to monetize this blue mark one i apologize to the authorized spods well, accordingly, these conspiratorial things thrown by elon musk himself with various so-called carlsons and so on. it is probably also a little possible that they turned away part of the audience of social networks, what is the legend there? and tell me, please, we understand that all social networks also regularly use e-e for political purposes , we are currently interested in the war of russia

against ukraine. a network where it will be possible to ban ukrainians for calling the occupiers what they are, that is, for specific words, specific nouns, a-a , won't the new field appear here, where it will be possible to inform and actually spread more reliable information if it is not used there of that word russia how are you? they said, because we know that there were stories with twitter when even those verified verified users were spreading, at least they were caught and accused of spreading fakes, mr. serhiy, please meta company, it is more actively

cooperating with the ukrainian government and by non-governmental structures in terms of combating fakes and combating disinformation, despite the uh-right objections voiced by mr. oleksandr that uh-uh there is such a uh-uh taboo on certain words on twitter, in the plan they declare that they there is no censorship at all. well, at least until recently it was declared, and that is why it was , of course, a very powerful tool and remains so for spreading, including , e. blocks e-e malicious content e-e llc twitters conspiracy and disinformation they bloom in a lush world and moreover practically nothing is blocked there at best russian media are marked

for example e or bloggers or contributors what are they there is statofit media, that is, media connected with the state of russia or china or other technical and regularly spread false information, but look at the position of ilona maska, gentlemen, it is connected with his so-called political non-involvement, or is there still some so-called friend double-entry bookkeeping well, last year i concluded that elon musk is not engaged in geopolitics and the ukrainians do not tell him how to launch rockets, how to manage social networks, we have enough eh well,

we consider his behavior and his slander to be strange and in principle, if we analyze the behavior and goals of zuckerberg and elon mask with twitter, we will see that these two gentlemen are, in principle , sympathizers of russia. i personally checked on my own experience on facebook and i can confidently say that in this war facebook is more on the side of russia than for ukraine , have you already analyzed whether the accounts of official structures and official persons of ukraine have appeared in social networks? we remember this story, how trump was very active on twitter and about everything he thinks and everything that happens these short messages of his constantly appeared. is something like this possible in ukraine , because well, we see in other social networks, e.e. , accounts of official structures or something like that, now

it appears on the social media, mr. oleksandr , the accounts of ministries appeared, they reported on the same facebook network about the fact that they have accounts. it is these networks , in my opinion, we have another unnecessary application on our phone, and er, trenz, in principle , er, will be able to repeat the fate of club house after a while, while it is now hype, er interest in him will simply disappear because why post on another network if you have the same audience on instagram or on facebook or on twitter, a ukrainian communique that was on twitter came to twitter, got banned and returned to twitter, well, look at the time, the european parliament and the european commission made more than one decision

regarding, so to speak, information hygiene and cleanliness , but we still understand that russia has invested and is investing large amounts of money in spreading its fake strategy or fake strategy , to be more precise, and accordingly, for us as for ukraine it is right now to win under the conditions when the key players are for the same elon musk may be interested in certain projects not only with russia but with china, first of all we need to admit at the state level that we have a problem with information hygiene, this is the first thing we need to admit and carry out cultural and educational work from top to bottom because i see on the internet every day how our people chase fakes and repost various infogypsies and consider it normal and information is not checked with critical thinking, this is also

a problem, this is problem number two, why start it is necessary, well, everyone from himself, it is also desirable that the state takes an active part in this and tells what is bad and what is good, because we will not defeat either the goal or twitter, and every day we regularly see e-e pages that spread disinformation on the same facebook of ivanovich zuckerberg in principle, i don’t mind smoking a cigarette with the kremlin and making money from it, i would like to ask for such a brief briefing on information hygiene . and here we also open 15 clones and how can the average user make sure that

we are reading information from a reliable source and not some russian bot , this is the first er mentioned there is also a verification icon on practically the most popular social networks and our state institutions the government has this icon secondly. if you want to subscribe to the social network of some state body, it is already an unreal headquarters or the ministry of defense or another government structure, then go to the official website of this structure and from the official website, follow the link to each social network that interests you, facebook, telegram, twitter , etc. they provide us with official institutions, they more or less

inform us about the current situation, so to speak, operationally. well, of course, subscribe to the social networks of the strategic communications center. now for ukrainians, the network has discovered some fakes, some such high-profile cases. have you ever been caught in something incorrect ? i ask you a question, and then, mr. oleksandr , i ask very briefly, because i don’t have much time . i don’t have all the information right now, so it is known that this is the network, that it is already milk on they literally functioned for a few days, so we conducted this analysis. the students are there now . it is impossible to tell. it has been five days. this network has 100 million accounts. let's

meet in a month and see how much is left. it differs from twitter or facebook because, in my opinion, it is basically another platform for transferring from empty to nothing, it is technological. and from the point of view of providing information on distribution logistics, it does not differ from twitter or facebook . thank you, serhiy zhukov, an employee of the center of strategic communications and information security, a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, and oleksandra glushchenko , a telecommunications expert, spoke with us about new social networks and their role in informing society. further, we have news with anna eva so melnyk stays with espresso and be the first to learn about the most important thing. thank you colleagues for your work, the news team will continue to work and in this issue i will tell you about the most important thing and from what is happening at the nato summit in vilnius, as well as what will include the new package of military aid to ukraine from germany