[000:00:00;00] it may now sound very oblique and naive, but i was surprised because i have come across this thesis several times from, well, smart people, yes. well, let it not be scientists, but at least from those people whom i consider adequate and they at some point uh, it was three cases, three different people, if you generalize , they told me something like this, the empire, all empires will fall.

politics is what we now all have as an example american higher literature, there are a lot of american achievements, and so it is that it is not colonial policy, it is not imperialism, but in another dimension, what do you think about it, i think about it, what i think about it is science, and science has a very clear definition of empire, it is er a state system that is constantly aimed at seizing new resources, seizing new territories, assimilating or oppressing the local residents, so that the locals will always be people of the second, third, and fourth class, and to a-a, a-a, to pump resources from these and if you have a lot of culture , for example, it was in france, and in those years when france was no longer an empire, it got rid of its colonies, but had, for example , many cinemas and everyone watched french

or italian films. italy also lives there is no ecology when we watch french teacher films or is it imperial policy um that’s a question for us and why do i have it such films that the whole world watches and one way or another all uh countries want their uh culture to spread because they such way and promote their goods and services, not least because if we love french culture, it means that we would rather buy french goods than the goods of a country whose culture we do not know and do not like. look at korean culture, which is gladly consumed by half of southeast asia, if not all of it, but it is definitely not an empire, an empire is an invader, and an empire is someone who oppresses and follows, and from this point of view , russia is exactly an empire, and any country that wants to sell your culture to the world and its education is a normal competition in the field of culture and education and

we also have to participate in it, it is obvious when we say that south korea, the empire was spreading its culture, america was spreading its science, or great britain, the empire was spreading its education, it is well we are simply trying to blur the concept of empire , just as the russians do this in order to blur the concept of good and evil, blur the concept of responsibility, blur the concept of victim, they now say that they are the same victims of putin's regime as ukrainians ukrainian women blurring of concepts, it will never be productive, and because it always leads to the fact that the victim and the predator, the victim and the criminal are on the same board, the defender of the homeland and the hired killer are on the same board a- and the righteous and the sinners stand on the same board, this is usually a russian blurring of concepts a-a russia has been accusing america of the imperialism of its imperialism for many years

without acknowledging it, but at the same time russia accuses ukrainians and ukrainian women of nazism of their own nazism without acknowledging it and so on, this is an attempt to transfer responsibility from a sore head to health and er, we sinuses russian narratives, we simply must not spread what an empire is - it is known, it is the one who seizes other territories and oppresses other peoples in order to exploit their wealth and assimilate them or destroy them or turn them into people of the second of the third grade, at the end of our conversation, i would like to ask you a question that also claims a separate issue for us. maybe even for a course of lectures , but anyway hmm well, i can’t help but be tempted and ask you to give a definition or some a vision of what ukrainian society should do now, what tasks it faces precisely in this plane of the formation of a political nation, is it possible when a full-scale war is going on and

when we are trying to satisfy our basic need for security, or is it time to talk about it at all, and what can we do for this, see we will not become a political nation if we do not set ourselves the goal of a prosperous, just, happy country and happy ukrainians there, and for that if we analyze the wars that have been going on the planet and the different stories that happened with post-war countries, we will see that war is blood - it is death, it is suffering and destruction, but it is always a chance for a qualitative leap, and this chance can be used and this chance can be wasted, and then we will see what the conditions are uh, this qualitative leap, in order not to waste the chance, and here there are five of them. and in our conditions, these are five , first of all, this is a security umbrella, someone must open this umbrella for us, because otherwise we ourselves will not drag national security, being on

the border near this chaos which sources which a stand between us, and the second is the rule of law, er, nothing happens without it. and it’s just those days when judicial reform is taking place, and society doesn’t know much about it, or is focused on surviving the war, it’s important about it er, from the screen third - this is economic freedom. before the great invasion , ukraine was ranked 130th in the world according to the communist freedom rating. this is a terrible story with such economic freedom, you cannot hope for anything. fourth, this is democracy. this is not a general thing. there is a leap with democracy, there are countries that made great economic breakthroughs without democracy but we already have our own democratic structure and it seems to us that we simply cannot. we have already formed this middle class. we have already formed those people who asked for democracy human capital. and this is quality and quantity

, and how many people, and the demographic problem will be the biggest problem of post-war ukraine . what kind of sociology is half a joke? 3 million left , six of them will never return. and this that's only half the joke, and of course, the quality of what these people have in their heads, how ready are they to learn, master new knowledge, new professions, or are they ready to fight their own historical roots, distorted by the perception of the state, society, and people , by such a post-soviet, colonial start legacy and so on. and so on, i would say that we have a task for everyone, there is a task for the political elite, it is actually to modernize what is called to carry out all the reforms, fortunately we have a lot of help in the form of our foreign partners who won't give us money if we don't carry out reforms and money will be given only in exchange for reforms, and here

already advances don't work, first do your homework, then you get this task of the political class, there is civil society whose task is to preserve democracy, decentralization and all our achievements in this area and there is the task of e-e local communities whose main task is to increase the capacity of the communities themselves to ensure that people on the ground not only know theoretically what can be done, but also know how to do it, including this concerns restoration, because the money can get into the community team , is the community capable of mastering this money and using it for its modernization, the task of business is to attract investments, for that, it is necessary to make investment projects and invest in them yourself, and then attract investments from partners and but the vast majority of people say, i'm sorry, i'm not a politician, i'm not a small public activist , i'm not a journalist, whose task is to preserve

our most important value, freedom, all people are subjects, what makes ukraine different from us there are no small people a and so, uh, i'm not a businessman people say i don't mean uh local means some kind of head i'm just a ukrainian - it's a ukrainian woman what should i do and here there is a very simple answer, and mostly people's content, it's just uh- he is primarily responsible for his own life, here is a very simple answer, look at us, we all have to overcome in ourselves all the consequences of historical traumas of post-soviet ideas, and all the isms with which our heads are stuffed. it means that someone takes care of me, not me, the regime means that the state should be the main one in the economy and not uh-uh, what else does that mean, what kind of ism is marxism, communism means and so on and so on, and all these isms must be

overcome in oneself a- and this work of each specific person on himself, if i were to summarize it all, then i would say , in the words of the poet, that hetman is perfect not only in the sense of overcoming colonialism, but also of feudalism of all post-soviet isms. by the way, what are the directions of the head not only of those who left the soviet union for example, i and when i they accuse me of my biography, i always say that my biography should start with the fact that i was born in the soviet union and everything went from that moment yes, but this is of course a joke eh , the generation that grew up in independent ukraine has its head stuffed with the same isms eh post moscow by post-soviet inflections, because it is perfectly transmitted not through genetics, er, asexually, it is transmitted in the kitchen , er, and we all go there from time to time.

sovkova if i'm sorry for such a word of heritage, this is what each specific person in ukraine must work on, and this is something that each specific person in ukraine can definitely do, because it's about themselves, well, i would really like all of us to take advantage of this advice and somehow they wound up on their mustaches, or where did they go, at the very end, i want to keep my promises and ask for your advice to advise me to read about this, this is such a good quest. i think that, since i am a teacher, i get this question regularly i found an answer to it, uh, i found a very simple answer to it. i just started a telegram channel, where i read various books and those books that i choose in order to advise them to my students. and for me, students are from uh, super talented boys and girls in the ukrainian leadership academy to uh, uh, company owners in the presidential uh

, master of business administration programs , who are already over 40, and maybe even 50 , who have made their millions a long, long time ago, here are all these people a i choose books i i'm putting it in this telegram , and if we're on youtube, i hope that the link to this telegram channel on youtube will appear well, as it sounds, so to find it, then you need to, it 's called a baker with the letter yu, so... е or е-е letters у ua and е-e it's about books, not fiction. i'm an artist, i don't review books, only non-fiction books that exist, i advise every ukrainian to read, every ukrainian, ukrainians, and there aren't very many of them. over the course of a few years, i 've collected about 70 of them with a hook, but there, each person will be able to choose something for himself, of course history is about the brain, it's about technology, it's about the economy, it's about politics, it's about understanding, it's the light in which we are, of course, like

any person, i have my preferences , i have my favorite authors, which i recommend for every book, such as e- france from fukoyama or timothy snyder or neil ferguson eh, but at the same time, all books are available in ukrainian, they are published here and are in stores, so buy, read , ah, the question of books is obvious, as a librarian, i must say that reading books actually helps us to better understand the world in which stomach is a complex world, because if you asked me in one word to say the main trend of human history, i would say at least the last few thousand years, i would say complexity, complexity is increasing, the complexity of the world is increasing very strongly, our modern society is much more complex than the society of taras hryhorovych's time, and it, in turn , much more complicated than the society

of the times of the 15th century, and it, in turn, is much more complicated than ancient russia, and it is much more complicated than tripilla, the complexity is only our desire to find simple answers to complex questions also grows, it leads us to hell we need complex answers complex questions we don't need offices of simple solutions we don't need an office of complex solutions er and this is well it's a little complicated here i want to quote my favorite danish philosophy lena anderson, who said that we do not solve the problems that we have, but those that we understand, if our understanding is not enough for that, i am already deciphering to solve those problems for that awareness of the problems that we have well then instead of the problem that needs to be solved, we take the one that we understand and start doing something about it. and we may know that a complex solution to restoring soil fertility has a very, very complex system of various agricultural technologies for a very long and complex restoration of soil fertility

. it is much easier to say that this is all a witch, you need to find her and burn her and then everything will be fine here is the office of simple solutions okay well, i hope that we have done everything to encourage our audience to read today and not only those books who know where they will find it in your telegram channels, but also the constitution, because it is the main book and it is not in the telegram channel, but of course everything starts with it, because the constitution shows that we understand today about ourselves, that is why the constitution is not eternal, because we ourselves we can understand ourselves in a few dozen years much better than we understood it then. today we understand that the constitution needs many a-a changes and which reflect the changes that have occurred in the ukrainian political nation today, a deeper understanding of it, but at the same time we we have a good constitution, it works and it is already very good with this constitution, we are winning in the russian-ukrainian war

, and all the shortcomings - this is the constitution , someday in the future we will correct it when we think about the future dream ukraine, but first of all, of course, we we dream of victory, thank you very much for this conversation, thank you, you had enough strength to stop in the mountains at the beginning of the war, every day we find the strength step by step to return ours, you definitely have enough strength to reach victory, thanks to the defense forces of ukraine, we are leaving we will put forward because we understand that the most important thing is our wealth, our people, that is why we are happy for every

ukrainian and ukrainian who was saved because we know that there is no small help and we are ready to support to the best of our ability in the projectile only strengthens our unity and desire for victory, we think as a winner and recover from the ruins ukrainians don’t care about women, and here we stand when the country trembles from the explosions , when the night becomes day from the explosions, we worry about our relatives and they worry about us, our help

, the air defense forces keep the heavenly front they protect us and we must protect them, don't take them, don't post photos and videos of air defense work on the network , you will be able to forgive the russians one day well, only if every person from russia gets on their knees and apologizes for what they did to our cities and to our by the people of mariupol, kherson

, luhansk, donetsk, sumy, chernihiv , when the siren sounds, you have to hide in the camp, piles and bombs. i have no fear. i have self-control and it helps me a lot in life, and when the first explosion rang out, my heart stopped and i'm sorry, it's very difficult to remember, because i had the biggest fear that our children

would die here. i open the basement and there are five or six children and very small, and your daughter stands and looks and asks when we will be able to go home well, when the war is over, she still asks well, until now well, this is the kind of question that you can't answer. so we live under constant

gunfire, the bad guys break down and outside the window, almost vesna senior. my son timur, who was 11 years old at the time, had to go to school. lera got a little sick, so she had to leave me at home. my husband works near kyiv in the village of happy. where are we now, and he called at 1:30 a.m. and told me to i wasn't worried, but the war started, explosions could already be heard in kyiv, he was renting an apartment to the people of solomyan and told us to collect our things, he

would follow us , our idea was to go to belarus to visit our relatives, but it's good that god protected us , and after all, ira decided that the nearest to move here to the country house. i can say that the people here are our relatives. i'm from belarus . they don't really understand that there's a war going on in our country - it's just something, the same one with a machine gun is running around somehow. to forgive them probably not because, uh, maybe i can even

understand those russians who have no roots in ukraine and they have no one to talk to and all they see is their tv, so they listen to their news and read their press there, and i i understand what they have maybe there is no other option. they know what they are given, but there are many people who have ukrainian roots, who have relatives and friends here, but they do not understand the whole tragedy that is happening to us, and it is impossible to forgive such people. two years ago, we bought a country house, let's say a country house and we decided to go there because we understood that if the troops were to go there, they wouldn't make it because on one side we have a river and on the other side we have lakes, that is

, there was only one entrance to the country estate and we understood that it might be more or less calmer here but no it happened as expected, unfortunately, it was hot here, uh, it’s hard to forget and it’s probably impossible, only they don’t give air for three years . when we were loading the car in the city , of course, there was a panic, it was somewhere there at

eight in the morning, people were all running somewhere, someone was running someone ran somewhere to the shops, someone was already packing the cars to leave the city , the adults behaved not very confidently once themselves well, how can they be? dacha ya i drove them and went to work because there was no understanding of what started the war. i came to work on the way and met queues at gas stations. it was around 9:30. apparently there were queues for gas stations. it was not possible to get to work from work. i already

well, at work they told you to leave, uh, the war started and i went here , we were probably not ready after all, we didn’t pack any alarming suitcases, so everything that happened to be at hand we decided to go to kyiv we won't go because we thought it would be much worse in kyiv and we didn't understand whether we would be able to get to kyiv at all because we only have one road leading to kyiv, we had less at first, only our two families, mother, but it so happened that

our acquaintances had nowhere to go because the road to the village was already blocked and they asked to stay with us on the first day of the war . 18 people came here with us because people were afraid to stay in the city and leave their children because it was already the first day 24 were already very strong arrivals and we understood that russian troops would go through our city to kyiv, they planned all these arrivals and departures , they were all through us because on that side we have a city, here we have the village of kulychivka , here we have the village of shestovytsia and that's it and that's all, all these projectiles, they just flew over us, the sky was just there, everything was cut, all the clouds were just cut, all of them were cut by the shells

, the gratings were cut on the first day. that moment it was very bad that they understood all this, well, they asked what war is, uh, who are russian soldiers like on tv, they showed there and so on, they asked a lot of questions, there were and still are a lot of them at this level, here they were behind the wall of the children's heads and that's why we had to strengthen everything from what it was. because we see, we bought it only two years ago and, well

, they didn't bring it to us. then we already understood that if it flies into the house, it will either burn down or simply collapse. a miracle for our land sacred ukraine once upon a time my grandmother who witnessed the war at the age of 11 and when she told these horrors i

could never believe that this would happen to my children , we prayed to god. you wet it with another rag and it seemed that it could bring some benefit to our country the first night in the basement was terrible because nothing was ready for you to sleep there big holes we were preparing to live there because we thought that everything would pass us by, but that didn't