tv [untitled] July 12, 2023 4:00am-4:31am EEST
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[000:00:00;00] on certain networks, advice to read the constitution. in fact, i consider it a good trend when uh, in response to some stupid, maybe uh or uh, provocative questions, others advise to read the constitution because there are actually answers there, when we learn to read the constitution, the source of answers to the questions of our life, then uh we will actually have something to celebrate on this day, but here it must be said that for this the constitution must also be brought into line so that you can bring your lower life and yourselves into line with the requirements of today's life so far, i would say that the holiday of the constitution is a holiday of an advance . look at us. the constitution appeared early . we are among those countries that became independent and , well, more or less immediately after that, they received the constitution, because there are countries that live without a constitution and still, and this is a bit ahead of independence, you know, when we actually have a flag, there is a coat of arms, there is glory
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, there is a constitution and there is a government, there is a parliament, there are all the signs of a state, there is no state, and we lived like this in the 90s, when our the state was essentially such a post-colony and as defined whether the state is a colony or a post-colony, is it independent, of course, not because you have your own flag, many colonies have their own flag , even in the constitution they have a-and it is determined by where decisions are made, where the main decisions of our life are made in our capital or in the neighboring capital otse and there is actually an answer to the question: are we independent from this point of view, our independence is essentially formed by a revolution of dignity, what role does the political nation play here, or does it play any role at all , directly because the political nation the constitution is an inseparable thing, a one-year-old nation is formed in the era of modernity, the era of modernity. modern, that is, modernity came to our territory very late . well, it formally began even when nustraialization was all that, but it was a one-sided modernization for which the ukrainian people paid a terrible price
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, the famine, modernization, spiritual, mental modernization uh, constitutional, cultural, it actually started as soon as we got independence. it was basically our chance. because the empire never lets anyone in voluntarily, they always ask their terrible price, because every country that became independent eventually went through a war of independence, starting with the first such revolution and then the american war of independence and every time in history even then when the empire let someone go voluntarily for nothing, for example, india, for example , israel, but still the war for independence began because the neighbors did not let a and e , in fact, this price caught up with us, this bloody price caught up so much now because the empire he doesn't want us and we still have to do something about it right now the historical situation is a little different and this means
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that in the end the empire disintegrated itself eh all this eh our war will end not only with our independence and the establishment of the flourishing and our war is already going to end with the collapse of the empire, because it will not survive this war, but one way or another, we are only now beginning to understand the true price of ukrainian independence, ukrainian statehood, and because the nation was stateless for centuries. and this, of course, left its mark on our psychology, on our institutions, and our behavior. as volodymyr dubrovskyi tells the commission, the same values that gave the ukrainian people the opportunity to survive and go through these trials in the past hold us back. godfather and so on, it is possible that a political nation is being formed right before our eyes with our participation, and this political nation will obviously request a constitution of better quality than the
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constitution that was formed in essence automatically at the dawn of our independence well of course not during the war of course the war does not allow changes to be made to the constitution and this is clear and correct i think that immediately after the war it will not be clear but in the end we will have to modify the constitution in accordance with the level of establishment which does not happen to be acquired by the ukrainian political nation. and this is quite a high level. many things in the constitution are not well written enough for such a country. let's hope for a mature political nation . although, of course, there may be different options. nothing is guaranteed by fate, there is no future, the future is uncertain, there is a fork in the road ahead of us, and believing in the best, we must understand that the worst scenario is also possible, so what is it , i'm talking to you, and every time i want to ask a question, you seem to feel it
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and you begin to explain what i wanted to clarify, but i, er, somewhat jumped at the thought that maybe not all of our audience will now understand what this concept of a political nation is that we are talking about now, because er, i am in i have been hearing and observing this in intellectual circles for a long time a discussion about this, but for me it is still important, hmm, a clear understanding that this conceptual dictionary is precisely fixed, that now our viewers clearly understand what we are talking about, because these are very important things, so what exactly is the definition of political nations that we can give and so that it didn't get mixed up - it didn't get mixed up with civil society, which is also being talked about a lot now, and uh, so that it doesn't turn out to be just an accumulation of some established words, the meaning of which we don't really understand. well, here you need i wouldn't be one of the good ukrainian philosophers. but i think that you have the opportunity to invite them, and i would, er, here resort to
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defining what kind of fraud that said that the nation is the daily fruits of cystitis, well, in other words , it's a daily referendum, and the ukrainian ethnos is what you belong to or don't belong to by origin, you can't choose it, you were either born ukrainian or not born ukrainian and there is no choice here, it's something that has its roots from the past, on the other hand, a political nation is something that has roots not in past a y in the future, this is what a person consciously counts himself to, and this is the daily choice of each person, this is a daily plemisyn, it means that every ukrainian and every ukrainian woman, as members of the ukrainian political nation, makes a choice in favor of ukraine every day, and we see by the way people who make a different choice because there are people who made a different choice i have such a right and they too and there are people who made a different choice and now they are making elections in favor of
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ukraine and there are people who on the contrary in the past it is impossible who you are were you born or who were you born in or what language did your mother sing lullabies in or what did you have there ah and for sure it's not about genes because we will understand that genotypes are not less than a mixed one we have a lot of different ones because well ukraine there was another big crossroads right there, everyone went from the east to the defense from the north to the south and vice versa and so on in different directions for thousands of years and what then well actually this is what ukrainian historian serhiy humenko calls a multi-frontier, that is, a re- the intersection of several large er geopolitical slabs here is the forest-steppe of the ukrainian farmers here is the nomadic steppe starting from the pechenegs of the polovtsians and on to the tatars and so on here is the forest er hunting gathering and this is absolutely different mendeltet well, this is what is meant here tourists formed muscovy er this is absolutely different from me detector compared to the ukrainian one, that is, it is not an agricultural forest-steppe where
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you invest your labor and you have a and this forest is a hunting-gathering and fishing forest. shot caught caught a pike, er, a fish, it means a fire-bird, something wolf, what does it mean that you got the best of you because you got something and it's about luck, you know, as they say, an american dreams of earning a million, a russian dreams of winning a million, that's another intelligence - it's not about work e-e compare ukrainian fairy tales and russian fairy tales and add to the forest-steppe of our ukrainian agricultural e and e moscow forest and e-e free steppe and add another fourth dimension the sea and the greeks of byzantium who came there who created and brought with us from there this is such a multi-frontier that is, we are at the crossroads here, everything is confused and in the ukrainian political nation of ukrainians, whoever chooses to be ukrainian is very simple and
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you have to choose to be ukrainian every day. and then you belong to the ukrainian political nation . it is not about the past, it is about the future, it is about knowing the past. to learn and to base our strength on it, but we are rooted in the future, we dream about the future of ukraine as we want and see it, and this is a lobbyist 's diary. to build and work on it, this is actually a political nation. of course, the basis is the old ukrainian ethnos, who knows how many years, well, there are a lot of us, er, 1000. yes, exactly, but not only er, because we can see it today, and it is very clearly visible in the villages ukraine, in which people of different ethnic origins, different religions , different ways of thinking about life serve today, and how are they united by the whole dream of a free
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, independent ukraine, a single cathedral in which everyone knows where this place is? and this is proper a political nation, let it be a scientific uncertainty, but it is about a feeling, because a nation is all about a feeling, and i like it. i told you that the drawing of a nation is a tribal group that reads common books, and because it is the common stories that make us a nation, a nation who invents a nation, poets invent, not constitutionalists, not people who wrote the constitution, but people who wrote a dream. we have such poets, prophets, who invent a nation, and from this point of view, taras hryhorovych is as much the father of the ukrainian nation as the fathers and the german nation, like goethe schiller or ska like well in the same way, other nations have such parents, or there danunci are the fathers of the modern italian nation, and i would like to clarify and detail something here, because i also
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feel a threat from our audience, who may read this as what does it mean that they invented the ukrainian nation, then it turns out that putin is right when he says that someone once invented ukraine, let's explain this point here, every ukrainian ah, because when the country didn't exist on the map , someone once invented it, and it's obvious that we don't live in russia of the 20th century ah things were invented in the moscow vygya, muscovy also existed, but the russian empire was seen by ukrainians starting from prokopovich's armchair and from this point of view, what is a nation, a nation says about a nation is an idea about a dream it is a dream about the future it is a dream about how everything should be it is a dream about which vlad is just for us and it's personal, the nation is always about the future and
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not about the past and although it is rooted in the past of course the ukrainian ethnos existed for a thousand years or more and at the same time the ukrainian nation is what appeared if the nation is a tribe which reads books, he doesn't start reading books before, all these people who read taras hryhorovych together, those people who read together frank les ukrainka, kotlyarevsky, all all people make up a proper political nation. i want to remind you of an interesting story that i really like for to me, such a very important moment in the history of the ukrainian nation, which we know little about and about which is little talked about, the year 1848. the spring of the peoples of europe, a wave of uprisings of various peoples, er, various such established, newly established, er, political nations is sweeping through who want freedom and unification, because then we know that germany did not exist then, italy did not exist then, and of course there were no
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such countries from central and eastern europe that we are familiar with, such as poland, the czech republic or hungary and a wave is sweeping across europe, in every capital of the future capital, a wave of demands for freedom and independence is sweeping through lviv, of course , it will not reach kyiv, because the iron curtain did exist, and no, it is not an invention of the soviet times, it still existed under the tsar and the so-called main russian council is gathering in lviv, uh, that’s what the first ukrainian organization of the ukrainian people was called then, of course, intellectual. because the ukrainian people at that time consisted mainly of the overwhelming majority of peasants and a small, small fraction, and the elites were very strongly polonized there in the west or russified and moskalized it is better to say here in the east, but but some intelligentsia was already there and they start writing what they can do where they can’t do anything, they write a manifesto you will allow and they write this manifesto
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starting with his words, my sons are 2.5 million people. and here is the historical moment when they cross out these words and write in their place the thinking of 12 million people. they actually hid ukraine . we understand that the lviv duara is especially contemporary and the poltava govirka, which became the basis of the ukrainian literary language , these are different conditions in different languages, belong to different empires, practice different religions, but they are all ukrainians, so what else? an example of how it was invented, that is, in fact , but on the other hand, they can go only what exists, how to cook, once again they asked germany, they asked where this country is, it is not there , because it is in my heart, they said , but it is not there on the map because there are, well, at that moment, about 400 different state entities where german is spoken in german
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or different languages, then and there they invented germany, that is, you cannot invent ukraine because it has always existed, but at the same time it had to be invented because otherwise it could not to appear on the map, there is such a paradoxical thing about the nation, then it turns out that it is a russian nation, which all the time looks back to the middle ages or to the olden times, then it turns out, i don’t know, it doesn’t exist in russian, it’s like it doesn’t exist , and this is actually the reason why it is connected to the national level with the cause and consequences of the russian -ukrainian war well, they watch the same movies that are there service novel irony of fate for the new year you can have an imperial identity that is not national and what is the fundamental reason here the russian-ukrainian war is that ukraine wants the future and russia wants the past and not only wants to drag ukraine and everyone else there, dudayev
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spoke about this even before khajuhar, but at the same time, why does russia want the past, why does it not suit russia the future ukraine wants the future er all countries the vast majority of countries in the world want the future what about russia although in the past because there are two things for you beacons that shine in ukraine and that attract us and they are repelled by the first such beacon is europe let's see on ourselves what we say we ukrainians have always been europeans, the same russia was born as a part of europe in my parts of europe, we europeans defend european values here we have european integration written in the constitution in the constitution and here we are. so we defend european values with weapons in our hands and so on, what does russia say in me europe we've never been europe we don't want to be in the corner we can't be in europe and we won't be europe because we hate it all here's the first beacon and the second beacon is nationalism because what
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ukrainian says to ukraine what ukrainian nationalism says to ukrainians and it has its own country and that's good and it's cool and it's a prosperous happy fair life and why can't russia and because there is no russian nation there is a russian empire and there is no nation as soon as russia accepts the concept nations this means that there is no russia, this means that there is an independent tatarstan, an independent bashkortostan, an independent buryat, an independent yakutia, an independent chechen republic, an independent ingul republic and many, many other entities, including independent siberia and the independent urals, and of course the independent ingra, about which the russian cultural culture all over the world is already singing and dancing today, starting with the oxymoron and ending with the masyans, which everyone knows very well, and where is russia then, and it is not there, then muscovy is like that as a small state within the boundaries of which there is 15 century or so, that is, as soon as they accept the concept of a nation, they cease to be an empire, because a nation is modern and an empire is
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the middle ages, it is the last or maybe the penultimate empire on earth. the empire does not use 21 in fact, they have reached the limit of their existence and sooner or later , well, i personally believe that these processes have been irreversible for a long time. it will end with the fact that all these nations will become new, we will see independent states, moreover, we see such beautiful political, cultural and trade relations with them, and what will remain of muscovy well, it will be like moscow, but i don't know what it will be there, let them be there if they want to winter let them winter within the limits of the moscow ring road, well, i would like to limit myself to this particular circle, but uh , i want to move on to a very important topic, which you talked about in particular in your lectures, saying
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that uh, it is very important to share the concept of crisis and general understanding what is a crisis and the concept of a phase transition, why am i talking about it, because it is obvious that all these processes that are currently taking place in the world, in particular, are connected with the war that russia unleashed, they do not exist in a vacuum, everything is as if connected by vessels we exist in one huge world, we influence each other, er, i understand that according to your logic, one of those phase transitions is happening right now, whose rights are eh, but a little complicated topic for television, but let's try eh, what is it about, and i'll start with the one about that they don't really like to talk about the world environmental crisis, it is in a report to the roman club called camon, and under that english name, even it was published in ukrainian, eh, team members , the english title remains, you can buy it and read it
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this is the questionable knowledge that if we continue to do what we are doing, then the planet has 20-25-3 years left, but except for climate change, it is all related to that because covid is also related to that. and if someone i watched the film contagion by soderbergh, he is busy in 2011, a prophetic film about the coronavirus, which perfectly shows everything that we saw in xx-xx and it is very clear that the cause of the coronavirus itself is that bats and people usually live in different places, people in cities bats in rainforests if we they cut down tropical forests - he says - they don't fly into cities and we finally have the result of contacts with you, which there will be a lot of contacts, and the russian-ukrainian war belongs to the same signs, because look , if oil did not have such a large weight in the eco energy balance humanity, if there were not such a high price for oil, then
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oil autocracies such as russia would not be so saturated with extra money, autocrats do not use money to make people live happier, wealthier, more culturally. and for what does the autocracy use this money to grab more of? and if oil didn't have such a huge weight in the economic balance and wasn't so expensive, then a russian wouldn't buy it, she wouldn't get drunk. the reason would not have started this war, therefore, then the carrier would be a small gas station in the swamps, which is basically what it is, as soon as oil prices fell very much due to the approach of humanity to new technologies due to renewed energy and due to responsible consumption due to new technologies , then the end would be an autocracy, but today such oil photos as russia feel great - i hope that it will not be for long
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, because it has already reached the whole world, finally there has been an understanding that it is impossible to give oil to autocracies eh a in this way, to be saturated with money because it ends badly, then this is the transition to another faction, which is connected with the fact that we need to do something with our style of production, consumption of the organization society and so on and so on and so on a-a well, otherwise it just won’t last long . otherwise there will be wars, famines, epidemics, and climate change, all those things that i have written in vain and haphazardly that will never happen again in the history of mankind, more in the book homudeus said that humanity has not always defeated epidemics, war and famine. no, it is not an epidemic, there will be no more famines. we already have epidemics . as for hunger, it is only thanks to the efforts of the international community. hundreds of millions of people in north africa it actually depends. i wouldn't say which ones we feed. it's not correct to say. yes, i would say that food security depends on us
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. they would feel that there were three times that the vival was not held. two. so what are these things ? this is all of these challenges that can only be overcome together . of course, they cannot be overcome in a regime where each nation starts when they say each country starts doing something on its own . no one interacts with anyone. and of course that eh in a they don't care about others because when someone pollutes the air, for example, and says, "i'm sorry, i'm polluting my air, i'm not polluting yours, what do you want me to do?" well, so- and-so doesn't work, and here i remember that uh-uh in the 21st year, as part of the first summit of the crimean platform, e- i had the honor of conducting a foreside study of the future of crimea 2050 in a fantastic resort of various experts from various fields and we thought about different
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scenarios for the future development of crimea depending on how the war will develop, the uneasy situation in the world, the black sea, and that's all such a-a economic trends social trends e-e our decision of ukraine regarding the fate of the crimean tatar people until ecologists did not stand up. they said, you know, that for the future of crimea, the most important country is not russia, not ukraine, and not turkey, and not uzbekistan, but china, because if china continues to do what it is doing, it will not even turn into islands on archipelagos. here's a story about how everything is connected to everything, that's why it is, but by the way , returning to the constitution, one of the things that we have to do in our society is to conduct a large internal work on awareness of what is the future of crimea and what should we do with it, uh, i am absolutely convinced that this is a formula that was developed on this very foresight, that crimea can be ukrainian only
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when it is crimean tatar, well , it will only be crimean tatar when it is ukrainian, that's true and this is a little bit it sounds paradoxical, but if you delve into this topic, it is clear a-a but we also have a huge number of myths about the crimean crimean tatar people, about their prospects and about their desires and dreams, and the crimean-tatar people themselves, too is continues to reflect on what he is ready for in order to return to his native land. so there are a lot of decisions that we all have to make for ourselves so that crimea is not a problem for europe, but a flowering vase of europe , so that we understand that this is the most flourishing corner of europe, which can be, well, in order to be seen, people are needed who are ready to lay down their lives not to have it become such people, there are many resources, yes, absolutely, the russians have turned crimea into
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a terrible wasteland on the on the source of more than one a several environmental disasters, and especially after the explosion of the kakhovka hpp and after what now awaits us in the development of the progression, especially with the black sea, people who live in the past and dream only of returning to the past, they have no future and they want to deprive the future all others moscow wants to deprive the future of ukrainians georgians i am not talking about bashkirs and yakuts er crimean tatars and so on and so on and so on and moscow wants to deprive the future of everyone because it is needed in the past er thank god that for another two and a half thousand years, humanity understood, uh, two and a half thousand years ago, and everything is clear that the war was mined , you can't win it, and you can win for the future, and i can only play for the past, because the future is the future, and the past
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no longer exists, no you can return twice to the same river, why did i bring up and touch on this topic about phased incomes, because it seems to me that we are often ukrainians, ukrainian women, especially now when we are in so much pain and this is the objective state of affairs when we have a war and people are dying and we are going through all this. i would a little bit er and that's normal, i don't want to sound somehow condemning or devaluing now , well, that's objectively, when something is on fire for you , you run to where it's burning, not where it's smoldering , that's right, and this applies in particular to environmental topics, but i really it is important to give an understanding that these connections that we are talking about now are somewhat more global , that is, whether our planet and we as humanity will have a future depends on how mature and aware ukrainian
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society will be, in particular, how developed it will be is our political nation or am i right in my opinions, this is absolutely true , but i would also like to add that whether humanity will have a future depends to a large extent on whether those dinosaurs of the empire will have the strength to try not to give the chandelier of the future because it flows into the past . the russian empire is just a good example, or rather an evil example, but a good example means that a-a what a-a what do those people who want to go back to the past look like. by the way, all russian culture has passed away. pay attention to a fantastic thing, all russian literature it's all about the past, there's nothing about the future, even science fiction, which we associate with space exploration, cities, and again with the study of galaxies . those people who i am someone gets into a time machine
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and is transported somewhere in the past from the time of stalin or ivan the terrible or someone else or maybe even earlier and already begins to act there and again, that is, it is not called scientists fiction, that is, society is completely devoid of the future and is completely immersed in the past and is trying to restore this past again. i don’t want to advertise modern russian literature, but i ’m sorry. a few years ago, oprichnik day was considered a sharp russian political satire, and today a detailed description of one of the possible real events is being considered. scenarios for the development of the russian empire. i really hope that we will still reach the balance sheet in kyiv.
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relates to our topic, but there is one more point that i would also like to talk about, and it may now sound very oblique and naive, but i was surprised because i have come across this thesis several times from, well, intelligent people, yes. well, let it not be scientists but at least from those people whom i consider adequate and they at some point, uh, it was three cases, three different people, if you generalize. they told me something like that . the empire, all empires will fall. they must fall , but we are heading towards the time of post-imperialism because, well, look. to america or not we call what she does colonial policy what we now all have as a model american higher education literature a lot of
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