[000:00:00;00] markus who wrote the report well, but right now at this hour at 9:00 a.m. i remind you that we remember all ukrainians whose lives were cut short by russian aggression against ukraine . let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens

of ukraine who died in the war that started it. 'yazala russia i congratulate everyone who is with us this is freedom morning my name is oleg gall and we are starting our broadcast it is nato day two final what will we be the final documents of the meeting of the leaders of the alliance in lithuania what place do they have will occupy the ukrainian issue ukraine and 11 other countries signed a memorandum on the training of ukrainian pilots for the f-16 this was reported by the minister of defense reyznikov how much such a decision will speed up the supply of fighter jets to ukraine we will ask experts about it one of the main meetings president

zelenskyy will have a conversation with his american colleague by bike, what signals can washington send to kyiv, and let's also talk about the fact that the members of the us delegation were angered by zelensky's criticism of nato , the washington post writes about this in particular likes, comments and sharing are traditionally welcome to this video, and i also remind you that if you haven't done it yet , please subscribe to the youtube channel of radio svoboda, this is our opportunity not to lose each other on youtube today is the second day of the nato summit in vilnius ukrainian the delegation will continue bilateral negotiations with partners, the main priority. on this day , the strengthening of the ukrainian army on the battlefield and the acquisition of new weapons for the ukrainian army, president zelenskyi promises, based on the results of the second day of the summit, to lead to more tools for the defense of ukraine, our defense is the first priority and i am grateful to our partners for their willingness to take new steps

, more weapons for our soldiers, more life protection for all of ukraine, we will bring new important defense tools to ukraine as well. zelenskyi's participation, which is called a historical event. and according to the results of the first day , the expected invitation to join the alliance will not be received by kyiv in return for the mandatory implementation of the membership action plan. which all candidates for admission to ukraine pass, it was canceled in addition, the allies from the alliance promise a new program of long-term support for ukraine that will help restore the security of ukraine in its defense sector , here they again say the future of ukraine in the alliance but kyiv receives the invitation when the allies agree and ukraine fulfills the conditions members of the delegation of the united states in vilnius were angered by president zelensky's post in which he accuses nato of indecisiveness

, the american newspaper washington post writes about this referring to an anonymous official, the article says that zelenskyi's post surprised politicians alone in vilnius, because there biden planned to demonstrate the unity of the alliance and show his ability to rally partners, which is important for his re-election in the next elections in the united states, and although the washington post writes that zelenskyi in this post did not i mentioned personally, however, these appeals are directed to the white house, i would like to note that president volodymyr zelensky wrote his rather emotional post on social networks on his own free will when, as he explained, they arrived signals that he will not receive an invitation for ukraine there, zelenskyi in particular called the lack of any time frame for receiving an invitation for admission and membership as unprecedented and absurd for ukraine , uncertainty is a weakness, wrote ukrainian president rostyslav khotyn international appearance or radio freedom is already with us on the phone i congratulate yazka rostyslav. please tell me about the results, how to react to the first

day of the summit, what are its main conclusions , well, there is such a thing in brussels, in the nato headquarters , and in european institutions, the european the union of concepts, what is it called, papyrology, that is, the study of work on documents, every word is verified, the struggle for every wording is what zelenskyi calls in bordig , that is, the struggle for wording, and here there was a huge struggle for wording for its wording , paperology, what will comedians look like at the end of the first day that is the main focus of this summit and there is a key article, it is the 11th article that concerns ukraine's prospects for membership, i will quote it briefly, literally two sentences or three we fully support ukraine's right to choose security, options, ukraine's future in nato, and further, it is very important that we will be able to extend an invitation to ukraine to join the alliance

when the allies are ready and the conditions will be fulfilled, i.e. the word "invitation " is "invite ". disappointed the ukrainian delegation, i told the head of ukrainian deformation, dmytro koleb, such mixed feelings in the reaction of the ukrainian delegation to this nato decision, it is such a duplicitous duality, so compromising, but nato secretary general and gen. stoltenberg said that after all ukraine's path to membership has been drawn and the main thing now is for ukraine to win this war. and he also said that it is a very important decision that should not be underestimated. that nato has now rejected the membership action plan as a requirement for ukraine on the path of integration into nato, i.e. without pdc, which was written in the bukhara nato declaration of 2008, now it is canceled for ukraine, i told jen stoll , now instead of two steps to nato membership

, ukraine must take one step jens stolberg listen to the ukraine sensor, we confirmed that ukraine will become a member of nato and agreed to cancel the requirement for a membership action plan . this will change ukraine's membership path from a two-stage process to a one-stage one. we also made it clear that we will extend an invitation to ukraine to join nato when the allies agree and the conditions are met. the americans and other nato partners, the ukrainian partners, were also a little surprised by this e-e post in volodymyr zelenskyi's social networks, he called it unprecedented i absurd what he did not give dalota and they were not going to give a time frame for the invitation and for joining the alliance, it was clear that it jumped out when nato came, but still speaking later in the evening at a rally here in the center of vilnius in front of the ukrainian community and lithuanians and volodymyr zelenskyi said that ukraine received security from nato from a nato member, but with its membership ukraine would strengthen the north atlantic alliance

volodymyr zelenskyi nato will give ukraine security ukraine will make nato stronger thank you for your help to our defense for your clear and an honest and, importantly, bold position regarding the invitation of ukraine to nato, the ukrainian flags on the streets of lithuania clearly prove that we are already allies and ukraine will protect both its freedom and yours, and never, never, and no one can look back at moscow, this is the phrase look back at moscow, it is obvious that after all after all, there are ukrainian partners in nato who do not look around, but take moscow's opinion into account and calculate

. this is half-hearted, a little bit of a duplicitous decision here at the summit, the first is that they thought that the war in ukraine and these successes of the armed forces of ukraine would be enough for ukraine to be invited to nato. it was also obvious that the example of finland was inspiring, which submitted an application in april last year. in may of last year, she submitted an application and in april of this year she was accepted , that is, in 11 months she joined nato . it is also obvious that there was some kind of reassessment by ukraine of the eastern flank of nato and the influence in the alliance of the countries of these neighbors of ukraine, the baltic states or other states in the czech republic, there is something else, yes, everyone in nato is equal, yes, everyone has a concerted decision to make, but still , no one canceled the fact that the united states is the leader in the alliance and the influence of germany is the same very, very big, it is also obvious that there was a little overestimation of the successes of the armed forces on the battlefields of successfully repelling russian aggression, yes, the armed forces

are very cool, but it is not armies that join nato , states join nato, but here in ukraine for ukrainian states have a lot of homework, a lot of reform tasks, maybe it's a good thing that ukraine is moving towards the european union in parallel, because these reforms that it is making will be important for the eu and for nato. received candidate status from the european union in four months. well , i thought that after submitting an application to nato in september of last year, in 9 months , the candidate would receive some kind of official invitation. well it did not happen, but the ukrainians do not fold their hands, they will continue to act, just a word, and what to expect today, because there should be a large number of bilateral meetings, plus the inaugural ukraine nato summit, what exactly does it envisage, why is it so important? well, bilaterally, the most important meeting will of course be bilateral

joe biden she seems to be confirmed, by the way, zelenskyi can use, well, talk about all these nuances, which, so to speak, were yesterday’s non -invitation from the other side without the presidency and the absurdity of the quote from zelenskyi there is no absence of a timetable, it is clear that the journalists noticed that joseph biden was not present at the dinner for the heads of state and governments , it was like that yesterday, perhaps he did not want to sit at the same table with zelensky, so that there were not all these diplomatic nuances, some kind of friction, and today they relations will be clarified, so to speak, and obviously there will also be a meeting with the leaders of canada, france , germany, japan, and other countries . there will also be a bilateral press conference with the berg agency from volodymyr zelensky. but the most important thing, of course, is the first inaugural meeting of the ukraine nato council, which essentially changes and elevates the previous commission, which was founded

in 1997 by leonid kuchma, to a higher level. so, now the council of ukraine is very prestigious, it is still a much higher status, ukraine will be equal as a partner in this council, ukraine can initiate such councils on its own initiative when it feels the need to do so, for example, to be strongly fenced off or something like that. it is also very interesting that earlier ukraine had a little trouble with russia, because in in 2002, russia created the russia-nato council with nato, but when the annexation of crimea and the war in donbass began, nato no longer convened this council with russia. and now ukraine will have a council with nato . that's very prestigious, it's very cool. that's because you take relations to a higher level. of ukraine and the north atlantic alliance olezhe thank you very much rostislav rostislav khotyn international viewer of radio svoboda about the events in lithuania and what to expect from the second day of the nato summit , the confidence of the member countries that ukraine

will join nato is now much higher than in 2008 2018 at the summit in bucharest, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, expressed this opinion in an exclusive interview with radio liberty, while commenting on the final declaration of vilnius, at the same time he noted that there is a decision that frankly upset ukraine and it concerns the allies' response to ukraine's euro-atlantic ambitions. the wording of the invitation is written in to the final communiqué, dmytro kuleba called this quote too general. listen to all the details in an exclusive interview with zoryana stepanenko. so, ukraine expected that vilnivskyi himself will make its path to nato irreversible, and considering the fact that the declaration has already been made public and we do not see the wording there that the alliance invites ukraine to membership when the war ends, can it be considered that this goal has been achieved and how this summit will go down in ukrainian history the path to nato for ukraine is absolutely irreversible today in 2023, the confidence of nato countries that ukraine will be a member of nato is much higher than

in 2008, it is not comparable to this, which were some very important decisions that were made make ukraine's path to nato shorter, for example, the cancellation of the pdc is a very big story, in fact, six months ago , no one even dared to talk about it . and this second solution is the creation of the ukraine nato council, but not just the creation of the council . there is nothing like that in the council itself, but it is important detail to this council, for example, there was a council of russia in nato and it was a privileged partnership format. and we insisted that the rules of procedure of the council of ukraine in nato should clearly state that this is a tool for bringing ukraine closer to membership, that is, everything is sharpened under acceleration

of our membership in nato , but there is a decision that frankly upset us . and today we are talking about it all day with our allies . ukraine appeared nearby , but we are categorically, well , this approach categorically does not suit us. status will receive an invitation to become a member of nato, so we have mixed feelings about the summit, and the communiqué signed by all allies states that ukraine will be able to be invited to nato when all its members agree and when the conditions allow, we would like

to tell you here what makes this summit different from bucharest, which ukraine has defined for itself as sadly memorable and what is different not only in form and in essence, but in bucharest, we were offered a path to membership in nato in two steps. first, you have to pass the i emphasize the multi-year program, the multi-year program, then get an invitation and then membership. now, the pdc is being cleaned and they say that your path to nato will consist of one step in two years, but when this step will be taken . when they give us an invitation, we were not told a little behind the scenes. i had to drive to you from the bilateral meetings with the ministers of foreign affairs of the nato countries, and they all assure me

that, dmytro, we understand your feelings, but we are convinced that there will be no repeat of bucharest. i ask them the following: why do you think that way? their answer is because back then they gave you the prospect of a joint venture. it's all great, of course, but if you knew how they say it's not for sale, that is, you can't go out and tell people, they promised me at the meeting that this time it would be a different problem. so when, when, will the conditions be fulfilled, what, under the condition, by

whom, they should be formulated, which do you want more since our position is ukraine, all the conditions exist in order to invite ukraine to become a member of nato, that is, here we generally have fundamentally different positions, their position is that there are any conditions that must be fulfilled , we will work with our allies so that this does not freeze in place and we were moving forward well, on the very first day of the tonatu in vilnius, french president emmanuel macron announced the decision to transfer long-range scalp and g cruise missiles to ukraine and emphasized that these missiles will be transferred to the armed forces of ukraine to strike deep temporarily of the occupied territory of ukraine on the objects of military logistics of the russian forces. ukraine, in turn, promised that it would not use the treasure for strikes on the territory of russia. the number of missiles that france plans to transfer to ukraine is unknown, but ukrainian experts of the defect express publication draw attention to the fact that earlier the french newspaper limon wrote that in at the disposal of the armed forces

of france there are only 400 air missiles of this type of missiles in the skalt can be called the french sister of the british missile from the shadow torrent they were both created on the basis of the same of the project and have a visual similarity, analysts write a defect express oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert of the center for defense strategies is already with us on the air p oleksandriya greetings good morning how do you generally assess the guarantees of security and support that will be given to ukraine in the final documents of the summit that is ongoing in vilnius, in particular as for long-term support for many years, well, first of all , it should not be called security guarantees, since security guarantees can be either nuclear weapons , of course, not our option, or the fifth article of the washington treaty well, we can see that she left this policy of ambivalence too much, on the one hand, confirming

that nato will be happy to see us but under certain conditions , and i absolutely agree with the minister . the wording is vague, it definitely does not encourage us and the third option - this is an agreement such as, for example, between the united states and japan, not israel , i will tell you why. that is, in fact, security guarantees - these are guarantees that in the event of an attack, no they will not only provide assistance, but they will also defend the territory of their ally by force of arms, and we are not offered this, so it would be correct to call this a guarantee of assistance and not a guarantee of security . these are very often heard on our airwaves, and the western expert community says that ukraine will receive such guarantees as israel, but israel does not have nuclear weapons that it can

use. this is the first point . the attacks are all operational-tactical missiles, i am not talking about strategists , they are other things, the third extremely important point is that israel can make decisions on its own to strike any territory where it believes there is a threat to its security, in our case we have limitations, we can to strike exclusively on its own territory of the temporarily occupied russian federation, so let's say this is the model that we have, that is , they wrap it in the israeli one, but in fact it is not like that in essence. of course, it is positive that our partners, who are not allies yet, have offered them, of course, we will see the documents themselves and , accordingly, what they are going

to transfer to ukraine and whether to jointly produce in the long term. this is extremely good, good thing, because until today, from the beginning of rammstein , what is given to us is the goodwill of our friends, partners who understand what is happening if the russian federation is a threat to all of ukraine now, but in principle in this whole civilized world and now, to sum it up very briefly, after this summit, how much closer will ukraine become to nato? and i don't think that it has become closer to nato than before , because this wording, which is stated in the final communiqué, leaves the same uncertainty as i was in bukhara with the summit, that is, in principle, yes, but this process has not been launched . moreover, as you know, ukraine did not demand that we

be accepted immediately. it did not demand that there be a clear date. in moscow understood that what they didn't do, which territories they didn't annex, didn't buy, all this doesn't matter , because our panat partners are ready to take such steps in order to show that there will be no distribution lines in europe, and with such significant language, they actually prolonged this uncertainty. i am not saying that we have become smaller, you have become more distant from nato, no absolutely , but the fact that we have not come closer is for sure and this has become a holiday exclusively for lithuania, which has supported us immensely both visually and diplomatically and militarily, and for for finland, it did not become historic for its own nato for europe as a whole, because without ukraine in nato, there is no clear guarantee that this

will happen in the near future. europe will be in danger, just as we are. announced that the coalition for the training of the air force of ukraine on f-16 aircraft has already been formed, according to him , the coalition included 11 partner countries, which countries were included in this coalition reznikov did not specify, but thanked denmark and the netherlands for leadership in this process, let's listen to the minister now, ukrainian technical pilots and support personnel will participate in the training program, there is a possibility of including other types of fighters in the program , the coalition is ready to consider other ways to provide ukraine with fully functional f-16 capabilities, how much does the creation of such a coalition, from your point of view, accelerate the process of transferring fighter jets to kyiv in the future, well , you know, all issues should be considered in principle in the white house, because the signal

from there is that it is appropriate and that this should be started the process is the most important in december. last year, the first assessment of the ability of ukrainian pilots was already made . this means mastering this technique, and it seems to me that a conclusion was made in may. 4-5 months. imagine if a decision was made to provide ukraine of such machines of such capabilities at the beginning of this year. i am not talking about last year, even then . of course, we could already have these machines , we could operate them, so the question here is by and large the caution of the red lines which drawn up in the heads of certain individuals in washington and berlin and what actually what we saw on paper in this comic is the result of this very restraint of fear and the russian federation in relation not only to ukraine well, but to nato members as well the fear that russia can use nuclear weapons on a large scale does not

stop the transfer of these planes to ukraine, but i understand that for now the prevailing opinion is that this will happen after the end of the war, that is, they do not want to annoy putin again. i don't know what should happen well, maybe god forbid something will happen to the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant when they understand that well, in principle , ukraine should be given everything except weapons of mass destruction , i don't want you to be here, but nato is also preparing to defend itself and strengthen its troops. i suggest now to listen to stoltenberg also approved the most comprehensive defense plan since the end of the cold war it is designed to counter the two main threats we face russia and terrorism under our new plans nato aims to have 300,000 troops in

high readiness capabilities including significant air and naval capabilities reliable deterrence and defense require a strong industrial base so leaders approved a new defense manufacturing action plan this will speed up joint procurement increase interoperability and create investment and production capacity for this we need to invest more in defense. in other words, it turns out that nato is preparing for a possible conflict with russia. moreover, it was created to stop the communist invasion of the soviet union on the one hand and the allies on the other hand to control that germany so that it would not rise up, there was no 3 sentiment . and by the way, you mentioned these plans, and this is very good news , especially for the baltic countries. because earlier it was assumed that russia could seize these republics first, and then, due to the

failure of nato, after a certain period of time, they would have to be released . imagine if that were the case to be with by the baltic states, looking at the experience of mariupol, thank you, thank you for this inclusion, if you found the time, oleksandr kara, diplomat, expert of the center for defense strategies, a guest of our broadcast, we talked about what the results are, nato itself, and how much it brought ukraine closer to the alliance. well, the presidents of the united states and ukraine they will meet on the sidelines of the nato summit in vilnius , this information was confirmed in the president's office and in the white house by the us president's national security adviser or as salvan said that zelensky and biden will talk quote about long-term commitments to help ukraine protect itself from aggression now and in the future, according to the adviser to the office of the president of ukraine mykhailo podolak, who confirmed the meeting with zelenskyi biden , the leaders will also discuss on the air the issue of accelerated supply of weapons to ukrainian soldiers, in particular, they will talk about aviation and long-range missiles. let's go, we will quote

why russia must necessarily lose and why it is beneficial for the democratic world as a whole and what russia should look like after this loss economic support of ukraine for reforms, anti-corruption and law enforcement activities should be left aside, another topic of the meeting between biden and zelenskyy is the discussion of reforms at the request of nato, according to the adviser of the us president on national security, the alliance will determine the format of such reforms so that ukraine can quickly implement them and join nato, and on shelest, candidate of political sciences, director of security programs of the ukrainian foreign policy council prisma is already with us on the air i greet you good morning how much this conversation between biden and zelenskyi kiev and washington need what do you think or from this information that you possess will be the main messages . what do you think? well, you really know what i said yesterday , will this meeting take place at all after the final comedy that we saw and how do we know exactly what

the american position is contributed to some wording that does not suit ukraine very well , that is why it is extremely important that this meeting of the leaders of the two states still takes place, it will take place after the meeting of the ukraine nato council, so it will be interesting to see whether we will reach some. that is, we do not expect statements, but some documents after this council. but all the same, there will be a press release and everything else, and therefore i think that this will be important , including for clarifying the ukrainian position, that despite our criticism, we understand all support and we appreciate the support that we lyceum students receive, but there will also be certain explanations from the american side and why they still supported such a much softer wording than what