[000:00:00;00] yes, it's from the germans, despite the fact that millions of poles were killed during the second world war, that's why, unfortunately, this is a really politically motivated information construct that really plays a big role in polish society now, talking about the fact that volodymyr wrote very little time i recently read that even the majority does not agree with the fact that, for example, serbia in bosnia committed genocide, that is, most researchers believe that it was not a genocide . it was ethnic cleansing. was it a genocide in poland, so it is official formulated at the legislative level, whether these acts were genocide of the ukrainian state against the poles, the definition of these events as genocide does not correspond either to the definition of genocide, or to historical events, or to talk about some kind of political reconciliation. ensured

only if the state is behind the perpetrators , only the state can organize, that is , genocide, therefore the thesis about mutual ethnic cleansing in which ukrainians and poles were also guilty which ukrainians the poles were both victims and executioners at the same time - this is the only correct thesis from a historical and legal point of view, and it can, among other things, be the basis for a certain moral rethinking of this conflict for mutual forgiveness and for all time to remain in the past and, by the way, historians recently they made such a calculation and established that 9145 by name 9145 ukrainians were victims of this volyn tragedy, eh , the final calculations are still ongoing, this is the first thing, and the second thing, which is even more interesting, is that nothing like this is being done on the polish side on the polish side, they simply sacralized those who are in the 100,000 and attempts to clarify who exactly it is about, where exactly people died, in fact

there are none on the polish side, the only thing that rests on is some research that claims to be a generalization - these are exclusively memories, despite the fact that we have thousands and thousands of documents that give a completely different picture of what was happening. unfortunately , there is a picture of mutual ethnic cleansing. are there enough historians in poland who are ready to research and talk about what is actually in history in the documents and talk about it out loud? fearing despite what the polish authorities are doing at the top of our country, the answer to the first question is short, if possible. yes, to the second question , i am not sure because the actual political decisions that were adopted in poland in 2016-17-18 put an end to the existence of a very important format of polish- of the ukrainian forum of historians, because if the law stipulates responsibility for denial of genocide , what kind of discussion can there be with the participation of polish researchers? it is obvious that the majority of polish

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of the sixth convocation, an expert on international issues are sad, we congratulate you. good day , dear colleagues. well, i will say that today is the last final day of vinnytsia. the main three positions specifically regarding our issue are a long-term program of support for both the training of ukrainian soldiers and assistance with armaments, the creation of a political such political council ukraine nato in order to solve purely political issues, not military ones well, the third is actually an invitation to ukraine under an accelerated procedure without implementation the implementation of the so-called membership action plan, let me remind you that earlier all countries, almost all of them, went through this implementation plan, well, except for sweden, finland, finland was already joining nato

, sweden is about to stand on the threshold well, and the day before and since the beginning of today, at the summit, the ukrainian president said the following about his expectations, he said that there are three priority questions on our agenda for today, first - this is a new package of weapons to support the army on the battlefield, second, i think this is an invitation to nato. we want to be there we receive the same level as others. this is an invitation. when security conditions permit, i will discuss it with my partners. all these things were said by the ukrainian president. well, now let's talk with yevhen dobryk, the people's deputy of the sixth convocation outside the previous verkhovna rada of the expert of the international company yevgeny. good day to your expectations. look how much what we will hear today in the final declaration and read, well, coincides with our expectations from the freedom of the 23rd year. well , of course, everything that we probably wanted to expect from the freedom of suma received yes and this is, first of all, a direct road map to when we become nato members, and everyone hoped that this would be the next summit in washington

, the jubilee summit, and we receive this invitation but we must understand that the north atlantic alliance is a strategic-political and defense union in which all decisions are made by consensus in a consolidated and of course in this given situation what we received today and will receive as a result of this final declaration. this is a very long way forward, first of all we received the support of at least 23 countries that signed up for the fact that ukraine should become a member of nato. this is a very big step forward. the fact that there will be no nuclear war is a huge step forward. of course, we will receive security guarantees from the big seven. this is very important for us because we were waiting for four countries france germany great britain united states today we will get this family you beat me about the numbering a little later i wanted to ask but none the less but none the less look let's talk about it more but very many, well, in particular, in the russian media. well, some of ours in social networks, in some media, there is such a position, well, treason, or radophilism

, the russians betrayed us directly, they directly say that the donkey was shown a tasty one yesterday, and he will go after her. with this carrot well, how to explain how to carry out this communication so that well, we don't have such a narrative of russian in ours in our society, well, in our media, our social media, in what way, well, first of all , we must understand that we are moving into a democratic field, we are moving into a democratic society, we are moving towards the north atlantic alliance and the european union - these are democratic countries with certain principles and certain standards, and we must understand that there is no other way. we are an authoritarian country and we are not moving towards authoritarian field, that's why we have all the procedures that we have, we must come to them, we must come to them, and i don't think there is any betrayal or anything else, they warned us, all the members of the alliance, the larger members of the alliance, that the hot phase of hostilities is currently active. we cannot become members of the alliance, they warned us that there should be a consolidated decision

to be all members of the alliance 100% understand and what we have in the balance today at this summit. i still consider it a very big step forward and we should talk about what in we have a very serious and high prospect of becoming members of the north atlantic alliance. well, let's be brief about jc seven . today, a joint declaration will be signed by the leaders of the country. so hints at the fact that let's get her to us, too, what will be there. therefore, the joint declaration, which is expected to be signed by all members of the numbers, will determine the format of support for ukraine from the allies. in the following years, with with the aim of ending the war as well as deterring or repelling any offensive aggression , this is the first time that such a number of countries have adopted such a comprehensive agreement. countries during the adoption of the budapest memorandum, will this not be a repetition of a repetition

, please no, it is not, it is not a repetition of the budapest memorandum, it is indeed a very serious and substantial support for the expansion support for the security guarantee that we expected from the four countries, as i said. now it has expanded at the level of jisaev to the g-7 - this is really the most powerful economy of the world, the most powerful financial resources , powerful armies of the world, and so on, that is, here it is a very big e- it is important at the intermediate stage before joining the north atlantic alliance. that is, it is military-technical assistance , financial-economic, political, very important for us. it is very nice that there is such an expansion. we thought there would be four countries. and you see it expanded to the entire seven, including japan. japan is a representative of a completely different region, so it is very important for us. i think it will contribute to the acceleration of our actions, which we must do first of all on the battlefield and restore the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine

well, who else came to vilnius the day before ursula von der liegay, the head of the european commission, that is, the government of the european union, who will obviously in a year apply even for the position of un secretary general in at least the western media write about everything that she while the number one candidate for the post of huck after jens stotenberg and what she said about the european european union integration and the movement of ukraine at the current moment usula von derlin direct speech the speed with which ukraine is moving on the way to eu membership is impressive, it is progress that is based on merit, enthusiasm, intensity with by which ukraine is reforming and rapidly approaching eu membership, let me remind you that this fall, ukraine is expecting a clear plan, that is , a timetable for its approach to joining the european union. negotiations, what are we going to this autumn, what achievements are we approaching and what tasks are still facing us on this way? well, we actually fulfilled all seven recommendations of the european commission that were given to us, which we had to

fulfill in order to start the last, last stage of e in order for us to join the european union - this is the stage of negotiations on joining the european union, and that is , there is a clear plan that regulates all these actions to date. in fact, we are left with the reform of the constitutional court and we are left issues related to anti-corruption policy, which are very painful. by the way, they were also raised for joining the euro-atlantic alliance and for joining the european union . if we do it all, i hope. we have certain chances to become a member of the european union in the short term , the short term perspective is about how many years, i think we can become a member of the european union in about a year, if we do everything clearly, there are no obstacles here, mr. yevgeny and regarding such a plan specifically regarding membership in nato, in your opinion, when it may appear or

at least some of its outlines may appear, because well, the war can last for years and well, it didn't have to be for decades, and this number is a huge number of deaths every day, every month, and every year unfortunately, when we see this plan , will we write it ourselves? it is also difficult for me to say this term, because everything really depends on the active hot phase of hostilities, while the hot phase is going on, nato will not accept us. we must be realistic in in this regard, everything will depend on how it will be on the battlefield, how we will restore our territorial integrity, this is very important. and those aspects about which, for example, joseph biden said . this was a direct signal. for us, this is the rule of law - this is judicial reform - this is anti-corruption policy and security in you, the situation inside the country, that is, we must, our special services must destroy the fifth column, neutralize it in order for ukraine to enter the alliance without the russian agents, which are still very

powerful in ukrainian society and in services and other state structures, it is very important. when we do it, then i think a consolidated decision will be very quick regarding our entry into the north atlantic alliance. well, not only all the different structures you mentioned, but also social networks and some mass media and telegram the channels are also corrupted by these people, so be careful with the information that comes to you and when it spreads in our media . such as treason treason. they themselves begin to compare, well, this is not quite true. well, after all, support is support, and military training trains our soldiers and gives us financial support . regarding military support, i already asked a question in our guest yesterday. it seems to me that this is a very important topic, about which somehow, well, in the background, we say very little. this is the beginning of the production of western weapons on the territory of ukraine

. of ukraine this is one of the three largest military concerts for the production of weapons in the world , let me remind you what the specialization of armored vehicles is. well, there are also other systems. it is possible to be wrong . it will be the western part of ukraine, well, it is a military secret, obviously, for sure, where it will be placed, how much is the security situation with this production, will it be respected, is it possible to do now in the conditions of war, and how globally it shows support for ukraine in the future, because the plant is being built. well , not for one year, obviously, not for two, please. well , first of all, this is a very correct and essential step . we must understand that if the production of foreign weapons is located on the territory of ukraine. this is a very serious signal that the support will be long-term and very serious . next

, we should not only focus on this. in our country, ukroboronprom must do something, now the head of ukroboronprom has been changed, he must clearly give some impetus to our production to work, otherwise there will be absolutely no sense in this. i think there will still be questions about other e-e manufacturers that will be located on the territory of ukraine , foreign ones will produce other models of military equipment, and i have this, and i think this is a very serious prospect for us and a very serious signal, well, our business is ready to invest in similar there should be purely state investments in such production. if we have a full-scale war, it should be a consolidated position of the entire society and the state and the private sector. otherwise, such a monster as the russian federation will be very difficult for the state to defeat on its own, mr. wine.

i wanted two more words to ask you about the existence of the grain corridor. i read the latest reports that a lot of ships are currently loaded and cannot leave the waters of the black sea, from the waters of actually ukrainian ports, some the ports are generally not used for grain loading. and that the russian attacks on odesa port have resumed, will there be a grain corridor , will turkey itself, for example, be able to provide guarantees to guarantee the movement of these vessels with ukrainian grain , judging by the behavior of erdogan, i think that he did not follow this blackmail started by the russian federation in his direction , primarily it concerned let's continue to extend the grain corridor, and you unblock us, the agricultural bank will connect before dawn, give tolyata, odesa, an ammonia pipeline, give us, we will sell our fertilizers and so on. what do you see how erdogan reacted to, which made him turn 180°, how he returns to a completely

different plane. i think that if russia abandons the grain agreement, it will first of all lose the airtagan itself. this position, and i think he can independently agree again with the un and ukraine by signing a certain agreement again. or maybe he didn't sign what for, separate agreements, so he can himself ensure the passage of this grain corridor well, let the russians try to attack a nato country with its ships or ships that will go loaded with grain, a plus for russia , now they will lose control. they will not be able to check what they are going to us with , what they are leaving us with, and so on. that is, it is theirs the problem will not be restored. i think erdogan will do it on his own, and finally, i don't know how many minutes we have left. i wanted to ask: what's in the kremlin , what's in moscow? putin's press secretary about the fact that putin really met with yevgeny the handsome leader of the rebellion well, what did he call him before, as well as

that darkness, five of his publicists, also leaders of the rebels , talked about something in the kremlin for 3 hours, it is not known what. and there are some russian pseudo so-called oppositionists you have the same thugs as girkin says, and he also did not meet with the materials and families of the dead pilots who were shot down by these rioters. of information, the leak of the infaltsev was correct when meeting with the consonants of these leaders, did they strengthen or weaken, please? well, after the prigozhina mitiz, putin's position in the world has shaken quite a lot, very much, we see it from the position of china, we see it from the position of turkey, we see from the statements the opposition of the countries of the global south. i think that today everyone sees that putin cannot adequately manage his country in the security and defense sector, and so on

. finances probably talked about what happened in africa and the middle east, no more, no less, one terrorist talked to another terrorist , we are not interested in principle, we are interested in the position of the global world, and the global world has really seen putin's weakness and we see it, i say from the position even the same china began to behave as a chinese after blinkin , the united states treasury secretary went to china , certain rather serious movements were made in terms of warming relations between the chinese, the west , the european union, and the united states. i think this process will continue and china will simply use russia as its vassal in the plan of obtaining cheap energy carriers in the forest in the metal field and so on . well, and the assimilation of the territory of the far east and the southern cheese from myself, i will say that if you take historical parallels, you know then russia is such a colossus on clay feet and no one thought, for example, at the beginning of the 17th year that in october of the 17th year there would be one revolution in april. didn't think

that the soviet union was actually developing already in december, it will be dissolved by three presidents of the białowieża forests. well, this is all history . i think that history has a spiral, a spiral shape, and it repeats itself . well, we are waiting for the schedule of the empire, the aggressor country. please accept the word, colleagues. thank you, we accept it. ihor checherinda was with us from kyiv. at the end of today's part of the marathon, andrii seychuk and lesia okuliuk finally waited to say that we are with you today well done, but we can do even better, we think that during the day you will add more money to our account, we collect for our soldiers at night e-e birds on e quadcopter that they can see at night for today, you and i , for this morning we collected uah 16,565, but no we are stopping, we are going further because we need to collect a million uah 300,000

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