[000:00:00;00] we managed to find two brothers, nine-year-old artem and 11-year-old bohdan, who were wanted since march 2022. we managed to find out that artemchyk and bohdanchyk are now in temporarily occupied mariupol, they live with their grandfather. unfortunately, their grandmother died. but the most important thing is that they after all, they are with a relative that we know that everything is fine with them, the story of artemchyk and bohdanchyk is very difficult, the details were told to us by a man who lived in mariupol before the war in the same house where artem and bohdan lived on march 8, 22 year, the house where the boys lived was hit by a shell and, unfortunately, the parents of artem and bohdan were killed. they were definitely killed during the hostilities from the 7th to the 8th of march

. already on the morning of march 8, they saw that uh, she was there. well, there is a man and a woman near the entrance there with injuries . here is a photo of the house and the place where the projectile hit . that was the apartment where the children lived, but just at the moment when everything happened, artem and bohdana on happiness was not at home, but at the same time nothing was known about them that day, they were considered missing . igor did not remain indifferent to the fate of the little brothers, he began to look for them in the spring of the 22nd year, he asked us for help in the search and spoke very warmly about the boys and their mom, they were very kind neighbors, everything is fine, very kind, the children were beaten, er, the mother watched them very much, she put her heart into them, the children were neat, very interesting children, the little one was generally very so friendly, he greeted me in general, how was he

, and they patted him on the head, they were very beautiful you know, the boys were still nice to watch, they like brothers very much, i felt that they were brothers for more than a year, almost nothing was known about the fate of the boys. and in this difficult search story , specialists from the community helped us a lot. with the help of certain technologies, they search and analyze information that is available in open sources , for example in the mass media, on forums, sites in messengers, and, of course, in social networks . so, the specialists of flow managed to find the older sister of artem and bohdan, who now lives abroad and contact her, and here she told very important details, this is a fragment of correspondence with the boys' sister, i know that on march 8, my mother passed away

, the children were in the house across the street from some acquaintances of my mother, when i left, we learned about her death and they started looking for the little one sometime in april, the ministry of emergencies of the so-called dnr said that the children were in a hospital in donetsk, where they had been taken, as if by volunteers. then the grandmother and grandfather went and registered guardianship, they took the child, unfortunately, the grandmother suddenly passed away, the children stayed with the grandfather the boys' sister also informed the most important thing about timchik and bogdanchik, everything is fine. they are alive and healthy and live with their grandfather. this search story is complete and fortunately with a happy ending. and of course, thank you to each of you who joined the search for artem and bohdan . thank you for your participation. join the search for children who are still wanted , you can see their photos on the website of the child search service, please look at their faces, if you recognize someone, do not delay

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today the main and probably the main topic is nato in vilnius, which starts tomorrow and will be until the day after tomorrow, that is, tuesday and wednesday , and i will talk about this, but also about another . today, i will also talk with minister pavel klimkin of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 mr. pavlo i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes i congratulate you mr. yury i am glad to be with you your audience ours but first of all yours ours because the audience is waiting for you they know that your answers are very for well they are important for us everyone, thank you very much for joining, sir. look, if last week, i also talked a lot about

nato, then it is. to be a day before the opening, exactly. we already have enough information to prevent this from happening . i hope so. share, but look at the last news of the last hour that appeared in the inform space of ukraine, it was made public by the minister of foreign affairs , dmytro kuleba. and here he said that they canceled the requirement for a joint action plan for nato membership for ukraine, sir pavly explain to our viewers what it was all about when it appeared and why it is and if it is important for us that it was canceled well, i will remind you on the coffee grounds what kind of cry is what to you and coffee lovers, they like coffee, uh, not coffee grounds,

what by pdch here it was not necessary to guess on coffee grounds what to understand that this tool for us and for nato, for us together during our approach to nato, no longer works, will not work, and because it is completely bad, and first of all he is from the 90s, he is kind of disorganized, very structured and he is about how gradually and ovulating slowly with compliance with all possible and impossible bureaucratic and political requirements to move towards nato during the war is the usual meaningless and after the war will be meaningless

and it is absolutely clear for us and for us the fact that this decision has actually been made and we will hear it there and see it in the near future . this is important, it says that we will be treated in a special way. this does not mean that we should not go forward and adhere to nato standards and strive for them. it would be bad for ukraine, bad for the alliance in general, for common solidarity, there are things that concern the military, there are various options, there are security ones, of course, there are also general ones, nato accepts unarmed forces, not the special services, but the whole country with its

political system and its stability with its constancy, democracy, the rule of law and of course we need a plan, it cannot be a pdc, this plan cannot be purely bureaucratic . it must be much more poor and political, but at the same time, we do not get discounts from nato, as i said, we will to work on a different logic of the introduction, and for me one of the key results would be if toltonberg would go to a press conference, and today you will hear his initial press conference with the president of lithuania, but then there will be a few more, and he would go out and say that i am staying here for another year. i was asked by the allies and this is actually a correct story . during the war, horses are not changed, and i say this with great respect

for the daens, who knows very well. we need such a good horse, which is respected by everyone. able to reach er the unity of all allies and we would really need him to come out. and he said that i was instructed to develop a new plan. i will start it immediately tomorrow, on the first day after the appointment, and in the near future a new entry visa for ukraine will be ready and we will discuss it then at the newly created ukraine nato council, here it is five for me, there was a result that would be worthy and would warm our hearts, we would like more , we would like an immediate invitation to the alliance, but as a result, at least this would be worthy, mr. pavlo, well, look at that

you said okay, we all understand that we won't be invited to nato, uh, we won't become a member of nato, we shouldn't even talk about it until the end, before our victory over the russians , uh, now you say that you took away this bureaucratic mechanism that delayed our accession to nato if, for example, this happens and yenstoutenberg comes out and says that i was instructed to write a new plan for ukraine's accession to nato, this plan will be faster, this plan will not only be faster, it will be more ambitious, because it is not only delayed it made it difficult because we had to navigate some bureaucratic hooks

. this does not mean that they are not needed at all , but the vision of ukraine joining nato after the war during the war should be political. in the 21st century e. look at recent history after the second world war, there were countries that passed from the conditions of the third world to the western , these are very different examples: japan, south korea , israel, singapore, own tamas matura there are many of them, but no one even during this time and certainly no one in the 21st century has come so ambitious, large-scale with the desire to join the european union and donate, and this means that not only geopolitics, but

world politics in general is changing. precisely because ukraine is changing it right now and that's why i think it's critical that we need a new logic, and on this logic, well, for sure , jens will work in the near future. program, i did not find information about whether volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, will definitely be at this summit, because the last thing i found was that he said that we should hear something. well, dmytro kuleba said that we will hear something, and it is something important and very relevant for us, which will push us to join nato, please tell me if you have any information or if there is any decision in the president's office , will they be like this, or will president zelenskyi be at this summit? i think this question

should be asked in the president's office and here not to engage in any speculation but i believe that uh today even if the result is not what we would like to get all ukrainians no one will tell zelensky it is wrong not to go and i will tell you why if we are not allies at the same table if we do not talk with them about the future if we don't talk about military and financial aid in person after shaking hands with such a real so who will be happy, they will be happy in the kremlin well, agree , they will say well, you see, they started some conversations there quarrels and we should not give them even such an excuse and everyone perfectly understands

that we wanted more yesterday and that this is a fundamentally important issue, but at the same time we understand the world, uh, we understand that our allies have their own opinions, they do not share us because we are ready to raise the stakes, we have shown it, we are not afraid of anything, but a part of our allies thinks that if ukraine is invited now, will it mean a direct path to a conflict with russia , including a possible conflict there, as then interpol article 4 on immediate consultations in in case of danger, and even more so article five about the collective baron, it is not automatic, you know very well. but nevertheless it is perceived as the basis of the entire western trans-atlantic security system

, to allow russia to somehow manipulate and increase the stakes. if you want, in my opinion, it can raise stakes and try to attack one of the nato countries to show that it all does not work or together with us why not 100% can especially putin in today's reality when after the prigozhin putsch many understand that his situation weaker than before, are you for the internal russian situation? we will also look at the second part of the arguments

in the near future . maintaining a strong position and not going for escalation, which can be considered in the kremlin as a provocation . also in the russians. and what should be done with the strategic arms control system, which putin has suspended for the time being, and there are a lot of other questions that i can now continue there through whom until the stoltenberg press conference to sit down. and there is , of course, whether he will do it, but it is very important to understand that our western allies want victory over this regime, but they see this victory as controlled, they do not want

escalation, they do not want the risks of seizing nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction, they do not want the risks of uh, sharp destabilization of the situation because it will also affect other markets, there are oil markets or metal markets, and for us this is a consideration during us when we see people being hit at night er when we see how we lose the most valuable thing that we have is people to us this argumentation from one parties uh-uh hm so rational of course but emotionally no but nevertheless we are already going to nato we are going to the eu we understand that these are our allies we have no other allies and we have to try to combine them arguments and our

arguments which are largely emotional it our task, therefore, i believe that participation in this summit is an important decision, of course, for volodymyr zelenskyi, and we will respect any of his decisions. he feels this is in constant dialogue with the leaders of our allies. but i believe that we should not allow russia or even china or anyone to others to point their fingers at us and say, you see, they are dealing with the fact that the west is increasing, but nevertheless they already have internal problems and quarrels, that is, everything that serves the kremlin definitely does not serve our benefit, and we are responsible people and we are fine with that we understand, mr. pavlo, look. last year, nato itself took place in madrid, and there it was so obvious that they were talking about ukraine because the war had already lasted six months. well, a little less than

six months, and now it has been going on for one and a half years, there is some kind of change, this shift is inserted into the support of ukraine inside of the leaders of the nato countries well, this is already what we see that they have already canceled the pf for ukraine. obviously , i also suspect that there will be some surprises during these two days, which were talked about, for example , by the prime minister of estonia. the president of lithuania and us for the settlement, they all somehow set up that there would be something else . that is, this is a very important summit for us. in your opinion , it will go down in history simply as a historical one for ukraine or a fateful one for us. or everyone exactly tis for us historical will it be fateful for me fateful right there is a very simple decision that ukraine

goes to nato, just as they once made a decision that ukraine goes to the european union , but this is not the only summit for us the same as it is, they made a decision that we are leaving, one day there will be the start of official negotiations, then there will be membership, that is, there are milestones in our history , they do not consist of only one of one of two or three events, uh, i think that we are always prone to white and black betrayal victories, but relying on one summit is normal and important. but nevertheless , we have to achieve a result, a result. for us, this is our membership in the alliance, just as even being in the alliance does not mean that our

security is automatically fully ensured and there is nothing do more, the russian regime will continue to exist in one form or another. well, we are in the world, of course, somehow inside. we hope not . but nevertheless, we assume that the russian regime will exist and this or that will be seen. we will need to continue to protect ourselves and be a part of it. of a common strategy to contain this regime, a common nato common strategy is a rural strategy , so again it is historical or fateful let's leave it to the historians, they will write interesting books there, maybe someone will read them, but now is the time to create history, not write it history textbooks, i would really like it to become historical and fateful. maybe one day you will write about it in your book, ah, i would really like that, look, and now about the ukraine nato council, which uh, on wednesday

, appears at lunch uh, in 1:00 p.m. i don't remember exactly the work schedule. but at noon , she will start her work in vilnius. this council is why it's more important than just the ukraine nato committee that existed until now and why. well, somehow, there are a lot of our experts. not experts, just those who like to talk they put their hopes on this council, why is it important, special hopes, it's really a step forward, it's important for us, it's important, and the signal is important for putin, remember the year 1997, they're trying to make up for it, when it was neither putin nor yeltsin are giving russia a chance to get a nato razia council. accordingly, it is not working now, of course. yes, and how can

it work? we are creating a commission mechanism , a good mechanism. nevertheless , this council was created against the background of the fact that the russian nato council is nowhere to be found, she says that attitude to it will never be secondary to ukraine that we are at the same table and no one like the hungarians will then try to manipulate it, delay something there or say we are going to, we are not going to play, we are not playing poets, it is very important for us that the council discusses serious issues, that is, our security, our defense my mother-in-law alliance, not individual allies, namely the alliance ego be for ukraine well, actually moving forward, because as i said, there will still be a new plan, a new line